4ad-l Mail for 01-17-1997

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Subject: New Breathless cd
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:18:34 PST
From: Jason Hull (jason@HUGHES.NET)
Subject: Re: GARLANDS import CD wanted!
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:56:46 -0800
From: Matthew Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: Re: GARLANDS import CD wanted!
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:30:42 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: [p] and [c] 1996 4AD
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:06:51 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Announcement !!!
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:46:57 +0100
From: nm/zenana@BEKAERT.COM
Subject: cultural sophistication.....
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:50:31 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:38:47 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: timeSTEREO current catalog pt1.
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:52:48 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Lois Maffeo/Trenchmouth
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:13:20 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Horseland?
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:32:30 -0500
From: "the bus that couldn't slow down" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Muses Live to Tape & Freeloader released...
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:14:22 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:21:25 -0800
From: Eric (edusolel@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Lois Maffeo/Trenchmouth
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:57:00 -0500
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:43:31 +0100
From: Beaumet Christian (beaumet@PT.LU)
Subject: Re: Austin Listies
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:42:11 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@CS.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: SWANS - not 4AD
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:30 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (R.Clemens@UNIVERSITY-MANAGEMENT.SALFORD.AC.UK)
Subject: Shelleyann Orphan
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:59:28 -0600
From: Tony Renner (popdork@MO.NET)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:32:48 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:29:14 -0500
From: lobsterman (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:22:21 -0800
From: seeing life through a drained pint glass (puppet@ECOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Austin Listies
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:41:19 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Request for info. (Non 4AD)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:44:24 -0800
From: Dermot Barry (dermot@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Trenchmouth Info
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:54:28 EST
From: Matthew T DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:17:22 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:42:27 -0500
From: Roger Mrazek (RogBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Dewdrops update 1/97
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:46:36 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Nigel Grierson
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:59:52 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:18:34 PST
From: Jason Hull (jason@HUGHES.NET)
Subject: New Breathless cd


I'm sorry if this has been discussed already, but I saw a listing
for a new Breathless album called 'Midsummernights Dream'.  It
said it was a compilation.  My question is, does it exist, and
does anyone know what tracks are on it?

Jason

jason@hughes.net

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:56:46 -0800
From: Matthew Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: Re: GARLANDS import CD wanted!


On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Tony Renner wrote:

> Help!  I'm looking for a copy of Cocteau Twins GARLANDS import CD (the
> version with extra tracks).
>
> I'm looking for a friend who's willing to pay $20 (and who probably has
> stuff to trade).
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Tony

oh man when i was living in california about two weeks ago, a local store
had it for eight bucks used....bad timing :)
Matt

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:30:42 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: GARLANDS import CD wanted!


I was sure this was still available through the 4AD mail order service.

~blu

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:06:51 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: [p] and [c] 1996 4AD


1996 was the first year 4AD made a consistent effort to put a [p] & [c]
note on the back cover.  All the Lush releases, some of the scheer ones
and Paladins sported copyright notices on the back art.  Some like HNIA
didn't while the "Sliding & Diving" EP didn't credit 4AD with a
copyright credit at all.  Sorry, just being anal-obsessive...

Also, I was watching "Twister" earlier this week and noticed that
whoever typed up the end credits got Tanya Donelly's name wrong.  It was
spelled "Donnely".

************************
|    Jeff G. Keibel    |
| Scarborough, Ontario |
|        CANADA        |
************************

e mail:  redshift@interlog.com

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:46:57 +0100
From: nm/zenana@BEKAERT.COM
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 High to all listies:

I'm thrilled, excited, and more than happy to announce, that as from
March 1997, B.N.E. Records will be officialy the 4AD and Beggars Banquet
licencees in Israel.

I've been on this list for several months now (although not so active),
enjoying the debates as well as the information passed.
As label manager for these labels, I hope I will be able to contribute
more to this list, and of course to bring this brilliant music to as e
many people as possible (even in a small territory as Israel).

Peace & love to all,

Eitan.

eitan@netvision.net.il

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:50:31 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: cultural sophistication.....


I have a question for all of you listies...

What does it mean to be "thislisty"? Does it apply to music only?  What
about movies.. or works of art.. or authors? Or mass marketed pop-faddish
items?

I started thinking about this the other day, when I was posting about Lois.
I couldn't think of any possible way in which she was "thislisty" and yet
I know that a great many of you would enjoy her music.

There are other things as well.  Can we discuss the Brothers Quay's
animation *simply because* HNIA used them in their videos?  What about
retro pop 60's furniture being discussed in relation to, say, the Amorphous
Body Study cd by Stereolab? Don't get me wrong, the main discussion here
should be, above all else, music. But authors of tangent discussions
shouldn't have to feel that they have to justify their letter content
because it is not "thislisty"..

It has been my experience in meeting people from this list (one of which in
particular is one of my best ohio-an friends of all!) that we have a
certain cultural sophistication.  I can best describe this with the
following scenario... If you met Person A and Person A *loved* HNIA or RHP
with all of their innate being, would you not be utterly shocked if they
also adored COPS and the Macarena and ultra-NEON colors and Jim Carrey
movies?

I am not trying to be a cultural elitist.  I am merely pointing out that as
4AD music is so idiosyncratic, the people who enjoy and revel in it very
likely have the same taste in say, clothes, books, movies, etc. I think it
would be an interesting set of topics to explore.  Granted, there are
different subsets within 4AD fandom.. space-rockers, swirly romantic gothic
types, popsters.. each  having carved out their own niche... But still, I
think that when you meet someone who is a 4AD fan, you expect a certain
level of cultural sophisitication.  It's almost like a secret password,
right? "Oooh, *you* like the Cocteaus as well, do you?"

This is just me rambling. What do you think?

cheers,
lisaroo-ina svetlana of the southern roos...

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:38:47 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)


here is the live series tapes recorded during the '96 tour:::::::

"These tapes were recorded by the band themselves each night.  Quality
varies.  All tapes are 45-90 minutes long"

1996
8-21  Boston
first show on tour   Includes guests Mr. & Mrs. Velocity Hopkins
8-22  Hoboken
first appearance of "Jonah" written that afternoon
8-23  NYC
loud guitar, includes harmonica jam "I'm tired and my soul needs restin' "
8-24  Phiuladelphia
"if july"  "when blues are empty"
8-25  Washington D.C.
long fin killie play on "this world is not my home" sounds great; Karin sings
"the well"
8-27  Atlanta
sound sucks, no vocals, all distorted
8-29  Austin
good vibrations were all around this evening
8-30  Houston
good mix, loud organ, seven songs
8-31  Dallas
vocals by WD, acoustic guitar set and much acclaimed famous puppet show
9-02  Albuquerque
labor day dance party
9-03  Phoenix
sad night, sad songs, reflections of sorrow in lake regret
9-04  San Diego
"why" by Yoko Ono; sound is great
9-05  L.A.
audience tape -- sounds tinny; includes in-store at Rhino Rec.- sounds great
9-06  L.A.
sound is really great  "if july"
9-07  San Francisco
sound is bad
9-09  Portland, OR
the band plays "torso" and reggae version of "cornfield"
9-10  Seattle
distorted yet great
9-13  Minneapolis
Karin drunk on wine knocks stuff over - sounds great
9-14  Chicago
drum solo by Dion;  Karin sings "cornfield" acapella
9-20  Detroit
long show includes science fair
9-21  Cinncinatti
empty sound - no audience

$5 ea.

send check (payable to: Davin Brainard) or cash addressed to:

timeSTEREO
PO Bx. 531671
Livonia, Michigan
48153-1671


**PLEASE NOTE:  Davin has already had a few orders for "entire sets"...this
does of course take time to make the copies etc etc....so please be patient
with him if you end up ordering more than one or two, and of course with any
large order.  He is also spending time getting a 2nd Record Collector store
opened so he's doing what he can!!!!!!   Thanks for understanding!***



and from me:

sorry this took a few extra days to get this posted....but it wasn't easy to
sit down and type all this   I didn't realize just what I was getting
into....

I also have the 4AD mail order catalog update "insert" with all the new stuff
and deletions.  If there is enough interest, I suppose I could transcribe
that too....but gosh there better be some suckin' up!!   ;)

love ya all~

~blu

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:52:48 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: timeSTEREO current catalog pt1.


Sorry this is so late in coming, but as promised, here is the most recent
catalog from timeSTEREO given to me by Davin just over a week ago:

Noise Camp
-real kids, noise, camp
Noise Camp Remix
-noise, drum machine, kids
Grape Rave
-electronic noise, science
time Remixes
-fast sounds in noise style
ESP Beetles
-tapes of sound
ESP Family
-communist miner folk songs 1930
ESP Summer
-summer sound w/ Ian & Warren
time Piano
-avant garde piano, abstract style
Pail Saint
-sound from loops and sound
Dragon God "Broken Time"
-god bullies + princess dragon-mom
Dragon God "More Time"
-it's better
3/4 time
-swing, polka's, country 1951-1962 tapes
LIVE ESP
ESP Beetles Live Freakout Tapes Edit
Hearing Trumpet "Sleepy Lagoon"
-tapes, lp's, noise
New Grape
-noise + girl = pop
His Name Is Alive
-mexico, live, ect. sound
Beat Bandit
-little princess ambient home record
War Machine
-live show free noise rock
Communist Guitar
-warrens brother recorded at guardshack at factory
Your Golden
-little princess, fast sound
Godzuki "first one"
-re-issue six song four track
Godzuki "free wade"
-avante garde saxophone plays godzuki tape
*********NOTE!!!!***  (this is also now avail. on CD!!!  contact timeSTEREO
for pricing)
No Credit
-producer of mystic moog orchestra makes noise tape
Cooper time
-alice cooper tribute    ESP Beetles, United Friendly, Kentucky Ham, Little
Princess,
  Denise, Hearing Trumpet,....more  A.C interview
Little Princess "in a people house"
- free noise rock turns to noise tapes
Live OHMS
-Scientific tapes + extra sounds
Michigan's Finest
- his name is alive, 10 songs, nice!
Great Lakes State Blues
-his name is alive live concert at michigan
Destroy All Monsters "Grow Live Monsters"  "Backyard Monstertube"
- 2 tapes by this 1975 band
Man Machine "Haulin' Ass"
- no waves
Control Pane; "technological l.p."
- electronic


time Machine
- one hour tape of some princess dragon-mom
UFO Doctor
- PD-M video  three movies on one tape  UFO Dr., Wrestle time, the whale that
became a star

e.p.'s ($4 ea)
Melody Farm
-his name is alive/little princess 7"  old time song and modern sound
Jubilee
ESP Family
- 4 songs , 1930's union workers records
ESP Beetles  "the world on time"
-one side 45 fast sound, noise rock tape loop
FAB.44  "majic on the moonlight"
-old style industrial beat mach. noise
****NOTE!!!   CD available !  ::::::$10.00

Butter Cake incense   $1.00   smells like real food!
(this actually does smell really good!!!)

t's shirts!
choose timeSTEREO logo or noise camp design   super colors     XL  $10.00

3 books
ask us about our three books

Control Panel 12"
-technological 12"   $7.00
(I was told this is in fact different than the material on the tape mentioned
above)

Princess Dragon-Mom
"library girl" 45  $4.00
"Slow Poke"  CD  loud tapes, 50 min.  $10.00
"Real Folk Blues" cass.   Japan Import on G.R.O.S.S.  no easy time  $10.00


MORE TAPES:
The Crash
- free punk rock
Brown Cuts Neighbors "greatest monkey band"
tapes, edit, music, words
Kentucky Ham  "moonshine monster"

**************************C O M I N G   S O O
N********************************
Noise Camp video

Costes cassette

Robot Rick video

Free Wade CD (this is actually now available ---contact for price)

Little Princess cass, CD

B.B.B.E cassette

The Whales cassette

New Grape CD



&*&#%(*&$%#&$(&(#$&(&#$(&#$&(#&$(&

tapes = $5.00 ppd USA
please make checks payable to Davin Brainard, or send cash

timeSTEREO
PO Bx. 531671
Livonia, Michigan  48153-1671
USA



Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:13:20 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Lois Maffeo/Trenchmouth


> AND, for those of you who don't know Trenchmouth, they are this very
>  dubby band (at least there final album, The Broadcasting System was),
>  VERY VERY VERY much in the vain of Too Pure....with the wacky bass lines
>  and sampled drums and all that.  Anyone into Laika (except Trenchmouth
>  has a male singer) and Long Fin Killie should definitely check out this
>  band!  You would not be dissappointed at all...
>  Always available for useless info,

Not useless one bit!  You may have mentioned in the previous post that I
accidentaly deleted before this one, but can you give Trenchmouth's label?
 Where they're from, favorite fruits, partial discography, etc.

I don't care what anyone says, it's damn cold.

jason


srilank@aol.com


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:32:30 -0500
From: "the bus that couldn't slow down" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Horseland?


Last week, I spotted a 12" by a band called Horseland in a used record
store. The only reason I took a closer look at it was because I thought,
"Hmm, the sleeve looks kinda v23" and sure enough, the sleeve *was* done by
v23. The label was Red Rhino, and since I'm drawing a blank on both the band
and the label, does anyone (maybe a v23 obsessive) know what this is like?


Larry

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:14:22 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Muses Live to Tape & Freeloader released...


I received both the new Throwing Muses releases from Rycodisk today!

(they're faster than they say they are...)

The six live-at-the-studio recordings on "Live to Tape" (VRCD 0354) are
very good. Kristin is introducing every track by saying it's title... No
hand-clapping between the songs. I hope they will release more bootlegs
like this. This record has no sleeve - just a plastic+white paper envelope
with a small blue - girl with a rope - sticker to close the thing. Total
playing time: 22.09 (but you can play it more than one time)

The extra tracks on the Freeloader cd are worth buying the record for, I
like the 'Live Remix' version of "Take"... Does anybody know why 4AD isn't
releasing this one?


Get those small, round pieces of silver stuff, plastic and ink at:



And a Happy New Year to you all!

(I know - a bit late - but this is my first 4AD-L posting this year ;-)


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, January 17, 1997
... efdee@luna.nl
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee/Catalogue/4AD.html


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:21:25 -0800
From: Eric (edusolel@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....


I've noticed similarities from some of my friends who like obscure
music.  But I think it stems from the fact that we are malcontent with
popular music and it basically branches out to popular culture
(oxymoron? you make the call) in general.  So it does take a little work
to find the music, books, films, etc. you truly enjoy, but it makes
life, and you, much more interesting.

        -Eric
        (still trying to synthesize my love for Throwing Muses
        and Chris Farley movies)


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:57:00 -0500
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: Re: Lois Maffeo/Trenchmouth


>
>jason
>
>
>srilank@aol.com

god damn the sun is one of the most depressing, cynical songs i've ever
heard.  and i love it. haven't listened to that album in a long time.
think i will now.

scott

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
scott anderson




                      sanderson@sbra.com
                  humgiant@user1.channel1.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:43:31 +0100
From: Beaumet Christian (beaumet@PT.LU)
Subject: (no subject)


I live in Luxemburg and I would really like to know where I could
buy the GUSGUS LP!!!!!!!!
I simply can`t find it anywhere! So I would be very thankful to get a
tip!!!!!
write to :beaumet@pt.lu


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:42:11 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@CS.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Austin Listies


i'm here!

most of the 4ad fans i know have unsubbed from 4ad-l...

>Hi,
>
>Back online after a while, but now with a new location: Austin, TX!
>
>I=B4d like to know which listies are from this city!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pepe
>*************************************************
>'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
>                               The Sundays
>*************************************************


=2E...............................................................
john roseborough                     mailto:jrose@cs.utexas.edu

Job Hero Song Hour, Herb Go Oh Sojourn, Rob Urge John Oh So,
Rob Jones Hog Hour.


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:30 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (R.Clemens@UNIVERSITY-MANAGEMENT.SALFORD.AC.UK)
Subject: SWANS - not 4AD


As a few people have mentioned them recently just thought I'd point
you all to the SWANS home page


It lists all the forthcoming releases since the last record was the
last! Gira is after what little money I have left. Talking of being
after money, check out the various things for sale, very odd people?!

Richard

Richard Clemens
Academic Division (Student/Institutional Services)
University of Salford, Allerton Building,
Frederick Road, Salford M6 6PU
0161 736 6541 x235



Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:59:28 -0600
From: Tony Renner (popdork@MO.NET)
Subject: Shelleyann Orphan


Is anyone on the list looking for Shelleyan Orphan's WAKING UP promo-only EP
on Columbia?  The tracks are:  Burst, Dead Cat, Supernature on a
Superhighway, Late Night, Shatter, Summer Flies, Cavalry of Cloud, &
Southern Bess (A Field Holler).

Speaking of things being thislisty, with the Paladins on 4AD would not
Stevie Ray Vaughn then be thislisty?  Just asking. . . .

Tony

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:32:48 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)


On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:38:47 -0500 "Blue Bell's Knoll"
 writes:
is getting this catalog some type of secret mission? ive written and
emailed and i cant get one for the life of me? what decent new release
has this insert? i swear, ill buy it only for that....sorry for the
whining...tom w

>I also have the 4AD mail order catalog update "insert" with all the
>new stuff
>and deletions.  If there is enough interest, I suppose I could
>transcribe
>that too....but gosh there better be some suckin' up!!   ;)
>
>love ya all~
>
>~blu
>


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:29:14 -0500
From: lobsterman (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)


>here is the live series tapes recorded during the '96 tour:::::::
>
>"These tapes were recorded by the band themselves each night.  Quality
>varies.  All tapes are 45-90 minutes long"

(titles of shows deleted)

so these are the shows from '96...so when is this title from?  When I saw
it, I assumed it was part of the 1996 series

Michigan's Finest
- his name is alive, 10 songs, nice!

/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/-
John B. Jones

Internet Confessional: I watch "Boy Meets World" regularly. :|
\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:22:21 -0800
From: seeing life through a drained pint glass (puppet@ECOM.NET)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....


        i agree entirely with you,  there are other things out there (ie:
art, books, etc.) that are at least as beautiful, thought provoking,
interesting.  i also agree that this list should always primarily be about
4ad music, though things you can make an association with,  either real or
just incidental should be treated as just as valid of a thread as any other ...

        for instance where i live in L.A. there is an artist named borodin
that paints the most beautiful works... they could easily be cover art for
any cocteau's, see feel, MBV, etc... type band if you saw them, you would
fall in love too ....

        what do the rest of ya think ?



>There are other things as well.  Can we discuss the Brothers Quay's
>animation *simply because* HNIA used them in their videos?  What about
>retro pop 60's furniture being discussed in relation to, say, the Amorphous
>Body Study cd by Stereolab? Don't get me wrong, the main discussion here
>should be, above all else, music. But authors of tangent discussions
>shouldn't have to feel that they have to justify their letter content
>because it is not "thislisty"..


" i don't need pictures... i have scars to remember you by. "

--mikhail nikolievich


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:41:19 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Austin Listies


>most of the 4ad fans i know have unsubbed from 4ad-l...

Rest assured they'll all come back one day, tail between their legs.

Frank



+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:44:24 -0800
From: Dermot Barry (dermot@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Request for info. (Non 4AD)


hi,

    A friend is looking for a couple of CDs and asked if I could help
him. They are by an outfit called Bubonique who apparentley are signed
to a Newcastle, England, label called Kitchenware. The CDs are : "20
Golden Showers" and "Trance Arse Volume Three". Has anyone heard of
these ? are they still in print ? catalogue numbers ?

    All info is gratefully appreciated.

Dermot

dermot@ix.netcom.com

PS If John Porter is reading this. I got the tapes this week but have
not had a chance to listen to them yet.

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:54:28 EST
From: Matthew T DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Trenchmouth Info


okay, here's the low down on Trenchmouth, as far as i know....

They are four guys from Chicago, i believe.  They broke up, though.
Their last CD "The Broadcasting System" was released in 1996, so they
must have broken up pretty recently, i'm not sure. I think they had 2
albums before this one, or maybe three.  I know that Fred Armisen the
drummer has some sort of mariachi band going now, and all i know about
the other members is that the singer Damon guest sings on the new Lois
EP.  Here's the address for their last CD:

SKENE!
p.o. box 4522, Saint Paul, MN 55104

Surprisingly, though, i found my copy real cheap at Best Buy!

hope this helps...

Matt

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:17:22 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: cultural sophistication.....


> 4AD music is so idiosyncratic, the people who enjoy and revel in it very
> likely have the same taste in say, clothes, books, movies, etc. I think it
> would be an interesting set of topics to explore.  Granted, there are
> different subsets within 4AD fandom.. space-rockers, swirly romantic gothic
> types, popsters.. each  having carved out their own niche... But still, I
> think that when you meet someone who is a 4AD fan, you expect a certain
> level of cultural sophisitication.  It's almost like a secret password,
> right? "Oooh, *you* like the Cocteaus as well, do you?"


mostly i agree with this, but i will not be happy if anyone posts stuff
telling me how great their new clothes are!


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:42:27 -0500
From: Roger Mrazek (RogBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: timeSTEREO current catalog pt2. (HNIA)


Could whoever posted this list of live tapes do so again or please mail me
the list?  I seem to have missed it in the blur of 4AD messages!!!

thanks.

RogBoy


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:46:36 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Dewdrops update 1/97

          rod@loop.com, popepat@aol.com, nelson@apollo.umenfa.maine.edu

Hello all.

It's been a while since I mentioned what's been
going on at Dewdrops Central, so I thought I
should give you all another semi-yearly update.

Dewdrops Releases
-----------------
1996 saw the release of our first vinyl 7" single,
something which was delayed for a number of reasons for
lack of a sleeve. Just about every excuse you can imagine
could be justifiably applied to this matter, both good and
bad, but without wallowing in it, I'm happy to inform you
that we're back on track with a completely redesigned
and much better looking sleeve which will be completely
finished and printed up by the end of this month. It's
really not going to be much-- 1 color plus black printed
as a fold-around at a local cheapo copy center (that's
all we can afford!) but it'll look very nice and suit
the release. By the way, the music is a sample of
everything we've done up to this point, and is therefore
now officially known as the Dewdrops Primer 1996 (having been
called the Sampler or Christmas Sampler before). 4 songs
from Hover, The Moon Seven Times, Elysium and Orange.
Ask for more details or see our webpage.

As many of you know, we have four other releases,
which, coincidentally are by Hover, Elysium and Orange,
plus the one that started it all, Thurtene, which began
as a little 4AD-L tribute to 4AD (cover versions,
what else?). There are only about 200 copies left
of Thurtene, and once they're gone, that's probably it.
We'd much rather invest in new stuff than keep it in print.
We have plenty of our other releases available.

Other Releases
--------------
Having discovered the music of Faye Wong on a recent trip to Hong Kong,
thanks in part to the numerous Faye Wong - Cocteau Twins
connections, we knew we had to offer her material in our
catalog. We currently have a handful of two of her most
recent CDs, Impatience (the one with the Cocteau Twins-written
songs) and Random Thinking (the one with the Cocteau covers).
Since we have so few left and no guarantees that we can order
more, please email me to reserve one. Since these are imports
bought from a distributor, the price is a bit higher than our
other CDs: $15.50, basically at cost.

NEW!
Another album I came across in a small stash of cutouts
very recently is the second For Against album December. I have
only 8 copies of this, and am offering them at a very
reasonable $7 each. If you don't know For Against, and you
like chimey, poppy guitar bands, then you should get to know
them. This album originally came out on IPR ages ago, and as far
as either of us can tell, these are the last CD copies
available anywhere. IPR still has some cassette copies.

Coming up:
We are working on bringing you CDs already out by Luminous Orange,
The Sensualists, Super 31 and others, and I promise to keep
you updated.

Splashed With Many A Speck
--------------------------
This is the title of our upcoming compilation, scheduled for
a March (the month, not the label) release. Two CDs, nearly
30 bands, 97% original material (one band's doing a Lush cover),
over 2 full hours... It's a huge project and a dream come true
for me. It will be the truest statement to date of our mission
to bring you uncommon music. Most of the material is in hand
right now, and we're just waiting on the final few bands who
are competing to be the one who turns in theirs the latest.
Many of the names should be familiar to you:
Scenic, Half String, Alison's Halo, Orange, The Curtain Society,
Faith And Disease, Lanterna, Luminous Orange, The Sensualists,
Love Spirals Downwards, lovesliescrushing;
plus there are others that probably aren't: Starlight Conspiracy
(formerly hover), The Von Trapps (formerly Elysium), Starblind,
Heavenside, Dear Dark Head, Bethany Curve, The Floating House,
Eight Page Story, Super 31, Chicklet, Venus Swirls...
It's all amazing!

Fanzine
-------
If you thought it was a long wait between #14 and #15, then
you're probably wondering where the heck #16 is, since it's been
even longer. The conspiracy of life prevented us from taking
very many big steps forward with this, but half the reviews are
finally done. It's going to be the largest issue we have
ever made, by far, now that we have no restrictions on weight/postage,
so look for 60+ of our characteristic double reviews.
We guarantee to have it out around the end of Winter, if our reviewers
cooperate. Additionally, some new features and faces (maybe literally) will
be making a first appearance. Basically our mission is to review
the best "uncommon music" we're aware of (indiepop, noise, ethereal,
experimental, drone, dreampop, darkwave, ambient) subject to
the limited numbers of CDs we can purchase ourselves, and the gems
we occasionally find in the huge selection of crap that's sent to us
by labels and bands (it's funny how totally inappropriate they can sometimes
be).

Web Page
--------
With all the other stuff going on, this has lowest priority
at the moment. There's no Java, no frames, and only the most
bare essentials that one could put on a webpage. But most of
our information is there somewhere and you CAN preview
an Elysium song from the CD. IUMA has a full song from Orange
as well. If anyone wants to help out with this, I'm sure we
would be eternally grateful. We can't pay you, except in
gratitude, CDs and zine issues, but if you're interested,
contact me by email.

Well, that's about all I can think of... As always,
I'd like to thank you all who have brought us from our
dim beginnings exactly 7 years ago to the
sort of grey state we're at now. It's been tough, but
we're still going, and you can always find us here.

Cheers,

Brant Nelson, owner | editor | reviews
Pat Mannion, associate editor | design | reviews
Rodney Rodruguez, contributing reviewer
Gil Gershman, contributing reviewer
Benny Campa, contributing reviewer


|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <


Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:59:52 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Nigel Grierson



Does anyone know (especially UK listies) if Nigel Grierson
ever released a book of his photographic work or a monograph
or exhibition catalogue of his work? I am trying to work on an
essay for night school on photographic uses for the depiction
of musical ideas. I really have loved alot of Nigel's 23 envelope
photos especially the Cocteau Twins stuff. Any help or
addresses of galleries or offers of selling items welcomed.

Steven

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