Subject: vaughan oliver lecture in boston
Subject: Karmacoma kwestion
Subject: Re: moose discog
Subject: Wolfgang in Boston
Subject: Re: Jean Cocteau
Subject: Re: cocteau
Subject: Bettie Serveert
Subject: Re: Karmacoma kwestion
Subject: Jeff & Liz
Subject: Re: vaughan oliver lecture in boston
Subject: Closedown
Subject: Re: Bel Canto / Atlantic
Subject: Re: Closedown
Subject: Re: moose discog
Subject: Cookies
Subject: Re: Bel Canto / Atlantic
Subject: Reply to FW: Cookies
Subject: far from being snowblind
Subject: Re: Wolfgang in Boston
Subject: Cookies
Subject: Re: Bel Canto / Atlantic
Subject: Re: COOKIES
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:31:45 -0400
alright! here's the lowdown...
v.o. will be giving a lecture in boston on Wednesday, May 31. 6:30 pm
At the Massachusetts College of Art, Tower Auditorium, 621 Huntington
Avenue, 1st floor
Tickets are not being sold in advance.
General admission: $10
AIGA members: $5
Students with valid ID: $3 (mass art students free)
For more information call
AIGA/Boston hotline 617-446-9082
r
rebecca fagan: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:35:31 -0400
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 02:03:33 -0400
Hello
I saw the two posts about a Moose discography. For those interested, we ran
a lengthy Moose interview is our current issue of Big Takeover Magazine, #36
(180 pages!), with part two coming out in issue #37 in June. It's about a
90-minute interview, and we have printed the full transcript for the
committed Moose-head!!!
A complete discography was included in issue 36 (part 1 of the interview),
with pictures of all the sleeves/covers of all their records. Below I list
all ten of their releases to date (12 if one includes the two 7"s that came
with the vinyl versions of their LPs) to fully answer the request for this
discography posted on these two lists. All these CDs/records are pretty damn
great!!!!!!!!! Especially the XYZ... LP.
For any Moose fans who wish issue 36 (or fans of the other band's interviewed
in equally long length, Lush, Oasis, Slowdive, Bob Mould, Kristin Hersh,
Velvet Crush, Steve Albini/Shellac, Ruts, and Bad Religion), they can send us
a check for $4.50 made out to "Jack Rabid" to
The Big Takeover
249 Eldridge St. #14
NY, NY 10002
Lastly, Moose has a new LP in the can, though sadly bassist Lincoln Fong does
not play on it or produce it as with the last LP, as he was over here in the
States playing bass with the Jesus & Mary Chain, though the rest of the
lineup, including his brother Russell, remains in tact from the lineup that
toured the East Coast of the U.s. last year with the Cocteau Twins, who in my
opinion deserve a lot of respect for bringing an import-only band over here
to play for us.
Here is a list of Moose's releases to date:
1) "Jack" EP (Hut U.K. 1991)
2) "Cool Breeze" EP (Hut U.K. 1991; 7" is called "Suzanne" instead)
3) "Reprise" EP (Hut U.K. 1991; 7" is called "This River Will Never Run Dry"
instead)
4) SONNY AND SAM mini-LP (Virgin U.S., all tracks taken from the above three
U.K. EPs, with a few songs sadly missing!!)
5) "Little Bird (Are You Happy in Your Cage)" EP (Hut U.K. 1992)
6) XYZ... LP (Hut U.K. 1992; vinyl copies came with a free 7" of 2 non-LP
covers, S&M Young's "The Moon is Blue" and Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning
Rain")
7) "Liquid Makeup" EP (Cool Badge U.K. 1992; note this was the band's own
label)
8) "Uptown Invisible" EP (Play it Again Sam Belgium 1993)
9) HONEY BEE LP (Play it Again Sam Belgium 1993; vinyl copies came with a
free 7" of 2 non-LP covers, Wire's "Kidney Bingoes" and Bobby Gentry's
"Courtyard")
10) "Bang Bang" EP (Play it Again Sam Belgium)
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 02:29:02 -0400
Hi!
Not only am I new to this list, but also new to the internet. Just saw TWP and
hough
thought some might want to know how it was. Please be gentle...haven't had
time yet to go through the archives, so some of this may be well-known...
TWP@ The Paradise, Boston MA, 5/23/95
So Long Dead, Louis XIV, Birmingham, Fakes & Liars, Shut That Door,
People Say, A Girl Like You, Question of Time
Definate high points were Kansas/Going South, Shut That Door, and Sucker.
Haven't seen TWP yet & didn't know if they would be moody or dancey,
but basically, they rocked. The only low point was People Say...it started
off so quiet I heard more of the crowd than the song...seemed really
slow after the noise of Shut...
It's late, I'm tired. Catch 'em if they come your way. Lots more to say
but don't want to be a newbie taking up too much space.
See 'ya when I've caught up,
Keith
[email protected]
p.s...hung out and got to meet Michael! Very British, pretty nice...
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 12:59:42 -0500
He used to philosophize about eating wild mushrooms, not knowing if
they were deadly or not, and so one day the inevitable happened and he
died along with a friend. Some seem to see this is a beautiful
philosophy, but I can't help but feel it was kinda stupid. I believe
he was also a general of the French army, and opposed to the fascists.
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 00:42:17 -0500
or how about:
Didn't they have that hit "Doctor, Doctor", "You Take Me Up", or "In To
The Gap"( take your pick)?
I hear that over and over.
and also:
Other Person: I like the Sundays, or some other Cocteauesque band.
Me : Well, what do you think about the Cocteau Twins?
Other Person: Who?
Me : The Cocteau Twins.
Other Person : Never heard of them.
Me : ARRRGH!
This dialog has been repeated MANY times.
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:05:50 GMT-1DFT
Hi Lucius,
I'm a Bettie Serveert fan, but I can only tell you something about
Lamprey. I haven't yet bought Palomine.
Lamprey is a very good CD. You say you like "Ray Ray Rain" and
"Crutches" (are they out on single in the USA?). These two songs are
more or less the sound of the whole CD. I think "Crutches" is one of
the best songs. "Totally Freaked Out" is the best (look at my
signature!).
If all goes as planned I will record the concert of Bettie Serveert
at the Pinkpop Festival (5th of June in Holland). I'll send a message
to this board if the copy is of good quality, so that anyone who
wants a copy of this concert can mail me!
Cya,
Vincent.
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Vincent Bos [email protected]
<<<-------------------------------------------------->>>
Totally freaked out
In every way
Well it feels really cool
And I guess that's ok
There's no fucking reason to get me out of this mess
Well like it or not
I prefer it this way
Bettie Serveert - Totally freaked out
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:18:13 +0100
95 01:35:31 am
"James P. Crimm" Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 15:25:40 BST
Continuing in my tradition of copying bits out of Melody Maker (and
risking the wrath of IPC Magazines copyright lawyers?) I bring you a
little bit on the rumoured relationship between Jeff Buckley and Liz
Fraser. (Maybe you already know all this; anyway, here it is from
the horse's mouth.)
Caitlan Moran: "...did you and Liz Cocteau Twin `do' `it'? Everyone
thought you were An Item some months back."
Jeff Buckley: "Oh no. *Oh no*". Jeff looks shocked. "We were just
friends - very, very close friends. She's such a *good*
person, so sweet. Fucking her would be like fucking a
sister - no, Liz and I were never bed buddies. That was
all lies."
So *that's* alright, then. I hope they get to duet some time, though.
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 10:34:23 -0700
Oh and what a dynamic speaker he is. Let's just hope he's sober and
coherent this time....
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:15:22 -0700
Hello all. The new Closedown e-mail address as of tommorow is
"[email protected]", this is Jerry's email account.
I hope this goes through.
Best Wishes,
Scott McDonald
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:21:30 EDT
Mon, 22 May 1995 14:21:22 -0500
> You'd better knock on wood. Atlantic is easily the most corrupt label in
> a country full of them. They have a nasty reputation for signing bands,
> not promoting them, watching the album(s) flop, and then taking all the
> funds for themselves as expense incurred for the production & promotion
> of said album(s), and then leaving the bands in debt to the label.
> Frankly, I fear for the worst.
Oh come on. Sounds like a host of indie labels to me. Homestead
ring a bell? SST? Bar/none? The fault there lies with the bands
who take a huge advance to make the record, and then don't recover
on sales.
Atlantic has spawned Seed, which is putting out good stuff. Granted,
Seed is a farm label for bands until they become big enough for
Atlantic proper, but...
Where do you think Gerard Cosloy is getting all his Matador money?
Atlantic.
Bettie Serveert, Madder Rose, Nightblooms, Juliana Hatfield, Liz Phair,
Bats, Frente, Victoria Williams, The Fall, Helium, Pavement, Unrest,
Yo La Tengo, Fuzzy, Ivy...
I think Bel Canto would fit nicely in that list. It certainly beats
waiting eight months for the Nettwerk release like last time.
And the possibility of a tour is the best news I've heard in a while.
This could be a very good thing.
Andrew
a couple of months ago, now Elektra. Still WEA, same thing. :-)
--
Andrew Reynhout Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 15:11:47 -0400
While were on the subject....
What do Closedown sound like? I've seen the disk and I'm curious...
Mike
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 15:35:46 -0400
can you take cash for issue 36?
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:55:38 -0800
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hey various list members...
I know this isn't the usual, but being against all forms of corporate facism
and
absurd business tactics (like overpriced cd's for sale), I thought I'd pass
along this guy's message.
this
true story...
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Date: 5/23/95 9:39 PM
>From [email protected]
Date: 23 May 95 21:39:23 EDT
I got this from a mailing list I am on and thought it deserved to be passed
along. Enjoy!
_________________________________________________________
My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas
and decided to have a small dessert. Because our family are such cookie
lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It was so
excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe. With a cute
smile, she said, "Yes." I asked how much, and she responded, "Two
fifty." I said with approval, just add it to my tab. Thirty days later,
I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was $285.00. I
looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and
about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement,
it said, "Cookie-Recipe - $250.00." Boy, was I upset!! I called
Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was "two
fifty," and I did not realize she meant $250.00 for a cookie recipe.
I asked them to take back the recipe and reduce my bill and they said
they were sorry, but because all the recipes were this expensive so not
just everyone could duplicate any of our bakery recipes...the bill would
stand. I waited, thinking of how I could get even or even try and get
any of my money back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250.00 and
now I'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going
to see to it that every cookie lover will have $250.00 cookie recipe from
Neiman-Marcus for nothing. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this."
I said, "I'm sorry but this is the only way I feel I could get even," and
I will. So, here it is, and please pass it to someone else or run a few
copies....I paid for it; now you can have it for free. (Recipe may be
2 cups butter 4 cups flour 2 tsp. soda
2 cups sugar 5 cups blended oatmeal** 24 oz. chocolate
chips
2 cups brown sugar 1 tsp. salt 4 eggs
1 - 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) 2 tsp. baking powder
3 cups chopped nuts 2 tsp. vanilla (your choice)
Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; mix together
with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate
chips, Hershey Bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches apart
on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112
cookies.
**measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder
Have fun!!! This is not a joke-----this is a true story....................
That's it. Please, pass it along to everyone you know, single people,
mailing lists, etc..... 100
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:15:39 -0700
On Wed, 24 May 1995, D Andrew Reynhout wrote:
> > You'd better knock on wood. Atlantic is easily the most corrupt label in
> > a country full of them. They have a nasty reputation for signing bands,
> > not promoting them, watching the album(s) flop, and then taking all the
> > funds for themselves as expense incurred for the production & promotion
> > of said album(s), and then leaving the bands in debt to the label.
> > Frankly, I fear for the worst.
>
Hey! Is THAT what happened to Swimming with Sharks??
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 16:38:36 -0500
24 May 95 13:55:38 -0800" <[email protected]>
>Neiman Marcus myth clipped
>
Urban myth #385 rears it's ugly head. Again.
Anyone picked up the new Chandeen CD yet? Or is it still a few
days away from being released?
___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
[email protected]
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:45:15 -0700
Not that goddammned cookie recipe again!
When is this infamous piece of tripe ever going to die?
Next thing you know we'll all be dealing with that
'good times' virus all over again. Don't think we've seen the
last of that one either.
Back to 4AD. They sent me the Joe Friday promo 7". The
Licorice track is basically Tsunami, pure and simple.
Haven't paid enough attention to the other 2 tracks yet.
The funny thing is the note scribbled on mailing label
which says, "don't make fun of Kendra, ok?"
Away from 4AD. Elysium. If anyone read Gil's review of the
album and wants to pre-order it from us, it's $10 until the
unknown release date ($10.83 in CA). From the release date
on, it will be the usual $11.50.
There is a Dewdrops show (of sorts) in the works featuring
Elysium and Sonya Waters (formerly of Orange). It'll happen
sometime in June or July in Los Angeles.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas
and decided to stuff our fat asses with cookies. Because our family of fat
asses are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus chicken
meat Cookie". It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the
recipe. With a sort of twisted smile, she said, "Yes." I asked how much,
and she responded, "Two fifty K." I said with approval, just add it to my tab.
one day later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was
$250,029.95. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two
salads and about $20.00 for cookies. As I glanced at the bottom of the
statement, it said, "Cookie-Recipe - $250,000.00." Boy, was I pissed!! I
called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was "two
fifty K," and I did not realize she meant $250,000.00 for a cookie recipe.
I tried to play ignorant but they didn't fall for it.
I asked them to take back the recipe and reduce my bill and they said
they were sorry, but because all the recipes were this expensive so not
just everyone could duplicate any of our bakery recipes...the bill would
stand. Two days later some folks from the department store showed up and gave
me the ass beating of my life. They went insane on my fat ass. I didn't
think this act of senseless violence would ever end. My fat ass felt a
kind of pain I could never describe. The beating grew more sickening
by the minute. My pig like screams could be heard around the neighborhood.
Never cross a big department store.