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Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:30:03 +-200
From: Aaron Hill[SMTP:Fan4AD@AOL.COM]
Subject: Gus Gus in Reykjavik
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:34:30 +-200
From: Dez[SMTP:100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM]
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:13:52 -0500
From: ROXCEE@AOL.COM
Subject: Buddha On The Moon 7" on Wurlitzer Jukebox
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:57:23 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: GUS1/GUS2
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:49:34 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: GUS GUS Tip for '97!!
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:46:17 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:28:33 -0500
From: Aaron Chavez (Elysium128@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:19:14 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:35:58 -0500
From: court and spark (jna@RETINA.NET)
Subject: Tarnation
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:07:32 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit[SMTP:eitan@netvision.net.il]
Subject: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:07:51 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit[SMTP:eitan@netvision.net.il]
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:58:00 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Echo and the Bunnymen/Roches/St. Etienne/MBM
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:39:09 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: FW: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:16:18 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast...
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:37:33 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: thislisty auction
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:11:13 -0500
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Echo and the Bunnymen/Roches/St. Etienne/MBM
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:55 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Buddha On The Moon 7" on Wurlitzer Jukebox
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:53:36 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:30:03 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador


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From: Aaron Hill[SMTP:Fan4AD@AOL.COM]
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador


In a message dated 97-01-27 14:04:40 EST, you write:

<< This is taken from 4ad's promo pages. I've  >>
Where can one get this?  I am so excited about the album.



The album will be released in the UK in April. One will have to wait =
until then.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:34:30 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus in Reykjavik


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From: Dez[SMTP:100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM]
Subject: Gus Gus in Reykjavik


        I just wondered if anyone else on this list is going this Friday =
to see
Gus Gus in Reykjavik. If so, and you want to meet up, drop me a line

- Dez



I can't make it to the Reykjavik gig, but if someone's going to the =
London gig, it will quite cool. as far as I know, they haven't decided =
on the venue and the date, but it should be around the end of February.
Eitan.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:13:52 -0500
From: ROXCEE@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...


Hey does anyone remember a silly new wave song from the
early 80's where the lyrics were "You know the dead can dance, the
dead can dance, you know the dead the dead the dead can dance".
I just remember a cheesy synth and some guy with a Dead Milkmen
singing voice doing it with another guy singing in the background.
Somebody please put me out of my misery and tell me who did this one.


PLEASE someone tell me i'm wrong to say it was "Wang Chung" that did that
one...  i cannot bear to think there was a reference to that group on this
list, and worse yet, that i made it!

Marie


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:57:23 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Buddha On The Moon 7" on Wurlitzer Jukebox


Got the new Buddha On The Moon 'Crepe Paper Airplane'/'Glider' 7" on
Wurlitzer Jukebox (WJ 21) in the mail yesterday, "fresh from being bagged".
2 great tunes, edited and remixed by HNIA's Warren Defever. Need I say more?

Frank

Question to hk: why do both tracks have a 2nd title ('My Favorite Cut Out
Doll'/'Like A Sickness From Within')?????


+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:49:34 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: GUS1/GUS2


Although I'm not a Gus Gus devotee at all, I feel obliged, as a 4AD diehard,
to pass on this information from 4AD Mailorder:
There are 150 sets of GUS1/GUS2 promo 12"s for sale (NOT available
separately!) at GBP 6,-. Postage for UK = GBP 2,-/ Europe GBP 3,-/
USA&Canada GBP 4,50/ Rest of the World GBP 5,50.

(I bet Ivo and co. will pay their transfer to the Gus Gus Iceland gig from
the money they make on these promo's)

Frank

+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:46:17 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: GUS GUS Tip for '97!!


Gus Gus Press 1997:

I-D - piece in tips for '97 feature.
NME - tips for '97.
Melody Maker - tips for '97.
Vox - page photo in tips for '97 feature.
Blah Blah Blah - interview & photo.

Arena - feature.
NME - 'Vibes' feature.
Melody Maker - 'Maker Shaker' & 'Orbit' feature.
Music Week - profile.
Vox - 'finder' piece.
Time Out - gig preview & 'Hot Shots' piece.
Big Issue - feature.
Blah Blah Blah - feature on gig in New York.
G-Spot - feature.
GQ - feature.
Single & live reviews across the board.

Muzik - feature.
Elle - mini feature.
The Wire - feature.
Select - live review or piece.
Esquire - feature.
Wax - feature.
Sunday Times - feature.
Album reviews across the board.

Q - 'New To Q' piece.
More features to be confirmed.

BBC Radio:
Radio 1 initial support from Tong/Rampling, 6 weeks upfront.
Tip for '97 play from Radio 1 Evening Sessions.
radio 1 support from Jo Whiley/mary Ann-Hobbs.
Going to playlist 2 weeks upfront.

Videotec - showing videos as tip for '97.
MTV, initial plays on Alternate nation, Party Zone & Chill Out Zone, then on
rotation.
MTV news crew to Iceland for Reykjavik gig.
Chart Show - week before release.



"It's all strategy, it's all planned"
(Anthony H. Wilson, Factory chairman, 1984)

Yep, a band that has put out ONE single thus far. 4AD have decided to play
the game! Let's hope they survive and the other acts don't suffer. Factory
and their bands by the way didn't survive, when the label started "to cheat".

Frank

+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:28:33 -0500
From: Aaron Chavez (Elysium128@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation's Mirador


More mangled MIME...what's the deal?  (Check the sent T/D stamp)


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:19:14 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...


I think you're thinking of "The Safety Dance" (at least I think that's what
it was called), by Men Without Hats.  And I don't think he was singing "the
dead can dance...", but rather "the safety dance".  Something like that...I
hate the song myself.

Mike
iceblink@tiac.net


At 02:13 AM 1/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey does anyone remember a silly new wave song from the
>early 80's where the lyrics were "You know the dead can dance, the
>dead can dance, you know the dead the dead the dead can dance".
>I just remember a cheesy synth and some guy with a Dead Milkmen
>singing voice doing it with another guy singing in the background.
>Somebody please put me out of my misery and tell me who did this one.
>
>
>PLEASE someone tell me i'm wrong to say it was "Wang Chung" that did that
>one...  i cannot bear to think there was a reference to that group on this
>list, and worse yet, that i made it!
>
>Marie
>
>


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:35:58 -0500
From: court and spark (jna@RETINA.NET)
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...


On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Michael Borum wrote:

> I think you're thinking of "The Safety Dance" (at least I think that's what
> it was called), by Men Without Hats.  And I don't think he was singing "the
> dead can dance...", but rather "the safety dance".  Something like that...I
> hate the song myself.
>
> At 02:13 AM 1/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hey does anyone remember a silly new wave song from the
> >early 80's where the lyrics were "You know the dead can dance, the
> >dead can dance, you know the dead the dead the dead can dance".
> >I just remember a cheesy synth and some guy with a Dead Milkmen
> >singing voice doing it with another guy singing in the background.
> >Somebody please put me out of my misery and tell me who did this one.

Yep, sounds like 'safety dance' to me.

I don't know where you came up with those lyrics though. Me thinks too
much 4ad on the brain ;)

-john


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:07:32 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: FW: Tarnation


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From: Eitan Shavit[SMTP:eitan@netvision.net.il]
Subject: Tarnation


I understand that the e-mail I sent with the subject "Tarnation's =
Mirador" has been unsuccessfuly delievered.
I have sent it again. Please advise if you got wrong again.
the original e-mail was written as any other, no attachements =
whatsoever.
I got it alright...
I apologize for the inconvenience.
Eitan.

eitan@netvision.net.il
bne1@netvision.net.il


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:07:51 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: FW: Tarnation's Mirador


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Subject: FW: Tarnation's Mirador




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From: Eitan Shavit[SMTP:eitan@netvision.net.il]
Subject: Tarnation's Mirador


As promised, here is some more information on Tarnation's new release =
(April '97) - Mirador. This is taken from 4ad's promo pages. I've picked =
the information concerning the music, but there's a lot more on those =
pages on the band's history and influences. there's a lot to read, and I =
apologize on the length of this.
"with the same line-up consolidating around former member Paula, the =
darkly-brooding laments are more intense, the spooked guitar twangs more =
haunting, the rhythmic backdrop tougher, and the strength and range of =
Frazer's exquisite voice captured with greater clarity. After Lincoln =
Allen, Michelle Cemuto and Matt Sullivan left the band to start another, =
Frazer was introduced to Oropeza and drummer Joe Byrnes, who's own trio =
Broken Horse gives the boys their own creative outlet, leaving Paula =
free to run the roost - the new album Mirador is solely her songs and =
vocals but ironically, Tarnation sounds much more like a group. The =
fourth member, Dublin bassist/multi-instrumentalist Jamie Meagan, is =
Paula's partner, who she met at work - her as an archeologist, he as a =
construction worker. In these hands, Tarnation dynamics have quadrupled =
- they're just as likely to rock out (as on "An Awful Shade Of Blue", =
"Your Thoughts And Mine", the album one cover version "Little Black =
Egg", and the first single from Mirador "There's Someone") as they are =
supping from the ballad-heavy well of loneliness. Even in her most =
lamenting form - "Christine", "Like A Ghost", "Wait" and "Idly", then =
they are songs that can soothe, not break, your own lonely heart.=20
Tarnation is slang for "hell", says Frazer. I chose the name because =
it's a comical and dark name at the same time. Sometimes there can be =
humour in sadness.
There are twelve sublime tracks in Mirador, but Tarnation have included =
two extra hidden tracks - one a haunting, soul-on-fire shanty, Paula's =
wordless whistling sands moan lulling you to put it out in a watery =
grave, and an extended sequel to "Gentle Creatures" - "The Well".  "

There's a lot more on Frazer's musical education and influences, but =
that's another time. As for my personal thoughts on this album (and I =
know you can't share this with me yet), it's haunting magic. something =
like The Bad Seeds without Nick Cave who gave up for Paula's songs. =
brilliant guitar work, and you all know Paula's voice, which became more =
powerful and clear. haven't seen the art work for the album yet, and I =
left the tracklisting at work, so ther's still more to come. again, =
sorry about the length of all this.

Eitan.

eitan@netvision.net.il
bne1@netvision.net.il


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:58:00 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: thedeadcandancethedeadcandance...


On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:13:52 -0500 ROXCEE@AOL.COM writes:
>Hey does anyone remember a silly new wave song from the
>early 80's where the lyrics were "You know the dead can dance, the
>dead can dance, you know the dead the dead the dead can dance".
>I just remember a cheesy synth and some guy with a Dead Milkmen
>singing voice doing it with another guy singing in the background.
>Somebody please put me out of my misery and tell me who did this one.
>
>
>PLEASE someone tell me i'm wrong to say it was "Wang Chung" that did
>that
>one...  i cannot bear to think there was a reference to that group on
>this
>list, and worse yet, that i made it!
>
>Marie
>
are u thinking of "dance-hall days" ? i dont believe the reference is in
there...i was gonna venture to guess men without hats....

tom w



Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:39:09 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Echo and the Bunnymen/Roches/St. Etienne/MBM


I went used Cd/record shopping and picked up some good stuff.  I bought
Meat Beat Manifesto's "99%"....can someone tell me how this album rates
to their others....i personally like it a lot.  Same with the St. Etienne
album ("Fox Base Alpha"), Echo ("Heaven Up Here")...speaking of the
bunnymen, their was also a used 12" EP for $1.50 which i didn't get.  It
was a live recording, and only had 4 songs.  Is this good, too?  Last but
not least, i picked up the first Roches record fro $1.00.  I was shocked
when listening to it that it reminded me a lot of Liqourice!!  At least
the song structores...not the vocals too much.  I always thought
Liqourice were semi-original, but after listening to this, i think it's
safe to say the Roches were a HUGE influence on Jenny and co.....

a penny for your thoughts....

Matt


p.s. - I'm in Raleigh and am looking for the Gus Gus EP but can't find it
ANYWHERE.  Anyone know of a good place in NC or a good mail order
place????  thanks again....


Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:16:18 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: FW: Tarnation's Mirador


Eitan wrote:

>There are twelve sublime tracks in Mirador, but Tarnation have included two
extra hidden tracks

Only on the CD and not on the vinyl I guess? Unless they are going to hide
them under the labels.

Frank
+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:37:33 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast...


...but can you rely on the label?
It says on the actual disc sleeve that it is a promo compilation for Latin
American countries...I have a suspicion that it's only just being released
about now, even though it has a date long past printed on it - which would
explain why we haven't heard about it yet.  I think Jens' site says something
about a release date of April on it, but I'm not sure.  Of course many of it
will be interested in it because it features the string version of Mojave 3's
"Mercy".
Mercy.
CJ


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:11:13 -0500
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: thislisty auction

          Fan4AD@aol.com, RogBoy@aol.com, "SEBASTIAN.MUNDT" 
          , o-o-o ,
          Chris Lundeen ,
          David Stack ,
          SCHNGRE@harpo.cns.iit.edu, angelgirl ,
          Matthew T DeBellis ,
          -miss c- ,
          kanga and lisa roo ,
          wbt60@earthlink.net, JRR TOLKIEN ,
          tweibrecht@juno.com, Daevad Il Forsla ,
          Jeremy L Orr , Reichert ,
          shar everett ,
          Matthew Hoffman 
              (fwd)" (Jan 16, 12:19pm)

hey guys,

sorry i haven't sent out the final update yet... i'll do it first
thing tomorrow mourning.  inbetween a work deadline, perpetual girl
problems, locking my keys in my house on the way to work, and drinking
just a wee bit too much after the low show last night(definitely go
see them... amazing.  they were dropped by caroline(idiots) in the u.s.
a couple of days ago along with just about everyone except versus),
i haven't had time to sit down and finish it.

sorry,
alan


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:55 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Echo and the Bunnymen/Roches/St. Etienne/MBM


>I went used Cd/record shopping and picked up some good stuff.  I bought
>Meat Beat Manifesto's "99%"....can someone tell me how this album rates
>to their others....i personally like it a lot.

"Storm The Studio" is the best one, I think. Four tracks, each of which
appears in four very different versions. Very funky, very loud, great use
of samples.

>Echo ("Heaven Up Here")...

"Crocodiles", the first one, sounds similar and is even better, more
energetic. After "Heaven Up Here" they gradually drowned in their own
retro-psychedelic pretensions, although "The Killing Moon" is still a
terrific song, esp. the 9-minute version.

__________         _____________________         _______________________
Jens Alfke\        Wild-Eyed Java Zealot\        jens@apple.com    -work\
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com -play\

               I know it is wet, and the sun is not sunny,
             but we can have lots of good fun that is funny!
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:53:36 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Buddha On The Moon 7" on Wurlitzer Jukebox


>Got the new Buddha On The Moon 'Crepe Paper Airplane'/'Glider' 7" on
>Wurlitzer Jukebox (WJ 21) in the mail yesterday, "fresh from being bagged".
>2 great tunes, edited and remixed by HNIA's Warren Defever. Need I say more?

Actually, yes! The emphasis here should be on the Buddah on the Moon part
and not on the "Touched by the hand of Warren.." part, for they stand on
their own quite nicely. Although Wrn's input *is* nice, indeed!  They are
heartfelt and plaintive and jest yummy. Perfect music for milquetoast
musique  - but not cloyingly sickningly ultra-twee-ly so.

check out mr. buddah's other offerings on farrago and a few other scattered
places, including something out of Ausitn, out soon, when mr. endee says so.

wink wink nude nudge, herrick!

best wishes,
rooina of the southern lisas.


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