Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:29:47 -0500
At 03:18 PM 3/09/96 PST, you wrote:
>did you get a tape?
Sorry, I couldn=B4t tape it. There were security guys searching for any
suspicious gadgets (including tape recorders...). I=B4m very pissed i didn=
record it since the first encore featured the BEST DCD ever played; I don=B4=
know it=B4s name but Brant may have a clue (it was the song of the
If anyone knows the name, please let me (and many others) know.
who=B4s enjoying the Orb=B4s U.FOrb... any recommendations?
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:31:35 -0500
La idea de Wilder es buena... podrias mandar la entrevista? En que periodico
>> Here is a traduction of ...
> Ahora que el espan;ol ha sido usado en esta lista, podrias -
>si no es mucha molestia, claro- publicar esa parte tal como vino en
>aquel periodico, es decir en espan;ol.
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:47:19 -0400
"Most of the article is pretty uninteresting, except for the last
paragraph which gave me a laugh:"
i usually find what people write about his name is alive to be pretty dull.
on the other hand i usually find what his name is alive have to say very
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:43:05 +0200
At 13:06 03/09/96 PST, you wrote:
>did you keep a taped copy?
[of dcd boots]
no, after all it wasn't worth it.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:42:50 +0200
At 20:59 03/09/96 -0600, you wrote:
> > " Traduce means to slander, defame or malign. It is rarely used
"Tradurre =E8 tradire", to translate mean to betray... :-) it's the motto of=
language school where a friend of mine was teaching.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:09:35 -0700
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Michael Borum wrote:
> Oookay, according to the Curve web site, the new single, "Pink Girl With the
> Blues" (plus 2 b-sides) was to have been released on CD and vinyl on Fatlip
> Records as of September 2.
Uh oh. I have a bad feeling about something.
No more Scylla + no more Anxious = no more Alan Moulder? :(
> Has anyone yet gotten this and if so, where? I'm going to take it for
> granted that it's good...
Maybe not if it has a crap engineer...argh.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 05:40:55 -0500
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:29:24 PST
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:43:05 +0200 lbo
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:28:51 PST
gracias viejo, tienes otras grabaciones en vivo quizas? en terminos del
ORB, compra todo lo que puedas. es excepcional!
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:29:47 -0500 Lebron
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:25:25 PST
pls include details on how/where to get this!
On Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:57:35 -0700 Jeff Keibel
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:10:23 -0400
Did anyone attend the RHP show at the Lansdowne Playhouse last night? I
completely forgot... How was it?
(The same loozer who missed HNIA when they came through town...)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:33:21 -0400
3 cellos and drums. they [used to] cover Queen's "I'm in Love with My Car."
now that was something.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:06:33 -0400
Oh but NO...quite the contrary. Apparently, Toni and Alan are now married
-- at least the press release implies that. Alan engineered/produced all
three tracks on the single along with Toni and Dean. All is not lost...
The URL for the Curve site is: http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~conrad/curve/
There's a stateside mirror somewhere, but I don't know it.
Here's the entire PR text:
>CURVE, the band who had five Top 40 hit singles and two Top 20 albums
between 1991 and 1994, will be releasing a brand new single in September.
Entitled "Pink Girl With The Blues", the new single will be released on CD
and seven inch only on September 2nd on Fatlip Records distributed by Vital.
Other new recordings to appear on the single are "Recovery" and "Black
>At the end of 1993, and after the release of Curve's second LP, "Cuckoo",
Toni and Dean decided to take a sabbatical away from the intensity of the
music business. Dean produced music for a couple of films which were
noticeably Curve-esque when they were shown on TV, gradually finding himself
amongst the mores of techno, ambient and jungle thats when he wasn't
producing hardcore white noise. Toni sang on the Leftfield hit "Original",
got married and rehearsed a band ready for what she wanted - a "toilet tour"
by all accounts. The couple's desire to work together again has been
motivated by the desire to resume "unfinished business" and there are plans
for a third allbum and full UK tour in 1997.
>"Pink Girl With The Blue" , "Recovery" and "Black Delilah" are the first
fruits of a reunion that a lot of people have been waiting for for some time
now. "Pink Girl With The Blue" is classic Curve with a twist (and, hey, good
enough to drink), trademark swirly backbeat coupled with a celebratory
high-octane-fuelled wall-of-noise verse and chorus that'll knock you for
six. All three tracks have been produced by Dean and Toni and mixed by Alan
Moulder in Toni's basement (a la "Blindfold" and all the best Curve stuff) -
which is currently the place all three are holed up producing a new Curve LP
due for release in 1997.
>CURVE were one of the first "indie" bands to work within the dance sector,
employing remixes by artists as diverse as The Aphex Twin, The Future Sound
Of London and the Drum CLub - as well as Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails -
in the early '90s.
>CURVE release "Pink Girl With The Blues" on Fatlip Records on September 2nd.
At 03:09 AM 9/4/96 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Michael Borum wrote:
>> Oookay, according to the Curve web site, the new single, "Pink Girl With the
>> Blues" (plus 2 b-sides) was to have been released on CD and vinyl on Fatlip
>> Records as of September 2.
>Uh oh. I have a bad feeling about something.
>No more Scylla + no more Anxious = no more Alan Moulder? :(
>> Has anyone yet gotten this and if so, where? I'm going to take it for
>> granted that it's good...
>Maybe not if it has a crap engineer...argh.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:50:41 -0400
Sorry to inform you that DCD does not sell much merchandise. The only thing
they sold is a tour program. There are always bottleg t-shirts outside, but
those shirts are shit and the band does not see any money from that (which
is lame, because it is like stealing from Brendand and Lisa).
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:07:29 +0000
At 15:30 9/3/96 +0000, you wrote:
>...okay, here goes. first some background. what is raputina? three
>girls, three cellos, some drums. yes, that's the skinny, alright.
>thislisty relevance? well, our favorite 4ad mia, kurt ralske (aka uvs),
>produced their 7" 'transylvanian concubine'.
>NOW, they've got a new record out on columbia entitled, 'thanks for the
>ether.' and what a record! 18 tracks of popmusik made with
>cellos...there's that sort of insane&desperate sounding atmosphere mixed
>with a bit of humor that one might expect from throwing muses at their
>best. also, i might throw in a quick glee club refrence; they had a cello
>too, you know! there's a song inexplicable entitled 'kate moss'; a cover
>of the '70s hit (according to my lovely girlfriend :) ) 'brand new key'
>which is essentially about rollerskates (although, i've a friend who
>believes their might something more to it...tee hee); a new version of
>'transylvanian concubine'; and pjharveyesque (remember 'man-size sextet'?)
>song about howard hughes.
I highly recommend Rasputina as well. The two spoken word tracks are a hoot
(especially The Donner Party) and the songs that are sung feature a lovely
female vocalist with a mean vibrato. I believe she founded the trio as well
and writes all the songs, which are composed explicitly for cello (which is
quite a treat, since most rock bands with a cellist have a guitar/bass/drums
core, with the cello merely providing a bit of interesting filler.)
By the way, the original version of "Brand New Key" was a big hit by 70's
chart-topper Melanie...and Rasputina's cover adds a nice touch to their
debut effort, "Thanks for the Ether".
By the way, there is a one page article on Rasputina in the issue of A.P.
that had Gerrard/Perry on the cover, Aug/Sept issue, methinks.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:02:19 -0500
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, the mystery parade wrote:
> >who did the original version of I have
> >the moon that Lush did? What a pretty song!
> The Magnetic Fields?
yes, from the charm of the highway strip, the magnetic fields "country"
album. a pathologically addictive album, be forewarned. i still listen
to "2 characters in search of a country song" at least twice a week.
(some of you will know what i mean!).
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:54:50 -0400
> Mercury/Polydor in Canada are planning a pre-Halloween various artists
> compilation that will feature some cool and rare songs that fit the scary
> gothic genre.
Ummmmm. So we can talk about the "gothic-market".
> Titled "Music For Vampires", this compilation will hopefully see release
> in early October. I wasn't able to secure a final track listing but
> highlights will probably include tracks by Love And Rockets, The Birthday
> Party, Cocteau Twins, Bauhaus, Peter Murphy, Nico and Dead Can Dance.
All previously released songs obviously. Aren't they?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:01:38 -0700
1-trey knows about the "address thing". he says that he just reads and
gets rid of the stuff about hnia, so send away, but dont expect a reply.
2-new album played with the addition of: "we hold the land in great
esteem", "how ghosts affect relationships" and "there's something between
us and it's changing our words"
3-for all you detroiters, godzuki member bought zoots. so be aware that
warn will be performing there a LOT.
4-karin says that she is better. she moved back to belleville
MI(trailertown) from chicago.
5-warren bought this HUGE econoliner van before the tour. that is there
6-liquorice is history as far as trey goes. jennie may go on, and dan may
be there too, but it will NOT be on 4ad, since they were dropped.
7-stinkweeed's is the cooooooolllllllest record store in phoenix. i had
never been there before, but it was incredible.(really, all of you people
living west of the mississippi should buy a plane ticket and just come to
phoenix for this record store)
8-did yall know that karin's mom had a chance to be in the rockette's?
she turned them down. by the way, ma oliver was/is a dance teacher.
9- this may be stupid, but karin looks great. better than ever i remember.
10 warn needs a bath.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:27:26 -0700
Several things (8 to be exact):
1. I'm so happy... The new album from THE CARDIGANS came out today
(September 4th) in Canada, thanks to the fine folks at Mercury/Polydor
and in the US from Minty Fresh I think. Titled "First Band On The Moon",
the album hits stores just in time for the last postion of their current
tour. They play in Toronto on Sept. 7th at Lee's Palace. Way cool!!
2. The new ALTERNATIVE PRESS rag features record reviews from SO many 4AD
and related groups I had to wonder if theu we're saving them all up for
this issue. Albums are reviewed from Red House Painters, scheer, Lisa
Germano, Throwing Muses, His Name Is Alive and The Kelley Deal 6000.
Another band reviewed in the same issue is R.O.C. Their debut
self-titled album on Setanta is simply too wonderful to neglect
investigating. Not only does R.O.C. get the album reviewed they even
have a big one-page article too!!
3. The new issue of HUH has a nice article on LISA GERMANO. She talks
about her new garden, her two cats as songwriting partners and how she
selected a final tracklisting for "Excerpts From A Love Circus".
4. Despite having to be at work Saturday morning at 8am, I'll be catching
the probably sold out Toronto THROWING MUSES gig at The Horseshoe Tavern
on Friday night. For those attending, don't expect Kristin and co. to
hit the stage any earlier than 12:30am. This comes directly from a
timetable I caught a glance of while scouting out the club yesterday.
5. Also in Toronto and not worth missing is THE KELLEY DEAL 6000. The
band visits Toronto on Sept. 9th at Lee's Palace. If you haven't checked
out the "Go To The Sugar Altar" album yet, do so - it's a fine listen.
Opening up for the band, at least in Toronto, are Versus, Low and The
Local Rabbits. As Kelley says in her web site, she created Nice Records
as she can't see any benefits from signing to a major OR indie label...
6. The new issue of ROLLING STONE, the one with Conan O'Brian on the
cover with his fine new hair cut, features a little article and pic about
how the disappointing album sales for "King" led to the break up of 4AD
popsters BELLY. The article mentions Tanya's solo album, on 4AD (Reprise
in North America) will surface in the spring of 1997.
7. An inexplicable link to a transcript of my dream about Audrey from
8. Finally, I'm selling my copy of LUSH's "Kaleidoscopic Harmonies". If
anyone here has an interest in adding this to their collection, e-mail me
privately and if the $15 asking price sounds fair to you, then let's do
business. A portion of the above $15 will ACTUALLY BE SENT TO LUSH!
Late addition: "Songs From A Blue Guitar" from RED HOUSE PAINTERS will
actually get a Canadian domestic release from the folks at Island via
PolyGram on Sept. 25th. Hooo-ha!
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:25:51 -0400
I haven't been following this thread, but the title "Sunny Sunday Smile"
caught my attention.
I have a wonderful disc by this name, which is a compilation of a bunch of
a bunch of dreampopish bands I've never heard of. I got the disc via
a pal who ordered it thru IPR.
Question is: does anyone else have this disc, and know of the whereabouts
of any of those groups. I realize this question may better be directed to
Dreampop-L, but I don't have the current address for subscribing there at
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:24:13 -0400
> > >who did the original version of I have
> > >the moon that Lush did? What a pretty song!
> > The Magnetic Fields?
> yes, from the charm of the highway strip, the magnetic fields "country"
i view "the charm of the highway strip" more as muzik to your own road
movie. country twang at times, but oh so more desolate than even hank
williams and patsy cline could do combined. the keyboards have that casio-
thirty dollar-bought-at-radio shack feel and the clarinet is like the
charm. the snake charmer that gets you rollin. stephen merritt's voice is
recorded and sung so deep, sometimes i see barry white looking over his
shoulder. this album is a masterpiece, and a must for long highway
travels. i think all the stephen merritt projects are great but this album
desrves the highest merit (ha, ha, funny, punny).
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:21:05 -0700
WHERE NO BAND HAS GONE BEFORE -- CARDIGANS BECOME FIRST BAND ON THE MOON!
-- In stores Sept. 4th "First Band On The Moon"
-- (Trampolene TRACD1506/PolyGram Canada 314 533 117-2/4)
-- Toronto, Lee's Palace, September 7th almost sold out
-- CKOI in Montreal makes "Lovefool" "smash of the week"
Nina Persson Vocals
Peter Svensson Guitar
Bengt Lagerberg Drums
Magnus Sveningsson Bass
Lasse Johansson Keyboards, Acoustic Guitar
With their third, new album, First Band On the Moon, The Cardigans have
announced their arrival as a pop band with expanded views, audience, and
musical visions. For the first time, the album lands worldwide in the
same week and in the same form. The first single from the album,
"Lovefool" is being enthusiastically received.
First Band On the Moon, as with their two previous albums, was recorded
in the legendary Tambourine Studio in Malmo in the south of Sweden, and
produced by Tore Johansson. As with the last albums, Peter composes the
music and Magnus the bulk of the lyrics. However, with First Band On the
Moon, Nina becomes a major lyrical contributor, writing half of the
lyrics on the album.
The Cardigans were started in 1992 by Peter and Magnus, two souls united
by a love for hard rock music in Jonkoping. Inspired to rock, the band
relocated to the more happening town of Malmo in order to fulfill the
dream. Although the story took a few strange twists and turns, four years
later the band has now toured Japan numerous times, been cover stars of
magazines and appear frequently on MTV and MuchMusic.
Mixing pop and jazz with a distinctive `60s feel, the band has created a
unique style all their own. The band signed with PolyGram-affiliated
Stockholm Records in the spring of 1994, and a specific originality of
The Cardigans' music was the fact that they clearly differed from the
dance and R&B releases that characterised most of the output of Stockholm
The Cardigans' debut album, Emmerdale was released in May 1994, and was
recently released for the first time in Canada. The first single "Rise &
Shine" instantly became a radio favourite and rewarded the band with a
devoted and loyal fan base. Emmerdale was voted best album of 1994 by
the readers of Sweden's leading music magazine Slitz.
While Emmerdale placed the band on the national music map in Sweden,
1995's follow up Life took the band into the charts in Japan, USA
(released through Chicago indie Minty Fresh, it hit #6 on CMJ's college
charts) and the United Kingdom. Each and every single from Life has
reached the UK's Top 40, and Brits rapidly took them to heart. Perhaps,
as Q Magazine observed, "The Cardigans' sweet, jangly-kitsch-jazz-
Trumpton-soul music owes plenty to the British scratch-pop lineage of the
Marine Girls, Young Marble Giants, Grab Grab The Haddock, Weekend and
other bands they claim vehemently never to heave heard in their lives."
Audiences worldwide wanted more Cardigans, too -- "Carnival" went No.1 in
Japan, Iceland and Mexico and was played heavily on MuchMusic in Canada.
Emmerdale has sold 200,000 copies worldwide, while Life has sold an
impressive 1.5 million. The Cardigans show debatable taste (and perhaps
expose their heavy metal past) with their choice of cover songs -- not
what you'd expect, but transliterations of Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osborne
and Thin Lizzy classics. They were all collected for an exclusive
Canadian package last year as the "Under The Covers" EP. First Band On
The Moon keeps the trend going with a reggae-fied rendition of "Iron
The Cardigans' striking sounds and visuals made critics drool. "Cheesy
motel supper club lounge pop -- not by Americans, not by Americana-mad
Brits, but by rational, self-controlled Swedes," wrote the Montreal
Gazette, while the Vancouver Sun commented: "All warm and fuzzy, they
may be goofy but they're oh-so-cozy companions for a cold and wet
Spring came, and then summer. So far, the summer of '96 has included a
brief, sold out US tour and performances at major international music
festivals such as Roskilde in Denmark, Phoenix in the U.K. and T In the
Park in Scotland, amongst others. Following an appearance at this year's
CMJ Music Marathon convention in New York, The Cardigans make their
first-ever Canadian appearance in Toronto at Lee's Palace. A more
extensive tour in North America is being planned for 1997, but first,
there's the moon....
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:06:46 +0200
The European leg of the Throwing Muses tour is apparently supposed
to start on 14 September (Throwing Music web site). Does anyone have
details? The usual web sites have no info (again, as usual--tried the
4AD and Subbacultcha ones).
-- Andras Salamon [email protected]
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:22:37 -0400
How can you NOT listen to ANY Magnetic Fields at least twice a week???
"Holiday" is really good, aslo, as well as "Highway Strip"....it's a little
more poppier, though.....and for fans of female voices, people should check
out the re-release of the Magnetic Fields first 2 records on Merge. It has
their old singer Susan singing, and she sings ALL different styles...it's
really beautiful, and Stephin Merritt is a genius.
At 01:02 PM 9/4/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, the mystery parade wrote:
>> >who did the original version of I have
>> >the moon that Lush did? What a pretty song!
>> The Magnetic Fields?
>yes, from the charm of the highway strip, the magnetic fields "country"
>album. a pathologically addictive album, be forewarned. i still listen
>to "2 characters in search of a country song" at least twice a week.
>(some of you will know what i mean!).
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:16:51 -0200
They played at Olympia (S�o Paulo) and Morro da Urca (Rio de Janeiro)on
The best show that i ever seem.
DCD is wonderfull!!!
Fabio De Martin
Tom Weibrecht wrote:
> did you or anyone else tape this show? ill trade for some nyc shows!
> On Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:22:22 -0600 David Ruiz
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:12:22 +0200
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Andras Salamon wrote:
> The European leg of the Throwing Muses tour is apparently supposed
> to start on 14 September (Throwing Music web site). Does anyone have
> details? The usual web sites have no info (again, as usual--tried the
> 4AD and Subbacultcha ones).
> -- Andras Salamon [email protected]
Here's what I know :
sept. 13th ---> Den Haag,Holland
14th ---> Dublin,Ireland
15th ---> Glasgow(The Arches),UK
16th ---> Manchester (University),UK
29th ---> Gent (Vooruit),Belgium
oct. 6th ---> London (Shepherd's Bush Empire),UK
hope this helps,
.;'' ``;. Guy Vandekerckhove "If I mail
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:: : : :: [email protected] you can send it
:: .:' `:. :: [email protected] back to me"
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:38:42 -0600
While I was looking through the DCD articles and interviews I found a
couple of parts that I found interesting to post to the list>
...now with Spiritchaser, DCD explores into the african and australian
rhythms, in way that goes from the tribal and to the frontiers of salsa
(listen with attention to the end of Song of The Dispossed, where we can
find , that the voice of Celia Cruz or Ruben Blades could have been
in there without a problem)....
And on an interview, Lisa answered to a question about the
meaning of the art of singing as a human way of communicate
...I understood the meaning of that when I lived in Spain. I had many
problems while I was learning spanish because the words penetrated
directly into my musical voice. And I was very worried because of that.
For me, the oral language its no other thing that the practical way to
communicate.And on the other side, when we sing, we are in the main part
of our spirit. This is spiritual, no practical. So I had to stop
talking in spanish. But english is the worst language that exist,
because is very difficult to say the truth in english. The way the
structure of this language is made takes you away from the truth. But I
feel, when i found the center of my voice, my real center, it will be
imposible for me to do it in spanish. We cant make the language a
soup of letters...
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:30:50 +0200
>did you get a tape?
this is not a good style....If you want to get in conact with person, mail
them personaly and not to the whole 4AD-list.
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:09:06 EST
thank you so very much for posting that info on the cardigans. i heard
them once while shopping on the Virgin Megastore (NYC),
but wasn't sure if their
album would be as good as the one song i heard.
i will look for their latest album tomorrow, and if i am not mistaken,
they might be
playing in NYC tomorrow. so who knows, i might just see how they
once again, thanx;
"Connais-tu, comme moi, la douleur savoureuse,
Et de toi fais-tu dire: 'Oh! l'homme singulier!'
- J'allais mourir. C'etait dans mon ame amoureuse,
Desir mele d'horreur, un mal particulier"
Le Reve D'Un Curiex (Charles Baudelaire)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:07:48 -0600
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Jeff Keibel wrote:
> The Cardigans' debut album, Emmerdale was released in May 1994, and was
> recently released for the first time in Canada.
How different/similar is Emmerdale to Life?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:37:16 -0500
I saw a shock me ep at soundwaves here. If someone wants it, I'd be
willing to get it for them.. it was about 8-10 dollars. I posted
this before, but I'm not sure if it bounced back...
"fnord, fnord, fnord..."
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:42:48 -0500
it was unbelieveable. I just saw a Burger King commercial to Modern
English's I melt with you. It was just hideous. at the "melt" part,
they showed huge pictures of melting cheese and of course gave the impression
that if only so&so could, he'd stop the world to relax with a cheeseburger.
He's seen the changes in Burger King's quality and, know what? They're
getting better. Mmmmmm. MMMMMM. Mmmmmmm. Mm-Mm-mm-M. Awful.
The truly sad part is that it sounded like the actual band and not someone
else covering their song. ugh.
"gotta wear an extra layer"
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:16:19 -0500
i have a large list of cds for sale, including many 4ad, ethereal, drony
guitar thingies as well as ambient, idm, choral, experiemental, disco,
you can find the list at:
if you don't have web access, email me directly for a list.