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Subject: Re: Where is that site?
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:42:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Cindytalk questions.
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:58:26 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: hnia winter tour dates
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:10:55 -0500
From: "Mr. v100" (Velour100@AOL.COM)
Subject: put on your red shoes, dance the blues, wake me up. you go-go.
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:38:15 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:21:55 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia winter tour dates
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:23:51 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: king of sweet
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:16:08 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:25:48 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: questions???
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:47:27 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: wang chung bashing (plus...a few CDs for sale)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:43:34 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:52:50 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:30:05 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: questions???
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:36:52 -0500
From: Gravity Boy (keith@DGVIS.ER.USGS.GOV)
Subject: Re: questions???
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:25:15 -0500
From: Greg Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cindytalk questions.
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:27:20 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Someone mentioned the Drop Caps earlier..
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:11:19 -0600
From: eros (eros@LARRY.SPACESTAR.NET)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:35:15 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: the beginning of yet another low thread
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:23:21 -0500
From: Aaron Chavez (Elysium128@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: questions???/Pastels song????
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:59:54 EST
From: Matt T DeBellis (matty13@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia winter tour dates
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:48:01 -0500
From: Famous Goodbye King (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Re: velour 100
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:17:50 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: the beginning of yet another low thread
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:17:38 -0500
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Albino Alligator
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:00:27 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:00:31 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@LHP.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: Re: questions???
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:20:03 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:23:24 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent (des3@DANA.UCC.NAU.EDU)
Subject: nice for a change
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:36:12 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent (des3@DANA.UCC.NAU.EDU)
Subject: Re: wang chung bashing (was: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance..).
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:52:59 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:42:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?


>What's taking the RECORD COMPANY so long to put their site out?  Aren't they
>making enough money, with all those special editions and double singles?

They are too busy promoting Gus Gus.

Frank

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Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:58:26 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Cindytalk questions.

              from "Jose Enrique Plata Manjarres" at Jan 30, 97 09:34:35 am

 Jose Enrique Plata Manjarres 
 wrote on Thu, 30 Jan 1997
 (Subject: Cindytalk questions.)
 > Well, I am the 21 year old Colombian student who has been trying to
 > suscribe to this mailing list.  I have a copy of Cindytalk's
 > "Wappinschaw" and I noticed there is list of several people, and
 > there some of these ones that I don't know who they are.  Please
 > e-mail me at this address : j-plata@uniandes.edu.co
 >
 > So, this is the list. Who is and what have they done so particular to be
 > included in this shiva-manifesto:
 > - Ulrike Meinhof
 German leftwing terrorist from the seventies (Luke Haines's band
 Baader Meinhof is named after her and Andreas Baader, Baader managed
 to shoot himself in the head in very suspicious circumstances in
 prison, Meinhof is I think now living in this country).

 > - Wolfe Tone
 Irish Protestant Nationalist (not a very common combination).

 > - Hugh MacDiarmid
 Scottish Communist poet.

 > - Stuart Christie
 ?
 > - Ho Chi Minh
 Come on!

 > - John MacLean
 ?
 > Also, in the respect to list, they include the following people:
 > - Pascale Ogier
 ?
 > - Kathy Acker
 American poet/writer/feminist, recently wrote an article in the
 Guardian about how faith healing and dietary treatment saved her from
 breast cancer (or so she says).

 > - Dick Gaughan
 Scottish leftwing folk singer (I believe he's a contributor to some of
 the usenet folk and Scottish culture groups from time to time).

 > - Louise Brooks
 US film star with great haircut.

 > - Mary Margaret O'hara
 Irish singer.

 > - Robert Burns
 Scottish icon, in real life he was a womanising drunk and rather
 further to the left than many of his current fans would like.

 > - Ken Mcmullen
 ?
 > - Sade Abe
 ?
 This isn't Sade the singer, is it?  Her surname is Adu I think.

 > - Bill Douglas
 ?
 > - Basho
 Great Japanese Buddhist poet.

 > - John Pilger
 Leftwing Australian journalist.

 > - Hamish Mender4son
 > - Jeannie Robertson
 > - The Jaguar Smile
 ? to all 3

 > - Ewan Maccoll
 Kirsty's Dad, Scottish leftwing folk singer.

 > - Alasdair Gray
 Fantastic Scottish nationalist author - try "Lanark" or "Poor
 Creatures".

 > - Macbeth Mac Findlaech
 ?

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:10:55 -0500
From: "Mr. v100" (Velour100@AOL.COM)
Subject: hnia winter tour dates


there will be plenty of in-store appearances and college radio spots as well
as the shows listed below.  feel free to e-mail with any questions!

His Name Is Alive
Winter 1997 tour

Sun Feb 9- Los Angeles, CA... Sucker
Mon Feb 10- Los Angeles, CA...The Viper Room (tenative)
Tue Feb 11- Santa Monica, CA... Alligator Lounge
Wed Feb 12- San Luis Obispo, CA... Linnea's
Thu Feb 13- San Francisco, CA... Popscene
Fri Feb 14- Berkeley, CA... Mod Lang (in store)
Sat Feb 15- Sacramento, CA... Melarkey's
Sun Feb 16- San Francisco, CA... Kilowatt
Mon Feb 17- Eugene, OR... John Henry's
Tue Feb 18- Seattle, WA... Tractor Tavern
Wed Feb 19- Vancouver, BC... The Starfish Room
Fri Feb 21- Victoria, BC... Vertigo, U of V
Sat Feb 22- Seattle, WA... Anomalous Records
Sun Feb 23- Portland, OR... La Luna (Balcony)
Wed Feb 26- Minneapolis, MN... Fine Line
Thu Feb 27- Madison, WI... (to be announced)
Fri Feb 28- Chicago, IL... Double Door
Fri Mar 7- Detroit, MI... Alvin's
p.s.-look for a new promotional single with unreleased tracks by hnia as well
as the new velour100 e.p. which should officially be released feb 25
bye now!
trey

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:38:15 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: put on your red shoes, dance the blues, wake me up. you go-go.


> Ignore my ranting. My blood sugar is low, time for lunch. I'll just go
>  and hum something by Wham! or Kajagoogoo while I microwave my risotto...

Who ya gonna call - by jason bryant

-----------------------------------------------------------

In a big country. . .dreams stay with you.

however, video killed the radio.  star?

and pleaded, do you really?   *want* to hurt me.

the thing is wild boys.  never get their way.

aintnevergonnabreakamystride.  nobodygonnaslowmedown.

oh, no.  I've GOT to keep on moving.

because.  we built.  we built this city.

chaka! khan! (repeat) (ad nauseum)

who are you, fah, fah, fah, fah, fah, fah, fah, fah, fah fooolin'.

I see them floating 99 uber das den luftballoons.

say, say, say.  What you want?

ohhhhhh.

RELAX.

don't do it.

girls.  they just wanna have, fun.

dayyyyyyy-o.  everybody wang chung tonight.

jason


srilank@aol.com


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:21:55 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?


In a message dated 97-01-31 01:55:46 EST, you write:

<< hey are too busy promoting Gus Gus. >>

The site is up.  It is at

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:23:51 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia winter tour dates


In a message dated 97-01-31 02:41:16 EST, you write:

<< look for a new promotional single with unreleased tracks by hnia  >>
Is it going to be only promo?  I hope it is coming out for sale too.

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:16:08 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: king of sweet


i have found a brand new copy of king of sweet. i already have two copies,
but i bought it for someone on the list. please email me back privately
with an offer and i will respond. also i still have embroidered "all
virgos are mad" tshirts available. please do not respond to the list. too
many people have been doing that lately and it bugs the hell out of me...

**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
**************************************************************************
"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:25:48 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?


>The site is up.  It is at

What?? I thought 'The URL will remain; http://www.4AD.com/'... I've been
checking that one for about 30 times now... What's it doing on the Warner
Bros server? Will it stay there or is it just a test-site?

Anyway, they've deleted the BIG image files and added some more info,
JAVA-stuff and automatic Real Audio downloads, about 80% is still 'under
construction'. The HNIA part looks very nice, if all of the artists will
get pages like those it's going to be a great site. But they still sould
add a complete catalogue (every record/promo ever released on 4AD) and
on-line ordering service...


Thumbs up,


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, January 31, 1997
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:47:27 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: questions???


i know that i have heard some of the answers, but here goes some
questions...

what has happened to the Sundays?

does anyone know of a song that has a chorus with the words... "waiting
for mary" in it. i have this old compilation tape that i found from about
1990 or 1991. i can't place the song. it can't be to obscure... i wasn't
into obscure that obscure music at that time. pixies, replacements,
bauhaus, peter murphy type stuff. the song was recorded around the same
time the Pixies released doolitle. the male voice is deep and the chorus
is more talked than sung. it almost sounds like a zombie.

does anyone want to part with these cds

 "and dog bones, too" compilation?

 "lilliput" compilation?

 "mai pen rai" compilation?

 "13 year itch" compilation video or compact disc?

 does anyone know a "jeffrey with one 'f' jeffrey?"

**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
**************************************************************************
"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:43:34 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: wang chung bashing (plus...a few CDs for sale)


---from Jens Alfke:

> Tom Weibrecht replied:
> > um...u ever listen to "to live and die in l.a."?
>
> I have, unfortunately. Your point being...?
>
> [It still amazes me how the most pathetic crap will, after
> spending some well deserved time in the junk heap, start
> to come back in style...

Well, this statement is rather insulting.  It would be one thing if Tom
hated Wang Chung when the "To Live and Die in L.A." soundtrack was
released, and now there was some big Wang Chung revival that we were
buying into.  But the album is indeed pretty terrific, and I even liked
most of the stuff on its predecessor (_Points_on_the_Curve), too.  Ah,
9th grade...

> And now the apologists for lame 80s nth-generation
> derivative nu-wave pop music come out of the woodwork.
> C'mon, 4AD was great in those days because it was an
> _alternative_ to that kind of cheez-wizz.

Hmmmmm...I always thought of it being an alternative to all the
hairsprayed and made-up ("but we're not faggots!") faux-metal bands of
the time.  ;G)  I mean, come on, sure, Wang Chung aren't *that* great,
but remember Poison, Warrant, et al?

> I'll just go and hum something by Wham! or Kajagoogoo
> while I microwave my risotto...

Grrrrrrrrrr...anyway, I'll hold my defense of Kajagoogoo for now, and
tell you all about some CDs I'd like to purge from my collection.

In no particular order...
     BJORK  "Army of Me" +3  (One Little Indian UK)
     SETI  _Pharos_  (2xCD, Instinct Ambient US)
     THE DAMBUILDERS  _Encendedor_  (Eastwest US)
     RICHARD H KIRK  _Virtual_State_  (WaxTrax!/TVT US)
     PRAM  _Sargasso_Sea_  (Too Pure US)
     AFX  _Analogue_Bubblebath_4_  (Rephlex UK)

Make me an offer, sale or trade.  I'm dying for (CD) copies of Swallow's
"Hush" EP on Rough Trade, an original SST copy of Sonic Youth's _Evol_,
and one of the copies of EBTG's _Amplified_Heart_ that *doesn't* have the
bonus remixes (not that I'm anal retentive or anything).  Something by
the Jean-Paul Sartre Experience would also be nice...all I have is
_Bleeding_Star_ and I want more!

Damn, still no true 4AD content.  I just can't do it.

---Jeremy 

"...well, you know, half-ass beautiful..."

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:52:50 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Where is that site?


> The site is up.  It is at
> http://www.wbr.com/4ad/

And may I suggest setting your browser's font to 'Bodoni' (if you have
it) for the best v23 experience whilst viewing the Site...

t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
     http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
{ catalogue number 30/version 13 }


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:30:05 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD


The new, low-priced 19-track 'Teenbeat 1997 Sampler' (TEENBEAT 221), much
better than last years hit&miss sampler CD, contains a weird Mark Robinson
remix of Air Miami's 'Dolphin Expressway'. Sounds like New Order's
'Ceremony', with a guitar 'solo' by Guy Fixen!
Other great tracks by Versus, Phil Krauth, Containe ("I want to fuck you
like you've never been before" Well, okay, if you insist), Tel Aviv,
Tuscadero, K-Stars, Cath Carroll and True Love Always and some bits from the
archives, including Synthetic Socks (now: Ween) and William & Vivian (Mark
Robinson & Andrew Beaujon).

Anyone picked up Andrew's new 7"s on Neptune & Happy Go Luck? Why did he put
the best tracks on the B-side?

Frank

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Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:36:52 -0500
From: Gravity Boy (keith@DGVIS.ER.USGS.GOV)
Subject: Re: questions???

              from "James M. Renaud" at Jan 31, 97 03:47:27 am

> does anyone know of a song that has a chorus with the words... "waiting
> for mary" in it. i have this old compilation tape that i found from about
> 1990 or 1991. i can't place the song. it can't be to obscure... i wasn't
> into obscure that obscure music at that time. pixies, replacements,
> bauhaus, peter murphy type stuff. the song was recorded around the same
> time the Pixies released doolitle. the male voice is deep and the chorus
> is more talked than sung. it almost sounds like a zombie.

could this be Pere Ubu's "Waiting for Mary"?

Keith

               +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                Keith Richmond      keith@dgvis.er.usgs.GOV
                     US Geological Survey, Reston, VA
                web page - http://dgvis.er.usgs.GOV/~keith/
               +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:25:15 -0500
From: Greg Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: questions???

              from "James M. Renaud" at Jan 31, 97 03:47:27 am

> i know that i have heard some of the answers, but here goes some
> questions...
>
> what has happened to the Sundays?

They have recorded a new album, tentatively called "Billie's Songs" -
Billy being the name of Harriet's newborn daughter.  I haven't heard
anything too specific about a release date, other than the first half of
1997...

-greg
 gt7003b@prism.gatech.edu

"the pontiff has no fever"


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:27:20 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Cindytalk questions.


On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:58:26 +0000 Andrew Norman 

> > - Ulrike Meinhof
> German leftwing terrorist from the seventies (Luke Haines's band
> Baader Meinhof is named after her and Andreas Baader, Baader managed
> to shoot himself in the head in very suspicious circumstances in
> prison, Meinhof is I think now living in this country).
>
>
who said the seventies were lame?

tom w


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:11:19 -0600
From: eros (eros@LARRY.SPACESTAR.NET)
Subject: Someone mentioned the Drop Caps earlier..


I was just wondering if the person who mentioned the drop caps b/4 would
happen to now any more info on them.  Please reply to me in private.
Thank you much
-Eric

*********************************************************
-Eric Johnson-
*********************************************************


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:35:15 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD


how much is the sampler selling for???  any news of a new Air Miami EP or
LP????


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:23:21 -0500
From: Aaron Chavez (Elysium128@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: the beginning of yet another low thread


In a message dated 97-01-30 17:55:47 EST, it is written:

<< ---something I almost missed:

>> after the low show last night (definitely go see them...
>> amazing.  they were dropped by caroline(idiots) in the
>> u.s. a couple of days ago along with just about everyone
>> except versus)

>Ummmmm...anyone got any *specific* details on this?
  >>

Yeah, please this maybe nooze.

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:59:54 EST
From: Matt T DeBellis (matty13@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: questions???/Pastels song????


Speaking of un-titled mixes, i have a mix from around 1994 (or whenever
Laika's "Antenna" came out), and their is a song right after the Laika
song on my tape that i've never been able to figure out.  It's kind of
MBV sounding...lots of guitars....some feedback.....I have a suspicion it
might be the Pastels?  Any Pastels fans out there?  The song starts out
with like a short bass intro, than drums enter, then feedback.  The
lyrics go something like: "This train's uncertain, look what i have done.
 But i'm not ashamed to say that i don't mind."  the lyrics are pretty
much unitelligible.  The chorus goes "I don't wanna be told that i'm
fool, i just wanna be alone and i know".  Anyone know?  I'd give out a
mofo reward to know what song it is.  thanks for listening...


matt


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:48:01 -0500
From: Famous Goodbye King (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Re: hnia winter tour dates

              "Velour100@aol.com" at Jan 31, 97 02:10:55 am

YAY!

> Thu Feb 13- San Francisco, CA... Popscene
> Fri Feb 14- Berkeley, CA... Mod Lang (in store)
> Sat Feb 15- Sacramento, CA... Melarkey's
> Sun Feb 16- San Francisco, CA... Kilowatt

you could have just reached in my pocket and taken my wallet.
i saw hnia in mod lang (i didn't make the kilowatt show) this fall
it was pretty damn cool.

well, i'm psyched
woohoo

reid


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:17:50 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: velour 100


ok...I'll write a little longer review, and point out a website with a
better review.

trey plays much more than just drums in v100...he plays everything, and just
a little to well (am I turning green yet?).

fall sounds is a really great record, definitely worth your $12, even if you
have to go someone that's not your 'standard' record store to purchase it.

check out the review at www.snackcake.com...in issue 1.4.

rick


>> could someone please post a mini-review of velour 100, along with the
>> relationship to his name is alive
>>
>> much appreciated
>>
>>         christian
>>
>
>here's my mini mini review (i have faith that someone will post a longer
>one...  on this list it never fails),...
>great great female vocals in a 4ad manner meet melodic indie rock..
>trey many, the drummer from his name is alive, is also the drummer for velour
>100..
>if you get the chance to pick up fall sounds, do not pass it up.
>its on heavy rotation in my cd player.
>
>-=robn
>(aleppo@eden.rutgers.edu)
>
>

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:17:38 -0500
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: the beginning of yet another low thread

              another low thread" (Jan 31,  3:23pm)

i was the person that posted to the list about low being dropped
from caroline.  here's what i know: i was trying to get on the guest
list for the show because i really don't like the swans and didn't
feel like paying to see them... i would rather give low the entire
ticket price.  anyway, my contact a caroline called and left a message
basically saying that she could not get in touch with the band because
they had just been dropped by the label.  this was on monday, and she
said that she had just found out about it, and didn't know any reasons.
evidently they dropped just about everyone except versus.  after the
show while getting a beer, alan sparhawk was standing beside me and i
mentioned to him how i thought the show was amazing and asked him about
the caroline situation.  he said he wasn't clear about the details, and
he seemed a little bitter... but not much.  he didn't seemed to be that
worried about getting picked up by another label, and i told him i didn't
think he had anything to worry about(i'm sure that consoled him :D).  i only
talked with him for a couple of minutes because i hate doing that type of
thing.  hopefully this helps explain some of the mess i started.

one quick thing... i just finished doing an auction that i had been
planning/putting off for almost a year and forgot about two things i
wanted to sell until i saw two posts today.  i'll have to check and
make sure they weren't stolen cause i don't know how i missed them
a couple of weeks ago, but i have a copy of the rough trade swallow
ep(is "hush" the title???  all i remember is it has a blurry picture
of a cherry(?) on the cover) and a copy of "...and dog bones too"
that i want to sacrifice for my new guitar fund.  make me an offer.

bye-bye see you later on,
alan


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:00:27 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@interlog.com)
Subject: Albino Alligator


albino alligator:

used in billiards to sacrifice a ball to block your opponent's shot,
thereby ensuring your own win...


every once in a while a white alligator is born, an albino alligator.
this oddball reptile is sacrificed by its peers for the collective good.

A day off for me today (Jan. 31st) but still, my roommate woke me up at
Wars" at the York theatre.  After enjoying this new model version of the
film, I travelled down to the Carlton theatre and took in the 1:40 pm
showing of "Albino Alligator".  It was a surprisingly well attended
matinee showing, at least 90% full!  Since I'm a big fan of Kevin Spacey
I was going to see this movie regardless but the added bonus of an
all-4AD soundtrack was icing on the cake.  The music created by Michael
Brook was highly effective in this movie.  The range of styles Brook
uses are quite varied.  Since the film takes place in New Orleans, the
Brook instrumentals have a slight cajun feel to them.  At times, the
music is very This Mortal Coil-ish and atmospheric.  At other times, his
intense purcussion pieces remind me of an uptempo "Cobalt Blue" style.
There's even a shade of a "Going South" like counrty flare mixed into
one track.  A lot of it is rather overall "Heat"-esque and fits the mood
of the movie's story well.  There's nifty sax textures used within some
of the songs that brings to mind a "Filigree & Shadow" era TMC.  I'm
looking forward to the official 4AD soundtrack to this movie very much.
I only wish 4AD could release Brook's soundtrack to "Fires Of Kuwait" as
well.  The movie poster for "Albino Alligator" is nice and I wonder if
it was done by v23.  Will the soundtrack sport the movie poster image or
will v23 do up something else for it?  We'll know later on in February.
The movie itself, while not a 100% success, was fun to watch and
features a number of cool actors like Faye Dunaway, Matt Dillon, Gary
Sinese and "Heat" vet William Fichtner (the guy De Niro and his team
steal all the bonds from)...  Viggo Mortenson (Exene from X's ex) plays
the funniest character - a Montrealer named Guy who ends up being the
most mysterious guy shacked up in the basement bar Dillon and his team
wander into.  Kevin Spacey was restrained on his first directorial
outing but will improve as he gets more experience in the director's
chair.  The soundtrack is top notch work from Brook without question.
Nifty stuff, indeed!

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| Jeff Keibel           |
| Scarborough, ON       |
| CANADA                |
| redshift@interlog.com |
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:00:31 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@LHP.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador


Talking about Tarnation, when its the release date for the cd single.
Have someone heard it, which are the tracks listings.

Also what about the Scheer ep, demon, i think. Its suppouse to be
release about this days.

Well, i am from Mexico and i like very much almost everything on 4ad.
I have a radio program with a couple of friends named GALAXIE 500, an
we used to play this kind of stuff, and many of the music that is
discussed on this list. We want to do a special program featuring
just 4ad songs of eps or singles and i need some help. Please mail me
some suggestions about which are the best eps or singles, and which
are the best songs on its.

Thank you.


JORGE HUMBERTO PEREZ G.
GUADALAJARA, JALISCO, MEXICO

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:20:03 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: questions???


> > does anyone know of a song that has a chorus with the words... "waiting
> > for mary" in it. i have this old compilation tape that i found from about
> > 1990 or 1991. i can't place the song. it can't be to obscure... i wasn't
> > into obscure that obscure music at that time. pixies, replacements,
> > bauhaus, peter murphy type stuff. the song was recorded around the same
> > time the Pixies released doolitle. the male voice is deep and the chorus
> > is more talked than sung. it almost sounds like a zombie.
>
> could this be Pere Ubu's "Waiting for Mary"?
>
> Keith

thank you so freakin much... that's it. i have been trying to think of who
did that damn song. keith, you are a god!!!
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:23:24 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent (des3@DANA.UCC.NAU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/New Teenbeat Sampler CD


i hope this isn't one of those limited to 100 copies editions that, while
cheap, are impossible to find. i have the first wakefield sampler which,
may i say, is quite brilliant, but have never even seen it in a store. i
must get this new one.

speaking of containe, (fontaine toups from versus and ?????) does anyone
have their album that they'd like to sell or trade?

dave
des3@dana.ucc.nau.edu

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:36:12 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent (des3@DANA.UCC.NAU.EDU)
Subject: nice for a change


instead of adding to the barrage of stuff for sale, i'm going to list a
ocuple of things that i would like to buy or trade:

1-area "between purple and pink" i'll trade their other three albums for
this ONE album
2-containe      cant remember the name of the album
3-all virgos are mad video

and, most importantly and desperately needed by me:

4- the soundtrack for "married to the mob". i have the record and tape,
but they're not going to last forever. i so achingly want this on cd.

"please help me, obi wan, you're my only hope!"
dave
respond privately of course
des3@dana.ucc.nau.edu


Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:52:59 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: wang chung bashing (was: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance..).


On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:19:25 -0800 Jens Alfke 
>Marie wrote:
>>> i say equally horrible... as, wang chung, which was my guess.
>
>Tom Weibrecht replied:
>>um...u ever listen to "to live and die in l.a."?
>
>I have, unfortunately. Your point being...?
>
>[It still amazes me how the most pathetic crap will, after spending
>some
>well deserved time in the junk heap, start to come back in style. (The
>Church Of the SubGenius calls this phenomenon "bulldada".) Like all
>the
>1970s nostalgia, the bell bottoms and Adidas shirts and center-part
>hairdos being worn by teenage fashion victims who never had the horror
>of
>living through the actual 1970s. And now the apologists for lame 80s
>nth-generation derivative nu-wave pop music come out of the woodwork.
>C'mon, 4AD was great in those days because it was an _alternative_ to
>that kind of cheez-wizz. If you hate Alannis Morisette or the Macarena
>now, I guarantee you would have hated all these bands back then.]
>
>Ignore my ranting. My blood sugar is low, time for lunch. I'll just go
>and hum something by Wham! or Kajagoogoo while I microwave my
>risotto...
>
...my point being that I, in my very humble opinion, believe that "to live and d
e in l.a." is a decent album, then as well as now...im glad u listened to it, an
 i respect your opinion that you believe it is crap...end
of argument...but, to assert  that "pathetic crap" is starting "to come
back in style" begs the question of who decides what is "style"? you?
who gives a damn what, or when, people listen to what they do? did you live thro
gh the 70s? what were so bad about them? alot of what i hear
2day (and ill limit my comments to music) owe ALOT to the 70s, and the 80s for t
at matter...music is about evolution, not spontaneous
combustion...and 4ad was, imo, not an "alternative" to that  "cheez wizz"...it w
s just as much a part of that historical era... and you cant
believe that there wasnt some cross-pollination going on...or did 4ad
exist in a vacuum? ...convince me that there is no influence from any
60s, 70s, or 80s artists in any 4ad artist's output...the fact that i
could mix colourbox and wang chung  made my music listening
enjoyable...then, as well as now...and what in gods name does fashion
have to do with music?

tom w



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