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Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:20:35 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:31:13 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@ZOO.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:02:16 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Shelleyann Orphan
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:07:39 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: gus gus
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:22:21 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:15:54 -0500
From: "Rufus T. Firefly" (mwelker@BGNET.BGSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: gus gus
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:48:06 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Global Comms, Lamb, Muses
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:30:31 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:49:49 +0000
From: Pedro Blasco Onsurbe (pedro@gesein.es)
Subject: U.S. Record / CD Outlets-Survey
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:20:15 +0000
From: VK (primitec@slip.net)
Subject: Re: gus gus
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:01:27 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (jgcamil@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Deflowered
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:44:34 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: GusGus sing Barry White...
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:39:13 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)

Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:20:35 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert

              Jan 19, 97 04:59:15 pm

>
> There's a live show featuring Low & the Swans coming  here, and I'm
> wondering if I should brave the howling winter winds to venture out. I
> don't have & haven't even heard these two bands, I humbly confess.
>
> Anyone want to give me guidance so I don't kick myself later?

i'm not that familiar with the swans, but i'd go just to see low.  i
saw them a couple months ago and they put on a simply brilliant show.
if you want to listen to mellow, and i mean MELLOW music, then it
doesn't get better than low.  very slow music that uses sparse
percussion, droning guitars, and beautiful male/female vocal
harmonies.  they'll either put you in a trance or drift you off to
sleep.

> Thanks,
>
> Carol

jason


Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:31:13 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@ZOO.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert


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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:02:16 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low, Swans Concert


On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, C.K. Coney wrote:

> There's a live show featuring Low & the Swans coming  here, and I'm
> wondering if I should brave the howling winter winds to venture out. I
> don't have & haven't even heard these two bands, I humbly confess.

If you don't go you will be kicking yourself a lot!  I've seen the Swans
a couple years back,
it was an incredible and frightening experience.  I'm going again tommorrow.
Jes

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:07:39 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Shelleyann Orphan

              Jan 17, 97 11:59:28 am

 Tony Renner  wrote on Fri, 17 Jan 1997
 (Subject: Shelleyann Orphan)
 > Is anyone on the list looking for Shelleyan Orphan's WAKING UP
 > promo-only EP on Columbia?

 No.  I did come across a copy of "Century Flower" in a local second
 hand shop this weekend - is that the one everyone says they are looking
 for?  (As you can probably tell, I'm not a huge SO fan and haven't been
 paying attention).


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:22:21 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: gus gus


gus gus does not equal colourbox or older wolfgang press...what are you on?

gus gus equals the orb meets portishead, or something like that, though the
vox on polyesterday itself are more adult contemp...cold breath '79 (or
whatever) features very good portishead-type vocals...

you may not like the album if you dig old hnia, dcd and cocteaus, but it's
really not like anything else on 4ad, save maybe insides...

BiZ, who's found himself listening to a lot of gus gus and mouse on mars lately

"mashed potatoes hold everything together..."
        -overheard


Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:15:54 -0500
From: "Rufus T. Firefly" (mwelker@BGNET.BGSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP


On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, kanga and lisa roo wrote:

> I have recently discoverd the author Raymond Carver's short stories.
> I was amazed at their honesty, subtlety and breath of emotion.  They seem
> to be subdued, yet extremely powerful and poignant... full of pent up
> longing and desparation, not unlike many of Mark K.'s songs..

For anybody who is looking for more Raymond Carver info, I'm building a
site dedicated the man and his works:

        http://www.bgsu.edu/~mwelker/carver/

The site's still in its infancy, but I'm adding on bits every day.

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Mike Welker                                       mwelker@bgnet.bgsu.edu
        PURITANISM: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere,
                                may be happy.
                                                -H. L. Mencken
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:48:06 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: gus gus


In a message dated 97-01-20 19:24:32 EST, you write:

<< gus gus does not equal colourbox or older wolfgang press...what are you
on?

 gus gus equals the orb meets portishead, or something like that, though the
 vox on polyesterday itself are more adult contemp...cold breath '79 (or
 whatever) features very good portishead-type vocals...
  >>

One, I never said that they EQUAL colourbox or Wolfgang Press.  Second, I do
not think I put older wolfgang press (unless it is a typo).  Insides is a
better choice of description.  All I was trying to do is suggest that the
music is dancable and compare it to something else on 4ad.  I forgot the
Insides.  No, they do not sound like Colourbox or New Wolfgang Press, but
there are similarities.


Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:30:31 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Global Comms, Lamb, Muses


 Thanks to the power of the internet and my Leicester University Visa
 card, the Throwing Muses "live in the studio" mini-album and
 "Freeloader" EP arrived on Friday.  I think I'm right in saying these
 are the first US-only Muses releases since that first 7".  Not
 exactly stunning - as I had imagined, the first disc is a fairly
 rough and ready thrash through half a dozen songs, and the EP is
 definitely an A-side and three B-sides (unlike, say, "Chains Changed"
 or "Counting Backwards", each of which had four strong songs).  What
 exactly is a "live remix"?

 Found the Lamb album dirt cheap in a sale - can't remember whether
 this list or Pure-Impure has been carrying raves about it.  My
 verdict - it's cack.  Dolores Cranberry goes jungle/hip-hop, I can
 see why the record company might love it but it's not going to be
 occupying my CD player very often.  Same goes, sadly, for the new
 Global Communication single, a rather low-key release, which sounds
 like the sort of rubbish chancers with drum machines and sequencers
 were churning out by the barrowload during the great ambient techno
 boom of a couple of years ago.  It's called "The Way/The Deep", by
 the way.  "76 14" is a masterpiece, and I loved the cheesy acid
 "Antacid" EP they did as Link, but when they get it wrong (e.g.  most
 of the "Theory of Evolution" compilation) they *really* get it
 wrong.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:49:49 +0000
From: Pedro Blasco Onsurbe (pedro@gesein.es)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP


On 18 Jan 97 at 13:33, kanga and lisa roo wrote:

> I have recently discoverd the author Raymond Carver's short stories.
> I was amazed at their honesty, subtlety and breath of emotion.  They seem
> to be subdued, yet extremely powerful and poignant... full of pent up
> longing and desparation, not unlike many of Mark K.'s songs..
>
> Has anyone else read these? Do you agree? I have in mind one in particular,
> the Student's Wife which seems to go perfectly witht the cover picture of
> Down Colorfull Hill. I understand that Robert Altman has made a movie about
> Raymond Carver and his work called Short Cuts. Has anyone seen this? I
> haven't
> and I was also wondering if it was any good...

In fact, I discovered Raymond Carver by Robert Altman's film. I
enjoyed a lot the film and the characters and I decided to buy and
read the book, also named "Short cuts". After that, I wanted more and
more and bought more books ("Postman", "Factotum", "Hollywood", "A
woman wanted"...). Now, Raymond Carver is one of my favourite
writers. The film was, imo, different from the stories: the ambient
was much more brightful than the one I magine for the stories of
Carver, but anyway I think Altman made a good work.

One of my favourite bands is Red House Painters and I find
interesting what you say about the similarity between RHP and Carver.
I must admit that those similarities somehow had passed me by, but
now I think you are right.

By the way, Carver took me to other american writers like Charles Bukowski
and Paul Auster. Can anyone think of bands related to these writers?

=>   +   -O^O-
(hasta mas ver)

PERICO (EL DE LOS PALOTES)

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:20:15 +0000
From: VK (primitec@slip.net)
Subject: U.S. Record / CD Outlets-Survey


If it's not too much to ask, where is everyone buying their new music
and hard to find new/used imports? On-line vs. retailer vs. label
direct? Please let me know the names of the good modern/import type
stores in your area (city and state also ok?) or On-line company.
Private responses are preferred since this request is not strictly 4AD
related, thanks in advance.

Vic K


Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:01:27 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (jgcamil@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: gus gus


Has anyone seeen a copy of Gus Gus's Polyesterday around Austin? 'Been
searching for it but no luck so far.
I=B4d appreciate if anyone can give a hint on where to find this release.

Thanks
Pepe
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:44:34 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Deflowered


the boy in zinc wrote:

...you may not like the album if you dig old hnia, dcd and cocteaus, but
it's really not like anything else on 4ad, save maybe insides...

Or how 'bout those cool '91 remixes frim In Camera?  Sadly under-heard,
these remixes showed that even five years ago 4AD was interested in a
signing a band like GusGus.

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|    Jeff G. Keibel    |
| Scarborough, Ontario |
|        CANADA        |
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e mail:  redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:39:13 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: GusGus sing Barry White...

A27562

GusGus replied to a message I sent them and it's too good not to share!

Hi Jeff !

Polydistortion was released, 600 copies, Nov 95, by Kjol & Anderson,
in Iceland. Seems like people far and wide know about it, down to the
last detail. We've sold or given away all of them,  i'm sure some are
kicking about in a forgotten corner of some record company offices.

The singer on 'Why' is Emil=EDana Torrini, she has her own album out
in Iceland, released just before Christmas. Emil=EDana also sings 'Is
jesus your pal ?' on 'Polydistortion', she was part of the first Gusgus
movie and wanted to carry on with her acting so didn't sign with 4AD.

MuchMusic are coming to the party, look out for that on the t.v.
and MTV america is going to start showing 'Polyesterday' this month.
More info will follow, with the album release and at the begining of
June a short american tour. I guess Gusgus will meet you if a Toronto
gig is sorted out.

thanks for your message

=A9Kj=F3l & Anderson 1996

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|    Jeff G. Keibel    |
| Scarborough, Ontario |
|        CANADA        |
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