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Subject: Re: Secret Curve?
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:21:26 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: HNIA (you know, that band from England)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:21:02 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: unchallenged myths, they lie heavy
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:50:47 -0500
From: arbogast (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA (you know, that band from England)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:28:29 -0500
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: best wishes
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:04:17 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Nick Cave New Album
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:41:54 -0500
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: 13YI/AVAM
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:06:31 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: FS/FT
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:48:37 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: RHP
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:03:42 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:21:26 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: Secret Curve?



On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Aaron Thorne  wrote about:
Secret Curve?

>> "All tracks written and performed by Curve.  Published by: PXM Publishing.
>> All tracks licensed from The Product Exchange. (P) 1995 Wazzz Music.
>> (C) 1995 Disky Communications Europe B.V.  Cover design: Van Dijken,
>> Enschede."
>
> i replied to this when it was first brought up by Mr. Gman2 but i guess
> nobody saw that.  This is a different curve.  They were around before the
> Curve w/ Toni & Dean and they have sometimes been known as Curve Sr.  I
> think this might be the only release that you'll run across but just in
> case, all Curve records must have some mention of Anxious, Charisma,
> Sony, or Fatlip.  They are also credited to Halliday/Garcia, not just
> Curve.

Some of us noticed your posting at least. :-) Anyway, just to end another
thread on "is this Curve - _the_ Curve?" before it starts - there's a
Swedish band called "A Curve" who released their debut album "Get U Off
My Mind" a couple of weeks ago. The cover has the word "Curve" in large,
easy to spot, letters and the "A" hiding in their logo-thing. Another
interesting thing - the ads in the papers for the album said just "Curve"
for a couple of weeks, but then suddenly had the "A" added. I guess someone
tipped Fatlip or Anxious off..

So, that's not _the_ Curve either.

 //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)


Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:21:02 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA (you know, that band from England)


---from someone whose name I forgot to get the first time around:

> i just found this doing an altavista search on HNIA, and had a laugh.
> check it:
>
> One of the most intriguing offerings in this aesthetic realm is Mouth
> By Mouth, the third recording produced by "his name is alive," an
> ensemble comprising a weird variation on the power trio (guitar/
> samples, cello, and drums). Not surprisingly (considering their
> English roots), the sound world of "his name is alive" is more arty
> and less ironic than the deeply American Zorn.

[...and so on...]

I must admit, I got quite a laugh out of that...did it begin with a
discussion/review of John Zorn somewhere?  If the person that originally
posted the message still has the URL handy (highly doubtful)...could you
forward it to me?

Still...I couldn't help but appreciate it just knowing that the writer
was obviously viewing them from a completely different musical
perspective than the ones we usually see, both here and in "our" media.
We tend to lump so much instant cool and mystique on bands simply because
of their 4AD connection...er, well, it was still relatively safe to do
back in 1990 when _Liv_ came out, anyway.  And of all the bands in recent
memory, HNIA have done the most (or is it least?) to perpetuate this sort
of mythmaking.

Just a 5am thought...

---Jeremy 

...who thinks that Warren Defever and Richard James should make an album
together before the latter...*guffaw*..."retires".


Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:50:47 -0500
From: arbogast (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: unchallenged myths, they lie heavy


>1. beauty satisfies without an interest. - the object of beauty brings a
sense of
>satisfaction to the viewer, but not because of some need or interest of the
viewer
>that has been fulfilled.

I wish I could remember it properly but there's a great quote from Julian
Barnes (the Martin Amis for people whose lips don't move when they read)
about the whole truth/beauty thing - something like:

"If you look in the phone book under 'beauty' you'll find a dozen clever
puns. But look under 'truth' and you'll find nothing".

Not sure how this relates to the discussion at hand but it's always sounded
profound to me. Anyway, Naor and Jens both hit the nail right on the head to
some extent in that perceptions of beauty are entirely subjective.
Unfortunately, more than a few people don't realise this and insist that
those who disagree with their opinions are "wrong" -  the source of a good
many pointless threads.


Larry


Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:28:29 -0500
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA (you know, that band from England)


On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, jeremy spoke in class,
and requested the following URL:

        http://www.ctheory.com/r-two_instances_of_musical.html


        the name of the article is "Two Instances of Musical Postmodernism
        in Britain," by Steve Gibson


        by the way, i'd like to take this opportunity to wish
        all of you listies the merriest of xmases fnord, and
        a delightful new year.

        my new year's resolution is to quit buying 2-part
        uk cd singles.  wonder how long that'll last...


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        "Smash the control images Samsh the control machine"
                          W.S. Burroughs


   Professor Daniel B. Klyn--Dept. of Comparative Realities--LSD Univ.
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:04:17 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: best wishes


In keeping with the holiday spirit, I'd
like to wish you all many fine and happy moments in the
coming two weeks. May Santa fill all your stockings with CDs!
Also, heartfelt thanks goes to all of you who have supported
us in many different ways. You've had a share in making my
dreams come true.

Cheers!

Brant

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|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:41:54 -0500
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Nick Cave New Album


for those interested, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds newest album, _The
Boatman's Call_ is slated to be released Stateside on March 4, 1997.

Joe
WB/Reprise


Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:06:31 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: 13YI/AVAM


Does anybody out there know where I might find copies of the 13YI and
AVAM videos?  If not, are there any nice people out there who might be
willing to at least make a copy of theirs while I'm looking.

Thanks,

Bill

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:48:37 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: FS/FT

A58733

for sale or trade/I know the first four are still available.

Cocteau Twins - Lullabies 12=94 - BAD 213 - $5
Cocteau Twins - Spangle Maker 12=94 - BAD 405 - $5
Cocteau Twins - Aikea-Guinea 12=94 - BAD 501 - $5
Pixies - Gigantic/River Euphrates 12=94 - BAD 805 - $5
Lisa Germano - Inconsiderate Bitch - TAD 4003 CD - bid only
V.A. - All Virgos Are Mad - 45789 - bid only

the last two I'd really rather trade.  Wanted:

V.A. - All Virgos Are Mad Video (NTSC only)
V.A. - 13 Year Itch Video (NTSC only)

Bill

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:03:42 -0600
From: "William B. Tubbs" (wbt60@earthlink.net)
Subject: RHP


I saw the RHP in St. Louis on 12/10 and I'm curious if I saw a typical
show (if there is such a thing) or not.  The show started out acoustic
with Kozelek solo doing "Don't Fear the Reaper."  He followed with one
or maybe two more songs sans band.  Other songs I recognized were
"Powderfinger," "Shock Me," and if I'm not mistaken, a cover of HNIA's
"Universal Frequencies."  Now I'm not familiar with all of their work,
but the only original that I recognized was "Uncle Joe."  Nothing from
the new release.  At about the half-way point, he excused himself from
the stage to take a piss, leaving the rest of the band somewhat
perplexed.  And the set seemed to end rather abruptly.  In fact, it
appeared to me that he even surprised the rest of the band at the end.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the show.  But has anybody else had this
kind of experience at a RHP show, or was it just a bad night in St.
Louis (no St. Louis jokes, please).  Just curious.

Bill