Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:08:40 -0500
as rich posted to the list a couple of days ago, stp will be
at st andrews in detroit on may 5th. in fact, he all of the dates for the
On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Scorpio M. wrote:
> allo there...I was wondering if you had heard if they were heading out
> towards the Detroit way as well and when?........Let me know when you
> Thanks ---joy
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:48:58 -0800
I hate to bother you all but who or what do unrest sound like?
I still haven't recieved my Pale Saints or my Spoonfed Hybred from
CdNow. Is it just me, or is it that they (Wherehouse/Tower/chain
stores) don't sell good music in stores anymore? I guess if everybody
knew about these bands we wouldn't appreciate them as much. Anybody
else here selfish about "their" music?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:50:56 -0600
Has anyone heard any of the albums by Rise and Fall of a Decade? They're on
the Hyperium label and they have a great track on the first Heavenly Voices
CD. Are the albums as good? Do all the tracks sound the same and become
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:02:00 -0800
Damn! Not only is Lush or the Pavement tour not coming to San Diego but
the L.A. shows have been sold out! Anyone in the Southern California
area want to start a band? I play guitar and have a cool Fx Processer!
Well, I think I'm going to jump in front of the bus now.....
Hey to all those with a few xtra bucks there is a band called
Swirlies and they put out an EP/LP/SP whatever (8 songs) but there is
this song called House of Pancake which is really cool and if you have
a few extra bucks laying around pick it up.
Anyone have any suggestions of bands that we have never heard of
that sound like lush too?
Sorry Sam if this isn't too Lush related but, Hey! I'm sure there
are lots of bands that have we've never heard of that are really cool
and just as good as lush is (was).
Oh, Patrica did you get you buy the new album yet? Do you have the
split tabs yet? No Lush, No Pat's tabs *sigh*
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:16:28 -0600
The DD wouldnt know cuz they are playing at the empty bottle on western the
28th! i just called them.
At 10:17 PM 3/25/96 -0500, you wrote:
>i just got off the phone with the double door in chicago about the
>cindytalk date which was initially on this wednesday but then someone
>said it was on this thursday; at any route, the guy i talked to there
>said that they were not even on the bill to play on either night?!
>can some kind folk in the chicago area give i and others the skinny
>on this horrible act of nayity? viele dank
>and on a more ob4ad-l tip: lisa germano appears on the debut El Nino cd!
>El Nino is a noisy pop outfit here in good ole bloomington, indiana;
>which is, of course, lisa's hometown. quite a decent cd! hints of noise a=
>laner/thurston/defever only more poppy than any of the above. non sugar
>coated for all you diabetics who hated medicine!
"You are the sweetness in my eyes You are an apple in disguise
You are the sweetness i need for life You are the sweetness in my eyes"
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:54:08 -0600
On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Neshtikin Byram wrote:
> Has anyone heard any of the albums by Rise and Fall of a Decade? They're on
> the Hyperium label and they have a great track on the first Heavenly Voices
> CD. Are the albums as good? Do all the tracks sound the same and become
I've got them both. Noisy But Empty starts with two excellent tracks,
then the songs are of varying quality throughout the rest of the disc. On
this album the band is still trying to find its style, but they're
heading in a good direction generally. You or Sydney is a distinct
improvement, much more consistent musically, with stronger vocals and
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:12:00 +0100
>This past weekend, I came across a copy of this Unrest album (teenbeat 14).
> It appears to be made in Belgium and had a Xeroxed insert. The cover was=
>picture of them playing live. Before I plop down my $30, I'd kinda like to
>know what I'm getting. Does anyone know if it's an imported reissue or the
>this is not a reissue - it was, as far as i seem to remember, released
>the same time it was released in the states. it's essentially Unrest's
>first album, and yes, it pretty much is Fuck Pussy Galore.....
>not sure who's responsible for releasing it over there,
>Just received tonight fuck pussy galore lp on Matador. It happens to be a
>compilation / reedition of it?
>It reads: State Champs 1.p (TeenBeat 14) 1000 pressed, and 2000 pressed in
>Belgium. So, it seems to be the same material inside.
The Belgian issue of 'Tink Of S.E.' (TB 14) on Hageland, was issued early
1989, so that's about a year and a half after it originally came out on
TeenBeat. It is a re-issue, and an import, but 100% genuine.=20
The 1993 'Fuck Pussy Galore' LP (TB 67) is a re-master of this first Unrest
LP. Some songs (for instance 'The Hill Part 2' ) were originally mastered at
the wrong speed.
You'd better buy the CD version of 'Fuck Pussy Galore' by the way, since it
includes all 3 songs from Unrest's first 7" (TB 7), 2 songs from the 'Lisa
Carol Freemont' cassette (TB 6) -although not 'Usually On Fridays A
Hamburger', unfortunately-, 1 song from the 'Catchpellet' 7" (TB 28), 3
songs from the 'Sammy Supreme My Man' 7"EP (TB 37), and an unreleased cut.
>Does it sound more akin to those Caroline releases (Malcolm
>X Park & Kustom Karnal=85.) more punky / even less poppy?=20
It's definitely more punky than MXP and KKB, and there is some really great
Section 25/Crispy Ambulance influenced atmospheric stuff on it, you won't
find on their later LP's. Oh, and not to forget a wonderful cover of King
Crimson's '21st Century Schizoid Man'!
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:37:50 EST
Just to shed some light on the MARRS CD situation:
It was originally issued by 4AD on CD in 1987 (BAD 707CD); this did not come in
a jewel case but in a paper/card gate-fold sleeve with a design similar to the
12" containing the remixes (BAD 707R). It included the four tracks of the two
different UK 12"s.
At about the same the Canadians issued a CD using the same packaging
(4.A.D/VERTIGO, 870 210-2) with six tracks (five mixes of Pump, one of Anitina).
The Japanese put out two versions: 4.A.D/COLUMBIA, 20CY-2280 with 4 tracks and
4.A.D/COLUMBIA, 15CY-5012 with two tracks. The former had a sleeve design
similar to the UK CD issue, the latter resembled the design of the regular UK
12". Both came in slim jewel cases and featured all the stuff that usually
comes with Japanese releases. Finally, there is the US version on 4th &
BROADWAY, CCD 452; this included five tracks (four versions of Pump and one of
Anitina) and came in a card sleeve using the design of the regular 12".
All these should long be deleted.
In 1993 4AD reissued the CD. This time it came in a digipak and included only
three tracks (two versions of Pump, one of Anitina). This one should still be
available. In identical form this was released in Germany (4.A.D/ROUGH TRADE,
RTD 120.1860.3) and probably Belgium (Play It Again Sam, ???????). France put
out two versions: 4.A.D/VIRGIN, 922492 with two tracks in a card picture sleeve
and 4.A.D/VIRGIN, 922312 with four tracks in a digipak (identical to the UK
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:32:39 +0000
The miracle of the internet - yesterday I got a mail message from an
American about an on-line music shop's catalogue, featuring a
description of a Scottish band's EP. There it was in the racks of my
local (real world non-digital) shop at lunchtime, and it is every bit as
good as the tantalising description Jens mailed.
Ganger - Half-Nelson EP
(12" vinyl only, POMP 004, Vesuvius, PO Box 15096, Glasgow G4 9YZ)
Three instrumental tracks, "Guts and Bravoodoo" (6.5 min), "Drummer's
Arms and Bionic Thumbs" (5.5 min), "Jellyneck" (20 min). It's that
currently fashionable krautrock vibe, Ganger have two bass players and
two drummers (though they also play other instruments), plus a
clarinettist/keyboard player. Sometimes it sounds like Bark Psychosis
(early guitar-heavy stuff), or Th' Faith Healers (in their quieter
moments), or the middle section of Stereolab's "Animal or Vegetable",
or Tortoise, or Long Fin Killie. Pounding (but not monotonous)
bass/drum to the fore, with the guitars and keyboards making
supplementary noises in the background. I'd guess that we are going to
see plenty of bands trying to make this sort of noise over the next
year or so, but Ganger manage to sound like more than just a bunch of
Stereolab fans who have heard a couple of Faust albums.
Speaking of Bark Psychosis, I notice they are on the "Whore" Wire
tribute album (which is definitely on my shopping list - BP, Main,
Lush, MBV...). Does this mean the band are continuing without the two
members who are now Boymerang? An interview I read in the Wire
recently implied that Graham Sutton (I think that's the one) considered
BP to be over and done with.
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 26/03/96
[email protected], http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Stereolab - Refried Ectoplasm
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:56:18 -0800
Tony Ting pleaded:
>1) What brand of computer are you using?
>2) Which computer brand do you think is the best of the best?
>3) What do you think of the brand Compaq?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:23:49 -0500
On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Jose A. Garcia Camil wrote:
> Just saw the movie Heat (Robert de Niro, Al PAcino) yesterday. I know, I
> live in Mexico so movies tend to arrive a little late from the US. In the
> scene where Robert de Niro and all the gang are coming out of a restauran=
> and Al Pacino and crew are watching them, I=B4m pretty sure I heard a tra=
> from M. Brook=B4s Cobalt Blue cd. It=B4s the one that sound very U2 -ish.=
> somebody tell me which track is it?
Im not sure which scene exactly youre refering to, but i do know that=20
lisa gerrard is featured twice in the HEAT sdtrk. There's a complete=20
track listing for the soundtrack on the warner bros. wwweb page too.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 03:42:49 -0800
Um, have you heard Shallow?
They're on Zero Hour and have an album _3D Stereo Trouble_ that has some nice
guitary, sometimes swirlish, fem vox sound. Haven't actually heard it in a
while as I think it was stolen from the station. I emailed someone in Kansas who
was going to try finding them once.
They also have a 5" for "Cool 500," a track of the above album, and a new CD
called _Cd Laser Lens Cleaner_ which sounded a little less solid than 3DST
but there are some good tracks, two are remixes done by Sonic Boom, which
are rather spacey and cool.
Maybe Bleach could be compared to early Lush.. that punky angry sound.
You've heard them?
I too missed getting Shaving the tix for the Whiskey, by about 38 hours or so.
They may release unclaimed "promo" tix at the door on the day of the show,
or at least I'm hoping. They did that for me when a Kristin Hersh show sold out.
Or you could see them at The Palace?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:27:58 -0500
Problem is...some of us became apalled at the sudden flood of posts on "Stone
Temple Pilots" and promptly deleted every post with "STP" in the subject line
without bothering to read them, then later realizing...
And the new Lush isn't THAT bad, but it is very "generic" sounding. Beautiful
clear vinyl LP packaging too, but that wasn't Lush's fault (not directly,
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:51:21 -0600
Which mix of Pump is the one withdrawn due to legal problems?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:36:02 -0800
Mar 1996 00:50:56 -0600
> Has anyone heard any of the albums by Rise and Fall of a
> Decade? They're on the Hyperium label and they have a
> great track on the first Heavenly Voices CD. Are the
> albums as good? Do all the tracks sound the same and
> become repetitive?
I have one of their albums, which, as Martin stated, has songs of
varying quality and style. It's pretty good BUT be forewarned that in contrast
to the Heavenly Voices track the man sings as much or MORE than the woman on
almost all the songs. I like the woman's voice better, but i'll admit i'm
biased in that direction.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:23:58 -0800
to everyone that replied to my M/A/R/R/S question, thanks for the info.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:42:22 -0800
>Problem is...some of us became apalled at the sudden flood of posts on
>Temple Pilots" and promptly deleted every post with "STP" in the
>without bothering to read them, then later realizing...
>And the new Lush isn't THAT bad, but it is very "generic" sounding.
>Beautiful clear vinyl LP packaging too, but that wasn't Lush's fault
How about this, the new Stone Temple Pilots sounds like old Lush and
the new Lush sounds like old Stone Temple Pilots!
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:27:00 -0500
I saw the swirlies a couple of years ago and was not very impressed.
Sounded alot like 'isnt anything' era mbv... not that that is a bad
thing, but its not that interesting regurgitated by bands not as
talented as mbv.
I didnt realise the swirlies were still releasing stuff. I would be
interested to hear if they have forrayed into any new territory...
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:19:00 PST
>Can anyone tell me what Autechre's 2-disc blank-bronze-cover album is
>like? What other bands are good comparisons? Thanks for the help!
I just bought this yesterday. I haven't had a chance to listen to it fully
yet (as I spent most my "quality listening time" with the _fabulous_ Wire
tribute album "Whore," which includes the first new My Bloody Valentine
track since '91! I strongly recommend this...) -- but I'll give my
impressions so far...
First, this 2CD includes what I consider to be Autechre's best of all their
releases I've heard (which is nearly everything now), the _Garbage_ EP. It
is anything but (garbage); in fact I still think this is one of the best
releases of last year by anyone. I've gone off on various lists about this
EP and its incredible title track, probably on this list too, so I feel a
bit redundant about talking about it in too much detail. Suffice it to say
that it is a must-have for anyone interested in innovative
That said, a close runner-up to _Garbage_, I discovered last night, is
_Anvil Vapre_, the other EP which is compiled on this CD set. I was blown
away by the first track... they use dissected chunks of static-y noise as a
rhythm device, intricately interwoven with various other electronic
percussive (as well as harmonic and melodic) elements. The overall
composition is much less repetitive than most songs in this "genre," yet
repetition is skillfully used as a device. I know that sounds contradictory,
but I think it may make sense once one hears the track. As a whole, the
piece changes and delevops quite a bit. At the same time, rhythmic
structures form a cohesive lattice and a hypnotic texture.
My verbose babbling can't do these tracks (Garbage1 and AV1) justice. Get
it; well worth the price.
BTW, the nice ultraMinimal bronze/gold packaging, while great in its
austerity, hides some _amazing_ design inside. If you've seen the original
vinyl covers for the two versions of Anvil Vapre, it is similar to this.
Bands that are good for comparison? At Autechre's finest moments (as I said,
included in this CD set), they defy comparison, which is one reason I like
them so much. But some points of reference would be: Aphex Twin's better
work; Coil/ELpH's more minimal instrumental work; Seefeel's more electronic
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:34:45 -0800
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:26:37 -0500
> It's pretty good BUT be forewarned that in contrast
> to the Heavenly Voices track the man sings as much or MORE than the woman on
> almost all the songs.
Yeah, I've noticed that too, on CDs like Kirlian Camera, Stoa, etc. What is
the deal? Hyperium sucks us in with the Heavenly Voices track, then gives us
a CD that sounds almost NOTHING like the track off the teaser.
> I like the woman's voice better, but i'll admit i'm biased in that
Me too. I find the majority of the CDs I buy have female vocalists of one
sort or other. It's not intentional, I swear! Female vocalists just evoke
stronger emotions in me, I think.
Can you imagine _Sten_ Nordenstam? :D Singing with a young boy's waif-like
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:29:59 -0700
Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:26:37 -0500
> > I like the woman's voice better, but i'll admit i'm
> biased in that
> > direction.
> Me too. I find the majority of the CDs I buy have
> female vocalists of one sort or other. It's not
> intentional, I swear! Female vocalists just evoke
> stronger emotions in me, I think.
> Can you imagine _Sten_ Nordenstam? :D Singing with a
> young boy's waif-like voice?
Yeah, i can imagine it. It would sound like i do when i sing along ... and it
just isn't the same. :(
-cz ... he watches her from behind ...
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 03:12:56 GMT
> Noisy But Empty CD (Hyperium 1993)
> You Or Sidney CD (Hyperium 1994)
I actually prefer the earlier unfocussed Noisy But Empty to the later
You or Sidney. For me, YoS is too focussed... to the point of
seeming too repetitive. Then again, they didn't tighten in the directions
I liked that were touched on in NbE
(I am able to apprehend it only in a series of snapshots, still lifes,
and fast takes of conversation, as it were, and when with heightened
concentration I try to move in closer, everything seems to move away
from me; perhaps I am somewhat overinvolved with this) (- B.Malzberg)