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Subject: Re: DCD
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:23:57 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Tarnation's Mirador
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:45:32 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: DCD
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:17:42 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: low?
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:50:19 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ian McCullough
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:07:53 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: HNiA - King of Sweet
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:31:28 -0500
From: JRR TOLKIEN (GGNL44A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: You can rely on toast.
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:07:31 +0100
From: matthias walzner (artbooks@WWW-STUDIO.COM)
Subject: Re: low?
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:45:48 -0500
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@STUDENT.BERKLEE.EDU)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:37:03 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hector zazou/dcd
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:14:00 +0100
From: "SEBASTIAN.MUNDT" (Sebastian.Mundt@T-ONLINE.DE)
Subject: Belly "Star" Promo Digipak For Sale
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:37:52 +0500
From: Will Bryant (willb26@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: DCD/Ian McCullough
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:08:21 -0200
From: RODRIGO YOSHITOMO MUNEMASA ITO - NIB - 2225556 #010704#
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:14:07 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Ian McCullough
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:02:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Liquorice dates
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:42:25 -0500 (EST)
From: TsunamiSMR@aol.com
Subject: web list archive
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:10:30 -0000
From: His Name Is A List (livonia@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus in Reykjavik
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:53:34 +0100
From: Jon Kvebaek (jkv@A.SOL.NO)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:36:32 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: Was: GusGus in R'vik, Now: E-Mail Attachments...
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:50:36 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: low?
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:38:10 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: low?
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:15:17 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:23:57 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD


In a message dated 97-01-27 20:56:44 EST, you write:

<< Hmmm get their self-titled cd called Dead Can Dance, In the Realm of the
 Dying Sun
 and Aion then tell me if they ever put out any duds. >>

I suspect sarcasm.  But my favorite DCD album is In the Realm of the Dying
SUn.  I like everything they ever put out.  Their first album is not liked by
alot of people because they were just searching for a sound at that time.
 But, there are some great songs on it and the ep.  I would just wait till
you get everything else, then get it.


Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:45:32 +-200
From: Eitan Shavit (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Tarnation's Mirador


As promised, here is some more information on Tarnation's new release =
(April '97) - Mirador. This is taken from 4ad's promo pages. I've picked =
the information concerning the music, but there's a lot more on those =
pages on the band's history and influences. there's a lot to read, and I =
apologize on the length of this.
"with the same line-up consolidating around former member Paula, the =
darkly-brooding laments are more intense, the spooked guitar twangs more =
haunting, the rhythmic backdrop tougher, and the strength and range of =
Frazer's exquisite voice captured with greater clarity. After Lincoln =
Allen, Michelle Cemuto and Matt Sullivan left the band to start another, =
Frazer was introduced to Oropeza and drummer Joe Byrnes, who's own trio =
Broken Horse gives the boys their own creative outlet, leaving Paula =
free to run the roost - the new album Mirador is solely her songs and =
vocals but ironically, Tarnation sounds much more like a group. The =
fourth member, Dublin bassist/multi-instrumentalist Jamie Meagan, is =
Paula's partner, who she met at work - her as an archeologist, he as a =
construction worker. In these hands, Tarnation dynamics have quadrupled =
- they're just as likely to rock out (as on "An Awful Shade Of Blue", =
"Your Thoughts And Mine", the album one cover version "Little Black =
Egg", and the first single from Mirador "There's Someone") as they are =
supping from the ballad-heavy well of loneliness. Even in her most =
lamenting form - "Christine", "Like A Ghost", "Wait" and "Idly", then =
they are songs that can soothe, not break, your own lonely heart.=20
Tarnation is slang for "hell", says Frazer. I chose the name because =
it's a comical and dark name at the same time. Sometimes there can be =
humour in sadness.
There are twelve sublime tracks in Mirador, but Tarnation have included =
two extra hidden tracks - one a haunting, soul-on-fire shanty, Paula's =
wordless whistling sands moan lulling you to put it out in a watery =
grave, and an extended sequel to "Gentle Creatures" - "The Well".  "

There's a lot more on Frazer's musical education and influences, but =
that's another time. As for my personal thoughts on this album (and I =
know you can't share this with me yet), it's haunting magic. something =
like The Bad Seeds without Nick Cave who gave up for Paula's songs. =
brilliant guitar work, and you all know Paula's voice, which became more =
powerful and clear. haven't seen the art work for the album yet, and I =
left the tracklisting at work, so ther's still more to come. again, =
sorry about the length of all this.

Eitan.

eitan@netvision.net.il
bne1@netvision.net.il


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:17:42 EST
From: Matt DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD


I happen to think their self titled album is the best stuff they've done
to date.  That album and the one with "Echolalia" are good....i keep
forgetting the name of that one....


matt


Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:50:19 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: low?

              "Geoffrey Elgey" at Jan 28, 97 08:12:26 am

>
> G'day,
>
> With all the discussion about Low recently, I went out and bought their
> latest 'The Curtain Hits The Cast'. Not bad at all - even that 14 min Sonic
> Boom type tune.
>
> I was wondering if someone could tell me more about their earlier releases -
> are they as good as this one? Is the production crisp, or lo-fi? Or have I
> already got the best, and all the others will be a let down? etc
>
> Thanks,
> Geoff
>

the only other low album i have is "i could live in hope" and it's
excellent.  the basic formula is the same, but "i could..." seems a
little warmer to me.  it's not lo-fi at all, but the production(like
everything with low) is still minimal.  if you liked "the curtain...",
then it's a pretty safe bet that you'll like "i could..."

jason

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:07:53 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Ian McCullough


--from "Read Dawkins":

> However, rumors have it that the remaining three original bunnymen
> are back together and recording.

It was reported in Alternative Press about two months ago that the
surviving three members were indeed back together and recording with
Michael Lee on drums, who played on Robert Plant & Jimmy Page's last
"unplugged" tour.

All together now...*ugh*

You know, _Reverberation_ was actually a pretty good album.  I've always
thought it  would be interesting to see what would have happened if
they'd gone under another name for that album.  And seeing as how most
(3/5) of the band was new to E&tB as of that album, they should've done
it anyway, but alas, they didn't consult me.

---Jeremy 

"It's 1963.  It's 1964.  It's 1967.  It's 1962."


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:31:28 -0500
From: JRR TOLKIEN (GGNL44A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: HNiA - King of Sweet


I just received my copy of this CD today. I am even currently
listening to it. My thanks go out to TallMan1@ix.netcom.com for
sending me the information that allowed me to purchase this CD mail
order from a store near his work. All I can say is that when I
started to seriously try to track this CD down a month ago, I got a
lot of email saying to give it up and have a friend dub it because it
is impossible to find. I even got email from someone that was willing
to burn a CD copy of it for me. Thanks for the offer, but I wanted a
numbered original (NUMBA:1226). So for all of those HNiA fans out
there still desperately searching for a copy, if you are persistant,
you will find one. Good luck! Just so you know... I got mine for $16.
98 + $5.00 shipping. I was ready and prepared to pay $50 for a used
copy if I needed to. Bubye...
      Ryan (GGNL44A@Prodigy.com) who has King of Sweet and after I
get some money, will be desperately seeking Moose and Comsat Angels
albums...


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:07:31 +0100
From: matthias walzner (artbooks@WWW-STUDIO.COM)
Subject: You can rely on toast.


I have scanned the sleeve Of:

VA/ You can rely on toast: 4ad comp. July 1996




Best regards,

matthias.

artbooks@www-studio.com


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:45:48 -0500
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@STUDENT.BERKLEE.EDU)
Subject: Re: low?


For anyone who has purchased "The Curtain Hits the Cast,"  PLEEAASSEEE
do yourself and buy their second release, "Long Division."  IMO  it is
their finest album so far.  It's all very melodic and beautiful with
amazing production by Kramer.  The album is veru much in the vein of
"Over the Ocean" and "The Plan" from "The Curtain Hits the Cast."  The
fist song from it, "Violence"  is quite possibly my favorite song by
them with "Stay" running a close 2nd.


GET IT SOON!!!


-Matt


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:37:03 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.

              from "matthias walzner" at Jan 28, 97 02:07:31 pm

> VA/ You can rely on toast: 4ad comp. July 1996
> Scan at:  http://www.bic.de/artbooks/rely.html
>
Is this a new compilation or something?  I haven't heard about it.
July 96 is quite a while ago.  Is it just being released now?

I'll bet it is a Europe only thing, like FTWW.

Dave


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:14:00 +0100
From: "SEBASTIAN.MUNDT" (Sebastian.Mundt@T-ONLINE.DE)
Subject: Re: hector zazou/dcd


>Be careful, there are two versions of Sahara Blue.  The one with the blue
>case has the songs by Perry and Gerrard.  It is a limited series.  The other
>with the clear case is available widely, but no DCD.

to minimize confusion: the discussed tracks (co-written music by
perry/gerrard/zazou) are 'youth' and 'black stream'.

you' as bonus track (cat. no. srcs 6979 on crammed/sony). and there's the
original cd on crammed discs and ... many others for completists ;-)

best wishes,
sebastian

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:37:52 +0500
From: Will Bryant (willb26@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Belly "Star" Promo Digipak For Sale


Hey all --

I have a copy of the promo version of Belly's "Star" (4AD CAD D 3002 CD)
for sale.  It is housed in a gatefold digipak (similar to the deluxe "Hips
And Makers" digipak) with some extra/alternate art than the standard
release.

Minimum bid $12.  Please send inquiries by private E-mail and not to the
list.  Thanks!


///////WB
willb26@earthlink.net


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:08:21 -0200
From: RODRIGO YOSHITOMO MUNEMASA ITO - NIB - 2225556 #010704#
Subject: Re: DCD/Ian McCullough

              "Matthew Greer" at Jan 27, 97 01:48:54 pm

>
> Hey all,
>
>         Being a 4AD newbie I've only got spiritchaser and a passage in
> time from DCD, and I love them both. so can somebody recommend where to
> go from there? does DCD have any albums that where duds?
>
> Matt
>

        Personal opinion. Try listnening their stuff in this order: "Spleen and
Ideal", "Within the realm of a dying sun" and their first CD: "Dead can
Dance".
        Otherwise just try "towards the within" it has some neat stuff
from a lot of their works (thus covering a good part of their releases,
methinks better than a passage in time).


                                                Ito

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:14:07 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.


In a message dated 97-01-28 10:52:44 EST, you write:

<< > VA/ You can rely on toast: 4ad comp. July 1996
 > Scan at:  http://www.bic.de/artbooks/rely.html
 >
 Is this a new compilation or something?  I haven't heard about it.
 July 96 is quite a while ago.  Is it just being released now?

 I'll bet it is a Europe only thing, like FTWW.

 Dave
  >>


ditto....what the @#%$ is this?!?!?!?

anyone?

~blu


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:02:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Ian McCullough


>recording with
>Michael Lee on drums, who played on Robert Plant & Jimmy Page's last
>"unplugged" tour.
>All together now...*ugh*

Porl Thompson of the Cure also played [gtr] on that tour, I hear. While
I've lost all respect for the Cure over the past decade, I do still like
some of their older albums that he played on and I'm not going to dismiss
him entirely for touring with some old dinosaurs.

Besides, I like Led Zeppelin, quite a lot actually, at least up through
"Physical Graffiti", although I really haven't listened to any of their
albums in a long time.

>You know, _Reverberation_ was actually a pretty good album.

Does it sound anything like their earlier works? I was just listening to
"Crocodiles" last weekend after many a year, and _damn_ that's a fine
record.

__________         _____________________         _______________________
Jens Alfke\        Wild-Eyed Java Zealot\        jens@apple.com    -work\
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com -play\

      Goodnight stars   Goodnight air   Goodnight noises everywhere
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:18:55 EST
From: SnowGlassApples (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: [TsunamiSMR@aol.com: Liquorice dates]


this just in from simple machines...
its the tour dates for liquorice..
im only bitter because trenton nj is so close to me,.. and the damn thing is
tonight!!!
(they;re very good at last minute things...)
hope to see some of you at the new york show!

-=robn
(aleppo@eden.rutgers.edu)
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an 1997 00:55:19 -0500
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:42:25 -0500 (EST)
From: TsunamiSMR@aol.com
Subject: Liquorice dates


Okay, we'll make this short and sweet.
Here are those Liquorice dates:

January
Tues 28    Trenton, NJ          Rathskellar   w/Trans Am

Febraury
Wed 19      New York, NY       Brownies
Thur 20     TBA
Fri 21        Philadelphia, PA  R.U.B.A Club  w/Lilys and Gel Caps
Sat 22       Princeton, NJ        Terrace Club
Sun 23       Cambridge, MA      Middle East

Of course, you can always email us directly if you have questions about any
of these shows.  Check ya later!

Kristin/Simple Machines


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:10:30 -0000
From: His Name Is A List (livonia@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: web list archive


Just a wee reminder re another way of getting 'livonia' rather
than subbing via your e-mail, or a way of checking old mail

There's been a web-based e-mail account since the start of
this list - you can find all posts back to the beginning of
September on it.

To access it:

User id:  livonia

The controls are pretty obvious, unless of course you're a lynx user.


If you like it, whisper into warren's ear that it's time he toured
to Scotland some time ;-)


cheers



jey
glasgow

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:53:34 +0100
From: Jon Kvebaek (jkv@A.SOL.NO)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus in Reykjavik


Eitan Shavit  writes:

> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0D5B.446B50C0
> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

Umm. What the hell is this? Is it something I should be interested in
in spite of the fact that it looks like something cooked up by
Microsoft?

I can't say unpacking it made me any wiser - it looked like it _could_
be a copy of the message itself, hidden deep within som binary code
generated by Microsoft mail. Enlighten me please.

Jon.

ObMusic (4ADish): Has Harold Budd and Hector Zazou done anything
together except Glyph (which I enjoy immensely)?
--
"Wrinkled earlobes are a sign of impending heart attacks."


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:36:32 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: You can rely on toast.


Blue Bell's Knoll wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-01-28 10:52:44 EST, you write:
>
> << > VA/ You can rely on toast: 4ad comp. July 1996
>  > Scan at:  http://www.bic.de/artbooks/rely.html
>  >
>  Is this a new compilation or something?  I haven't heard about it.
>  July 96 is quite a while ago.  Is it just being released now?
>
>  I'll bet it is a Europe only thing, like FTWW.
>
>  Dave
>   >>
>
> ditto....what the @#%$ is this?!?!?!?
>
> anyone?
>
> ~blu

If I'm not mistaken, this is a promo for Latin America only.

Bill


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:50:36 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Was: GusGus in R'vik, Now: E-Mail Attachments...


It just looks to me like he has an email client that automatically sends a
text attachment. Why someone would need that feature is beyond me.  He
probably just needs to turn that feature off (or get a real e-mail client
that doesn't clog people's computers with worthless attached files).  But
I'm sure it's harmless, nonetheless.

Mike


At 09:53 PM 1/28/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Eitan Shavit  writes:
>
>> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0D5B.446B50C0
>> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
>Umm. What the hell is this? Is it something I should be interested in
>in spite of the fact that it looks like something cooked up by
>Microsoft?
>
>I can't say unpacking it made me any wiser - it looked like it _could_
>be a copy of the message itself, hidden deep within som binary code
>generated by Microsoft mail. Enlighten me please.
>
>Jon.
>
>ObMusic (4ADish): Has Harold Budd and Hector Zazou done anything
>together except Glyph (which I enjoy immensely)?
>--
>"Wrinkled earlobes are a sign of impending heart attacks."
>
>


Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:38:10 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: low?


Matt wrote:

>For anyone who has purchased "The Curtain Hits the Cast,"  PLEEAASSEEE
>do yourself and buy their second release, "Long Division."  IMO  it is
>their finest album so far.  It's all very melodic and beautiful with
>amazing production by Kramer.  The album is veru much in the vein of
>"Over the Ocean" and "The Plan" from "The Curtain Hits the Cast."  The
>fist song from it, "Violence"  is quite possibly my favorite song by
>them with "Stay" running a close 2nd.

What about 'Words' and 'Drag' from 'I Could Live In Hope'?

Frank


+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:15:17 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: low?

              Jan 29, 97 02:38:10 am

>
> Matt wrote:
>
> >For anyone who has purchased "The Curtain Hits the Cast,"  PLEEAASSEEE
> >do yourself and buy their second release, "Long Division."  IMO  it is
> >their finest album so far.  It's all very melodic and beautiful with
> >amazing production by Kramer.  The album is veru much in the vein of
> >"Over the Ocean" and "The Plan" from "The Curtain Hits the Cast."  The
> >fist song from it, "Violence"  is quite possibly my favorite song by
> >them with "Stay" running a close 2nd.
>
> What about 'Words' and 'Drag' from 'I Could Live In Hope'?
>
> Frank

"words" was the first low song i ever heard, and still one of my
favorites.  i love how low can make any song, whether it's a three
minute long "pop" song or a 14 minute droning wash of guitars and bass
into the most soothing thing in the world.  they just blew me away in
concert with that stuff.

jason