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Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 05:54:48 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: check it out
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:55:30 -0800
From: Ray Hogue (rayhogue@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:23:28 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: de Niro/Brook
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:09:36 -0500
From: John (wizard@BGA.COM)
Subject: Creation
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:30:37 -0800
From: "Jeff (fourAD)" (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: check it out
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:40:57 -0800
From: Dan Shubin (dans@europa.com)
Subject: Re: Medicine
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:07:59 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:09:41 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: de Niro/Brook
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:13:41 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: thislisty sale
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:34:22 -0600
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:52:36 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 05:54:48 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation


---from William B. Tubbs:

> How many releases by Medicine were there on Creation?  I have two CD
> singles/eps.  Was there more?

I think Medicine were signed to Creation for the duration of their first
album, _Shot_Forth_Self_Living_, which spawned the two single/EPs,
"Aruca" and "5ive".  They were dropped from Creation around the same time
that every other good band was dropped (apparently in order to devote
their attention to signing "great" bands like Oasis), and I think all of
their subsequent releases were issued by Beggars Banquet in the UK.

Since _Her_Highness_ was released when I wasn't on the list, I'm curious
as to what others might have to say about that album.  I think it's
fantastic, but of all the other people I know who have been into them
since _SFSL_, I seem to be the only person who holds that opinion.  It's
a shame that they broke up, since they were one of the very few bands who
really showed the potential to keep getting better rather than worse as
time went on.  But oh well.

---Jeremy 

...who might actually start his Xmas shopping today.


Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:55:30 -0800
From: Ray Hogue (rayhogue@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: check it out


check this out...


Thanks
Ray Hogue
619-322-7340

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:23:28 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation


At 05:54 AM 12/24/96 EST, you wrote:
>---from William B. Tubbs:
>
>> How many releases by Medicine were there on Creation?  I have two CD
>> singles/eps.  Was there more?
>
>I think Medicine were signed to Creation for the duration of their first
>album, _Shot_Forth_Self_Living_, which spawned the two single/EPs,
>"Aruca" and "5ive".  They were dropped from Creation around the same time
>that every other good band was dropped (apparently in order to devote
>their attention to signing "great" bands like Oasis), and I think all of
>their subsequent releases were issued by Beggars Banquet in the UK.

Actually, I thought they were signed to American Recordings (formerly Def
American).  Or is American part of the Beggars Banquet family?

I agree about "Her Highness"; I really like it.  I hear the band hated it,
though.

Mike
iceblink@Tiac.net

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:09:36 -0500
From: John (wizard@BGA.COM)
Subject: de Niro/Brook


>Which Robert De Niro movie features a track by Michael Brook (as well as
>Moby massacring a Joy Division song)?
>
it's caled 'Heat.'  2 cassettes, cop movie.  Has de Niro, Pacino, Val
Kilmer.  I was astounded to hear Brook on it.  Rewound the tape several
times :)





john

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:30:37 -0800
From: "Jeff (fourAD)" (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Creation


I love Medicine, right from "Shot Forth" up to "Her Highness".  The
Medicine EPs on Creation are great!  "Aruca" (CRESCD135) is more of a
single than an EP but all the B-sides are choice!  The "5ive" EP, which
is actually named "Come Here To Drink Milk" (CRESCD141) is worth
searching out as it features "Time Baby II", which was rerecorded for
the UK "Time Baby III" single (ARB6CD; Beggars Banquet) and the US "The
Sounds Of Medicine" EP (45609-2; American/WB).  There is also another
"The Buried Life" album era EP called "Never Click" (ARB3CD; Beggars
Banquet) that is equally well worth tracking down...

Unfortunately, Creation lost a swack of good bands in the following
years like Medicine, Swervedriver and Ride.  Sure, some broke up on
their own but not due to any great promotion effort from Creation.  The
label, which is simply an alternative arm of Sony Music Entertainment
now, is just a fancy "boutique" label for Oasis releases.

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:40:57 -0800
From: Dan Shubin (dans@europa.com)
Subject: Re: check it out


Yeah, and...?
So when do you guys start spamming startups?


Ray Hogue wrote:
>
> check this out...
>
> http://www.anaserve.com/~rchogue/Bandfrm.htm
>
> Thanks
> Ray Hogue
> 619-322-7340

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:07:59 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Medicine


Jeff wrote:
> "Never Click"

Quite possibly one of the greatest "love" songs ever recorded!
---
t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
     http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
{ catalogue number 30/version 13 }


Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:09:41 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation


---from Mike Borum (quoting me):

> > I think Medicine were signed to Creation for the duration of their
first
> > album...  They were dropped from Creation...and I think all of their
> > subsequent releases were issued by Beggars Banquet in the UK.
>
> Actually, I thought they were signed to American Recordings (formerly
> Def American).  Or is American part of the Beggars Banquet family?

Actually, we were talking about the UK releases.  They were signed to
(Def) American here in the US for all three albums, but unfortunately,
they opted not to commerically release the singles over here.

---and from Jeff Keibel:

> There is also another "The Buried Life" album era EP called "Never
Click"
> (ARB3CD; Beggars Banquet) that is equally well worth tracking down...

Oh yeah!  I meant to ask about that, because it's the only release that I
don't own that I'm aware of.  (Just look at that preposition dangle.)  Is
the version of "Never Click" the same as the one found on _TBL_, or is it
an edit/remix?  What other tracks are on that EP?  Is it out of print
yet?

Also, after they broke up, there was some talk (I think) of some
vinyl-only releases on obscure indie labels.  Anyone got any hard info on
these (presuming that they ever came to light at all)?

---Jeremy 

"...I want to shimmy from the stars, I want to move into the top of your
trees..."


Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:13:41 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: de Niro/Brook


In a message dated 96-12-24 11:33:19 EST, you write:

<< >Which Robert De Niro movie features a track by Michael Brook (as well as
 >Moby massacring a Joy Division song)?
 >
 it's caled 'Heat.'  2 cassettes, cop movie.  Has de Niro, Pacino, Val
 Kilmer.  I was astounded to hear Brook on it.  Rewound the tape several
 times :) >>
It also has two Lisa Gerrard songs I believe.


Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:34:22 -0600
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: thislisty sale


hey all, I am moving in a few weeks, and need to clean up and get rid of
stuff that I don't listen to anymore..
reply to gszaks@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

all prices include postage (in the usa)
if you don't like the price, make an offer!

7"
air maimi- i hate milk/faternoon train (promo given at shows) PRO-S-7823
$10
the- amps bragging party promo (uk)
$10
cocteau twins-  bluebeard (uk) (fontana)
$5
cocteau twins-  twinlights doble 7" (uk)  (fontana)
$12
mazzy star- five string serenade (uk) (rough trade singles club,
june,1993)
$10

scheer- demon/howling boy promo (uk) (4ad) SCHEER-1
$12

cd-5's
air maimi- i hate milk 1 track promo (usa)
$3
belly- slow dust ep  (uk) (4ad-bad2009cd)
$7
frank black- los angeles 1 track promo (usa)
$3      or both frank blacks for $5
frank black- men in black i track promo (usa)
$3      or both frank blacks for $5
pixies- gone to heaven (4 tracks) (usa)
$8
throwing muses- bright yellow gun 1 track promo (usa)
$3
uvs- staring at the sun 3 tracks (uk) (4ad-bad0004cd)
$5

full length cd
cocteau twins- milk and kisses (usa) full lenght promo
$7
liquroice- listening cap  (usa) full length promo
$6
unrest- fuck pussy galore... (usa) (matador)
$7
versus- secret swingers (usa) (caroline)
$6
V/A-thurtene 4ad-l members cover 4ad songs (usa) (dewdrops)
$7
V/A-too pure peel sessions (uk) w/stereolab, pj harvey,etc..
$8

misc./other
breeders- double trouble bootleg (kts) great sound, recorded on '93 tour
$15
pixies- gigantic bootleg (hand made) good sound, live trax from early
years...
$15
liquroice- "cheap cuts" 4ad us promo with different mixes of 5 different
songs!
$15
V/A- "in a field of thier own" nme released (uk) double cd of live
glastonburry '92 tracks (lush, breeders, etc) 2 cd's
$15
V/A- no balls
$8

if you don't like a price, make an offer!! I am moving, so all this needs
to go, or it goes to the local cd store...

steve
gszaks@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:52:36 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Medicine on Creation


>Oh yeah!  I meant to ask about that, because it's the only release that I
>don't own that I'm aware of.  (Just look at that preposition dangle.)  Is
>the version of "Never Click" the same as the one found on _TBL_, or is it
>an edit/remix?  What other tracks are on that EP?  Is it out of print
>yet?

Never Click (remix)
Whle
'Til I Die

>vinyl-only releases on obscure indie labels.  Anyone got any hard info on
>these (presuming that they ever came to light at all)?

I have a double 7"ep (on clear vinyl) that I never listen to; it doesn't
say what label it's on:

Off The Vine
Heads
Hull
Becky

t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
     http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
{ catalogue number 30/version 13 }


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