Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction #3
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'
Subject: 4AD bands.
Subject: Re: doing it for the kids
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'
Subject: Alanis chokes to death in freak harmonica accident
Subject: Re: Our Little Alanis
Subject: Analis Lives!
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Stereolab on compilation
Subject: Re: Difference Engine
Subject: Re: marc jones mail
Subject: Re: Tanya
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: alanis/schmanis
Subject: HNIA/Time Stereo
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo
Subject: Re: RAINBIRDS
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:29:58 -0600
>
>>VAUGHN OLIVER: "Exhibition/Exposition 1Feb/11march'90" book min. bid $20.00
>
>I'll bid $20.
I'll give $25 for it.
-jason
**show a smile if you're lonely, but don't break you're heart.**
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:30:51 +0100
>"Casino Classics" - released this week. Two CD set, the first one
> being the same as TYTD-TM, the second one is all new (apart from the
> 15-minute Underworld "Cool Kids of Death"), and has four new songs on
> it (remixed, of course).
I've been looking for this remix for a long time (being a huge Underworld
fan) - is it any good? Also, what are the other remixes like on this double
CD? Worth the proce of an import?
Cheers,
Geoff
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:49:20 -0700
Could anyone give email me information about this 4AD band
"Air Miami" I borrowed my friends 12track promo CD from
them. They don't sound that bad, although I recognize some
Lush tunes in the background :)
Anyways, I'm interested in them, and I thought I'd find the
most info here.
Get me at [email protected] THANKS!
Richard W
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:15:42 -0700
> Doing it for the kids
>
> surtr ([email protected])
> Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:43:07 +1100
>
> I was in an LP buying mood yesterday and found a compilation called
> 'Doing it for the kids', it has tracks by Heidi Berry, My Bloody
> Valentine, Felt, Primal Scream,....
>
> Does anyone know the story behind it, homeless kids maybe?
> It was done by Creation Records, England, 1988.
>
> ~danny~
not homeless kids, just pop kids. it was a full length compilation lp
(admitedly full of previously released stuff) for the price of a seven
inch single - my cassette copy still has the 1 pound 75 sticker still on
it.
mind you, this was the same label that first released singles that were
available on 12" only...
andy
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:31:26 +1100
>>ALANIS MORISSETTE IS TOP-SELLING FEMALE SINGER - Canada's Alanis
>> Morissette became the all-time top-selling female vocalist in the
>> United States when her debut album was certified at 13 million copies
>> sold, a music industry trade group said Wednesday.
>>The shame.....the humiliation.
>I can understand that for a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Pat Benatar
>fan this would come as a humiliating blow, but I think the rest of us
>have level enough heads to be able to discern that, while Alanis can't
>compare with Liz Fraser or Jenny Toomey or even Kathleen Hanna, she's a
>damn sight better than the previous record holders. Let's just hope >that
>the semi-mythical upcoming Sundays album sells 14 million copies, okay?
Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
would love her.
I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:36:08 +0100
"Geoffrey Elgey" at Oct 11, 96 03:30:51 pm
Geoffrey Elgey Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:48:11 -0400
> Here's a burning question that's been smoldering in my mind: What
>accent does she sing in? It's definitely not Canadian. It sure does bug the
>piss out of me.
It's the "I'm pissed off and whiny and 'artistic' now so I gotta sing like
every word hurts me in some way, even words like 'and' " accent. Mind you,
if you looked like a horse, you'd be pissed off too.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:41:17 -0400
On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Jess Mangold wrote:
> just can't wait until Alanis and her American counterpart,
> Tiffany, do a joint project. It'll be the music event of the season.
> Here's a burning question that's been smoldering in my mind:
joint....burning....smoldering.... the frame of mind
that allowed j. mangold to compose this post?
that's why they call it "dope"
;)
oh, the accent alanis sing in shit-ese
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:57:59 -0700
list with a joke subject header about someone dying?
(The end of it was cut off in my mail queue and I thought it was serious.
You bastard!)
einexile, child of purity and light
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:51:57 -0700
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, surtr wrote:
> Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
> lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her.
If she had started on 4AD and not sold so many CDs, it probably would
have had something to do with her music being a hell of a lot better than
it actually is. (Not that 4AD is a good record label anymore.)
> I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
You mean like by assuming the personal taste and artistic judgements of
400 people are colored by gross and unfair bias and hatred of the
successful?
I can assure you that only about 325 of us hate those who are successful!
Charles Uzzell-Edwards is a cking genius,
e
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:39 -0400
Anybody know the details about the stereolab song thats slated to appear
on the upcoming "Red Hot + Rio" disc?
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:00:20 EDT
> I'm really having trouble finding information on Difference Engine, the
> New York or New Jersey band. I have their album and 2 7" singles.
> There's at least one more 7" but that's all I know about them besides
> what's written on the releases themselves. Could anyone who knows more
> than I please send me a quick email? thanks
>
> aaron
> [email protected]
>
could whoever knows more about them send it to the list?
i saw them with his name is alive years ago...
ive never even been able to find their stuff..
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:59:28 PST
yeah, i get this everytime in duplicate no less....its a pain, but such
are the kinks of life...
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:19:29 -0700 shar everett
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:55:20 -0400
correct
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:30:29 EDT
>
> Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
> lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her. ^^^^^^^^
> I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
> OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...
>
smack!
please do not make generalizations like above. if i don't like a band,
it has nothing to do with their popularity. i believe the same could
be said for most of the people on this list. in fact, i gave up on radio
and mtv years ago because i did't want them to tire me of bands i like...
not because they may be becoming popular, but because i don't want to hear
"feed the tree" twenty times a day. i really have no clue of what is popular
these days. i work in a record store, and people kept coming in looking
for some "macarena" song. after turning about ten people away in one weekend,
i finally opened billboard to see that it was the number one song in the states.
i tuned in to the radio, and within ten minutes heard the song... i wish i
hadn't. i'm still a cure fan, love sebadoh, belly, pavement, ...
if your still reading: thrill jockey just released an album from bundy
brown, the drummer from codiene(i forget his name... doug sharrin? also
the person responsible for Him), and someone else i forget. i think its
titled _directions in music_. i'm no help at all... just thought some of
you would be interested.
jessamine and labradford tomorrow night in a club the size of my cubicle...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeee! i wonder who the "headliner" is?
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:12:57 -0500
quote************
Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
would love her.
I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded.
*************
I must say that while *some* people hold this view, I think the vast
majority of listies do not. what then of EBTG, or mojave 3, or
RHP, whose latest album is 3rd on the college charts (aprox.)??
I have not forsaken these bands because of their commercial success
and I think that most of those here have not either. I am fairly
certain that the main complaint is that her music is just mediocre
and we collectively resent the praise and adulation of mediocrity.
At least she shouldn't give the impression that she is the lone
songwriter and that she gets all of the credit. That too is
inexcusable. Simply crediting someone on your album is not enough when
they did the bulk of the musical work....
The simple fact is that the music is just bad. screw mediocre!
Anyway, these are my complaints. only mine. hi-ho.
lisaroo svetlana of the south
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:54:29 CST6DST
I would like to know which of the cassettes on time stereo are worth
buying , and where can I get the HNIA videos.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:49:04 -0500
uh...
i have to comment on the alanis thing.. well, i don't like her because hsr
voice is stupid unlike the beautiful voices on the 4ad label. i seriously
doubt that Ivo would actually sign somthing as horrid as all-anus on his record
label. I mean, even Scheer is better than alanis. her lyrics are okay... a
bit teeny-bopper but alright nonetheless. But the music and the voice is just
too much....
the bottom line is that she sucks. not only that, but she looks like a horse
too ;)
-me.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:48:49 -0500
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ALANIS MORISSETTE IS TOP-SELLING FEMALE SINGER - Canada's Alanis
Morissette became the all-time top-selling female vocalist in the
United States when her debut album was certified at 13 million copies
sold, a music industry trade group said Wednesday.
The shame.....the humiliation.
I can understand that for a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Pat Benatar
fan this would come as a humiliating blow, but I think the rest of us
have level enough heads to be able to discern that, while Alanis can't
compare with Liz Fraser or Jenny Toomey or even Kathleen Hanna, she's a
damn sight better than the previous record holders. Let's just hope >that
the semi-mythical upcoming Sundays album sells 14 million copies, okay?
>
>Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
>lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
>anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
>If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
>would love her.
> I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
>OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...
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have to agree. i have a friend who said to me about the new (brilliant) jawbox
album (which i am sure most of you would not listen to), "even though it is on
a major record label, it's one of my picks for album of the year." this kind
of statement frightens me. pretty soon, everyone will listen to "underground"
music just because they get ripped on by all their friends for listening to
mainstream bands, and then the whole music world will flip and everyone will
rush to listen to the bands that used to be mainstream again, in order to be
trendy. i hate alanis as much as the next guy, but my chagrin over her success
is due to lack of talent. if she was any good (and didn't whine so much), i am
sure i would like her...regardless of success (of course she probably wouldn't
be successful if she was talented). all i am saying is that people seem to be
listening to music for the wrong reasons these days, and it sickens me. the
amount of cash in the pocket of an artist should have no effect on people's
opinions of that artist.
kevin sheridan
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:57:45 -0400
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, surtr wrote:
> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her.
> I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
> OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...
Well, not necessarily. I work in a record store and heard her album way
before it got popular or played on the radio. I detested that album. We
wouldn't play it in the store because she shrieked all the way thru it.
I'd, however, like to add that while I still hate that album, Alanis gives
me hope because I don't sing any better than she does and I always thought
I wouldn't be able to get a record deal with my voice:)
Besides, while 4AD is the best record label I know of (Castle von Buhler
and Cleopatra 2nd and 3rd respectively), I don't love EVERYTHING they
release...just most of it:)
Jill
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:05:12 -0500
>I would like to know which of the cassettes on time stereo are worth
>buying , and where can I get the HNIA videos.
I have purchased 8 Time Stereo cassettes. I have ranked them here, in
order of their brilliance:
1. ESP Summer- so good, I bought it on CD! features Ian Masters from Pale
Saints
2. ESP Family- Coal miner and communist folk songs. Warren mixes the
songs so that every other one sounds like it was recorded on those tin
cylinders that the earliest recordings were made on.
3. New Grape- Features Dara. Very noisy, but the two new grape theme songs
(based on old radio jingles i think) make it all worth it.
4. HNIA live in MExico- Live His Name Is Alive tracks, with bits of
MExican radio overdubbed on top of it.
Great for a laugh. Good chuckle quotient.
5. Little Princess- Beat Bandit. A small digital watch that plays music is
the basis for this 23 minute piece of music. Nice background stuff
6. Pail Saint- just keyboard sounds that Ian and warren used when making
ESP summer. More background stuff.
7. ESP Beetles- live jams. This is atonal, jarring, noisy, and I can't
listen to it for more than a few minutes.
8. Noise Camp- Utter crap. this is a perfect example of "the emporer's
new clothes". This isn't good or even interesting, and anyone that says it
is is just trying hard to be hip or avant garde. This is played in POW
camps and used to make prisoners confess to their most heinous crimes.
Within seconds, everyone spills the beans. Works everytime!! Oh, what is
it???? It is tapes of kids playing at summer camp, mixed with noise
noodlings.
John
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:37:59 -0700
does anyone have any info on this band??
shar
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:24:59 -0400
Joseph Burns wrote:
>
> Anybody know the details about the stereolab song thats slated to appear
> on the upcoming "Red Hot + Rio" disc?
Yeah, I just discovered it at the radio station where I DJ and
engineer. The track is a double song, I suppose. It's titled One Note
Samba/Surfboard. The 'lab are paired With a guy called Herbie Mann, who
I assume must be a Latin-style flutist, as this instrument is very
prominent in the mix. Yep, there it is: "Herbie Mann: C flute." Latin
flutes and Moogs never sounded so good together! There is a segway abt.
2/3 of the way through the track to what must be the second song. The
second song features a vibraphone or perhaps a marimba. I've only
listened to it a couplea times. It's a cool track. 'Course, Stereolab
can do no wrong in my book ;-)
The rest of the CD is kinda spotty. Other good tracks include people
such as EBTG, Money Mark, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Mad Professor, and David
Byrne. I am not sure when it's released publicly, but the Stereolab
track is cool enough to warrant a purchase on its merits alone.
However, that doesn't mean that the rest of it sucks. It's just the
most outstanding track on the comp (IMHO). Don't take my word for it.
Have a listen if you have the opportunity.
TTFN,
Chris M.