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Subject: Low
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:45:36 -0500
From: Susan F Curran (warped@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: Unsubscribing
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:50:34 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses promo CD
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:59:16 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Dara * Lucinda Bright
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:26:14 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Low
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:25:20 -0800
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Nico
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:53:15 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: tarnation...tarnished?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:05:25 -0500
From: august spies (x6lear@LAB2.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dara/Time Stereo
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:58:54 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Uns*bscribing
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:41:56 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: low, finally, where?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:11:31 -0800
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: Re: tarnation...tarnished?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:45:23 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: spain...VERVE...yummy
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:24:56 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: a little sale
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:26:49 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Trip-Hop ???
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:04:27 -0500
From: Christian Carollo (newslist@GINA.COM)
Subject: Re: low, finally, where?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:16:13 -0500
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: shelleyan orphan
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:17:46 -0500
From: "Mr. Kevin Wallace" (kevin.wallace@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: Re: Seely lee cliche eh?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:41:51 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: a little sale
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:07:58 EST
From: "ALLEN,MATTHEW JAMES,MR" (BUCP@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA)
Subject: cocteau twins
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:53:46 -0500
From: "(Amy Winebarger)" (Amy4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Trip-Hop ???
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:31:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: tarnation...tarnished?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:02:10 -0500
From: My Razorblade Suitcase weighs Sixteen Stone

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:45:36 -0500
From: Susan F Curran (warped@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: Low

              digest processor" at Jan 7, 97 00:00:32 am

> it has been alleged that there is/will be a Low/Lois split single.  ANyone
> have any info?

Nothing specific, but the last time I saw Lois, Alan Sparhawk was playing
2nd guitar, so it doesn't seem too strange.

> PS-I also have the video of "Over the Ocean"--are there any others?

I've also seen a beautiful one for "Shame"

   -Susan


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:50:34 -0500
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Unsubscribing

              digest processor" at Jan 8, 97 00:01:12 am

Hello,

I too have been trying to unsubscribe for some time.  Except it hasn't
worked for me.  And the person who sent the message "UNSUBSCRIBE *" to
the list, well, that was a bit cryptic and not too helpful.

If someone has unsubscribing instructions, could you please send them to
me?  I've been on the list for several years now, and my own FAQ (for the
Hopkins 4ad-l) is hopelessly out-of-date.

Thanks,
Dave

PS Obl. 4ad content: Anyone know where to get the 1996 v23 calendar
anymore?  Any word of a 1997 v23 calendar?  I still hang my non-functional
1993 4ad calendar with pride.

--
David B Hanna                           dhanna@mail.sas.upenn.edu
University of Pennsylvania              http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dhanna


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:59:16 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Throwing Muses promo CD


1997 brings a special offer from Rykodisc and Throwing Muses:
Live To Tape, a six-song EP featuring otherwise unavailable live
versions of:

"Shark"
"Ruthie's Knocking"
"Night Driving"
"Serene"
"Bright Yellow Gun"
"Bea"

...for the very low price of $4.98 plus postage and handling.
Quantities are limited, so order it now! We cannot guarantee
availability beyond the 22nd, but if there are any left, we will make
them available. All orders received by Wednesday, January 22nd will be
shipped the following Monday, the 27th. Allow 5-7 days for shipping.

Follow this URL for ordering details:
www.rykodisc.com/3/features/muses/

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:26:14 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Dara * Lucinda Bright


In a message dated 97-01-05 06:42:58 EST, you write:

<< I believe some of you might know who Dara is. She appeared on HNIA on the
 "All Virgo's Are Mad" comp, was part of the Dirteaters, and worked on the
 "New Grape" tape (according to ~~blubelknol).

 Somebody may know about "Lucinda Bright" (other than being the name of a
 typeface).

 So ... the listings for Dr. Watson's Pub (Philadelphia) have a line that
 reads:

      1/9 Dara * Lucinda Bright

 (1/9 meaning Jan 9)  This is just something I saw in a paper, so I don't
 know anything more about this gig.

 ---

 Ob4AD: I'm looking forward to seeing another his name is alive concert.
        Anybody know the status of the tour slated for early '97?


 --- Lucius Kwok  (lucius@astro.temple.edu) ---
        (lucius@res50.resnet.upenn.edu)
        http://astro.temple.edu/~lucius

  >>


I'll ask Davin next time I see him, but last I heard on Dara (approx. 3
months ago) was that she was moving to the Ann Arbor area (outskirts of
Detroit for out-of-staters) from New York and that she wasn't very musically
active with local acts.  Last known project was the New Grape cassette which
was being considered for a CD release.

About a week ago, someone had mentioned that timeSTEREO was a "cassette only"
label----  well, I'd just like to clarify~
timeSTEREO just released a CD ep from Godzuki entitled "FREE WADE" featuring
Wade from Ohms fame on sax throughout the 4 tracks (track #3 is brilliant!!).
 This was produced in cooperation with the GO SONIC label...but is NOT the
first CD release from timeSTEREO.
The first being of course the 4-track "Slow Poke IN.12" by Princess
Dragon-Mom.

Someone also posted on the Livonia list about the slow response on timeSTEREO
orders and inquiries, and rest assured that Davin is trying to keep up the
pace...especially with the 20tape set of live HNIA performaces from the past
tour.

For those waiting on a timeSTEREO catalog and cannot wait on the local post
office to come through, I will try to post the entire new catalog Davin gave
to me this last weekend.

As far as a HNIA tour in '97......  they planning another extensive tour of
the west coast starting "soon".  Also 2 follow up ep's to "Universal
Frequencies" will be released in the coming months.

If you can't wait for more Defever....  be sure to order the Control Panel
(sci-electro noise ala Warren) tape and 12" from timeSTEREO

order via fax (c/o The Record Collector) at: 1.810.473.8350
(recent catalog to follow in a day or two)      :)

~blu


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:25:20 -0800
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Low


On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Susan F Curran wrote:

> > it has been alleged that there is/will be a Low/Lois split single.  ANyone
> > have any info?
>
> Nothing specific, but the last time I saw Lois, Alan Sparhawk was playing
> 2nd guitar, so it doesn't seem too strange.

Lois opened for Low (along with Modest Mouse) when I saw them last year.
Near the end of Lois' set, Alan came out and sang with her on one song.
Maybe this was the would-be single.  his were mainly backing vocals.

aaron


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:53:15 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Nico

              sevodnya" at Jan 7, 97 07:06:02 pm

 u menya nye sevodnya  wrote on Tue, 7 Jan 1997
 (Subject: Nico)
 > Someone mentioned Bettie Serveert's version of Dylan's "I'll Keep
 > It With Mine" - Nico's version is good too (Dylan considered Nico
 > to have 'stolen' the song from him and so never sings it himself)

 This is the song Dylan actually wrote for Nico, isn't it? (One of
 those Bob Legends - sat down and dashed the thing off in ten minutes
 for her, during that period in the sixties when he was churning out
 fantastic songs at an amazing rate).  Dylan's own version is on
 "Biograph", and I think it's only a publishers' demo.  Not one of his
 finest songs, but not the worst one either (even by the standards of
 his sixties work).

 Nico's first solo album ("Chelsea Girls") is a bit of a forgotten
 masterpiece - all the Velvet Underground except for Moe Tucker played
 on it, and about half the songs on it were written by Reed, Cale and
 Morrison in various combinations.  "It Was a Pleasure Then" is
 actually a VU song which that band never recorded.  And there's
 "These Days", by Jackson Browne, one of my favourite songs ever,
 which perfectly encapsulates all those feelings of regret and
 disillusionment most of us have occasionally.  And the Dylan song
 mentioned above, and a few other good ones.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:05:25 -0500
From: august spies (x6lear@LAB2.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: tarnation...tarnished?


i never quite remember what the outcome
of the paula/tarnation split was...
the 4ad little catalog thing says that their new
album is coming soon and was wondering if she
was doing her own thing (and if so what..) or tarnation
was still tarnation with her..

help is appreciated. thanks!

spiral


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:58:54 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Dara/Time Stereo


Blu wrote:

>About a week ago, someone had mentioned that timeSTEREO was a "cassette only"
>label----  well, I'd just like to clarify~
>timeSTEREO just released a CD ep from Godzuki entitled "FREE WADE" featuring
>Wade from Ohms fame on sax throughout the 4 tracks (track #3 is brilliant!!).

Does this CD contain the same tracks as the Time Stereo cassette?


> This was produced in cooperation with the GO SONIC label.

Any idea how to contact GO SONIC? I wrote them after I got that 'Go Sonic'
10-track 7", but never heard back from them.


>As far as a HNIA tour in '97......  they planning another extensive tour of
>the west coast starting "soon".  Also 2 follow up ep's to "Universal
>Frequencies" will be released in the coming months.

On 4AD? Or on Time Stereo?


>Someone also posted on the Livonia list about the...

Is this list dedicated to the music scene? If so I'd like to hear how I can
subscribe, even if I live about 5,000 miles away.

Frank

+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:41:56 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Uns*bscribing


David B Hanna confesses:
>If someone has unsubscribing instructions, could you please send them to
>me?  I've been on the list for several years now, and my own FAQ (for the
>Hopkins 4ad-l) is hopelessly out-of-date.

Apologies if I sound incredulous, but how can you have been on the list
for more than a month and *not know* where to find the current FAQ? I and
others have sent the address dozens if not hundreds of times:
   http://www.milhoan.com/music/4AD_FAQ.html
It describes what to do if the usual signoff command doesn't work, if
your return address has changed since you subscribed. Usually you'll have
to get the postmaster at your site ("postmaster@....") to send a special
command to the listserv on your behalf.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:11:31 -0800
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: low, finally, where?


does anyone know where i could find a copy of low's "Finally" e.p.?

until today i didn't even know it existed, but now my life isn't complete
without it! :)

thanks,
--phil


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:45:23 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: tarnation...tarnished?


In a message dated 97-01-08 12:33:34 EST, you write:

<< i never quite remember what the outcome
 of the paula/tarnation split was...
 the 4ad little catalog thing says that their new
 album is coming soon and was wondering if she
 was doing her own thing (and if so what..) or tarnation
 was still tarnation with her..
  >>
Tarnation is still on 4ad and will have an ep and 7" in the coming weeks.  It
is simply in America where things are different.  Warner Brothers wanted to
release her album for wide release on April 4, 1997.  Don't worry though--She
is still Tarnation and still on 4AD.  I can't wait!!!

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:24:56 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: spain...VERVE...yummy


spain have a new record coming out. it will be released on the jazz label
started by norman granz, VERVE. maybe josh haden (brother of that dog's
petra haden who released material on 4AD) talked to his poppa charlie
haden. i love spain. one word: smooth....

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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:26:49 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: a little sale


This brief little sale contains items which for
five different people originally expressed interest,
but then never came through. If those people are still
on here and still want these things, please contact me

4AD Catalogue 1980-1994 July    $10
Medicine - 5ive CD ep   (someone offered me quite a bit for this.
                         Are you still there??)
Dead Can Dance - 1996 Tour book plus CD $15
Pixies Doolittle poster set - 9 posters, *roughly* 12"x20", cat. # WAD 905  $50
Harmony Rockets album

Plus there was someone who promised me a Tortoise album,
but never sent it.

Let's try to tie up these loose ends.

Brant

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| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:04:27 -0500
From: Christian Carollo (newslist@GINA.COM)
Subject: Trip-Hop ???



MSNBC is currently doing a piece you might be interested in. In the clubs of New
York, London
and Munich, a loosely defined lifestyle is dominating the underground: new cloth
s, new drugs
and a new sound. The music itself has splintered into hundreds of sub genres, bu
 at the center
of it all is "trip-hop,"a style of electronic music that grinds hip-hop rhythms 
nd record
samples together and infuses the slow, semihypnotic mix with psychedelic sound e
fects. Author
J.C. Herz takes a journey to explore the sound and the fury of trip-hop at

bsbd

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:16:13 -0500
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: Re: low, finally, where?


>does anyone know where i could find a copy of low's "Finally" e.p.?

I think i saw it at newbury comics in downtown boston today.

Because of all the talk about low, i have bought the following in the last
      long division
      the curtain hits the cast
 and the transmission ep.

also bought lois's snapshot radio ep today.

all excellent and well worth the money.  thanks to all who have posted
positive reviews.  i plan on seeing low on the 25th at the somerville
theater with the swans(who are playing their last tour).  anyone in boston
should check it out, as the somerville theater is one of those old movie
theaters with a stage(they still show movies too) and it's only $15.

scott

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
scott anderson




                      sanderson@sbra.com
                  humgiant@user1.channel1.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:17:46 -0500
From: "Mr. Kevin Wallace" (kevin.wallace@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: shelleyan orphan


Can anyone help, please? I'm looking for the CD of Shelleyan Orphan's
Helleborine, or any of her singles. I'm getting desperate as the years go
by without any result... Also, has anyone heard what Caroline Crawley is
doing now? I heard rumours that she is recording with Boris of the Cure.
Can anyone confirm this?


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:41:51 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Seely lee cliche eh?


i absolutely fell in love with the seely release... julie only has the
most amazing drum sound (possibly thanks to j. mc entire). track six is
toatally amazing. everyone rags this band. i was impressed by the subtlety
and the sound and the vocal harmonies and the earthy feel to something
airy. it's third in my top ten of 1996.

On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Jason Bryant wrote:

> > >let's do something new. Go listen to Amp or
> >  >Scala or Seely or Underworld or Labradford...
> >
> >  thank you, i already have (and i can appreciate both the 'new' and the
> 'old')
> >
> >  seely???  cliches 'r' us...
>
> I'm curious as to why you think Seely is the housing for all that is cliched.
>   Boy girl sharing vox, underlying song structure somewhat reminscent of sped
> up Luna or earlier nervous rock Pale Saints...so, I suppose that's where I
> hear the references -  they could do much worse, but they haven't :)
>
> Don't count your Seely's before they hatch.
>
> jason
>
> srilank@aol.com
>

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**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:07:58 EST
From: "ALLEN,MATTHEW JAMES,MR" (BUCP@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA)
Subject: Re: a little sale


>This brief little sale contains items which for
>five different people originally expressed interest,
>but then never came through. If those people are still
>on here and still want these things, please contact me
>
>4AD Catalogue 1980-1994 July    $10
>Medicine - 5ive CD ep   (someone offered me quite a bit for this.
>                         Are you still there??)
>Dead Can Dance - 1996 Tour book plus CD $15
id like the dead can dance cd if its still up for grabs.  im willing
to pay $15 for it.
>Pixies Doolittle poster set - 9 posters, *roughly* 12"x20", cat. # WAD 905  $50
>Harmony Rockets album
>
>Plus there was someone who promised me a Tortoise album,
>but never sent it.
>
>Let's try to tie up these loose ends.
>
>Brant
>
>|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
>| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
>|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
>|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |
>
>      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:53:46 -0500
From: "(Amy Winebarger)" (Amy4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: cocteau twins


Hi everyone! I'm amy from livonia and am new to the listserv.

what a resource

could someone please tell me how i could obtain the cocteau twins's
EVANGELINE single?

i need desperate help

thanks

Amy4AD@aol.com


Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:31:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Trip-Hop ???


>at the center
>of it all is "trip-hop,"a style of electronic music that grinds hip-hop
>rhythms and record
>samples together and infuses the slow, semihypnotic mix with psychedelic
>sound effects. Author
>J.C. Herz takes a journey to explore the sound and the fury of trip-hop at

I took a look at the site.

The writing is lame, exactly what you'd expect from the mainstream news
media covering something "underground" and "happening" and "cool".

The movies are AVI, so the quality sucks and you have to wait for the
whole huge files to download before being able to see anything. But then,
this is a Microsoft site so they couldn't use QuickTime.

The RealAudio 2.0 samples sound ludicrously garbled, as though some one
had run them through a whole bank of Kevin Shields' effect pedals.
Actually kind of a neat sound but hardly recognizable as the original
songs...

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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:02:10 -0500
From: My Razorblade Suitcase weighs Sixteen Stone
Subject: Re: tarnation...tarnished?


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