Subject: Top N in progress
Subject: Re: spain
Subject: Re: His Name Is Jerry Maquire
Subject: Seach For New Music
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: air miami
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Spain
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Seach For New Music
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Seach For New Music -Reply
Subject: Kim Deal has a question
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Review of new Rachel's ???
Subject: Julia Only
Subject: Japanese to Spanish
Subject: Re: Seach For New Music
Subject: Mud & Cookies
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Julia Only
Subject: Xtian bands (was: Re: Bleach?)
Subject: Deal Of A Century
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:36:09 -0800
It's that time of year and I'm mulling over what to put in my top ten
list. In the running so far are [not yet really in order]:
Amp "Sirenes" (only had it two weeks but it may be destined for #1)
Underworld "2nd Toughest In the Infants"
Salt "Auscultate"
Seely "Julie Only"
Elysian Fields "Bleed Your Cedar"
Husikesque "Green Blue Fire"
Stereolab "Emperor Tomato Ketchup"
Scala "Lips & Heaven" ??
Beck "Odelay" ??
...and there are several other things I haven't heard yet such as
Labradford, Bowery Electric, 3rd Eye Foundation, Seefeel, Rachel's, etc.
that might otherwise go on the list. And didn't FSA put out an album this
year?
Biggest disappointments: probably either the Cocteau Twins' "Milk &
Kisses" or Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". Not that I
actively dislike either one, they just didn't at all live up to the
ultrahype.
I'm having more trouble filling out the list than in previous years,
which indicates it may have been a weak year, but there were several very
fine albums released. And my CD budget has been lower, too, so there's
more stuff I just haven't heard.
Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just
wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments...
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:30:13 -0600
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Matt Greer wrote:
> when I saw the cocteau twins on their tour this past summer, a band
> called spain opened for em...they where kinda cool and I wouldnt mind
> checking em out, but i cant seem to find anything by them anywhere...it
> could be because i live in a dinky little town with pathetic record stores,
> but anyone out there know of/own any of their stuff?
>
>
> Matt
>
> btw-i just picked up slowdive's "souvlaki" based on what ive heard about em
> from this mailing list and I must say I love it....
>
As far as I know, Spain only have one full length release: "The Blue
Moods of Spain". It is an absolutely fantastic. You MUST have the disc
in your collection. It didn't seem to be hard to find. It was just
sitting there on the shelf, no special order or anything... How po-dunk
of a town do you live in? I got it at Media Play I think. Geez, if they
have it, every store probably does....
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:47:34 -0500
At 12:43 PM 12/11/96 -0800, you wrote:
>The song is called
>"Sitting Still Moving Still Staring Outlooking", which is from the "Home
>Is In Your Head" album. The liner notes mention (p) 1991 4AD Ryko. Odd
>that it would mention Ryko in this Canadian version as Ryko has nothing
>to do with HNIA here.
This is way cool...If I'm not mistaken, isn't this also the first soundtrack
appearance of HNIA? (In a Hollywood soundtrack, that is; they may be on some
obscure indie film soundtracks or something).
As for the Ryko thing, I believe that Ryko own the distribution rights for
"Livonia" and "Home Is In Your Head" in the United States. Since this is an
American film and the soundtrack is released by an American label, it would
make sense to me why they nodded to Ryko in the liner notes -- even if it's
distributed by a Canadian label up yonder. I don't think the folks who
write liner notes for film soundtracks (or any recording, for that
matter--unless the notes are written by a band member) are generally that
precise and detail-oriented anyway.
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:38:03 -0600
I've been searching for some interesting new bands to listen to.
I've been really out of touch with the current music scene for the
last year, finishing up my last year of college. Some of my favorite
bands are Cocteau Twins, MBV, Slowdive, Lush, HMIA. Can anyone suggest
some other bands (in the realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that
they like.
Thanks Micheal Ellis, Mortville [email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:29:24 -0800
J. Srilank, King of Thislisty Tape-Swap Reviews, wrote:
>as for your pre Air Miami query, Unrest has had a lot of material out there.
>The aforementioned _Tink of S.E._, _Kustom..._, and _malcom x park_ as I
>understand way out of print...but there was rumour that Mark was going to
>re-issue. There is the _F*ck pussy galore (and all her friends)_ re-issue on
>Matador/Teen beat which is nice in the kollectors standpoint in that it
>culminates all those early rare Unrest singles, *but* overall musical
>content? Let's just say that it's not a repeat player in my cd changer.
_Tink of S.E._ is included (in its entirety) on _Fuck Pussy Galore_ (sorry, i'm
willing to be crude if that's a bands wish). i think they used its other title,
_State Champs LP_. . .
> That Unrest distinction lies with the impeccable _Imperial ffrr_ lp which
>IMHO was Mark's pinnacle of creative output. Catchy, infectious, and
>overflowing with pop potential sensibility this *was* to be the beginning of
>things to come.
does everyone realize that the Guernica version of _Imperial ffrr_ is much
longer than the US Matador/No.6 reissue? contains most of the tracks from
_Isabel Bishop_ ("Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl," "Wednesday & Proud") as well as
a 13+ minute a-cappella revision of "Imperial" ("Full Frequency") and the
infamous "Hydrofoil No. 1" (lyrics appear in US booklet, but song does not).
Much nicer artwork as well.
>> Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.
they have the respect and approval of the deities in Bark Psychosis.
that's enough for me. :)
has anyone heard of a Curve album called _Clearbury Ring_? It's a full-length
100% legitimate release, but it's almost completely 'forgotten'. it's their
experimental "ambient" album - inspired by the 'magick' of the English
countryside. i just tracked a copy down. will give a report (if the music is
worth it...) once it arrives.
new Quickspace single ("Rise") is wonderful. pretty unique sound for a band that
was never very big on originality. Opal meets Jessamine comes to mind. . .
over n' out-
GuerillaG2-G4
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:59:46 -0500
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
> It's that time of year and I'm mulling over what to put in my top ten
> list. In the running so far are [not yet really in order]:
>
> Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just
> wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments...
Oooo, good idea. I know my Top 5 without doubt because I had to come up
with that list last Sunday so that the store where I work could print all
employee Top 5 lists on their flyer. Here's what I got...
1)Cibo Matto-"Viva La Woman"
2)Failure-"Fantastic Planet"
3)Cake-"Fashion Nugget"
4)Splashdown-"Stars and Garters" (many of you may like this. It's been
likened to Portishead, Curve, the Cranberries, Bjork etc...)
5)Golden Palominos-"Dead Inside"
6)Rollerskate Skinny-"Horsedrawn Wishes"
Hmmm, i think in there also would be Ruby, Once Blue, KMFDM, and Lisa
Germano.
Love to hear what everyone else liked.
Jill
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:47:07 +0000
Jens Alfke wrote:
> Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just
> wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments...
Interesting; not a single 4AD release on your list. Here's my
contribution to "conversation or arguments":
His Name Is Alive "Stars On ESP"
Rachel's "The Sea And The Bells"
Barry Adamson "Oedipus Schmoedipus"
Half String "A Fascination With Heights"
Scenic "Acquatica"
Beck "Odelay"
R.E.M. "New Adventures In Hi-Fi"
Lisa Germano "Love Circus"
DJ Spooky "Songs Of A Dead Dreamer"
Various "Monsters, Robots, and Bug Men"
Probably not the actual top ten list, since I typed it off the top of my
head...ten fine albums, nonetheless.
--
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
{ceci n'est pas un site web}
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:40:51 -0600
> >and about red house painters, from what ive gathered from other people's
> >posts, it appears RHP is touring with them....ive never heard them before,
> >what are they like? are they more of a noisy type 4ad band (like the pixies
> >and breeders) or more mellow?
>
> This is a joke, right?
>
Hey, come on now... no need to be mean. After all, I had only heard
Insides for the first time today, and just listened to (and
subsequently picked up) Air Miami for the first time about ten days
ago. We can't all have been so cool as to have heard these bands the
day their albums were released or even earlier.
To answer the original poster's question, they are definately more
mellow. So, mellow, in fact that they bore they hell out of me.
i'm glad you said that. you're braver than me, but i agree wholeheartedly.
There are, however, many of their fans on this list who will probably
be more than happy to tell you how wonderful they are. All I can say
is very slow, melancholy, slow, soft, slow, guitar-oriented
(sometimes acoustic, sometimes not), slow,.... Did I mention that
they were slow? Not really my cup of tea, but if you haven't been
turned off by what I've said give it a chance or at least listen to
what I'm sure will be the numerous descriptions of rhp to follow.
all. After all, I absolutely love Slowdive's _Pygmalion_, but then
that's just a work of pure genius.
Speaking of Air Miami, I gave their _Me, Me, Me_ cd a listen in the
store a week or so ago, and at first the thoughts I had were
something like "okay pop, really nothing that demands that I purchase
it" but somehow the melodies stuck in my head as I listened to the
other cds I had picked out, like a cancer it just grew and grew and
next thing I knew I had purchased the cd (along with Bowery
Electric's _Beat_, which I love) and I took it home and looked at the
cd in my hands and I was thinking to myself "what the hell did I buy
this thing for? It's really not that remarkable." And I put it on
and I can't stop listening to the damn thing!! Over and over, I've
got World Cup Fever (which I will of course have to play as a prelude
to the USA-Costa Rica rematch Saturday, hopefully we won't play like
a bunch of 6 year olds like we did on the 1st, but I digress) or
something. I just find myself addicted to this stuff, especially the
ones Bridget sings on, like "Seabird", "Afternoon Train" (which I've
had playing through my head all night--"why does anybody say anything
they say, anyway?" over and over and over; last night it was
"Seabird"), and "The Event Horizon", but I like all of them. And I
realize that there is nothing intellectually interesting about this
band but hell, let's face it--despite all of our attempts to
intellectualize what we do music is fundametally just an emotional
thing and it all boils down to if you like it you just have to go
with that and be happy. And it's not nearly as shameful as, say, Ace
of Bass which I'll just go ahead and admit that I liked some of their
singles and I refuse to be made to feel ashamed for that; I'm sure
we've all got our secret pop enjoyment that we wouldn't want to
admit, but we'll all just sneak into our rooms and I'll listen to my
Ace of Bass and Mr. Roy can have his Chris Isaac (there, you've been
outed!), and you all can have whatever it is you listen to.
Does anybody else notice any similarities to Bridget's Air Miami
songs and some of Mariel's Pale Saints work?
So now we get to the actual point of this, which was for me to ask if
some kind soul would be willing to give me some information about
this evil Mark Robinson. I have the Trouser Press, which details the
career of Unrest with the releases of the _Tink of S.E_. ep and
_Malcolm X Park_ and _Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation_. So what did
they do after that, and what does it sound like? Is there any more
Air Miami to be had, and how does it compare to _Me, Me, Me_? And
finally, I've heard that Mark is now in something called Olympic
Death Squad, and now that it's been resolved that it is not about
Atlanta I would like to know if anything has been recorded under that
moniker, how it compares with earlier stuff, who's in it, etc etc.
In short I'm hoping some very nice listmember with time on their
hands would be willing to post some in-depth history of mr. robinson.
this isn't terribly in-depth, but i too have the inexplicable unrest addiction
that you mentioned and my advice to a fellow addict is to go right out and buy
anything you can find by goya. very nice. i also thoroughly enjoy bridget,
but though i really like mariel as well, i hadn't made that connection yet.
i'll have to take another listen and see. the evil mark robinson does so much
stuff that you have to be more fanatical than i to keep up with it all, but my
only recommendation of stuff to avoid is anything done before isabel bishop.
don't feel bad about liking ace of base. pop is only bad if it's all you like!
layne
thanks
[email protected]
oh, and do I recommend _Me, Me, Me_? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Anyone with
any susceptibility to pop infection should stay away from this
thing--it's a fucking beast! ;)
Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:29:03 -0800
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Gil Gershman (GuerillaG) wrote:
> has anyone heard of a Curve album called _Clearbury Ring_? It's a full-length
> 100% legitimate release, but it's almost completely 'forgotten'. it's their
> experimental "ambient" album - inspired by the 'magick' of the English
> countryside. i just tracked a copy down. will give a report (if the music is
> worth it...) once it arrives.
That's a different group, I'm afraid. I can't remember where they're from
but they formed before the UK Curve and at times have been known as
Curve Sr. I don't know what they sound like.
aaron
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:53:20 -0500
I don't think they're all that great. I had the CD but sold it shortly.
It's boring stuff -- they have a decent sound, but they don't really do
anything with it. Besides, according to Mark Kozelek at RHP's recent NYC
concert, they ripped off a song of his! (And he did this awesome parody of
Spain's rather cheesy vocal style!)
; ed
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:13:23 -0800
>>The immediate impression I got was that [the false Bleach are] another one of
>these
>>contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
>>various shoegazer cliches.
>
>Ick. The thing -- okay, _one_ of the things -- that bugs me about these
>Xtian alternabands is that they're mostly blatant ripoffs of other
>alternabands. There's the Xtian equivalent of U2, the Xtian equivalent of
>Ride, the Xtian equivalent of Pearl Jam, et cetera. Of course, U2
>themselves are pretty Xtian, but it's not their sole gimmick. Ditto the
>dearly beloved Innocence Mission, who are equally sublime whether or not
>you care that some of their songs are about the Virgin Mary...
Good point! I used to run a little 'zine reviewing Christian alternabands
back in '91. One of my biggest disappointments with most (but not all) of
those bands was that their art was simply a medium for their rigid message.
The really good bands usually lost their contracts or could never get
signed in the first place, leading the entire industry to limit itself to
Amy Grant/Michael W. Smith sound-alikes.
A few bands still view art as a reason in and of itself (like
Michaelangelo, Rembrandt and other Christian artists did!:) but they are
quite rare. Here's the *very* short list of good bands I know of that are
also Christian...
The Ocean Blue - I miss the sax & keyboards, but these guys are still one
of my faves.
His Name Is Alive - "Stars on ESP" is one of my favorite Gospel albums of
all time. I would really like to hang out in Warren Defever's church
sometime...
Starflyer 59 - When all the other "shoegazers" are dumping the sound to go
retro or "riot-grrl", S59 continues to punch into uncharted territory. They
just got the old guitarist from The Prayer Chain, so their next album
should sound even better than "Silver" or "Gold"
Morella's Forest - Much more radio-ready than S59, and therefore less
adventurous, but their guitarist/leader is a hell (or should I say
'heaven'?) of a musician.
Over The Rhine - The third album by this Cincinnati-based artfolkdream
outfit was a disappointment, but "Til We Have Faces" and "Patience" were
incredible. Their style is somewhat in the
ToriAmos-Sundays-InnocenceMission area with ample measures of literary and
Beat Poetry references tossed in the mix.
Velour 100 - Female vocals over gentle musiks and fully produced by Warren
Defever of HNIA fame. Their album "Fall Sounds" is great as the second side
of my Low "The Curtain Hits the Cast" cassette.
The Innocence Mission - You MUST see them in concert.
(BTW, S59, Morella and Velour are all on an odd little label called Tooth &
Nail Records. I wonder if they are the only Christian label that dares put
out art? Sad, very sad...)
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It will be from drinking every drop of your soul
And running till I sweat your spirit."
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:18:15 -0800
>
>Biggest disappointments: probably either the Cocteau Twins' "Milk &
>Kisses" or Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". Not that I
>actively dislike either one, they just didn't at all live up to the
>ultrahype.
well you said you where posting this to start conversation/arguements so im
gonna disagree with you on milk and kisses...i think its a good effort by
CT, and since we already had "four calendar cafe" we had an inkling as to
where "milk and kisses" would land. and i think its got some good gems on
it, such as "seekers who are lovers"
it cant compare at all to their older stuff IMO, but it still is a decent
lil album...
Matt
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:10:37 -0500
I have heard a few good Christian bands when the artists ignore the message
and concentrate on the music: Eva O., Human Drama (that's what I heard and
lyrics support it), Eventide, and heard some Projekt bands were religious
(Jewish and Christian). I do have some things to say about the following
bands though.
<< A few bands still view art as a reason in and of itself (like
Michaelangelo, Rembrandt and other Christian artists did!:) but they are
quite rare. Here's the *very* short list of good bands I know of that are
also Christian...
It is generally believed that Michaelangelo was quite a humanist and may have
detested Christianity (based on journals and additions in his paintings). He
painted for the Church, but because it was a job and under penalty of law.
Rembrandt supposedly went through terrible fits of faith.
The Ocean Blue - I miss the sax & keyboards, but these guys are still one
of my faves.
They are "Christian", but any band who throws out a band member because that
member is gay is not cool. I don't have a problem with people believing
something is sinful, but they said some pretty rude stuff about the guy
afterward (just because he was gay). His sexuality shouldn't have been an
issue at all.
His Name Is Alive - "Stars on ESP" is one of my favorite Gospel albums of
all time. I would really like to hang out in Warren Defever's church
sometime...
I love the album and gospel tinge. But Warren Defever has said repeatedly in
interviews that he is not particularly religious.
Velour 100 - Female vocals over gentle musiks and fully produced by Warren
Defever of HNIA fame. Their album "Fall Sounds" is great as the second side
of my Low "The Curtain Hits the Cast" cassette.
Wish I could find this album.
The Innocence Mission - You MUST see them in concert.
They are cool.
I also saw some articles about musicians who are religious and Tanya Donneley
was on that list.
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:18:43 -0500
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Mrs. John Murphy wrote:
> I've been searching for some interesting new bands to listen to.
> I've been really out of touch with the current music scene for the
> last year, finishing up my last year of college. Some of my favorite
> bands are Cocteau Twins, MBV, Slowdive, Lush, HMIA. Can anyone suggest
> some other bands (in the realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that
> they like.
>
i'm gonna take this opportunity to recommend something
almost completely notlisty, but nonetheless worthy
of praise. it is not yet available domestically in
the usa, but SUEDE's new LP entitled "coming up" is
fantastic. you can get it on import, and if you'd like a
taster, one of their recent singles entitled "beautiful ones" has
some killer b-sides. a nine-dollar gamble you will most likely
thank me for.
there. i said it.
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:56:01 -0500
Yeah, as far as I know, Bleach have broken up. I always liked them, though,
and have Killing Time as well as their self-titled Bleach (a compilation of
early singles), most of which is great. They are more raw,
rough-round-the-edges sort of thing that somehow got lumped into the
shoegazer business because a few of their songs are along those lines.
IMO, their later work was by far their best. EPs like "Hard" and "Fast"
were excellent, and definitely showed more guitar-playing ability than did
previous work. I've been trying to get my hands on "Hard" and "Fast" for
some time, but they're pretty tough to find.
I haven't seen this disc you speak of, but doubt that it's the same Bleach.
But, you never know.
>The
>>immediate impression I got was that they're another one of these
>>contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
>>various shoegazer cliches.
Is this a common problem? I don't think I've ever encountered such a
band--unless of course you're referring to bands like The Ocean Blue and The
Innocence Mission--but I wouldn't say they were contemporary Christian acts
by a long shot, though.
Mike
[email protected]
At 04:47 PM 12/11/96 EST, you wrote:
>Okay, now didn't the band Bleach break up? I'm talking about the band
>that put out an album called _Killing Time_ on Dali in the US, plus
>several other single/EPs and mini-albums that were only released in the
>UK.
>
>I saw an album by Bleach at Best Buy a couple nights ago - it was called
>_Space_, was released by Forefront here in the US, and the very Majesty
>Crush-esque sleeve had a picture on the back of five people, none of whom
>appeared to be Sally (that was the singer's name, right?), or even
>female, for that matter. I'm assuming that this is some newer band that
>was so stupid they thought the name Bleach hadn't yet been taken?
>
>Anyway, just curious...
>
>---Jeremy
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:28:51 -0800
I said...
>>The Ocean Blue - I miss the sax & keyboards, but these guys are still one
>>of my faves.
Then Aaron Hill said...
>They are "Christian", but any band who throws out a band member because that
>member is gay is not cool. I don't have a problem with people believing
>something is sinful, but they said some pretty rude stuff about the guy
>afterward (just because he was gay). His sexuality shouldn't have been an
>issue at all.
I just recently heard about that whole controversy. From what little I
know, I heard that the departure was mutual and somewhat amicable. Steve
Lau, the keyboard/saxophonist for the band, came "out" somewhere in between
their first and second album. He stayed on through the third album and
final EP (about three years of being out and in the band) then left during
their last tour about a year ago to start his own label through Warner. I
may be mistaken, but from what I understand, the rumors surrounding the
split were worse than what really happened.
>> His Name Is Alive - "Stars on ESP" is one of my favorite Gospel albums of
>> all time. I would really like to hang out in Warren Defever's church
>> sometime...
>
>I love the album and gospel tinge. But Warren Defever has said repeatedly in
>interviews that he is not particularly religious.
One of my favorite things about HNIA is that I have no clue where they're
coming from spiritually. When they do throw in some allusions to religion,
they are often too odd to classify (like everything else they do!:). Most
the bands I put in my original post don't wear their faith on their sleeve,
or shove it down the listener's ear canal; it just naturally shows up in
their art.
>I also saw some articles about musicians who are religious and Tanya Donneley
>was on that list.
I also saw supermodel Kathy Ireland interviewed on Comedy Central saying
that she now teaches Sunday school. I'd like to see the line to get into
that class! :)
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"If I'm ever really drunk
It will be from drinking every drop of your soul
And running till I sweat your spirit."
-- Over the Rhine
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:30:54 -0500
>has anyone heard of a Curve album called _Clearbury Ring_? It's a full-length
>100% legitimate release, but it's almost completely 'forgotten'. it's their
>experimental "ambient" album - inspired by the 'magick' of the English
>countryside. i just tracked a copy down. will give a report (if the music is
>worth it...) once it arrives.
You're the first person I've ever heard mention it. I found one copy in a
store, bought it, and simply don't understand it. It sounds nothing like
Curve. Not that it's bad, just completely different: no vocals, no heavy
beats, thinner textures. I would question whether it's the same Curve
except that the band name is clearly in the same font.
I found it during the period when the band was broken up. Do you know when
it was recorded?
John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
Michigan State University
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:18:29 -0800
Michael Ellis writes: "Can anyone suggest some other bands (in the
realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that they like."
Two non-4AD artists come to mind:
- the blue nile
- jane siberry
The Blue Nile, with only three albums to their name, is a wonderful,
dreamy, and textured Scottish trio. Jane Siberry is an
underappreciated canadian artist with one of the strongest albums to
come out in years ("when I was a boy").
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:31:14 -0500
Maybe all the 4AD fans can help me out. Kim Deal will be doing a small
handful of dates soon and she is interested in knowing what her fans (the
real ones) want to hear. Thus I was hoping everyone could email a list of
their 10 Favorite Breeders/Amps songs. You can return the email to the list
but it would be easier if you could send it directly to me at
[email protected]
Thanks for your help
Rich Holtzman
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:34:04 -0500
Velour 100 lost their lead singer pretty recently, I'm not exactly sure
when but awhile back I saw the lead singer, Amon (we've known each other
for a while) told me she quit her band, and well, her band was Velour
100. It' s too bad. I really liked her voice but I guess it
was to much with school and all.
Anyway that's all I know, I've been busy with school also.
Jes
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:29:04 +0000
>...and there are several other things I haven't heard yet such as
>Labradford, Bowery Electric, 3rd Eye Foundation, Seefeel, Rachel's, etc.
^^^^^^^^
This reminds me - I haven't heard the new Rachel's CD yet. I got their
'Music For Egon Schiele' CD a few months ago and thought it was great. Can
anyone supply a review of the new one? I think that it is more of an
ensemble piece, rather than just the piano/viola/cello (or whatever) of the
one I already have.
Anyways, I haven't seen the new Rachel's in my sunburnt country yet, so I
have to order it from USofA if I want it - so any comments as tall would be
very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Geoff
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:36:00 -0800
Julia Fordham's new album to be produced by 4AD's Michael Brook...
``The latest on the album is that it will be released in March. Julia
wrote some more songs, played them to the record company who said two of
them just had to be on the album so she has to go into the studio again.
But the delay has been due to waiting for the producer, Michael Brooke
to be available.
``The album will be called East West. I have seen the album cover photos
and they look gorgeous. A yellow theme. A guitar maker is busy making
Julia a customised yellow guitar. A guitar case has already been sprayed
yellow. She will be touring the USA and UK to promote the album and you
will be the first to know exactly when and where.''
--Claire Cross
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:50:19 -0500
>>Besides, according to Mark Kozelek at RHP's recent NYC concert, they ripped
off a song of his! (And he did this awesome parody of Spain's rather cheesy
vocal style!)<<
Mark Kozelek's whining sounds so much better when he backs it with music.
It's actually funny because I just saw Neil Young and Crazy Horse in concert
and they do rollicking rendition of 'Make Like Paper'.
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:41:22 +0000
G'day,
>
>I've been searching for some interesting new bands to listen to.
>I've been really out of touch with the current music scene for the
>last year, finishing up my last year of college. Some of my favorite
>bands are Cocteau Twins, MBV, Slowdive, Lush, HMIA. Can anyone suggest
>some other bands (in the realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that
>they like.
>
> Thanks Micheal Ellis, Mortville [email protected]
One band you might like is Australian band Underground Lovers. They did have
a release on 4AD called 'Leaves Me Blind', which is kind of shoegazy in a
way. They did an album called 'Dream It Down' which is more mellow, one
great shoegazy toon called 'Superstar' which then seques straight into a
string version called 'Supernova' - fantastic stuff. This release has some
great acoustic/stringy toons, and electronica, and.... the lot basically.
Another band that you might like is English band Siritualized. They are into
a kind of droney/ambient thang. Check out 'Pure Phase', or 'Lazer Guided
Melodies', and the 'Feel So Sad' CD single for the 13-minute title track.
Ummm...I picked up Labradford's 'A Stable Reference' CD a few months ago -
that is ambient guitar/bass, kinda droney, with vocals way down in the mix.
Really good.
If you don't already, I would rush out and get all the This Mortal Coil
releases as well. And if you like Slowdive's 'Souvlaki', then you might also
enjiy Talk Talk's 'Spirit of Eden' and 'Laughing Stock'. This is the period
where Talk Talk stopped being a pop band and went for longer, sparser,
slower songs, with strings, etc.
Anyway, enough for now. Good lick searching for new toons
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:25:27 EST
---from Matt Greer (quoting...Jens?):
> > Biggest disappointments: probably either the Cocteau Twins' "Milk &
> > Kisses" or Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". Not that
I
> > actively dislike either one, they just didn't at all live up to the
ultrahype.
[Was there much hype for _M&K_? I've been sorta out of the loop this
year...I never even saw a video from the album.]
> well you said you where posting this to start conversation/arguements
> so im gonna disagree with you on milk and kisses...i think its a good
> effort by CT, and since we already had "four calendar cafe" we had an
> inkling as to where "milk and kisses" would land. and i think its got
> some good gems on it, such as "seekers who are lovers"
>
> it cant compare at all to their older stuff IMO, but it still is a
decent
> album
"A good effort"? Being one of those people that loves their older stuff,
I suppose I'm going to get written off as one of those "whining maggots
on the World Wide Web" that pines for the good old days of 1987 or
whatever, but come on. _Milk_&_Kisses_ is...well, I don't hate it, but
it's just so stunningly mediocre that I can't get worked up enough about
it to bother hating it. But "a good effort"? Isn't that pretty much
like saying "nice try"? Sorry, but I'm going to have to be a little more
critical than that.
I thought "Tishbite" (the single version) was tolerable at first, and I
liked some of the b-sides (especially "An Elan" and "Round") pretty well,
so after hating most of _Four-Calendar_Cafe_, maybe my hopes were too
high for _M&K_.
First, I love "Violaine". I even think it's one of the best songs
they've ever done, even though I wish they'd come up with some sort of
introduction for it, rather than just blaring in. I like the second
track a lot, too...and since I have one of the "Violaine" singles, it's
the only thing that keeps me from selling the album. For some reason,
the longer version of "Tishbite" on the album really annoys me. The
silly organ part, which is mixed less obtrusively for the single, has got
to go, although it's still not as bad as the organ part in the "still a
junkie for it" song (sorry, don't have the CD here in front of me).
And it just gets worse from there. I remember listening to it in the
car, on the way to work after having just bought it, and by the time I'd
gotten to the 8th or 9th track, thinking "man, I wish this would hurry up
and end so I can put in something good". Considering that they
immediately had me in the palm of their collective hand when I first
heard _The_Pink_Opaque_ back in 1989...to think that now their current
output inspires such revulsion is pretty sad.
Also, I think it's funny that people that say they like the album always
point to "Seekers Who Are Lovers" as being one of their favorite tracks.
It seems like basically, this album, along with _FCC_, divides the camp
into those who can handle cheese and those who can't. The one saving
grace is that I didn't find the lyrics to be nearly as audible as they
were on the last album.
As for the top ten stuff, well, I think I'll bow out of the voting this
time around. I've heard maybe a dozen new releases this year, so
technically, _M&K_ might even make it onto my list by default! But if
anyone of any genre put out an album as arresting, intense, and flat-out
brilliant as Jawbox's self-titled album, I'd be surprised. ;G)
(Oh, and if anyone got the Simpsons reference in the subject line...could
they also tell me whether or not there is a Simpsons-related mailing
list..? Or am I gonna have to start one?)
---Jeremy
"!"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:51:10 -0600
from "jawolfe" at Dec 12, 96 03:34:04 pm
>
> Velour 100 lost their lead singer pretty recently, I'm not exactly sure
> when but awhile back I saw the lead singer, Amon (we've known each other
> for a while) told me she quit her band, and well, her band was Velour
> 100. It' s too bad. I really liked her voice but I guess it
> was to much with school and all.
> Anyway that's all I know, I've been busy with school also.
> Jes
>
i've read that tess wiley from phantasmic, sydney from morella's
forest, and karin oliver from hnia will share vocal duties on the next
velour 100 album. all three have beautiful voices, so it will
probably be wonderful.
jason
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:47:30 -0800
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Jeff Keibel wrote:
> ``The album will be called East West. I have seen the album cover photos
> and they look gorgeous. A yellow theme. A guitar maker is busy making
> Julia a customised yellow guitar. A guitar case has already been sprayed
> yellow. She will be touring the USA and UK to promote the album and you
> will be the first to know exactly when and where.''
Songs For A Yellow Guitar?