Subject: massive crossposted third eye foundation review
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Subject: Shaving sampler ... HERE!
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Subject: lush on wed. - anyone else going?
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Subject: Reviewed: Salt, Cardigans
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Subject: Corporate Attack... again.
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:25:09 -0600
tef has been discussed on both of these lists in the past few weeks. my
copy arrived in the mail today, and here's my review of it:
third eye foundation - semtex (6 tracks, 48:24)
just in case you didn't know, tef is one of those flying saucer attack
spinoff bands.
the packaging on this album is beautiful, except the cd itself which is an
ugly brown. front cover is a black and white photograph of a cat lying in
the grass (dead?) the photo has been doctored so that the cat almost
blends into the grass. . .the backing on the cd (this is one of those clear
things) has another photo of the cat, from a different angle (you can see
more than just the cat and grass) the back of the cd and back of the
insert (a flat sheet of paper) have the same picture of a beach (b/w again,
very neat-o) now, to the music
1. Sleep (7:03)
i didn't care for this one all that much. it reminds me a lot of the
noisier hellish moments of fsa's self-titled cd. it's got a really fast
(electronic) drumbeat with loud distorted whooshing guitar over it, also
moving fairly quickly. some real drums (i think) join in after awhile, but
the song doesn't really seem to go anywhere or convey any special emotion,
so i'm going to skip this one. oh, there's some high-pitched feedback,
too.
2. Still-Life (11:25)
this song alone is worth the 20 bucks i paid for this cd and far outweighs
the blandness of the first track. the song gets started with this hellish
high-pitched guitar, feedback, and really amazing tribal drumbeats. for
some reason when i listen to this, it makes me think of demons dancing
around a fire in the pits of hell, but in a cool sort of way. an
incomprehensible (i don't think she's actually singing words) joins in,
buried deep beneath the fuzz. the song kind of ebbs and flows, the loud
tribal drums being the most changing part of the song. the fuzz is more or
less constant. somewhere around 4:15, the song starts to wind down and the
high-pitched guitar continues alone along with a little fuzz and something
that sounds like affected maracas/jingling bells. i don't know what this
sound is, but it's cool. then, a minute later, the other instruments join
in again, creating a similar sound to the beginning of the song. then
around 8:15, the high screeching feeback and the female vox sans drums
finish out the song on an almost hypnotic note. (the feedback reminds me
of "still point," my fave fsa song). buy it for this song.
3. Dreams on His Fingers (5:45)
starts out with some drums and electronic hissing noises slow, deliberate
tempo. female vox (words this time), bass guitar underneath the keyboard
(i think it's some kind of keyboard) this one's really beautiful, the
tempo sort of reminds me of fsa's "land beyond the sun" meets something off
of the movietone cd. this song is the kind of things that would play
through my head as i kissed my girlfriend under a street light in a foggy
alley. stark, lonely, but somehow intimate and intense at the same time.
4. Next of Kin (6:07)
drums start off the song, then some kind of synth/whiny feedback ala
"rainstorm blues" joins in, with a half-whispered female voice underneath.
the vox kind of go on a liz frazeresque (sp?) incomprehensible moaning
thing throughout the song (this is a good thing) while the whispering
continues. another winner. at the end of the song, the music does a sort
of hybrid thing between the feedback of
"still point" and the whine of "rainstorm blues" w/ rainstorm blues winning
out and closing the song.
5. Once when I was an Indian (12:29)
starts out w/ drums and the similar slow-paced keyboards of the last song.
a female voice chants/sings rhythmically underneath, which makes me feel
like i've walked in on some sort of private ritual. 3-4 minutes in the
beat changes to something along the lines of spoonfed hybrid's "the sun
always changes my mind."
the songs stops halfway through. what the HELL??!! this weird synth sound
breaks in that sounds exactly like the very beginning of spoonfed hybrid's
"scary verlaine." it doesn't continue like that song, though, just sort of
becomes another piece of the rhythm section. drums join in, and the
chanting resumes, with minimal keyboard plinkings. electronic drums come
in for awhile, and the song ends on a slow ambient note. again, fantastic.
i wish i had the vinyl, b/c i think this song would almost sound like idm
if sped up.
6. Rain (5:23)
some plinking (think electronic raindrops) starts out the song w/some other
half-random synth noodlings (this is a good thing) in the background. the
plinking is joined by some rhythmical plinks, and pulsating high-pitched
feedback (by now you should have figured out that i like the high-pitched
whiny stuff to the loud racous distortion of the lower frequencies.) the
feedback closes the song as it dances aound with the keyboard a bit at the
end.
the cd is the perfect complement to fsa's "further." it's just as lonely
and beautiful, but slightly darker and tribal influnced in spots. it
manages to fuse the best aspects of cocteau twins, fsa, and any sort of
tribal music (i know a few examples, but i can't think of them). kind of
bridges the gap between fsol's "lifeforms" ep and "further." i don't
neccesarily agree with the mbv comparisons. in fact, it sounds nothing
like mbv at all, and falls into that catagory of music that gets called
mbv-esque merely because it uses feedback, distortion, and unusual guitar
sounds. definately a lot less song-oriented than mbv. i'd say a more
ambient "further" is the best soundbyte description i could give.
only 1,000 of these babies pressed (cd and vinyl), so buy it quick.
well, that's my long review of the semester. why is it i always give the
fsa spinoff bands really long reviews (ok, i skipped crescent, but that was
awful)?
BiZ
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:16:43 +0100
from "Joseph Burns" at Apr 15, 96 03:32:11 pm
Joseph Burns Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:34:48 +0200
FUCK YA`LL LUSH-FANS!
The Presidents of the United States of America beats Lush anyday!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:33:05 +0100
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:34:48 +0200 Fredrik Pettersson
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 05:05:36 PDT
>FUCK YA`LL LUSH-FANS!
I don't want to be accused of not having a sense of humour, so I've really tried
to find the humour in this. I think I found the whole concept amusing. The adjec
ives,
the grammar, the use of metaphor etcetera. This really is a well written piece o
work.
Keep it up.
>The Presidents of the United States of America beats Lush anyday!
At what? Tennis? I havn't heard too much of the POTUSOA, so I won't comment on
their musical merits, suffice to say that Peaches in cans for you and me etc ad
ib
to fade, must have taken 20 seconds to write (by a 5 year old).
Bye
Chris
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 05:41:14 PDT
Is this thingy only given away at shows? Obviously we will all want one.
Anybody know how us unfortunates who cannot get to the shows could
get their grubby mits on this article? Because three months down the
line, some entrepenuer will be asking $50 for it. All information directed
privately please to meself:
[email protected]
(Yes I know the address is a pain.......)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:06:24 -0700
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Fredrik Pettersson wrote:
> FUCK YA`LL LUSH-FANS!
I believe the correct spelling is Y'ALL, and you don't need a dash
between Lush and Fans, farm boy.
Otherwise, your eloquence is astounding. Now run and get your 'W.T.
Guide to How Normal People Speak' and look that up.
=')
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:19:53 -0500
Hello
Visit Vinyl Ink Records
They are located state side ... so all foreign orders are subjected to
additional shipping charges.
I forget what it's called exactly ... but the first word of the title is
"Shaving" (naturally)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:56:17 -0400
well, i got to see Lushscheermojave 3 at the Fillmore last night, and on the
whole i very much enjoyed it.
i thought Scheer were the most impressive act of the evening. they put on a
very tight and energetic live show, and really started things off well. i
hope they manage to overcome the out-of-place-on-4ad label they've been
slapped with, 'cause i think they're really quite talented. i look forward
to hearing more from them in the future.
mojave 3 were something of a disappointment for me. they sacrificed the
beautiful atmospherics of the album for a punchier live sound. this worked
for "mercy", but not for the rest of the material.
lush played an excellent set. miki was in a really good mood, and they
played a nice range of material from their various releases. among the
hilights were great renditions of "de-luxe" and "sweetness and light".
emma played really well, although she looked most of the time like she'd
rather be somewhere else doing anything else.
i was a little surprised at the number of tracks where they had electronic
backing tracks (undertow, light from a dead star, and a couple others). at
one point in the middle one of the songs (i forget which one) there was a
moment when all the band members stopped playing, and had drinks of water, or
whatever, and only the backing track was playing. that was sort of odd. i
guess i was surprised that parts of their live show would rely on stuff they
couldn't play live.
anyway, it was a great evening. i was just sorry not to get one of the free
cassettes. they hadn't put them out when i got there, and the next time i
went to the lobby they were all gone. oh well.
--phil
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:12:56 -0700
12:34:48 +0200
> FUCK YA`LL LUSH-FANS!
> The Presidents of the United States of America beats
> Lush anyday!
Please let's not start a thread on this!
-cz
were admirable despite being ill-fated.
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:23:19 -0700
Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:16:41 -0400
> I wasn't going to clutter the list with yet another
> review, but I guess I've changed my mind. And it's very
> 4AD-content oriented, so what the hey!
What!?!? That's what we need *more* of on this list. Thanks for all the
reviews Gil, -e-, BiZ, hk, etc.
Thanks also, for whoever recommended the Caroline Lavelle CD despite someone
else saying it was "boring." I think there are a couple really good songs on
there and it's not boring it's just subtle and understated. :)
-cz
Brendan Perry.
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:12:29 -0700
> At what? Tennis? I havn't heard too much of the POTUSOA, so I won't comment o
> their musical merits, suffice to say that Peaches in cans for you and me etc a
lib
> to fade, must have taken 20 seconds to write (by a 5 year old).
That must explain why my two & a half year old daughter, elysia, just LOVES
them POTUSOA guys. She first startled us when she started singing the chorus
from Lump, rocking back & forth, headbanging is a Danzig sort of way. Then
it was meowing for that Kitty song. Now it's millions of peaches! She
had no idea they were by the same people, but they spoke to her in that
Raffi sort of way. Maybe waking up with the clock radio set on KROQ is not a
good thing......
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:21:12 -0700
just wanna know who else is gonna be there. it's supposed to
rain, which is sort of a bummer 'cuz i hate driving in that
stuff. i'll probably be there early on in case anyone wants to
say hi and make fun of my ankle tat...
k
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:24:47 +0100
I've lurked for a couple of weeks and have been pleasantly entertained. My
question is: Does anyone know if the Shaving tour still has tickets for
St. Louis, and, if so, what the phone number is for tickets and where the
show is? I have tickets for the Chicago show and am planning to cruise
down Route 66 for a Cardinals game, and hopefully, Lush for the second
night.
On another topic...is anyone interested in a 13 Itch Cd, autographed by
Graeme of the Pale Saints?
Send me your estimates privately (for God's sake, not another auction), and
I'll let you know.
Jay Datema
[email protected]
"From a certain point onward
there is no longer any turning back.
That is the point that must be reached."-Kafka
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:11:20 U
RE>lush on wed. - anyone else going? 4/16/96
I am unfortunately unable to be there because of the damn selling out crap
that all shows that are interesting seem to be having these days. (in lamer
words, i didn't get tickets).
but i am trying my best to get tickets for the next show later this month.
I will be at the Sereolab show though later on this month as well. I know k is
gonna be there anyone else?
-nb-
heehee)
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Date: 4/16/96 1:57 PM
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:43:12 -0700
[I was going to write longer, better-crafted reviews but realized that if
I waited 'til I had time for that I'd never do it. So accept this quickly
cobbled-together stuff.]
SALT "Auscultate" (Island)
This is the best loud-and-noisy rock album I've heard in quite a while,
and surprisingly it comes from a country I associate more with Abba,
Golden Earring and Ace Of Base. Nina Ramsby's got a very interesting
voice that ranges from calm in the face of adversity ("Honor Me") to
maniacal ("Obsession") to out of control shrieking (the end of "Witty").
Some of the wailed refrains on e.g. "Bluster" remind me of good-old
Siouxsie.
The very obvious comparison is to PJ Harvey back when they were good,
particularly songs like "Stella Marie" or "Snake"; but this is not to
condemn Salt as imitators. Nina's guitar playing is less bluesy but
louder and grungier than Polly's, and some of the rhythms are closer to
Throwing Muses territory. Lyrically, Nina's not the Demon Lover that
Polly likes to come off as, although she's clearly not happy with some of
the men in and out of her life. Musically, the songs are extremely
strong, many with piledriver riffs and sudden changes in tempo that
effortlessly avoid grunge cliches (the fact that several of them are in a
very fast 6/8 helps!)
This is one damn fiercely rocking record, harsh and angry without
succumbing to chaos. I'm one of those who felt Polly Harvey went way
downhill after "Rid Of Me", and who still gets a blast out of Hole's
"Pretty On the Inside", and Salt gives me the same rush as those two
albums, the same urge to keep turning the volume up another notch on
every song. With all the P J Harvey fans around here (or have they all
decamped?) I'm surprised Salt haven't been mentioned here yet; perhaps
they've fallen into the dreaded Grunge pigeonhole. Ignore the hype and
buy this CD.
THE CARDIGANS "Life" (Minty Fresh)
Another Swedish band! My wife discovered them on the radio and loves
them. Tweepop isn't normally my thing but the Cardigans do a good
balancing act of being cute but not _too_ cute. It helps that they have a
strange sense of humor, as indicated by their covering a Black Sabbath
song. That and their original songs are all performed in a mock-60s-pop
style; think of all the ephemera from the early to mid-60s that didn't
have lots of fuzztone guitar or sneering boy singers, from Phil Spector's
girl-groups to the Left Banke and the Turtles. The Cardigans expertly
mine that rich motherlode and toss in some lounge stylings as well, and
all this with breathy girl vocals like Harriet Wheeler's little sister.
Occasionally the results start to veer toward trip-hop, but I don't
detect any obvious sampling, loops or beat-boxes. Just happy bouncy pop
music to jump around the room to. Wheee!
__________ __________________
Jens Alfke [email protected]
to wound the autumnal city. So howled out to the world to give him a name.
_________________________
http://www.inow.com/~jens
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:11:21 -0400
>It's kinda droney psychedelic stuff with organ and fuzztone guitar,
>veering sometimes into Can-like weirdness;
The new stuff supposedly consists *entirely* of Can-like weirdness (yay).
The second half of the first album pretty much points in the direction of
the next album, says Rex Jessamine.
> pleasant, but it doesn't turn
>me on the way Bowery Electric does.
Huh. The exact opposite applies to me - I mean, BE sounds nice, but
ultimately feels empty at the centre.
>The chick on the cover is quite
>babe-alicious though in a Louise Brooks kind of way, he said in a
>heartfelt yet not sexist tone of voice.
Whatever you say, dad. Anyone know who Lya de Putti really is?
>>...although I think Emma is different from Sandra Bullock in that she
>>doesn't lie about her age (SB turned 30 only last year? Don't think
>so!).
>
>Na-uh I thought Emma was 29
I meant that Sandra Bullock lies about her age (she's 32 or 33, not 30 as
you read everywhere). I have no idea how old Emma is or claims to be.
Larry
originally this setup to serve society; now the roles have been reversed
that want society to serve the institutions; originally, serve society,
serve society, roles have been reversed, insitutions, alienation
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:08:04 -0700
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Fredrik Pettersson wrote:
> FUCK YA`LL LUSH-FANS!
> The Presidents of the United States of America beats Lush anyday!
HEY YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN HERE AND SAY STUFF LIKE THAT ! JUST WHO THE
HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YA SACK OF SHIT, I SHOULD KICK YOUR ASS !
PRESIDENTS EAT THE ONE MY DOG SAT ON AND DONT YOU FORGET IT ASSMUNCH.
The rest of you, lighten up some, eh? :)
Belly are still crap,
e
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:45:15 -0700
retained.
retained.
I am looking to trade the listed items below for theThe items. Please
send correspondance to me, not the lists--I have the goods not them =:O
theThe Cold Spell Ahead, 2 song picture disc, out of print although
I've seen discs around
theThe Infected 12" extended, skull crusher and energy remixes. out
of print.
theThe The Beat(en) Generation. Campfire and Palmer remixes, Angel.
out of print I think but I've seen quite a few of these around
The Anti-Group Big Sex, this group formed Clock DVA. great tune, out
of print. includes extended mix & "The Ocean"
Insides / Glee Club 7" promo only, 1993.
Insides tune is "Walking in Straight Lines"
Glee Club is "Bad Child's Dolly"
Email Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:19:26 -0700
Jessamine Rocks! I heard about them first a while ago when they relased
a slef titled 7", "Ordinary Sleep". Their second Single "Cellophane", is
great too. Both are on the s/t album, but are different versions. The
7" (now out of print I believe) versions have unreleased b-sides. They
also have a sub-pop 7", the kranky album, the emily's 777 song (their
best song yet: "Reflections"), and a song on the "Follow the Bouncing
Ball" Ba Da Bing! Records compilation. Rex wrote me once when I ordered
the two 7"'s from him (fortunate for me, I got the last copy of "Ordinary
Sleep" and one of the last 10 copies of "Cellophane") and he was very
very nice. Great band; bassy, feedbacky, breathy, loud, beautiful. I
hope that explains something. Also, are these StP tour tapes given out
at the shows definetely? I hope so. 4AD is good like that, I remember
them giving away free Air Miami 7"'s at the Throwing Muses/Air Miami
show....
Matt
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:44:16 -0400
hi all,
for anyone who's interested, i just finished my early version of a red
house painters site. if you like 'em, stop by and let me know what you
think. and if you have anything to add please email me privately.
thanks!
byefornow,
K-
THE SITE: http://www.dhp.com/~ash/rhp/rhpindex.html
MY E-MAIL: [email protected]