4ad-l Mail for 12-22-1996

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Subject: Re: aesthetic judgement
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:07:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Tanya Donelly's solo album
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:12:11 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Counting Crowes
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:38:52 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Counting Crowes
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:13:49 EST
From: Matthew T DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Xymox CD-Single
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 04:41:39 -0500
From: Iwan Van Raaij (106524.262@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:55:26 +0000
From: Richard Anderson (R.Anderson@RECORDS.USYD.EDU.AU)

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:07:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: aesthetic judgement


No musical content.

naor wrote:
>imagine you are looking at a picture of bambi. let's say that you think it's
>beautiful. the fact that you find it beautiful is not connected to your
>*personal*
>needs. you are not about to eat it or ride on it's back. in that case, the
>beauty
>"must" (according to kant) be a property of the object. and everyone would
>have to
>agree about it.

Well, if that's what Kant said I've lost respect for him (but this is the
kind of shabby sleight of hand that too many philosophers try to pull.)
The fact that the object's "beauty" isn't related to my explicit
biological needs (what you called "personal") doesn't mean that the
beauty is more than something I read into it. For instance, I may have a
"beauty need" that is fulfilled by that object, and my "beauty need" is
not connected to more physical needs like food or transportation.
However, this in no way implies that any two people's beauty needs are
similar and can be fulfilled by the same objects.

Jeez, and I never even studied philosophy formally; but I like to think
about things rigorously and with attention to the underlying symbology
beneath the verbal expression. For instance, in the above argument
(whether it's in Kant's original or your explanation) the problem is with
the word "personal". It's initially used to refer to a physical drive.
But then later its negation is taken to mean "impersonal" or "universal",
which absolutely doesn't follow if you look at the concepts under the
words.

But then again Kant was German, and German is a pretty confusing
language...

--Jens (who still finds Objective-C repellent, regardless of what
transactions his employer of record may have recently entered into)


Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:12:11 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Tanya Donelly's solo album


According to Tanya's US label Reprise/WB, she is still recording songs
for her solo debut album.  A worldwide Reprise and 4AD release of June
has been set.  Hopefully there will be one or two EPs in the meantime...

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:38:52 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Counting Crowes


Matthew T DeBellis answered the "name the 4AD song in Singles" question:

> The Answer: Pixies "Dig For Fire" in the store scene.  I heard it, and > me an
 a couple of friends started cheering in the audience.
>
> Do i win anything????

Well, sadly I just gave away my last copy of "Lilliput"...

Which Robert DeNiro movie features the song "Iceblink Luck" in it??  I
rented a movie called "Bad Boys" a while back and it was a really
cheaply repackaging of the movie "Valley Girl".  How many times is
Modern English's "I Melt With You" used during the course of that
movie?  Which Nicole Kidman movie features a song from The Wolfgang
Press??  Which movie, "Twister" or "Mallrats" makes more effective use
of Belly's "Broken"??  The song "Pump Up The Volume" wasn't used in the
movie of the same name but what other 4AD group was??

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:13:49 EST
From: Matthew T DeBellis (loomer5@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Counting Crowes


"Pump Up the Volume" = once again, Pixies "Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf)"

Here's an easy one:

What 4ad group's music is featured in the movie "Party Girl"??


Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 04:41:39 -0500
From: Iwan Van Raaij (106524.262@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Xymox CD-Single


I've got a question:
Yesterday I found a 5" CDS called 'Subsequent Pleasures' by Xymox. I didn't
know it existed and I've actually
seen more copies of the 7inch promo for 'A Day' (Boudisque, the
Netherlands) than I've seen this one. The CDS
comes in a slimline jewel box with a black & white insert which is a copy
of the original vinyl 12" cover. The
only clue on the CD is the catalogue number which is 'EUPHO 9101'.

My assumptions: A European release (CD itself was pressed in Austria) and
probably released in 1991. This is
because in 1994 'Subsequent Pleasures' was released in combination with the
'Clan Of Xymox' demos
on Pseudonym Records to mark the 10th anniversary of the band so it
wouldn't make much sense to
release SP with less tracks after that.

So.... Who knows more about this one???

Cheers,

Iwan


New & Highly recommended:
12inch  by Flowchart - Evergreen Noise Is Flexible (very Stereolab-ish &
only a 1000 exist)
Box with 3 12inches released by Drunken Fish Records called 'Harmony Of The
Spheres' with a.o. Jessamine
& Flying Saucer Attack.

(A great record shop can be found on:   www.xs4all.nl/~distort    )


Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:55:26 +0000
From: Richard Anderson (R.Anderson@RECORDS.USYD.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996


This is going to sound really ignorant and stupid, but indulge me, I'm
dying here.

Lisa Germano - ex Dead Can Dance or ex (wait for it) John Mellancamp band
(fiddle player)

and be gentle...

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