Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Subject: ralske, ropers, esp
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Subject: Re: ralske, ropers, esp
Subject: Re: Lush etc.
Subject: Re: Amps
Subject: Re: 4AD freaks: WATCH OUT!
Subject: question about the sundays
Subject: Re: 4AD freaks: WATCH OUT!
Subject: Re: Five "very important" 4AD questions
Subject: Re: mojave on the radio last night
Subject: Re: Nadja [thislisty movie #2]
Subject: Good Times! huhuhuh
Subject:
Subject: Skinny Puppy news
Subject: Re: Mojave(3) tape up for bid
Subject: mimi goese
Subject: mo wax
Subject: ugh. Fight the urge!
Subject: Re: Lowlife!!
Subject: bad kiddieflicks/happy Joy Division (sic)/S(c)heer/Swirlies
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy news
Subject: no US otherness???
Subject: Re: no US otherness???
Subject: Re: no US otherness???
Subject: Re: Five "very important" 4AD questions
Subject: Lush Pedals? Or- behead the bowlegged chicken
Subject: Re: moose
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy news
Subject: Re: Two "very important" 4AD questions/Breeders
Subject: Re: mimi goese
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:13:27 -0500
For Americans, it was their first album. There was no Garlands or EPs
before TPO, so it seems like an album. I didn't know it was a
compilation for a long time because I didn't own it, and when I did
get a copy, it was a cassette tape someone made for my ex-girlfriend.
I really don't want to talk about this anymore...it's subject to
debate but a compilation was not what was in mind when they asked
about your favorite album.
What do you folks know about 'moose' and 'The Felt'? Are there web
pages for either of them?
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 02:17:28 -0500
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but the most recent 7-inch
(and I think the new album?) by Slumberland Records' the Ropers was produced
by our UVS-mastermind friend Kurt Ralske. It's damn good stuff too: fuzzy
guitar and breathy vocals which can rock out in just the right places. YOu
all should check it out.
Also, it appears that ESP-Summer is being released domestically on
Farrago Records out of Houston. My station just got the 10-inch today
and it's limited to only 1000 copies. Good stuff!
jason eugene
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 02:26:55 -0400
On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Michael R. M. Cheselka wrote:
> For Americans, it was their first album. There was no Garlands or EPs
> before TPO, so it seems like an album.
Beg pardon, I know plenty of Americans who bought CT stuff on import
before TPO. Also since TPO came out on an indie, I don't think it
made quite the impression that it might have if, say, Sire had
released it. But of course this is only my experience, others' may
differ...
> What do you folks know about 'moose' and 'The Felt'? Are there web
> pages for either of them?
Felt, not "the" Felt. Best band ever (well, almost). What do you want
to know? I heard someone did a web page, but haven't seen it...
-----
wendy
"I need the First Amendment so that I'll be able to say to people who
say things I do not agree with, `Look, you yellow-bellied son of a bitch,
you run on all fours, you molest small children, you have the mind of an
adolescent tyrant.' I need to be able to answer them back." --Molly Ivins
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 02:57:24 -0400
On Sat, 14 Oct 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but the most recent 7-inch
> (and I think the new album?) by Slumberland Records' the Ropers was produced
> by our UVS-mastermind friend Kurt Ralske. It's damn good stuff too: fuzzy
> guitar and breathy vocals which can rock out in just the right places. YOu
> all should check it out.
Kurt did the album too. I enthusiastically second the recommendation.
And check out their earlier Slumberland EP too.
-----
wendy
"I need the First Amendment so that I'll be able to say to people who
say things I do not agree with, `Look, you yellow-bellied son of a bitch,
you run on all fours, you molest small children, you have the mind of an
adolescent tyrant.' I need to be able to answer them back." --Molly Ivins
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:54:47 -0700
> and CD, no 7" (which is odd, because I would have thought 7" was the
> natural home of the lo-fi punk rock single). I still think it stinks,
I think Elektra may have released it on 7", but i'm not sure
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:51:39 -0700
On Thu, 12 Oct 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> does anyone know if the UK Tipp City ep is 12" only? that's all they
> have at my local import shop. Is it also on cd, I hope?
>
Yuppers... it's available in a digipak form.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:08:04 -0500
> > > "Good Times"
Not again!
czinexasperation
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 01:49:51 -0700
hey!
just wondering what other cds and such did the sundays put out besides
their 2 cds, "reading writing and arithmetic", and "blind". i.e. eps,
live stuff, etc...a little discography would be appreciated!
thanks!
p.s. listening to "reading writing and arithmetic" right now and
remembered they were on the rough trade label...did they release anything
besides "rw&a" before, i.e. the slowdive eps before "just for a day"?
laters!
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:11:11 -0400
Not again. Didn't we all go through this "good times" thing before?
Not to waste the message, I've been listening to air miami: me me me, and
while it sounds great, some of the lyrics make the femmes look like poets.
AlexX
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:32:28 +0200
>First, does anyone know anything about the band HOPE HULL, which the
>unofficial 4AD catalog web-site lists as releasing a new album in February?
This is the message Roy Burns
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:01 -0400
>first date as mojave3 will be in mexico on november 2nd followed by a
>london date around november the 20th, nothing else planned.
Apparently they will be playing with His Name Is Alive as part of some Day of
the Dead (no Jerry Garcia references, please) festivities in Mexico City.
Get your plane tickets and passports ready, folks....
Cheers,
hk
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:39 -0400
> and something by Verve.
they used "One Way To Go"-- it was the love song for girly couple
Nadja-vampire woman and the wife, the Juliana Hatfield look-alike.
lorraine
* mind you, the Nadja actress is the same chick who appears in Hal
Hartley movies-- in Amateur they played "Only Shallow"... wait i know
none of this is 4ad related...well just so you know...
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:46:24 +0200
Er...
>> What, again???
>>
>> This is a VERY VERY VERY old hoax. Anyway, as I'm sure most people will
>>realise, simply reading an
>> ASCII message via your mailreader cannot trash your hard drive.
>>
>> now is it only me or this whole crap about the "good times" virus is nothing
>> but a huge chain letter that keeps poping up everytime a newbie comes
>> across it?
>>
>> The "good times" virus is a well-documented hoax. Don't worry about it.
>>
>> oh no. not THIS again!
Oops, I feel a bit silly now but I didn't know. I'm only on the net for a
couple of months so this joke fooled me... I'll better let this "good and
caring friend" know he's an idiot too.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:28:11 -0400
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:18:00 CDT
1. CevinKey/Goettel and the gang's project Download has eventually an album out
on Cleopatra, called "Process". Voc. by Genesis P. Orridge
2. According to the rumours, Goettel died some time in August. Overdose..
3. Nivek Ogre has his own project called Welt.
4. Skinny Puppy will release some material under the name "Furnace" next year.
Hard to say for sure, they have problems with their label American.
Salute.
Boroda
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:20:02 -0400
it free. Please e-mail me the name of your second highest bidder after
you're done, and I'll send them mine for the cost of the postage. I'm not a
goody two-shoes, but I can't see making money off of 4AD promotional stuff.
Jay in LA
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:30:05 -0500
Just doing random Lycos searches, and I discovered that the singer for
the late lamented Hugo Largo, Mimi Goese, took a break from her
performance art to collaborate with Moby on a few tracks on his new
album. I haven't cared much for Moby's product in the pass, does Mimi
redeem the new one?
--
Computers are useless / D.Stephen Roy \ Die in your thoughts every
they can only give < [email protected] > morning and you will no
you answers - Picasso \ Don't rock, wobble! / longer fear death - Hakakure
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:13:43 EDT
this may not be thislisty, but i'm not sure who else to ask.
a friend of mine has a various artists disc(the title escapes me), and a
u.n.k.l.e. 12" both of which are on a label called mo wax. both releases are
great hip-hop/jazz that is almost exclusively instrumental. the problem is i
can not find a store anywhere that carries this label. he bought them somewhere
in new york when he visited a couple of months ago and can't remember the name
of the store. does anyone know where i could order stuff that was released on
this label? any information is greatly appreciated.
thanks,
alan
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:36:28 -0500
> >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet.
> >If you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times",
I hear the virus causes an uncontrollable urge on the part of the infected user
to inform everyone on the planet of it's existence; and for all the other
"infectees" to loudly meow in dissent.
Dont.......give.......in!!!! ...must....have....discipline...to...defeat..virus
...alas, I am undone! I have gone and hit "reply". : o
marvynHortman who now bleeds and sucks his thumb.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:23:07 -0700
Marianne writes:
>My record shopping always includes a search for Lowlife. I went up
>to Toronto in August and found From a Scream to a Whisper on vinyl,
>but no material past 1991, when San Artorium was put out.
By total coincidence (can you say "plate o' shrimp"?) the following entry
appeared in Ear/Rational Music's pre-orders list today:
>Lowlife-Gush CD LOLIF1OCD $16.50
>Former Cocteau Twin Will Heggie and cohorts return with their 5th
>studio album, and their first since 1991's "San Antorium". 9 tracks of
>lush sounding and accessible songs that are a natural progression; and
>with the addition of Jennifer Bachenget on harmony vocals, should
>garner them new fans, as well as satisfy their older fans. Very melodic
>& English. On Anoise Annoys.
For info on Ear/Rational send mail to "[email protected]" with
"HELP" in the body.
--Jens
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:06:32 -0400
>...i have hit the lowest of lows, and have witnessed bad family film
> after bad family film these last few days. it's disgusting and repulsive
> and if another movie like Little Giants comes out, i'm going to hit rock
> bottom and commit cinema suicide...no more movies PG-13 or "softer"...
k-j, k-j, k-j...why are you doing this to yourself? Go see To Die For or
something and you'll soon snap out of it...
>Marion try to do this "happy version of Joy Division"
>and if there are two things nobody can combine than those are
>happyness and Joy Division.
or JD and "white-boy soul", as Paul Young so ably demonstrated
>I don't know if its the same band but I've seen an album by Sheer on
>Creation. There only seems to be about six songs on it so it seems to be
>a bit of gamble to purchase.
It's not the same band. Sheer the Creation band don't seem to have put
anything out for about 4 years and I imagine they've been dropped for not
making Alan McGee's drug fund as large as it could be and for not being
Oasis. I have no idea what they sound like, though. Scheer the 4AD band we
know about and they have a 'c' in their name.
>"Blondertongueaudiobaton" still rules. I hear the Swirlies
>are still pretty much together, but without Seana ... do they have a
>similar sound? When's a new album going to be out?
The last I heard was that it was finally going to come out before the end of
the year (but I can't remember exactly when). Christina Files has replaced
Seana (now with her own band, Syrup) on guitar. I saw them last summer and
the new somgs seemed very much in the Blonder... vein but in an interview
around the same time, Damon was talking about using vibraphones and other
instruments and how the drummer had been studying African drumming. There
was no sign of that at the gig, although they did mess around with a couple
of Casios between songs.
Larry, who finds himself humming Soundgarden's "The Day I Tried To Live"
more often than he cares to think about (and more often than anything by
Catherine Wheel, for that matter)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:01:03 EST
First off, I don't think Skinny Puppy really qualifies as thislisty, no
matter how much you tweak the term...
However, for any Puppy fans out there, I feel the need to correct some
>1. CevinKey/Goettel and the gang's project Download has eventually an
album out
>on Cleopatra, called "Process". Voc. by Genesis P. Orridge
The project is indeed called Download, but the album is called "Furnace".
It is already out in the US on Cleopatra.
>2. According to the rumours, Goettel died some time in August. Overdose..
This is true and unfortunate.
>3. Nivek Ogre has his own project called Welt.
As far as I can tell, Welt has been talked about for a long time but is not
in existence. Perhaps this has changed, since Ogre probably has lots of
free time on his hands ever since Puppy broke up and Goettel died (two
separate, unrelated incidents).
>4. Skinny Puppy will release some material under the name "Furnace" next
year.
>Hard to say for sure, they have problems with their label American.
The Skinny Puppy album is called "The Process", and it's contracted to
American, although there have been problems with the label. The American
home page has some music and video clips from the album, so it seems like
it will be released relatively soon.
Lawren
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:30:22 -0600
EAR/Rational says.....
Cocteau Twins-Otherness CDS CT4 $9.25
I've just been informed by one of my UK exporters that it is not going
to be released in the States. Can anyone confirm for me please? In
case it isn't, I'll take preorders now. 4 tracks of a more ambient
style sound. On Fontana.
can anyone confirm this?
hmmm...guess i should have sent this to the cocteau list.....
lotsofslurpees.....mark
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 13:59:09 -0400
I would be very surprised if this was NOT released domestically,
considering how well Capitol has been doing with the sales of
"Twinlights". It's obvious that the band, from a strictly record-
business point-of-view, SELL RECORDS. Who knows...
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:05:56 -0700
hi!
i heard from capitol records that they will release this ep and that it
won't be an import-only release...unless things has changed, i'm not
really sure.
the indie-record shop i usually shop at told me that the mojave cd is
coming next week, import though.
laters!
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:13:59 +0100
>First, does anyone know anything about the band HOPE HULL, which the
>unofficial 4AD catalog web-site lists as releasing a new album in February?
It seems that even at 4AD no one knows anything about Hope Hull...
>Second, what are the available UK formats for "Me, Me, Me" and "Fuck You,
>Tiger" by AIR MIAMI?
'Me.Me.Me' LP and CD
'Fuck You Tiger' 7" (I got it here), 12" and CD-EP
>Third, is the new AMPS album called "Pacer" or "Empty Glasses"?
'Empty Glasses'
Frank
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:52:42 -0700
Which pedals do Lush Use? I'm going to Guitar Center tommorow and
was wondering which way to go. Their having a 2 for 1 special. OH BOY!
Brian
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:33:44 -0700
u>
Here's something i saved a while ago that should answer any moose questions
that are out there. And by the way, the big takeover is great. Buy it!
> Hello
> I saw the two posts about a Moose discography. For those interested, we ran
> a lengthy Moose interview is our current issue of Big Takeover Magazine, #36
> (180 pages!), with part two coming out in issue #37 in June. It's about a
> 90-minute interview, and we have printed the full transcript for the
> committed Moose-head!!!
> A complete discography was included in issue 36 (part 1 of the interview),
> with pictures of all the sleeves/covers of all their records. Below I list
> all ten of their releases to date (12 if one includes the two 7"s that came
> with the vinyl versions of their LPs) to fully answer the request for this
> discography posted on these two lists. All these CDs/records are pretty damn
> great!!!!!!!!! Especially the XYZ... LP.
> For any Moose fans who wish issue 36 (or fans of the other band's interviewed
> in equally long length, Lush, Oasis, Slowdive, Bob Mould, Kristin Hersh,
> Velvet Crush, Steve Albini/Shellac, Ruts, and Bad Religion), they can send us
> a check for $4.50 made out to "Jack Rabid" to
> The Big Takeover
> 249 Eldridge St. #14
> NY, NY 10002
> Lastly, Moose has a new LP in the can, though sadly bassist Lincoln Fong does
> not play on it or produce it as with the last LP, as he was over here in the
> States playing bass with the Jesus & Mary Chain, though the rest of the
> lineup, including his brother Russell, remains in tact from the lineup that
> toured the East Coast of the U.s. last year with the Cocteau Twins, who in my
> opinion deserve a lot of respect for bringing an import-only band over here
> to play for us.
> Here is a list of Moose's releases to date:
> 1) "Jack" EP (Hut U.K. 1991)
> 2) "Cool Breeze" EP (Hut U.K. 1991; 7" is called "Suzanne" instead)
> 3) "Reprise" EP (Hut U.K. 1991; 7" is called "This River Will Never Run Dry"
> instead)
> 4) SONNY AND SAM mini-LP (Virgin U.S., all tracks taken from the above three
> U.K. EPs, with a few songs sadly missing!!)
> 5) "Little Bird (Are You Happy in Your Cage)" EP (Hut U.K. 1992)
> 6) XYZ... LP (Hut U.K. 1992; vinyl copies came with a free 7" of 2 non-LP
> covers, S&M Young's "The Moon is Blue" and Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning
> Rain")
> 7) "Liquid Makeup" EP (Cool Badge U.K. 1992; note this was the band's own
> label)
> 8) "Uptown Invisible" EP (Play it Again Sam Belgium 1993)
> 9) HONEY BEE LP (Play it Again Sam Belgium 1993; vinyl copies came with a
> free 7" of 2 non-LP covers, Wire's "Kidney Bingoes" and Bobby Gentry's
> "Courtyard")
> 10) "Bang Bang" EP (Play it Again Sam Belgium)
>
>
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:29:29 -0600
On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Igor V Boronenkov wrote:
> 2. According to the rumours, Goettel died some time in August. Overdose..
yah, he did. At his mom's house in Edmonton. What a way to go....