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Subject: Re: A little sale...
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:35:29 -0800
From: Reichert ([email protected])
Subject: PRAM
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:02:24 +0100
From: Niko Deleu - DELAWARE ([email protected])
Subject: Xymox?
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:59:25 +0000
From: Geoffrey Elgey ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:58:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" ([email protected])
Subject: that's right
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:14:12 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent ([email protected])
Subject: ?rosewater elisabeth?
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:17:22 +0000
From: starlite walker ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Swans
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:03:10 +0000
From: Geoffrey Elgey ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:58:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 20 Jan 1997 to 21 Jan 1997
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:11:57 +0000
From: Richard Anderson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: List of used CDs for sale
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:58:17 -0800
From: Reichert ([email protected])
Subject: Re: ?rosewater elisabeth?
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:44:20 -0800
From: cz ([email protected])
Subject: Re: andie macdowell convinces me that...
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 03:49:11 GMT
From: Paul Spirito ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses cassette
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:59:20 EST
From: Matt DeBellis ([email protected])

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:35:29 -0800
From: Reichert ([email protected])
Subject: Re: A little sale...

              97 05:00:35 pm

I forgot to mention that I will also trade items for:

Throwing Muses - Firepile (pt. 2)

Thanks,
Jake Reichert

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:02:24 +0100
From: Niko Deleu - DELAWARE ([email protected])
Subject: PRAM


Hello,

Is there anbody who knows about Pram's tour dates ?

[email protected]


Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:59:25 +0000
From: Geoffrey Elgey ([email protected])
Subject: Xymox?


G'day,

I saw a couple of cheap Xymox CD's yesterday - can't remember the titles now
(one was from about 1989 I think). Anyway, can someone tell me what this
band are like?

Thanks,
Geoff

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:58:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert


On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:42:14 +0000 Greyson Welch 
>
>                Speaking of the Swans, someone posted the web-address
>for their
>web-page, and I went to it again recently.  Something I didn't notice
>before, the prices of things in their catalog seem a bit *Fucking*
>Expensive.  I attribute this to this being the last copies of the
>original versions before their re-released with alternate tracks, but
>I really don't think there's going to be a huge scramble to get old
>Swans albums anytime soon, so why the high prices?

Well, actually, I think I'm ready to make that scramble...so, which
titles do you consider to be "must haves"?

And yes, I am definitely going to the show! Thanks for all the
recommendations!

Carol

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:14:12 -0700
From: David Edward Sargent ([email protected])
Subject: that's right


hello everyone, it is i, the nick-name-less. taunt me all you want.
speakinng of hnia and wierdness, what's the story on "darkest dreams"?
there's lyrics and everything but all i hear is some moaning and wailing
glazed over by guitars. what up? don't get me wrong, it's one of my
favorite songs.

ok, personal messages:


poor and i don't care,
dave


Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:17:22 +0000
From: starlite walker ([email protected])
Subject: ?rosewater elisabeth?


ive heard some of you mention this band before in the general context of -
as someone put it: CT/early hnia/love spirals downwards/dead can
dance/love is colder than death; - by the way my reason for all of this is
that if i want rosewater elisabeth ill have to get it shipped from the US
so its not just your simple =A314 job - anyway my point is that the above
list of bands is rather ambigous according to my taste in that i love
CT/early hnia/LSD, i like early DCD but cannot stand some of their later
stuff and do not like LICTD at all. you see my dilema?, can someone be
more specific as to where rosewater elisabeth fit into all of this
confusion - i dont want to miss out on anything great but i dont want to
spend loads of my dwindling money supply on something im going to hate.

understand?  =20
thanks.

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:03:10 +0000
From: Geoffrey Elgey ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Swans


G'day,

>I've heard "The Great Annihilator" (I'm not too sure about spelling
>either). And it is much more bombastic than the post "Burning World" Swans.
>It's on Invisible Records which may be part of the reason. I recomend it
>but if your into more mellow stuff get "White Light (in)to? the Mouth of
>Infinity" That's also a good one. But then agian I'm pretty fond of most
>of their stuff, but the early stuff goes a bit to far into self-loathing
>for me to want to listen to a lot.

I bought Swan's 'Children of God' double LP back in the day...In fact, I
listened to it just last week before this thread started up. It's the only
Swans I own though. What's their latest stuff like? This one was all S-L-O-W
and deathly vocals. But by the above post, have they mellowed out a bit?

Thanks,
Geoff

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:58:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert


On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:31:13 -0500 "James P. Crimm" 
><<<<
>     I saw Low not too long ago and they were much better than I
>expected.
>As for Swans, I would love to hear this band. I understand that this
>is a
>farwell tour? Anyway, even if you didn't like the show, you would
>remember
>it for the rest of your life(I'll wager). Has anyone heard "The Great
>Anni-
>alator" (2 points off for spelling)? I've heard that it has an earlier
>Swans
>bombast.
>
>                                                        Cheers,
>Pat
>
Thank you everyone that posted favorably about Low & Swans. On your
recommendations, I just got Low's ep "Transmission", and on one listen I
decided to attend the show. I'll let ya'll know how it goes...oh, by the
way, I did hear from someone that it is the Swans farewell tour, but I
also hear that they live here in Georgia, so maybe I'll be seeing them
around again.

Carol


Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:11:57 +0000
From: Richard Anderson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 20 Jan 1997 to 21 Jan 1997


MERCH
BIO

Trey,

I've heard a lot about you from this list but unfortunately haven't heard
any of your stuff. Do you know if you've been released here in Australia?
If not can I order by credit card?

Look forward to hearing from you, I'm more than happy to get your
newsletter. Have a good tour.

Rich xxoo

_____________________
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Student Centre (F09)
University of Sydney
NSW.    2006
Australia
ph  61 - 2 - 9351 2578
fax 61 - 2 - 9351 5081
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assaulted it seems
by tears from heaven
and darling I can't help
thinking those tears are yours
                        - Patti Smith
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:58:17 -0800
From: Reichert ([email protected])
Subject: Re: List of used CDs for sale

              12, 97 01:24:47 pm

> Phillip Glass- Songs from Liquid Days $6
> Ocean Blue- Cerulean $5

Hello,

If you still have either of these cd's, I'm interested in them.

Thanks,
Jake Reichert

p.s. please reply to my other address, [email protected].


Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:44:20 -0800
From: cz ([email protected])
Subject: Re: ?rosewater elisabeth?

               of Wed,
              22 Jan 1997 22:17:22 +0000

>   rather ambigous according to my taste in that i love
>   CT/early hnia/LSD, i like early DCD but cannot stand
>   some of their later stuff and do not like LICTD at all.
>   you see my dilema?, can someone be more specific as to
>   where rosewater elisabeth fit into all of this

Rosewater Elizabeth is closer to HNIA or CT/LSD in that they have very little of
the medieval character that characterizes mid-era DCD or late Love is Colder
than Death.

There are pretty vocals sometimes without proper lyrics (therefore, the CT/DCD
connection--as if this were a real connection at all) with dynamic musical
accompaniment.  The connection to HNIA would be the odd juxtoposition of sounds
here and there (though they are far less adept than Defever) while there are
songs with a soft building urgency that is remniscent of Treasure era Cocteaux
or Mazzy Star.

In each of these comparisons, Rosewater Elizabeth, come up a bit short ... BUT
comparisons never do a band justice and won't prepare you for the beauty that is
... Rosewater Elizabeth.

I highly recommend them.

-cz


Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 03:49:11 GMT
From: Paul Spirito ([email protected])
Subject: Re: andie macdowell convinces me that...


On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:38:30 -0500, Jason Bryant 

>> "Shortcuts" is a fairly good movie.  Some of the acting is a bit off =
(Andie
>>  MacDowell is pretty lousy).  The story with Julianne Moore is  =
fantastic!
>
>
>Has Andie MacDowell ever had a good (nary a great) performance? =20

Groundhog Day!

released, possibly because Gregg Araki's previous films sucked (I saw
only "The Living End" which is on my top ten worst ever list), but
someone I respect said nice things about it, so I saw it last weekend,
and was more than pleasantly surprised (except for the end). This
Mortal Coil figure in the plot, sort of.

Paul

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:59:20 EST
From: Matt DeBellis ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses cassette


i think the album is rare if only in the fact that it's only available on
import.. BUT that will soon change, because the first album is being
re-released as a double album with the 1985 demos cassette, chains
changed, and some old tracks recently re-done.  And possible a full
lyrics booklet inside????  we can only hope....


speaking of the muses....

does anyone know when that documentary film on them will be completed??
and where it will be available???

thanks...

matt


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