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Subject: Re: spain...VERVE...yummy
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:40:26 -0500
From: dan klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:20 +0100
From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" (iboronen@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: a little sale
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:18:02 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Natures Mortes.../Presages
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:40:03 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: a little sale
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:32:38 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: a little sale
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:20:58 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo/Livonia LISTSERV
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:40:43 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Trip-Hop ???
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 04:51:42 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: HNiA - King of Sweet
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:55:14 -0500
From: JRR TOLKIEN (GGNL44A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:27:09 -0800
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:28:42 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Breeders
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:29:41 EST
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Joy division
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:26:39 -0500
From: Christian Hasiewicz (106345.2727@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Nico
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:54:40 PST
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:07:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" (violaine@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:04:54 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: Joy division
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:55:26 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Helleborine
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:38:17 -0500
From: Christian Hasiewicz (106345.2727@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: best of '96
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:43:24 -0500
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo/Livonia LISTSERV
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:53 -0500
From: Famous Goodbye King (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Nico / trip hop
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:23:22 -0500
From: u menya nye sevodnya (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:32:17 -0500
From: "(Amy Winebarger)" (Amy4AD@AOL.COM)

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:40:26 -0500
From: dan klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: spain...VERVE...yummy


On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, James M. Renaud wrote:

>
> **************************** star vein ***********************************
> **************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
> **************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
> **************************************************************************
> "since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
> ***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
> **************************************************************************
> **************************************************************************
>

        speaking of Star Vein, did that interview with HNIA ever
        get put on the site? last time i looked, "darn" was the
        only thing there....



 ***********************************************************************

        "Smash the control images Samsh the control machine"
                          W.S. Burroughs

 ***********************************************************************


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:20 +0100
From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" (iboronen@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies


Heavenly Bodies are defunct band with some 4AD connection.Pinker (or was it
Ullrich) collaborated on earlier DCD albums. Couple songs from their album
"Celestial" on C'est la Mort were produced by Robin Guthrie.
Kinda falls into the class of synth-based "beautiful female ethereal
vocals" bands, above the average. Singer Caroline Seaman appeared on one of
"Heavenly voices" compilations more recently.
Boroda

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:18:02 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: a little sale


nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU wrote:

> 4AD Catalogue 1980-1994 July    $10

Ohhh!  Do you still have this available?  I'll send you US$10 as soon as
I hear back from you.  Thanks, Brant!

Jeff Keibel


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:40:03 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Natures Mortes.../Presages


A question regarding these elusive compilations.....

In regards to Natures Mortes...Still Lives, I was wondering what someone (if
anyone) paid for this in the past few months....just a curiosity

And about Presages (which too is quite rare, but not as Natures Mortes... I
believe), I was wondering since no one had mentioned it recently if anyone
had one that they wished to sell, trade...etc.

thanks!

~blu

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:32:38 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: a little sale


In a message dated 97-01-09 02:30:05 EST, you write:

<< > 4AD Catalogue 1980-1994 July    $10

 Ohhh!  Do you still have this available?  I'll send you US$10 as soon as
 I hear back from you.  Thanks, Brant!
  >>
Why is this so expensive?  I have 4 of them, gave 2 away.  Is this no longer
available?


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:20:58 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: a little sale


><< > 4AD Catalogue 1980-1994 July    $10

> Ohhh!  Do you still have this available?  I'll send you US$10 as soon as
> I hear back from you.  Thanks, Brant!


>Why is this so expensive?  I have 4 of them, gave 2 away.  Is this no longer
>available?

The new "mini-catalogue" up to Nov 1996 lists the catalogue for 2 pounds plus
post and packaging. The whole thing cost me about 3.40 pounds when I got it, so
3.40 at the pound/dollar exchange rate will determine whether $10 is expensive o
 not...

sir h C

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:40:43 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo/Livonia LISTSERV


In a message dated 97-01-08 12:58:16 EST, you write:

<<<About a week ago, someone had mentioned that timeSTEREO was a "cassette
only"
 >label----  well, I'd just like to clarify~
 >timeSTEREO just released a CD ep from Godzuki entitled "FREE WADE"
featuring
 >Wade from Ohms fame on sax throughout the 4 tracks (track #3 is
brilliant!!).

 Does this CD contain the same tracks as the Time Stereo cassette?>>>>

-----NO!!!  it is entirely new and VERY different from the Godzuki we've all
heard so far!!!



<<<<> This was produced in cooperation with the GO SONIC label.

 Any idea how to contact GO SONIC? I wrote them after I got that 'Go Sonic'
 10-track 7", but never heard back from them.>>>>>

-----errrr  uh...sorry Frank...not a whole lotta info on Go Sonic! at the
moment.  I'll see what Davin knows.  I'm keeping busy myself keeping up with
timeSTEREO much less anyone else!  ;)


<<<<<>As far as a HNIA tour in '97......  they planning another extensive
tour of
 >the west coast starting "soon".  Also 2 follow up ep's to "Universal
 >Frequencies" will be released in the coming months.

 On 4AD? Or on Time Stereo?
 >>>>>>

the 2 follow-up ep's will be a 4AD release.  supposedly all recorded and
mixed etc...ready to put to production when the "go" is given from those at
head-office.

<<<<< >Someone also posted on the Livonia list about the...

 Is this list dedicated to the music scene? If so I'd like to hear how I can
 subscribe, even if I live about 5,000 miles away.
 >>>>>

as someone commented on the list the other day, it's a pretty inactive list,
but try this to subscribe:   send mail to   listserv@apocalypse.org     in
the subject and body type "subscribe livonia".  to post to the Livonia list,
send to:  livonia@apocalypse.org.  anyone feel free to correct this info
should it be wrong, it's been awhile since I sub'ed.   :)

<<<<< Frank

 +++++++++++++++
 Frank Brinkhuis
 frankbri@pi.net
 +++++++++++++++

  >>>>>>>


best regards,   ~blu


p.s.   personal for Frank here ----  Davin says you're a pretty cool guy who
is very supportive of the local bands and was very suprised to find out you
speak very good english!!


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 04:51:42 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Trip-Hop ???


---from Jens:

> > http://www.msnbc.com/specials/triphop/splash.asp.
>
> I took a look at the site.
>
> The writing is lame, exactly what you'd expect from the mainstream
> news media covering something "underground" and "happening"
> and "cool".

Wow, so there was actual writing buried in there?  After two screens of
pretty graphics that took forever to load, I was beginning to think it
was one of those puzzle boxes which hold a series of smaller boxes
inside, which just gave the MSN folks time to scan my hard drive for
illegal software while I was logged into their site.  Not that I'm
paranoid or anything...

On a completely unrelated note, while I was at my parents' place for the
Xmas holidays, I retrieved (among other things) my copy of the fourth Dr.
Death sampler from C'est la Mort, _The Marvels of Insect Life_.  Although
there's a lot of crap on there, there are several really good songs,
including the only tolerable song ever recorded by The Millions.  The one
that caught my eye this time was a band called Critical Mass.  When this
comp came out in 1991, the names Margaret Fiedler and Andy Ramsey meant
nothing to me, but this time, they reached off the CD booklet and smacked
me.  Critical Mass was Lincoln Fong on vocals & guitar and Russel Fong on
guitar, with Fiedler (Moonshake/Laika) on bass and Ramsey (Stereolab) on
drums.  Truthfully, it's pretty bad, kinda like a slow, bluesy Buzzcocks
in 6/8.  Kind of interesting, though, from a *cough* historical
perspective.  Equally weird is the inclusion of Magnetic Fields' "Crowd
of Drifters".  Well, maybe not so much the inclusion, but the fact that
they're referred to as "Ephe Merrit" and "Susan Maronno".  Weird.

---Jeremy 

"No noise suggests no bees."


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:55:14 -0500
From: JRR TOLKIEN (GGNL44A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: HNiA - King of Sweet


      For any caring and sympathetic person out there...
I was looking for a copy of His Name is Alive - King of Sweet. It
being 2 and a half years after the fact of its 2000 copy limited
edition release, I know it is probably a desperate and worthless
thing to even send this email. Never stopped me before. So... if
anyone just happens to have a copy that they can get a hold of for me
or one that they will part with, I would be most appreciative if you
sent email to me personally about it. No need to clutter the list up
with needless mail about my need. Thanks for your time in this matter
of desperation.
      Ryan (GGNL44A@Prodigy.com)


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:27:09 -0800
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan


I have the promo-only Waking-Up compilation

1. Burst
2. Dead Cat
3. Supernature On a Superhighway
4. Late Night
5. Shatter
6. Cavalary of Cloud
7. Southern Bess (A Field Holler)

Please send trade list or make offer.

Alex
--

Alex Wolfson
Associate Director
Columbia Institute for Tele-Information
809 Uris Hall
New York, NY 10027-7004
212/854-4222
212/854-4368 (direct)
212/932-7816 (fax)
ajw6@columbia.edu

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:28:42 -0500
From: kanga and lisa roo (roo@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan


>Can anyone help, please? I'm looking for the CD of Shelleyan Orphan's
>Helleborine, or any of her singles. I'm getting desperate as the years go
>by without any result... Also, has anyone heard what Caroline Crawley is
>doing now? I heard rumours that she is recording with Boris of the Cure.
>Can anyone confirm this?

Ah, poor soul. The torment you must be going through!  I think there are
about sixty people on this list in your same predicament.  A copy of
Helleborine is one of those urban legends that old grey listies tell their
grandchildren about.  In short, you'd have more luck finding a copy than
getting Beavis and friend off the airwaves.

As to Caroline Crawley.. last I heard she was engaged to same Boris of Cure
noteriety (sic) and they were set to honeymoon in India.. maybe someone
else can provide more of an update?

Oh, and if you *do* find a copy and an extra one, give me a ring. I, too
have been searching for quite a while.

lisa anne of the southern roos.


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:29:41 EST
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Breeders


  According to Melody Maker, Kim Deal has shown off the new
look Breeders at a club in Santa Cruz. Jim MacPherson is still
present with three new people on guitarists and bassist, includin
one called Katy who has taken ove Kelley Deals vocal duties.
Anyone able to confirm or elaborate on this or whether this is
permanent. Thanks,

Steve.
s.a.hipkiss@bham.ac.uk

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:26:39 -0500
From: Christian Hasiewicz (106345.2727@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Joy division


Hi

Yesterday I heard of  a CD which is a hommage to Joy Division, including
Lows Version of "Transmission". Is the rest of the CD as good as this song?

                                            CHRISTIAN HASIEWICZ

                106345.2727@Compuserve.Com


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:54:40 PST
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Nico


>Nico's first solo album ("Chelsea Girls") is a bit of a forgotten
> masterpiece - all the Velvet Underground except for Moe Tucker played
> on it, and about half the songs on it were written by Reed, Cale and
> Morrison in various combinations.  "It Was a Pleasure Then" is
> actually a VU song which that band never recorded.

I like this album too but I her later album "the marble index" is not only her b
st
work, but is also john cale's best work as musical producer. totally different f
om
"chelsea girls", the songs all have a gothic eastern europe feel as nico is sawi
g
two chords on a strange sounding harmonica, and cale adds his usual mix of scary
horns and strings. her voice is already thicker than on "chelsea girls" which on
y
adds to the atmosphere. "roses in the snow" is the *the* song for a cold, dark
afternoon.

-naor- T.L


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:07:57 EST
From: "C.K. Coney" (violaine@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins


On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:53:46 -0500 "(Amy Winebarger)" 
>Hi everyone! I'm amy from livonia and am new to the listserv.

Hi, Amy from Livonia,

Would that be the Livonia in Michigan? So, answer me this: WarrenDeFever,
madman or genius?

Thank you,

Carol aka Violaine

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:04:54 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: shelleyan orphan


Ah, _Helleborine_.  This is humorous.  Four years ago as I was just
discovering Shelleyan Orphan a friend of mine GAVE me his copy of
_Helleborine_ as he didn't like it.

not to gloat

jason eugene

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:55:26 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Joy division


In a message dated 97-01-09 13:46:14 EST, you write:

<< Yesterday I heard of  a CD which is a hommage to Joy Division, including
 Lows Version of "Transmission". Is the rest of the CD as good as this song?
>>

If you're talking about about the tribute cd, it is ok.  Low, Moby, and
Codeine are the best on the album.  Some of the "punked" up versions are ok
if you're into that.
Now, if you are talking about Low being as good as the song, definately
YES!!!!
Go get everything Low has ever done and just mellow out.
If you want a good (great) Joy Division tribute cd, go out and get
"Ceremony," a really good tribute album with Ikon, Opium Den, Lycia, etc.  It
is much more like the Low part of the other.


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:38:17 -0500
From: Christian Hasiewicz (106345.2727@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Helleborine


>>Can anyone help, please? I'm looking for the CD of Shelleyan Orphan's
>>Helleborine, or any of her singles. I'm getting desperate as the years go
>>by without any result... Also, has anyone heard what Caroline Crawley is
>>doing now? I heard rumours that she is recording with Boris of the Cure.
>>Can anyone confirm this?

>Ah, poor soul. The torment you must be going through!  I think there are
>about sixty people on this list in your same predicament.  A copy of
>Helleborine is one of those urban legends that old grey listies tell their
>grandchildren about.  In short, you'd have more luck finding a copy than
>getting Beavis and friend off the airwaves.

I havent got one, too: I have two of them! If somebodys interested, make an
offer!

                           CHRISTIAN HASIEWICZ

        106345.2727@Compuserve.com

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:43:24 -0500
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: best of '96


> Where are the shoegazers now?  Are any bands still
> faithful to the shoegazing movement?  I miss bands like Slowdive and the
> earlier Lush stuff.

    lovesliescrushing, alison's halo, shiFt, nightblooms,


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:53 -0500
From: Famous Goodbye King (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo/Livonia LISTSERV

              "BluBelKnol@aol.com" at Jan 9, 97 03:40:43 am

> as someone commented on the list the other day, it's a pretty inactive list,
> but try this to subscribe:   send mail to   listserv@apocalypse.org     in
> the subject and body type "subscribe livonia".  to post to the Livonia list,
> send to:  livonia@apocalypse.org.  anyone feel free to correct this info
> should it be wrong, it's been awhile since I sub'ed.   :)

it is a very quiet, we need some rowdy people
that talk to much
to make a scandal
anything :^>

it's actually a majordomo list
so

mail majordomo@apocalypse.org
and in the BODY write:
subscribe livonia your@email.here

cool :^>
reid

ps. anyone heard of the miss alans?


Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:23:22 -0500
From: u menya nye sevodnya (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Nico / trip hop


Andrew wrote:

> Nico's first solo album ("Chelsea Girls") is a bit of a forgotten
> masterpiece - all the Velvet Underground except for Moe Tucker played
> on it, and about half the songs on it were written by Reed, Cale and
> Morrison in various combinations.  "It Was a Pleasure Then" is
> actually a VU song which that band never recorded.

That makes sense - it's the noisiest, most VU-sounding thing on the album.

 And there's
> "These Days", by Jackson Browne, one of my favourite songs ever,
> which perfectly encapsulates all those feelings of regret and
> disillusionment most of us have occasionally.

Well said. It pretty much oozes world-weariness.

>And the Dylan song
> mentioned above, and a few other good ones.

Such as another Jackson Browne song, "Somewhere There's A Feather" and a Tim
Hardin cover. The only thing Nico didn't like about this album were the
flute parts, put there surreptitiously by Tom Wilson (the guy who stuck the
electric guitar and drums on Simon & Garfunkel's "The Sounds of Silence" -
sneaky guy). She said there ought to be a button on every stereo with which
you could cut out the flute bits.

Jens wrote:

[MSNBC trip-hop page]
>The RealAudio 2.0 samples sound ludicrously garbled, as though some one
>had run them through a whole bank of Kevin Shields' effect pedals.
>Actually kind of a neat sound but hardly recognizable as the original
>songs...

The Eno sound clip (from _Music for Airports_) sounds like a player piano or
an organ grinder...



Larry

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:32:17 -0500
From: "(Amy Winebarger)" (Amy4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins


hello again...

In a message dated 97-01-09 15:37:29 EST, you write:

<< Would that be the Livonia in Michigan? So, answer me this: WarrenDeFever,
 madman or genius?

yes, i live in the suburban hell of livonia, michigan. was away at school for
2 years and am now back and trying to keep up with the music scene.

as far as warren goes, i've never talked to him but saw him at the record
collector a few weeks ago when i was buying a robot. he is a very intruiging
person who keeps to himself. so, i've heard anyway. i imagine him to be a
combination of madman and genius.

bye now,
amy



 Carol aka Violaine


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