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Subject: Re: album release dates?
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:46:49 +0000
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From: Shaun Hamontree (Shaun_Hamontree@PHONEY.TFNET.ORG)
Subject: Re: Tarnation Cline!
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:13:40 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Questions
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:32:33 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:15:48 PST
From: La Casa de Pereza (scalliha@CONC.TDS.NET)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:15:51 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Obsessed with Audrey...
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:25:02 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: Re: 4AD HQ Secrets out of the bag
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:40:08 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: tape
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:34:10 -0800
From: justin (jc7664b@AMERICAN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lilliput ?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:12:50 +0200
From: J Curtis (curtisj@icl.co.za)
Subject: Re: 4AD Questions
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:47:24 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation to Curtis Hall
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:41:29 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:40:49 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 13 year itch, other 4AD comps FS
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:49:24 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: PV
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:37:28 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:50:05 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net)
Subject: Creeping Jenny
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:54:02 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net)
Subject: Re: Tarnation Cline!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:42:14 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: would you like to, like, hear our music?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 04:33:58 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: 60 questions
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:34:33 -0500
From: "the bus that couldn't slow down" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: spirea x
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:48:02 +0200
From: A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK
Subject: Re: Lilliput
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:45 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: This Mortal Coil
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:50:05 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: sleeves are done
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:08:13 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: hugo largo sighting
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:53:00 -0600
From: jcleveland@CLANDJOP.COM
Subject: Re: DCD and GUS UK promo questions
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:22:21 GMT
From: Jonathan Smith (whale@GLOBALNET.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: DCD and GUS UK promo questions
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:52:51 -0600
From: jcleveland@CLANDJOP.COM
Subject: eyesore on cd?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:59:29 +-200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen[SMTP:larsi@IFI.UIO.NO]
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:37:24 -0800
From: Jon Wynacht (JonW@ACCOUNTMATE.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins promo CD?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:16 -0500
From: butterfly mcqueen (eehong@WESLEYAN.EDU)
Subject: replying privately
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:05:04 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: cds-a-gogo
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:38:48 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Shellyan Orphan
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:22:01 -0500
From: Greg Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:43:21 -0500
From: mr bean jeans (woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tsunami
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:01:20 -0500
From: mr bean jeans (woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:28:38 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: His Name Is Alive (part 4 of the warren interview)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:08:23 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: eyesore on cd?
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:17:27 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: 4ad(ish) cd sale
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:28:41 -0500
From: Robert Foster (smorin@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Gus Gus
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:55:42 -0600
From: Ernesto (neitzl@www.teqcorp.com.mx)
Subject: Re: plying privately/700/new throwing muses
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:43:53 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:46:49 +0000
From: VK (primitec@slip.net)
Subject: Re: album release dates?


<>>>

 UK release dates

Tarnation
  Your Thoughts EP 7"  Release Date: 24-Feb-97
  Your Thoughts EP CDS  New single on 4AD. Release Date: 24-Feb-97


Laika
  Breather 7"Release Date: 3-Feb-97
  Sounds Of The Satellites LP  Release Date: 24-Feb-97
  Sounds Of The Satellites CD 12 track 2nd TOO PURE full length.

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:13:40 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation Cline!


In a message dated 2/5/97 9:36:17 PM, you wrote:
<>

Hmmmm....
I'd say the new single sounds more like Crown of Creation-era Jefferson
Airplane, but that's just me.
Check out the band for yourself - don't make a comment like "that's just sad"
until you've heard the music yourself.
And we're not on the 4AD list to talk about dime-a-dozen alterna-bands like
SNZippers.  I'll hold out for the new Tarnation album and Gus Gus.
CJ
CreigJ@aol.com

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:32:33 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Questions

A66985

This is a test by the emergency broadcasting system.  The broadcasters in
your area along with local. . .

> 1. Is the Cocteau Twins single box set still available in the United
>  States. A friend of mine saw the eropean version in Vienna and it was
>  really expensive. Is there a big diffrence between them?

no difference, cept the u.k. one has. . .u.k. numbering and is 4AD and th=
e
U.S. has U.S. numbering and is 4AD/capitol.

>  2. Is there any possibility of finding a book containing a selection o=
f
>  v23 and Vaughn and Oliver=B4s work?

this rimy river - regular edition (for mere mortals).  *and* the this rim=
y
river **special edition** weighing in at over 300 pounds with lemme
everything and a special glass case for alpha 4AD collectors ;)   honestl=
y,
there is 2 versions and my sources. . . hold on a sec., yep my sources sa=
y
the regular edition is the most attainable and affordable of the 2.

>  3. Has the e.p of the Twinstwistle Brass band ever released in America.
>  Also is there a C.D. version of the Pale Saint=B4s E.P that has a "hid=
den
>  track"?

hmm.  I'll pass on the Brass question.  Hidden track?  maybe Mrs. Dolphin=
 -
don't own a copy but somebody does and they're secretly snickering becaus=
e
they know the answer - and I don't :(

>  4. Is there any possibility of finding a box set containing all of the
>  Pixies and Breeders E.P=B4s?

Borrow, beg, steal, and get a cd burner and *everything* my friend is
attainable.  In other words, there hasn't been an official box release of
them - but most ep's by both bands should still be in print (save the
breeders, 'head to toe' and a coupla early pixies efforts).

>  5. Which bands have Peel sessions besides the Cocteau Twins, Xmal
>  Deutschland and The Birthday Party? Are they available somewhere?

ahhiieee.  donna know - again.  I know there are quite a few w/ L.A.
equivalent of in studio appearances via KCRW from the likes of Kendra Smi=
th,
Mojave 333, RHP, and Kozelek solo, Pale Saints etc.  as for other Peel
sessions. . .

>  6. Which bands and artists have good quality recordings of their conce=
rts
>  and presentations? I mean bootleg recordings. Not the one from Lush so=
ld
>  by KTS which has a horrible sound quality.

Usually KTS puts out decent quality live cds, but I haven't heard the Lus=
h
you're referring to, so I'm not in the know on that.  DCD have 5 or 6 boo=
ts
on different labels, so if at all possible "listen before you buy".  Othe=
r
KTS by the Breeders and Belly are fairly decent too.

>  7. Is there a big difference between Unrest=B4s Imperial FFRR release =
in
>  America and the U.K.?  Besides the Portrait, is there a difference bet=
ween

>  the track listing? Should I buy the American or the British Version?

Mine is the U.S. TEEEN BEEAAAT version w/ 11 tracks.  The u.k. vinyl had =
a
bonus 7" (as did all the Guernica vinyl).  CD u.k. is an enigma.

>  8. Where can I speak with Ivo about a local band in here who has been
>  working for more than eight years and whose influences include: Pixies=
,
>  Cocteau Twins, New Order, Bela Bartok and The Cure?

telegram. . .billboards. . .imitate a southern California career road
rockabilly band tho if you *really* want his attn. :)

>  9. Which bands have toured or been "incognito" in South America,
>  especially in my country: Colombia?

only one I know of recently is DCD.

>  10. Air Miami=B4s Me.Me.Me. release states that there are more Air Mia=
mi=B4s
>  releases in cassette. All though they are offered by Teenbeat, has any=
 one
>  heard them?

I'm sure someone has heard them, but finding them is an entirely differen=
t
story.

>  11. Is there any possibility of finding a copy of the American release=
 of
>  all This Mortal Coil=B4s box set called 1983-1981 now?

I still see it in shops every now and again, if you become utterly desper=
ate
let me know and I (or someone on this altruistic list will pick one up fo=
r
you).

>  12. Has any band or artist released a C.D.Rom with 4ad? Are there plan=
s to
>  release one?

No.  and Don't know.  If this were the subharmonic mailing list I would s=
ay,
"yes" and they are all the same.

>  13. Has any one heard a band called Tsunami and another one called The
>  Glee Club?

Tsunami, yes - Jenny Toomeys deal there (she of the liqourice moniker).  =
The
Glee Club are outta Ireland and on their Sentanta label in the u.k. and w=
as
distributed by 4AD here in the states.  MIA ever since _mine_ - whatta sh=
ame
too.  There was another band that duped me into buying their album entitl=
ed
just "glee club".  That was embarrassing and the band was not good - why =
is
there not patents on these damn similar things??

>  14. This Mortal Coil=B4s first release, "Sixteen Days Gathering" has b=
een
>  released in America as a C.D. Which artists are featured?

I don't think it has. . .

>  15. Whatever happened with the girls from Xmal Deutschland. Was the Pe=
el
>  Sessions recordings their last one?

They regrouped, called themselves "the rossberger report" had a deal line=
d up
once again w/ 4AD and that was the end of that.  Nothing ever came of it =
and
I think they are now doing skydiving lessons in the far east - believe it=
 or
not.

>  16. Is Ivo married, who can make a biography of him? This is because I
>  want to write an article of the label and I would like to get this
>  information.

Someone?

>  17. Is there any possibility of making a "Son of This Mortal Coil" as =
Ivo
>  said in 1993?

Hypothesized, but never materialized. . .yet.

>  18. Has there been some other release of 4ad posters in these years?

'cept for the vol. 2 a few years back, no.  Promo 4AD posters - prolly
different ones in the u.s. and u.k. for each full-length I would speculat=
e
(and have actually seen mercilessly tacked to some rekkid shop walls as
proof).

>  19. Where can I find the Lilies release? I=B4ve been searching for it =
for
>  more than two years and it is impossible to find it.

Lilys - the chameleon we're-MBV-no-we're-a-pseudo-Dinosaur-Jr.-no-forget-=
it
band or
the Cranes promo release "the lilies"?

>  20. Is the Guernica sublabel still functioning?

No, they're in Detox.

>  21. Is there some independence between 4ad America and 4ad U.K.?

Ivo can sign whoever he wants in the U.S. and the U.K. still has to
distribute it - so not really ;)

>  22. Two or more opportunities I sent the card for obtaining a copy of =
the
>  label=B4s catalog. A local recordstore has a copy of it. But where are=
 mine?


I sent away for Anakin Skywalker when I was nine - (i'm 22 now) and I sti=
ll
check the mailbox everyday looking for it.  Keep the faith my man.

>  23. Whatever happened to Modern English, Colourbox and In Camera?

Modern English have but one song - and they just toured this past summer =
in
support of it!!  Colourbox is an x-file for the moment.  In Camera disban=
ded
after hearing their releases :)

>  24. The Lonely is an Eyesore Video compilation has ever been released =
in
>  America?

No, but it is still available.

>  25. Which bands share members simultaneously? (Example: The Pixies
>  "shared" their bassist Kim Deal with The Breeders)

This Mortal Coil - everybody.
HNIA - guest mr. kozelek.
Tarnation - band sans Paula is from Broken Horse.
Amps - Kim Deal from that other band.
Liquorice - Trey Many of Velour 100 & HNIA, Dan Ida from Ida, J. Toomey f=
rom
Tsunami.
Ultra Vivid Scene - Kurt Ralske of the famous "I'm Kurt Ralske and I'm
leaving earth permanently" all star band.

to be continued. . .

jason


srilank@aol.com


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:15:48 PST
From: La Casa de Pereza (scalliha@CONC.TDS.NET)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?


  Sarah and Mark,
Gimme, Gimme!
New music, hoorah!
Female vocals, woohoo!
Seriously, though, I would very much like a copy.

Thanks much,
Sean Callihan
928 WestCourt Dr.
Knoxville, TN 37919
scalliha@conc.tds.net

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:15:51 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?


hi s&m,

i'd love to hear your music;
i'd be grateful for a copy of your cassette

best wishes,
max medina
6658 whitley terrace
los angeles, ca 90068-3221
--
t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
     http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
{ catalogue number 30/version 13 }

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:25:02 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: Obsessed with Audrey...


I just received the new scheer EP, "Demon" (BAD7006CD).  Go here for a
peek at the cover art http://www.wbr.com/4ad/news/index.html.  While two
of the three tracks are previously released - "Demon" sounds like the
album version and "Sex Kitten" is from SCHEER4CD, the real gem is the
beautiful "Obsession" in which Audrey sings in her most affecting
recorded vocals yet!  It's no secret I'm a fan of Ms. Gallagher but
hearing "Obsession" just confirms why I love scheer so much.  A fine
three-tracker for sure!  The dino on the sleeve is a demon??

...and while on the subject of very affecting 4AD vocalists, if anyone
can translate info from the woman of "Why?" and "Is Jesus Your Pal?"
fame's web page http://www.nm.is/torrini/, please let me know.  Although
she's not a formal member of GusGus, Emiliana Torrini is yet another
truly wonderful addition to 4AD's league on incredible female vocalists.

-------------------------
| Jeff Keibel           |
| Scarborough, ON       |
| CANADA                |
| redshift@interlog.com |
-------------------------

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:40:08 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: 4AD HQ Secrets out of the bag


>  43. Has any one visited the 4ad offices? How are they decorated?

I visited the three story (or was it four) house on Alma Road back in the
summer
of 1995 when I and some fellow university design students from Toronto went
to meet Vaughan Oliver and Chris Bigg. It is very much as you would probably
expect it to be for an independent record company. It is a suburban house
that is painted white on the walls and has alot of small rooms. In some
rooms are offices of various 4AD/Beggars Banquet staff, with music
blaring throughout the house. Most wall surfaces are covered with both framed
and shrink-wrapped 4AD posters (the 13th year itch one taking up a special
place on the mantel in the tv/office room where videos are previewed by
Vaughan and others (there Vaughan showed us his Documania and Microsoft
commercials and some of the basic Playstation stuff), the majority of
the rooms have boxes of tapes and other stuff either being opened
or packed away. There is a real "homey" feel to the offices and a family
spirit.
Down in the basement is found the reddish purple and goldish painted studio
of v23 with Chris Bigg, Vaughan's and Kees/Adrian's drafting tables
set up. Paul had not been there when I visited. The basement is
shared with winding stockrooms filled with  4AD/BB product and
Vaughan's closet of ephemera. Alot of the meetings at 4AD seem to
take place not at the HQ but in either the Slug and Lettuce
or the Alma (where the majority of our afternoon with v23 was spent
swilling Vaughan's best Lager recommendations). The studio has a stereo
where Vaughan, Chris and others can audition the demos or listen to
Future Sound Of London, reggae or whatever other inspirations
Adrian or Kees are digging. According to Vaughan during football season,
the staff apparently spend more time down the pub.

I hope that enriches everyone's idea of 4AD.

Steven

**************************************
Steven Venn, bfa, Graphic Designer
Dalmatian Design Communications
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601


"Listen pal, you can't waltz in here, use my toaster
and start spouting universal truths without qualification"
                               - Jude from Hal Hartley's "Surviving Desire"

"Would you leave the lights alone please.
Stop flashin' the f**kin' lights"
                               -Future Sound of London on "ISDN"

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:34:10 -0800
From: justin (jc7664b@AMERICAN.EDU)
Subject: tape


sign me up for a copy of the tape as well
i'd be glad to send a couple of bucks as reimbursement for costs
my addy is:
justin cameron
hughes hall 506
american university
4400 massachussetts ave.
washington, dc 20016-8105

thanks!

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:12:50 +0200
From: J Curtis (curtisj@icl.co.za)
Subject: Re: Lilliput ?


I have a copy of 'Lilliput' and was wondering if anyone knew how many were
produced ?

Thanks,

Jason


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:47:24 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Questions


In a message dated 97-02-05 16:57:33 EST, you write:

<< No, they're in Detox.
  >>
Can someone please restate the address and fax of Detox and the catalog
numbers please!!!!  I really appreciate it.

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:41:29 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation to Curtis Hall


In a message dated 97-02-05 13:19:29 EST, you write:

<< Patsy Cline.....so much so that they approximate a rip-off. >>

The vocals yeah, but the music is much darker.  My lover has been aa Patsy
fan for years.  He actually thinks that Paula Frazer has a better voice.

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:40:49 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: would you like to hear our music?


In a message dated 97-02-05 08:39:41 EST, you write:

<< we've just finished a tape of our music.  our name is creeping jenny and
 we use combo organ, xylophone, synthesizers, various percussion items,
 and female vocals to make our music.  we're looking for zine reviews,
 radio show play, small label release of our music, and/or personal
 feedback and reaction.  if you'd like a copy of our cassette, please
 email us with your address and we'll send one out to you.
  >>
Sure.

My address:
Aaron Race
700 E. Washington Spc#114
Colton, CA  92324

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:49:24 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 13 year itch, other 4AD comps FS


In a message dated 97-02-05 10:26:18 EST, you write:

<< MAI PEN RAI (1993, promo light blue & purple)..............$30
 Belly - Feed the Tree
 Ultra Vivid Scene - Blood and THunder
 Frank Black - Los Angeles
 Heidi Berry - The Moon and the sun
 Red House Painters - Rollercoaster
 Dead Can Dance - The carnival is over
 His Name is Alive - In Every Ford
 Unrest - Teenage Suicide
 Underground Lovers - Promenade
 This Mortal Coil - You and Your Sister
 Matt Johnson/The The - Another boy drowing
  >>
You forgot the hidden track--Dance Chapter, Anonymity.


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:37:28 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net) To Aaron, Thanks! That was a cool observation, I will check it out.

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:50:05 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry


What does Heidi Berry sound like?

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 01:54:02 +0100
From: Curtis Hall (chall@pcisys.net)
Subject: Creeping Jenny


Please send a copy of Creeping Jenny to:
C. Hall
1140 S. Eaton Circle, Apt.1b
Castle Rock, CO 80104

Thank You!  I'm looking forward to it!

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:42:14 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation Cline!


In a message dated 97-02-05 23:31:25 EST, you write:

<< <>

 Hmmmm....
 I'd say the new single sounds more like Crown of Creation-era Jefferson
 Airplane, but that's just me.
 Check out the band for yourself - don't make a comment like "that's just
sad"
 until you've heard the music yourself.
 And we're not on the 4AD list to talk about dime-a-dozen alterna-bands like
 SNZippers.  I'll hold out for the new Tarnation album and Gus Gus. >>

Just one last thing on Tarnation.  I have been into 4AD for years and years
(since I was about 12 years old).  Other than DCD and CT, Tarnation is the
most amazing band I have heard on the label (which is saying alot).  Paula
may sound like Patsy, which is a blessing.  But, Tarnation is a leader band.
 What I mean is that reviewers refer to them consistently as a reference
band.  It is unique and original music.  Yeah, it has remenants to the past,
but that is the nature of art and music.

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 04:33:58 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: would you like to, like, hear our music?


As a former bandmate of Mark and Sarah's, I just thought I should
add...jeez, don't ANY of you people know how to respond privately?  ;G)
We don't all need to know your addresses.  Really.

Besides, I haven't even gotten my tape yet...

---Jeremy, sourpuss extraordinaire 

"She always wears the blue t-shirt with the word on it."  [?]


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 06:34:33 -0500
From: "the bus that couldn't slow down" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 60 questions


>>  19. Where can I find the Lilies release? I=B4ve been searching for it=
 for
>>  more than two years and it is impossible to find it.
>
>Lilys - the chameleon we're-MBV-no-we're-a-pseudo-Dinosaur-Jr.-no-forget-it
>band or
>the Cranes promo release "the lilies"?

I think he means the joint effort by members of the Cocteau Twins, Lush and
Moose...


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:48:02 +0200
From: A.Dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK
Subject: Re: spirea x


>> 38. What has happened to Spoonfed Hybrid, That Dog, Spirea X and
>> Underground Lovers?

>SH had an ep out on Farrago this summer, That Dog released _totally
>crushed out_ in late '95 on DGC, Spirea X evaporated, and Underground
>Lovers are still releasing material in Australia - maybe?

2 of spirea x (jim beattie and the girl) are now in adventures in stereo who
have had 3 singles and a useful compilation lp out recently on creeping bent.
new single (or maybe a rerelease of the first) available in feb, all of which
is rather good.

underground lovers *are* still releasing stuff in australia, a friend sent me a
copy of the latest recently.

andy
who can't be bothered with the other 59 questions, sorry. in fact i thought it
was a bit rude...


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:45 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: Re: Lilliput


J Curtis wrote:  I have a copy of 'Lilliput' and was wondering if anyone
knew how many were produced?

Ah yes, the elusive LILLIPUT 1/2...  If only the binding tape didn't
obscure the graphics!

I remember talking with Katherine in the spring of '92 and she said
3,000 copies were produced with 2,500 being shipped to America.  The
remaining 500 stayed in the UK and were given out to the 4AD bands and
friends invloved with 4AD...

Who is the baby, anyways??  I've been wondering for five years now!

-------------------------
| Jeff Keibel           |
| Scarborough, ON       |
| CANADA                |
| redshift@interlog.com |
-------------------------

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:50:05 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: This Mortal Coil


Hey!  As of today (Thursday), the HMV in downtown Toronto has two copies
of This Mortal Coil's "1983-1991" box set.  It's $132.99 Canadian which
works out to around six bucks US or something.  Give HMV a call ASAP if
you want one!  They wont last too long!!  416 596-0333...

-------------------------
| Jeff Keibel           |
| Scarborough, ON       |
| CANADA                |
| redshift@interlog.com |
-------------------------


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:08:13 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: sleeves are done


With the actual 'release' of our first 7" a
distant memory, we finally now have a complete
product-- yes, the sleeves are finally done.
It's a long story.

For those of you who either ordered the 7" or
got it free-- the sleeves are being mailed tomorrow
at the latest. If you don't receive yours within a week,
please contact me.

Brant

|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:53:00 -0600
From: jcleveland@CLANDJOP.COM
Subject: hugo largo sighting


i finally got to see AMP last saturday and hahn rowe
was in the credits.  "interstitial music", so i guess
he composed the music played between videos?
any news on the mimi goese cd?  the luaka bop site does
not have an update.  and i'm getting antsy.


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:22:21 GMT
From: Jonathan Smith (whale@GLOBALNET.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: DCD and GUS UK promo questions


At 18:27 05/02/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I've got a couple of anal collector questions for you all.
>--stuff about Gus Gus and DCD promos--

on a related note,  does anyone have any info on the scheer promos.
I know scheer1 was the demon 7" (which I narrowly missed out on getting free
at the belly scheer gig at the London astoria a while back) and have
scheer4cd, the first contact cd given away at their last astoria gig. Can
anyone fill in the gaps?
thanks,
         Jonah
-------whale@globalnet.co.uk----------------------------
what means hallucinate? what are we supposed to see?
what are they supposed to want? get a job! you scare me
--------------------------------throwing-muses----------

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:52:51 -0600
From: jcleveland@CLANDJOP.COM
Subject: Re: DCD and GUS UK promo questions


anal collector?!  what a yukky hobby.

On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, "Jeffrey T. Gayton"  wrote:
>I've got a couple of anal collector questions for you all.
>
>First, about those myriad Gus Gus promos. I've got the info on GUS 1 (12"
>w/ "Chocolate") and GUS 2 (12" w/ "Polydistortion"). But I also remember
>hearing about another GUS 2 that's a CD. Could some one give me more info
>on that? Is the cat. no. really "GUS 2" or is it "GUS 2 CD?" Also, what's
>the story with the "Believe" promos? I heard about a GUS 3 and a GUS 5 CD.
>Can anyone supply more info? And is there a GUS 4 somewhere?
>
>--------------------
>
>On a related note, there are three "DCD" Dead Can Dance promos I know of:
>
>DCD 1 (CD for "Baraka")
>DCD 2 (12" for "Spiritchaser")
>DCD 4 (the tour programme)
>
>Is there a DCD 3 that I've missed?
>
>
>-- Jeff
>
>Jeffrey T. Gayton
>
>jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu
>
>University of Wisconsin, Madison
>110 North Hall
>1050 Bascom Mall
>Madison, WI  53706
>
>

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:59:29 +-200
From: Strong Comet (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: eyesore on cd?


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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen[SMTP:larsi@IFI.UIO.NO]
Subject: eyesore on cd?


I'm about to back up the collection of 4ad sleeve scans onto cd (for
safekeeping), and it occurred to me that perhaps it might be nice to
put the eyesore html database onto it as well, so that one could have
everything in one neat package.  Interviews, articles, sleeves, data,
PostScript versions (in b&w and color), pictures, etc -- one would be
able to just put the cd into the cd-rom player and point a Web browser
to it.

So I wondered -- would anybody be interested in having a copy?  I
would have to charge Real Money for it (cd's aren't free, and I don't
have a cd-rom burner myself, so I would have to get somebody else to
do the copying).  Hm.  Perhaps 4AD wouldn't like me selling copies of
their artwork...  I dunno.  I just wondered if anybody is
interested...

It would basically still look like
means that you could access it faster (and offline).  I'd make the
data as up-to-date as possible before putting it on cd, of course.
You'd be able to access it from all operating systems, since it would
be just dead data and no executing programs.  You'd need a Web browser
to use it, though.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen



Yes indeed. Put me on your buyers list.
How much will it cost though ?

Eitan.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:37:24 -0800
From: Jon Wynacht (JonW@ACCOUNTMATE.COM)
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil


Is the box set out of print? If so, what's it worth? I bought a copy a
while back and never though anything of it. Could it be worth something
to someone?

Jon Wynacht


>----------
>
>Hey!  As of today (Thursday), the HMV in downtown Toronto has two copies
>of This Mortal Coil's "1983-1991" box set.  It's $132.99 Canadian which
>works out to around six bucks US or something.  Give HMV a call ASAP if
>you want one!  They wont last too long!!  416 596-0333...
>
>-------------------------
>| Jeff Keibel           |
>| Scarborough, ON       |
>| CANADA                |
>| redshift@interlog.com |
>-------------------------
>


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:16 -0500
From: butterfly mcqueen (eehong@WESLEYAN.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau Twins promo CD?


I found this used Cocteau Twins promo CD, and I was wondering if it has any
value.  Not that I'm looking to get rid of it right away; I'm just curious.
Please reply by e-mail privately (or with a CC: to me), as I unsubscribed a
while ago.

The CD's dated 1991 and includes the following tracks:

1. Aikea-Guinea (3:56) From the CD5 "Aikea-Guinea"
2. High Monkey Monk* (3:07) Previously Unreleased
3. Sigh's Smell of Farewell (3:34) From the CD5 "Love's Easy Tears"
4. Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops (4:10) From the CD5 "The Spangle Maker"
5. Dials* (2:39) Previously Unreleased
6. Hazel (2:49) From the CD5 "Peppermint Pig"
7. Quisquose (4:10) From the CD5 "Aikea-Guinea"
8. Sugar Hiccup (3:39) From the CD5 "Sunburst and Snowblind"
9. Orange Appled (2:49) From the CD5 "Love's Easy Tears"
10. Pink Orage Red (4:38) From the CD5 "Tiny Dynamine"

* Only available as part of Cocteau Twins CD Single Boxed Set.

(God, I can't believe I just wasted time by typing all of that in!)

Thanks!

; ed

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:05:04 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: replying privately


folks, I hate to be the one to have to bring this up...but with stuff like
this, please reply privately....there really is no reason why the entire
list should have to read about your desire to acquire creeping jenny's tape.
and from the way they wrote the message, it doesnt even sound like they are
subscribers to the list, so they won't get your addresses anyway!


At 02:40 AM 2/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-02-05 08:39:41 EST, you write:
>
><< we've just finished a tape of our music.  our name is creeping jenny and
> we use combo organ, xylophone, synthesizers, various percussion items,
> and female vocals to make our music.  we're looking for zine reviews,
> radio show play, small label release of our music, and/or personal
> feedback and reaction.  if you'd like a copy of our cassette, please
> email us with your address and we'll send one out to you.
>  >>
>Sure.
>
>My address:
>Aaron Race
>700 E. Washington Spc#114
>Colton, CA  92324
>
>

Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:38:48 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: cds-a-gogo


I decided to go ahead with "The Feeling Describes Itself" -- the
CD-ROM of more 4AD information than you could ever read in several
lifetimes.

I have contacted all managers of "unofficial" 4AD-related web sites I
could think of, but I'm sure I've missed many.  If you want to have
your site put on the cd, you must let me know well before Sunday,
which is when I'll burn the cd.  Joining up is easy -- just let me
know the URL of the top-level page, and I'll just point my Web-slurp
program at it and fetch it over to our machines.

So far, I've slurped four sites, and things seem to be working quite
ok.  I think we've reached the 300Mb mark now, which means that the CD
is half full (or half empty, depending on how you look at things).

So if you have a site you want included, or know of someone who might
want to do that, please act fast.  (Perhaps I should have gotten in
touch with "official" web site maintainers, but I thought that perhaps
they wouldn't want to join up.  If I'm wrong and you're one of those
people -- drop me a note.)

Uhm...  Here is the form letter I mailed to the site maintainers:

[This is a form letter sent out to many people who maintain
4AD-related Web sites.]

Hi!  You may not know me, but I'm the maintainer of eyesore, the 4AD
database ().

An idea occurred to me yesterday, while I was thinking about backing
up the collection of 4AD sleeve scans onto cd for safekeeping.  I
down on the cd as well.  That way I could copy the cd and let other
people browse the database offline."  Now, the eyesore database
(including interviews, sleeve scans, PostScript versions in color and
b&w, etc, etc) takes about ~200Mb, I think.  That leaves nearly 400Mb
free.  If I'm going to the trouble of actually making a cd with all
this stuff, why not put even more stuff on the cd?

Which is what brings us to why I'm mailing you.  I'd like to include
your site on the cd as well.

Here's a few relevant issues:

going to hand the cd over to some cd copying firm I know who are
cheapish and competent.  If people want to buy the cd, they send money
to those people.  I'll try to get them to sell it as cheaply as
possible.  (It would probably be cheaper if I get X copies printed and
send them out myself, but I don't have the time or the stamina to deal
with all that.)

-- Windows, Mac, Unix, VMS, and so on.  I'll just create an ISO9660 cd
(which is the standard format), and people who want to read the cd
will just point their favourite Web browser to the cd.

How to contribute:  Just say "yes, I want to join" and I'll point a
Web slurper towards your site and slurp everything in sight onto my
machine.  If you have some special things you'd like to include on the
cd (for instance -- things that you considered too big to put on your
site), put it somewhere accessible and let me know where you put it.
I'll fetch it over.


will have to be soonish.  Say -- Sunday.  If you haven't gotten back
to me by Sunday, you can't have your stuff included on the cd.

If you have any questions, just drop me a note.


--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:22:01 -0500
From: Greg Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Shellyan Orphan

              97 01:35:19 pm

> >Just got Shellyan Orphan $@4 (Js Waking Up at a used cd store here in Austin,
> >Duvall Discs (Or records) on Guadalupe.
> >But anyway, the reason for this is that I loved Shellyan Orphan!
> >Since you fountains of wisdom know the right place to start, which SO cd
> >sould I pick? I loved all the tracks but in particular Burst, Dead cat and
> >Supernature on a Superhighway-
> >Pepe

> Oh, I would start with Helleboraine.  Probably the easiest to find.

Well, first of all, Helleborine was the hardest SO disc for me to find.  I
think Century Flower might be an easier find, and it has 'Shatter,' which
was the first SO song I ever heard.  And the third album, Humroot,
contains all of the songs that you listed as being your favorites from the
Waking Up sampler.  And, of course, Caroline Crawley's appearance on the
This Mortal Coil album Blood is notable.

-greg


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:43:21 -0500
From: mr bean jeans (woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry


also sprach Curtis Hall:

>What does Heidi Berry sound like?

quiet, mellow pop. perfect music for walking along leaf-covered paths in
forests at sunset during autumn.

woj

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:01:20 -0500
From: mr bean jeans (woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tsunami


also sprach Matthew t DeBellis:

>Tsunami
>is none other than Jenny Toomey's rock band, Jenny of former 4ad band
>Liqourice.

former? i think not. liquorice is playing brownie's in new york city on
february 19th. all indicators seem to point to the recording of a new
liquorice record (and a new tsunami record too, for that matter) later this
year.

woj

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:28:38 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry


>What does Heidi Berry sound like?

Buy "Love" and "Heidi Berry" and you tell me?
Heidy Berry is Heidi Berry...pure and simple,
although of late I don't think Miracle is her
as much as she used to be. Confused now?

Anybody else have comparisons? I've heard
these in comparison to her (some vague):

Natalie Merchant (the good 10,000 Maniacs stuff)
Nico
Joni Mitchell
Lori Carson
Kendra Smith

Steven

On Now: FSA "Further"

**************************************
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Dalmatian Design Communications
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Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601


"Listen pal, you can't waltz in here, use my toaster
and start spouting universal truths without qualification"
                               - Jude from Hal Hartley's "Surviving Desire"

"Would you leave the lights alone please.
Stop flashin' the f**kin' lights"
                               -Future Sound of London on "ISDN"

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:08:23 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: His Name Is Alive (part 4 of the warren interview)


star vein would like to announce that the star vein magazine has just
posted part four of the interview with warren defever. learn about hommus
and how lemon is the answer. the address is below...

**************************************************************************
**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
**************************************************************************
******* "sOmEtHiNgS iN tHe gLuE, ThE gLuE tHaT kEePs Us ToGeThEr" ********
************************ -WaRrEn DeFeVeR (hNiA) **************************
**************************************************************************

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:17:27 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: eyesore on cd?


I think Eitan has a first here, a message that:

1. Is a personal reply misdirected to the list
2. Quotes an entire 40-line message, adding two lines at the end
3. *AND* includes an unreadable MIME file!

We've never seen all three spazzes at once before. A stunning
achievement! ;-)

__________         _____________________         _______________________
Jens Alfke\        Wild-Eyed Java Zealot\        jens@apple.com    -work\
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com -play\

              Crow struggled, limply bedraggled his remnant
               He was his own leftover, the spat-out scrag
               He was what his brain could make nothing of    [Ted Hughes]
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/

Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:28:41 -0500
From: Robert Foster (smorin@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: 4ad(ish) cd sale


Hello all.

It is time I cleaned out my cd collection.  I have a tonne of them to get
rid of, but I will only post the ones I think are appropriate to this
list.  I've never sold anything over the net before so I'm not 'exactly'
sure how i'm going to do this.  what i mean is i don't want to end up
selling ltd. edition cds for $2.00 because that's the highest bid I
received.  I also don't really know what to set for a minimum.  I would
just like to see what happens and sell cds for a reasonable amount.  If
you don't like my format, please just ignore this post.

On to the cds:

4ad
---

Mojave (yes, without the 3) - Ask Me Tomorrow advance cd promo (full
album -  no artwork) - limited cd


lush - single girl ep - cd 1


lush - single girl ep - cd 2


... think i'm getting the hang of it promo (10 tracks) - limited cd


red house painters - ocean beach - cd


frank black - black sessions (live) - 4ad/France Inter co-release - all
black jewel case with white lettering - limited cd


throwing muses - counting backwards ep - cd


throwing muses - not too soon ep - cd


pale saints - fine friend ep - cd


scheer - infliction - cd


scheer - demon ep - limited Irish only cd


tarnation - there's someone - limited 4ad mail order 7" single


lonely is an eyesore compilation - vinyl lp (the regular issue)


4adish
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cocteau twins - otherness ep - cd (canadian issue - plastic jewel case)


lovesliescrushing - bloweyelashwish - cd


hector zazou - chansons des mers froides (songs of the cold seas) - French
limited edition cd (with cardboard packaging and 12 beautiful art cards)


flying saucer attack - further - cd


flying saucer attack - chorus - vinyl lp


jesus and mary chain - i hate rock'n'roll - promo only 1 track cd


catherine wheel - waydown ep - 5 track cd


ride - going blank again - cd


david sylvian - brilliant trees - cd


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I will only post this message the one time so as not to be annoying.
Please please please address any responses to this message to me
personally and NOT the list.

I will accept payments in Canadian or US funds.  We can talk about the
form of payment if necessary.  As I said, I've never done this before.

Send any replies to smorin@uoguelph.ca

cheers,

Robert Foster
Guelph, ON, CANADA


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:55:42 -0600
From: Ernesto (neitzl@www.teqcorp.com.mx)
Subject: Gus Gus


Well
  I just saw the video by gus gus called, polyesterday. I must say i did
enjoy the music a lot, the video, well......  I guess its too cool for me
to really enjoy.  Tho, i would love to get some of their music, obviously,
they have a new record/cd out since, on the titles, Polyesterday was also
the title of the said cd.  Its the first time ive heard them, having spent
most of winter looking for something in chicago bythem.  I cant believe no
one had something.  Nor In toronto!  What must i do? Go to Iceland??
   Well, i was just wondering if someone else had seen it...if not,
well....that's too bad.
  Be good.


Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:43:53 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: plying privately/700/new throwing muses


>folks, I hate to be the one to have to bring this up...but with stuff like
>this, please reply privately....there really is no reason why the entire
>list should have to read about your desire to acquire creeping jenny's tape.
>and from the way they wrote the message, it doesnt even sound like they are
>subscribers to the list, so they won't get your addresses anyway!

Some of us (me in particular) just plain GOOFED. I had the 'reply-to'
address copied, but forgot to 'paste' it in...it wasn't until I found out
via the automatic receipt from the list that my mail went to 700 (gasp!)
subscribers...

In an unrelated subject, has anyone heard the new Throwing Muses track on
the new Volume CD (no.17) and would like to comment on it?

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