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Subject: Paladins - it came about due to a late night shot heard round the
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:34:59 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins - it came about due to a late night shot heard round
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:58:59 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Lois Maffeo
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:55:55 EST
From: "Renee S. Bessette" (RBES3493@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: Cocteaus transcript
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:09:47 -0500
From: Graham Anderson (Andersonuk@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: sea, cake, and gastr del sol
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:57:22 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: ND's store in Austin...
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:35:29 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Raymond Carver = RHP
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:33:26 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Subscribe pure impure
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:17:44 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (jgcamil@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: The myth behind HNIA's Wall of Speed?
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:27:22 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Tarnation TAD7000
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:17:11 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Request for info. (Non 4AD)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:40:44 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:19:14 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The myth behind HNIA's Wall of Speed?
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:25:19 -0500
From: Kelli-Jeanne Drum (Noisegirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation TAD7000
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:47:26 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Albino Alligator soundtrack
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:45:09 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (brendon@HOME.NET)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:06:40 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: ND's store in Austin...
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:19:47 -0600
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:34:59 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Paladins - it came about due to a late night shot heard round the

              world.

> Speaking of things being thislisty, with the Paladins on 4AD would not
>  Stevie Ray Vaughn then be thislisty?  Just asking. . . .

I have come to the conclusion (or deeply insinuated and persuaded to the
belieft) that Ivo signed the Paladins on a drunken dare.

No, now wait. . .here me out on this.

Someone said late one night over the shared 14th shot of the preferred
alcoholic beverage of that evening, "hey Ivo!  Who would you sign if you
lived in *Bizarro-land?"
...and without hesitation Ivo said, "the bloody Paladins."  and kept his face
brazenly straight and without the slightest hint of an impending laugh line
emerging.  His amazed company, wide-eyed, amazed, and presumably their mouth
gaping at his quick retort and his choice of bizzare, bizarro-land incombants
uttered (and stuttered) "I triple dog dare you to do it."

...and the rest my dear listies, is faux-pas 4AD signing history.

* - (bizarro land is the anti-superman land where the earth is square and
kryptonite is consumed like GNC vitamins, and Steve Buschemi is James Bond,
and where MacGyver can't make toast with a toaster, bread, *and* buttah.
 hi-ho).

jason


srilank@aol.com


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:58:59 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins - it came about due to a late night shot heard round

              the world.

In a message dated 97-01-18 00:43:53 EST, you write:

<<  have come to the conclusion (or deeply insinuated and persuaded to the
 belieft) that Ivo signed the Paladins on a drunken dare.
  >>

You know I think Ivo has a thing for good live shows.  Supposedly he signed
Scheer because of their live show (I do like Scheer though).  The Paladins
are legendary in California for their live shows.  They have been playing for
ages now down here.  Since Ivo lives in LA now, he probably goes to House of
Blues, etc. and was blown away by them.  On disc though they sound like any
barroom bluesy band.


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:55:55 EST
From: "Renee S. Bessette" (RBES3493@URIACC.URI.EDU)
Subject: Lois Maffeo

              

The other day, matthew DeBellis asked about the song Lois did with Dub
Narcotic Sound System. Most likely, it was "Ship to Shore," which appears
on an ep of the same name on K. It came out in October. It's got that song,
as well as a few remixes of it plus one or two other songs. If you liked that
you ought to pick up DNSS "Boot Party," also on K.

Renee Bessette


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:09:47 -0500
From: Graham Anderson (Andersonuk@AOL.COM)
Subject: Cocteaus transcript


If anyone want transcripts of the Auditorium event the Cocteau Twins did on
AOL, it will be available from their website:

www.cocteautwins.com

Its not up there yet but the champagne was flowing...

g r a h a m


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:57:22 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: sea, cake, and gastr del sol


too bad we get no more Coctails songs anymore. i laugh so loud listening
to the working holiday track.
i love gastr del sol. the brains behind del sol is john o'rourke. if you
like experimental jazz and rock coming from the knitting factory then you
might like mr. o'rourke's muzik. think... if the knitting factory was
located somewhere in the midwest (like chicago) than gastr del sol would
be the main act... however since its located in new york we get sonik
youth or something like that.
        nothing is left to expectation when it comes to gastr del sol.
everything is mixed up in a bowl not unlike tortoise jam sessions. john
mcentire (not the tennis player) is god...

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**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:35:29 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: ND's store in Austin...


There is a record store in Austin run by the same fellow who runs ND records.
Can anyone tell me what the name is and where it is located? I do not
remember at this moment and I'll be in Austin next weekend to visit a
friend and generally cause mischief. I wanted to stop by, but I didn't
remember the name!

thanks oodles,
lisaroo

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:33:26 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Raymond Carver = RHP


I have recently discoverd the author Raymond Carver's short stories.
I was amazed at their honesty, subtlety and breath of emotion.  They seem
to be subdued, yet extremely powerful and poignant... full of pent up
longing and desparation, not unlike many of Mark K.'s songs..

Has anyone else read these? Do you agree? I have in mind one in particular,
the Student's Wife which seems to go perfectly witht the cover picture of
Down Colorfull Hill. I understand that Robert Altman has made a movie about
Raymond Carver and his work called Short Cuts. Has anyone seen this? I
haven't
and I was also wondering if it was any good...

lisarioux svetlana chicita

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:17:44 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (jgcamil@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Subscribe pure impure


Does anyone out there  knows how to subscribe to the Pure Impure list? I=B4v=
e
trying but no succes so far...

Thanks
Pepe
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:27:22 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: The myth behind HNIA's Wall of Speed?


My favorite track from Stars on ESP is Wall of Speed.

I have long suspected that the song is a Romeo & Juliet type affair, based
on the ancient myth of Piramus and Thisbe, on which Shakespeare's Romeo and
Juliet and Midsummer's Night Dream were based.

The myth goes as follows, as told by the Roman poet Ovid...
Pyramus and Thisbe were next door neighbors in Babylon, forbidden by their
parents to marry or even to meet each other.  They conversed through a
crack in the common wall of their houses and arranged to meet a tomb
outside of the city.  Thisbe arrived first only to be frightened by a
lioness that had come to drink in a nearby river. As she fled, she dropped
her veil, which the lioness mangled with her paws, bloodstained from a
recent kill.  Pyramus came and found the footprints of the lioness and the
bloodstained veil.  he concluded that the lioness had eathen Thisbe and
fell on his sword; as he lay dying, Thisbe returned and in grief killed
herself with the same sword.. They lay together in death beneath a mulbury
tree, whose fruit, which before had been white, henceforward would be
black, in answer to Thisbe's dying prayer that it be a memorial of the
tragedy...

Anyway, I infered this from the title "Wall.." and from the line "Are you
montague?" and from "A whisper falls on a willing ear" and a few other
lines..
I've tried to transcribe the song below.. But also, there is the
renaissance sounding processional music at the end of the song, before it
segues into the Beech Boys song.  It's all quite lovely.

I was wondering if anyone else had caught this, or if I am entirely off track
or if anyone's read an interview with Wrn or others who might have
commented on this song...

cheers,
lisarioux

*****song below********
Send me a letter
Send a message to me
A whisper fall on a willing ear
--line I couldn't hear----
I know now, sometimes I think
They lead with gentle hands
I miss next to you
Are you Montague?
I'd like to hold you
My arms don't reach
Send me a letter
Send a message to me
On a riverbank I linger
Till I see you more
I swim across the water
And then I'm full of shore
I miss next to you
Are you Montague?
I'd like to hold you
My arms don't reach
Send me a letter
Send a message to me


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:17:11 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Tarnation TAD7000


        I got the limited edition seven of Tarnation's 'There's Someone' in the
post today. I was kind of curious how the new mark 2 Tarnation would sound since
Paula's the only one left from mark 1. Obviously, her voice is distinctive, and
so it's immediately recognisable as Tarnation - but the band! It's vintage
Jefferson Airplane, I kid you not. 'There's Someone' rattles along like a track
from Surrealistic Pillow, full of trebly acid-guitar with Paula's yearning,
slightly hicky vocal (no disrespect intended) replacing Grace Slick's bombast.
The other song, 'I Didn't Mean It' is a long country lament, but still there's
that feel of SF '67 lurking in the background. I have to say, as a habitual
retro-basher, this is fine stuff indeed. I look forward to the album. Until
then, I'll have to make do with 2400 Fulton Street, :-)

- Dez


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:40:44 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Request for info. (Non 4AD)


On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Dermot Barry wrote:

> hi,
>
>     A friend is looking for a couple of CDs and asked if I could help
> him. They are by an outfit called Bubonique who apparentley are signed
> to a Newcastle, England, label called Kitchenware. The CDs are : "20
> Golden Showers" and "Trance Arse Volume Three". Has anyone heard of
> these ? are they still in print ? catalogue numbers ?

i dont know much about this but i think that bubonique are an offshoot band
of the fatima mansions (who also have stuff on kitchenware), a friend of
mine once bought '20 golden showers' and then took it back to the shop
because he hated it!. he took the time to play me it first though - if i
remember correctly it was largely unlistenable but with the odd touch of
genius here and there. as for how to get them - sorry, ive no idea.


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:19:14 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Raymond Carver = RHP


In a message dated 97-01-18 14:34:34 EST, you write:

<< I have recently discoverd the author Raymond Carver's short stories.
 I was amazed at their honesty, subtlety and breath of emotion.  They seem
 to be subdued, yet extremely powerful and poignant... full of pent up
 longing and desparation, not unlike many of Mark K.'s songs..

 Has anyone else read these? Do you agree? I have in mind one in particular,
 the Student's Wife which seems to go perfectly witht the cover picture of
 Down Colorfull Hill. I understand that Robert Altman has made a movie about
 Raymond Carver and his work called Short Cuts. Has anyone seen this? I
 haven't
 and I was also wondering if it was any good... >>

I think part of what you see in RHP is the great lyrics Mark writes.  They
are very poetic, with an attention to detail.  Few songwriters are able to
have such strong lyrics.  They generally fade into abstractions.  They remind
me vaguely of Raymond Carver.  Would be good to use them in a Carver movie.
 I have read many of Carver's stories.  One of the best writers of the
century.  I saw Short Cuts and loved it, but it is rather black.


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:25:19 -0500
From: Kelli-Jeanne Drum (Noisegirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The myth behind HNIA's Wall of Speed?


  i thought it was
  "are you mine to keep?"
  not
  "are you montague?"

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:47:26 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Tarnation TAD7000


>that feel of SF '67 lurking in the background. I have to say, as a habitual

Tarnation are based in SF, aren't they?

t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
     http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
{ catalogue number 30/version 13 }


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:45:09 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (brendon@HOME.NET)
Subject: Albino Alligator soundtrack


Hello all:

I'm curious if anyone has seen
the new Kevin Spacey directed movie
"Albino Alligator"? If so, is Michael Brook's
music interesting at all? I'm not planning on seeing
it, but would if the music is really good....

As for that USA Nikkita show: yeah, it was not that
great. Go rent the original French version directed
by Luc Besson instead.

Thanks,
-B
===========================================
Brendon Macaraeg                       brendon@home.net
Graphic Artist                 @Home Network
===========================================

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:06:40 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)


In a message dated 97-01-17 14:04:25 EST, you write:

<< >here is the live series tapes recorded during the '96 tour:::::::
 >
 >"These tapes were recorded by the band themselves each night.  Quality
 >varies.  All tapes are 45-90 minutes long"

 (titles of shows deleted)

 so these are the shows from '96...so when is this title from?  When I saw
 it, I assumed it was part of the 1996 series

 Michigan's Finest
 - his name is alive, 10 songs, nice!

 /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/-
 John B. Jones
 e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu
 web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones

 Internet Confessional: I watch "Boy Meets World" regularly. :|
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 - >>


this was a "private" or un-advertised show held at Zoot's some weeks before
the "official" show kicked off.  At least I think it was the Zoot's
show...may have been at Alvin's.  Needless to say..it is different than the
"Official '96 tour" Detroit tape.


~blu


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:19:47 -0600
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)
Subject: Re: ND's store in Austin...


kanga and lisa roo wrote:
> There is a record store in Austin run by the same fellow who runs ND
> records.
> Can anyone tell me what the name is and where it is located? I do not
> remember at this moment and I'll be in Austin next weekend to visit a
> friend and generally cause mischief. I wanted to stop by, but I didn't
> remember the name!

[hi, lisa!]

The store is called 33 Degrees, and it's located at 2821 San Jacinto
(try Yahoo Maps at http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo/ for a map), and/or call
(512) 476-7333!  Tell Dan that we say hi.  :)

Cheers,


hk'n'nancy
--
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"Let's have a bakesale!" -- Space Ghost


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