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Subject: shoegazing 101
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:20:11 EST
From: mattn@MIT.EDU
Subject: Closedown (was: ou sont les shoegazers d'antan?)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:42:49 -0600
From: Le Roy du Mal (ersatz@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: shoegazing 101
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:14:04 -0600
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)
Subject: Paladins
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:13:33 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: RHP show 12/22 SF
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:19:19 -0800
From: Paul Davidson (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Hillbilly
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:32:27 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Please stop forwarding copies of E-mail to me
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:07 -0800
From: "K. S. G. Welch" (interkim@ihug.co.nz)
Subject: Polyesterday
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:45:29 -0500
From: Tim Nekuza (ff417@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: Year end bests:
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:03:14 -0500
From: Carpalman (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:20:11 EST
From: mattn@MIT.EDU
Subject: shoegazing 101


Check out Godzuki and the Autocollants.  Godzuki has releases on
March records and the Autocollants have a 7" on Drive In records.  Otherwise,
the Cat's Miaow never fail to please me and they're on tons of labels
(mostly American though).

Matt

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Matt Neimark                      (617) 776-0904
341 Summer St.                    (617) 776-9199 [Fax]
Somerville, MA 02144              (617) 258-5794 [Work]


Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:42:49 -0600
From: Le Roy du Mal (ersatz@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Closedown (was: ou sont les shoegazers d'antan?)


I wrote:

> > Closedown (closest thing to Just for a Day-era Slowdive)

and Erik replied:

> we're talking about Closedown's demos, and not their album "Nearfield".
> That album is far far away from the amazing Just For a Day

Actually, I haven't heard these, only the CD "Nearfield" on Silent
records.  For the first half or so, the tracks are more dreamy, and
interleaved with these negligible ambient sound collages, but the
later half has all the textural and melodic elements of JFAD Slowdive,
and except for the absence of the femme vocal harmonies, several
of the tracks stand with Slowdive's best (the opinion of a fellow who
considers his $40 Jap "Blue Day" a wise investment.)

And if anyone can put me on the track of those legendary Closedown demos,
pray tell.  Willing to trade tapes, blood donations...whatever...

And while we're revising our shoegaze recommendations, a caveat about
Bethany Curve: while they have great instrumental textures, their
vocalist exemplifies everything that ever annoyed you about Robert
Smith's voice... I haven't liked a band with atrocious vocals this
much since, say, Savage Republic.

Darryl Roy  ersatz@hal-pc.org
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"Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." - Picasso

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:14:04 -0600
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)
Subject: Re: shoegazing 101


mattn@MIT.EDU wrote:
> Check out Godzuki and the Autocollants.  Godzuki has releases on
> March records and the Autocollants have a 7" on Drive In records.
> Otherwise,
> the Cat's Miaow never fail to please me and they're on tons of
> labels
> (mostly American though).

And while we're at it, also check out the Electrosonics who have a
three-song CD single on Quiddity (the sister label to Drive-in).  Very
dreamy with jangly and fuzzed out guitars and drifting female vocals.
Aces.


hk
[who was listening to that Secret Shine CD single this morning, y'know,
the one that pretty much re-lives MBV's "Only Shallow" almost note for
note]
--
hk@neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
"Let's have a bakesale!" -- Space Ghost

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:13:33 -0500
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Paladins


PALADINS
"Million Mile Club"
4AD, CAD6015CD/46367

You know 4AD is expanding their net when they sign greaser hot rod buffs
like the Paladins from San Diego, California.  Recorded live in such
after-hours hotspots as The Belly Up Tavern and the Fort Spokane
Brewery, this trio guitar, double bass and drums kicks the door down,
turns your stereo up and drinks your liquor before splitting with the
silverware.  Guitarist Dave Gonzalez's gritty, blusesy vocals can seem
somewhat one-dimensional over a whole album, while the band's
sloppy-drunk-with-funk approach is hardly new, but when it works - as on
their cool cover of "Let's Buzz" or their own "Years Since Yesterday" -
it works well.  There are many English bands who would kill to swagger
like this.  ***
Sid Griffin

as reviewed in Q
Issue 124, January 1997

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:19:19 -0800
From: Paul Davidson (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: RHP show 12/22 SF


Hello all,

Red House Painters SF 12/22/96.

This was the last show of the tour. Lots of obnoxious covers, lots of
obnoxious Kozelek banter regarding things like the venereal disease he
caught on tour, or how people on the internet complain about them playing
cover songs. But as always when he starts using his mouth to sing instead of
bitch it's surprisingly beautiful. I must remember to bring earplugs next
time to use between songs.
I missed Maids of Gravity, when I got there ACDC's Powerage lp was being
pumped through the PA. It was pleasing to see some of the typical rhp
"marion the librarian" type fans grooving in spite of themselves.
Usually Bay Area RHP shows are either one shot deals or the beginning of a
tour so I was used to seeing them kind of screw up chord or timing changes
in the middle of songs. Tonight they were tighter than I'd ever seen them,
several times they fell together intuitively even after really weird pauses.
Also Kozelek's voice was as strong and on key as I've ever heard it.

Here's the set list from memory, might not be 100% correct:

RIDE ON (ac/dc) -apparently Mark can identify with these "stadium loaders"
and their rough life on the road.
UNCLE JOE  -mmmmmm nice.
WHAT'S NEXT TO THE MOON (ac/dc) - Johnny Cash style.
EVIL  -the vocals lines are inverted and the band crescendos in such a way
After "that made me feel good..." Kozelek added this trippy descending
guitar thing, it was nice to see that they hadn't been stagnating musically
on the road.
24
LOVE WILL TEAR US APART (Joy Division) -they pretty much ruined this one.
WAR PIGS (Black Sabbath) -ha ha the jokes over.
POWDERFINGER (Neil Young) -ok, listenable.
WHITE CHRISTMAS -I hate Christmas music.
LITTLE DRUMMER BOY -ditto.
GREENSLEAVES(sp?) - instrumental, not intolerable.
ALL MIXED UP - I guess they're still hopping this one will be a hit.
I FEEL THE RAIN FALL/
BRON-Y-AUR (Led Zeppelin)
*NEW SONG* -again, they didn't stagnate on tour, this was a treat I hadn't
expected. Some of the lyrics were something about "saying good bye in front
of that store..." and references to "the shores of Lake Michigan". I wonder
if it's about the same person from Chicago who was alluded to on this list
recently. Really beautiful song. (not Hello Kavita)
*KIND OF NEW SONG* - I think they've played this at every show I've been to
(this was my 10th) "I Know you're willing and able, by the wooden table..."
"Come on over to my side and I'll drink from your..." Their longest song;
Usually about 13 min.
MISTRESS
DOWN PAYMENT BLUES (ac/dc)
MICHAEL
GRACE CATHEDRAL PARK

-Paul       pauld@best.com


Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:32:27 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: Hillbilly


I recently heard the song "Hillbilly" by Throwing Muses for the first
time.  I understand, according to Kristen Hersh, that the song is a
"University dropout."  The recording sounded pretty complete to me.  Was
this available commercially?

Thanks,

Bill


Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:29:07 -0800
From: "K. S. G. Welch" (interkim@ihug.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Please stop forwarding copies of E-mail to me


mattn@MIT.EDU wrote:
>
> Check out Godzuki and the Autocollants.  Godzuki has releases on
> March records and the Autocollants have a 7" on Drive In records.  Otherwise,
> the Cat's Miaow never fail to please me and they're on tons of labels
> (mostly American though).
>
> Matt
>
> -----------
> Matt Neimark                      (617) 776-0904
> 341 Summer St.                    (617) 776-9199 [Fax]
> Somerville, MA 02144              (617) 258-5794 [Work]

Could someone who is in the know arange to have the 4AD E-mail stoped
from being sent ( Forward copied ) to me.

K. S. G. Welch
Kim Welch Electronics.
interkim@ihug.co.nz
Thank you.


Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:45:29 -0500
From: Tim Nekuza (ff417@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: Polyesterday


This is the first time in quite a while that I've actually been inspired to
write to this board.

What inspires this in me?  Glad you asked.  The Gus Gus 'Polyesterday' ep is
some pretty tasty stuff.  Really distinctive, exciting new music.  While it
doesn't exactly fit under the j3!isn't what I would call experimental, it's e
tremely listenable and engaging.
Gus Gus is an interesting addition to the diversification of 4ad.  It fills a
void left by Colourbox and moves into acid jazz territory as well.

I'm one of the (very) few, it seems, that has appreciated the endeavors of Ivo's
most recent signees.  It's been made abundantly that mostly everyone here has
little if any appreciation for the Paladins.  The reality, however, is that
the Paladins are held in very high regard by blues afficianados and critics.
A recent appearance by the Paladins in Cleveland was called 'legendary' by
a blues-loving acquaintance.

I'm glad that Ivo's actually trying to shove off the 'ethereal' tag.  I don't
think I can handle any more cocteau twins rip offs.

GET GUS GUS!

Tim

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:03:14 -0500
From: Carpalman (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Year end bests:


TOP ALBUMS OF 1996:
1. Weeping Tile- Cold Snap
2. Robyn Hitchcock- Moss Elixir/Mossy Liquor
3. Soul Coughing- Ruby Vroom (this is 2 yrs old, but i just discovered it)
4. Beck- Odelay
5. Throwing Muses- Limbo
6. Cibo Matto- Viva La Woman!
7. Bill Nelson- After The Satellite Sings
8. O}+> - Emancipation
9. Everything But The Girl- Walking Wounded
10. His Name Is Alive- Stars on ESP

Honourable mentions:
Tori Amos- Boys For Pele, Lisa Germano- Excerpts from a Love Circus.

TOP SHOWS OF 1996:
1. Lisa Germano/ Weeping Tile (Horseshoe Tavern--Toronto, Canada)
2. Robyn Hitchcock/ Billy Bragg (Avalon, Boston, MA)
3. Too Hectic/ The Toasters (Styleen's, Syracuse, NY)
4. Throwing Muses (Met Cafe, Providence, RI)
5. Happy Rhodes (Woodstock, NY)
6. deni bonet/ Hammill on Trial (Valentine's, Albany, NY)
7. Idaho/ Lotion (Milestones, Rochester, NY)
the rest were all fair-to-middlin'.

FAVORITE MOVIES:
Welcome to the Dollhouse, Angels & Insects, Fargo, Bottlerocket, Ransom,
That Thing You Do, Michael.

See ya next year!!

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John B. Jones

"The Higsons come from Norwich
Norwich, Massachusetts
And they eat alot of pancakes..."
                -Billy Bragg, 16 Nov 96
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