Subject: Top N in progress
Subject: Re: spain
Subject: Re: His Name Is Jerry Maquire
Subject: Seach For New Music
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: air miami
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Spain
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Subject: Re: Top N in progress
Subject: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Seach For New Music
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Unrest/Curve
Subject: Seach For New Music -Reply
Subject: Kim Deal has a question
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Review of new Rachel's ???
Subject: Julia Only
Subject: Japanese to Spanish
Subject: Re: Seach For New Music
Subject: Mud & Cookies
Subject: Re: Christian Bands?
Subject: Re: Julia Only
Subject: Xtian bands (was: Re: Bleach?)
Subject: Deal Of A Century
It's that time of year and I'm mulling over what to put in my top ten list. In the running so far are [not yet really in order]: Amp "Sirenes" (only had it two weeks but it may be destined for #1) Underworld "2nd Toughest In the Infants" Salt "Auscultate" Seely "Julie Only" Elysian Fields "Bleed Your Cedar" Husikesque "Green Blue Fire" Stereolab "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" Scala "Lips & Heaven" ?? Beck "Odelay" ?? ...and there are several other things I haven't heard yet such as Labradford, Bowery Electric, 3rd Eye Foundation, Seefeel, Rachel's, etc. that might otherwise go on the list. And didn't FSA put out an album this year? Biggest disappointments: probably either the Cocteau Twins' "Milk & Kisses" or Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". Not that I actively dislike either one, they just didn't at all live up to the ultrahype. I'm having more trouble filling out the list than in previous years, which indicates it may have been a weak year, but there were several very fine albums released. And my CD budget has been lower, too, so there's more stuff I just haven't heard. Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments...
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Matt Greer wrote: > when I saw the cocteau twins on their tour this past summer, a band > called spain opened for em...they where kinda cool and I wouldnt mind > checking em out, but i cant seem to find anything by them anywhere...it > could be because i live in a dinky little town with pathetic record stores, > but anyone out there know of/own any of their stuff? > > > Matt > > btw-i just picked up slowdive's "souvlaki" based on what ive heard about em > from this mailing list and I must say I love it.... > As far as I know, Spain only have one full length release: "The Blue Moods of Spain". It is an absolutely fantastic. You MUST have the disc in your collection. It didn't seem to be hard to find. It was just sitting there on the shelf, no special order or anything... How po-dunk of a town do you live in? I got it at Media Play I think. Geez, if they have it, every store probably does....
At 12:43 PM 12/11/96 -0800, you wrote: >The song is called >"Sitting Still Moving Still Staring Outlooking", which is from the "Home >Is In Your Head" album. The liner notes mention (p) 1991 4AD Ryko. Odd >that it would mention Ryko in this Canadian version as Ryko has nothing >to do with HNIA here. This is way cool...If I'm not mistaken, isn't this also the first soundtrack appearance of HNIA? (In a Hollywood soundtrack, that is; they may be on some obscure indie film soundtracks or something). As for the Ryko thing, I believe that Ryko own the distribution rights for "Livonia" and "Home Is In Your Head" in the United States. Since this is an American film and the soundtrack is released by an American label, it would make sense to me why they nodded to Ryko in the liner notes -- even if it's distributed by a Canadian label up yonder. I don't think the folks who write liner notes for film soundtracks (or any recording, for that matter--unless the notes are written by a band member) are generally that precise and detail-oriented anyway. Mike iceblink@tiac.net
I've been searching for some interesting new bands to listen to.
I've been really out of touch with the current music scene for the
last year, finishing up my last year of college. Some of my favorite
bands are Cocteau Twins, MBV, Slowdive, Lush, HMIA. Can anyone suggest
some other bands (in the realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that
they like.
Thanks Micheal Ellis, Mortville TallMan1@ix.netcom.com
J. Srilank, King of Thislisty Tape-Swap Reviews, wrote:
>as for your pre Air Miami query, Unrest has had a lot of material out there.
>The aforementioned _Tink of S.E._, _Kustom..._, and _malcom x park_ as I
>understand way out of print...but there was rumour that Mark was going to
>re-issue. There is the _F*ck pussy galore (and all her friends)_ re-issue on
>Matador/Teen beat which is nice in the kollectors standpoint in that it
>culminates all those early rare Unrest singles, *but* overall musical
>content? Let's just say that it's not a repeat player in my cd changer.
_Tink of S.E._ is included (in its entirety) on _Fuck Pussy Galore_ (sorry, i'm
willing to be crude if that's a bands wish). i think they used its other title,
_State Champs LP_. . .
> That Unrest distinction lies with the impeccable _Imperial ffrr_ lp which
>IMHO was Mark's pinnacle of creative output. Catchy, infectious, and
>overflowing with pop potential sensibility this *was* to be the beginning of
>things to come.
does everyone realize that the Guernica version of _Imperial ffrr_ is much
longer than the US Matador/No.6 reissue? contains most of the tracks from
_Isabel Bishop_ ("Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl," "Wednesday & Proud") as well as
a 13+ minute a-cappella revision of "Imperial" ("Full Frequency") and the
infamous "Hydrofoil No. 1" (lyrics appear in US booklet, but song does not).
Much nicer artwork as well.
>> Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.
they have the respect and approval of the deities in Bark Psychosis.
that's enough for me. :)
has anyone heard of a Curve album called _Clearbury Ring_? It's a full-length
100% legitimate release, but it's almost completely 'forgotten'. it's their
experimental "ambient" album - inspired by the 'magick' of the English
countryside. i just tracked a copy down. will give a report (if the music is
worth it...) once it arrives.
new Quickspace single ("Rise") is wonderful. pretty unique sound for a band that
was never very big on originality. Opal meets Jessamine comes to mind. . .
over n' out-
GuerillaG2-G4
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Jens Alfke wrote: > It's that time of year and I'm mulling over what to put in my top ten > list. In the running so far are [not yet really in order]: > > Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just > wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments... Oooo, good idea. I know my Top 5 without doubt because I had to come up with that list last Sunday so that the store where I work could print all employee Top 5 lists on their flyer. Here's what I got... 1)Cibo Matto-"Viva La Woman" 2)Failure-"Fantastic Planet" 3)Cake-"Fashion Nugget" 4)Splashdown-"Stars and Garters" (many of you may like this. It's been likened to Portishead, Curve, the Cranberries, Bjork etc...) 5)Golden Palominos-"Dead Inside" 6)Rollerskate Skinny-"Horsedrawn Wishes" Hmmm, i think in there also would be Ruby, Once Blue, KMFDM, and Lisa Germano. Love to hear what everyone else liked. Jill
Jens Alfke wrote:
> Once I get things more finalized I'll send out the real list. I just
> wanted to post this to start some conversation or arguments...
Interesting; not a single 4AD release on your list. Here's my
contribution to "conversation or arguments":
His Name Is Alive "Stars On ESP"
Rachel's "The Sea And The Bells"
Barry Adamson "Oedipus Schmoedipus"
Half String "A Fascination With Heights"
Scenic "Acquatica"
Beck "Odelay"
R.E.M. "New Adventures In Hi-Fi"
Lisa Germano "Love Circus"
DJ Spooky "Songs Of A Dead Dreamer"
Various "Monsters, Robots, and Bug Men"
Probably not the actual top ten list, since I typed it off the top of my
head...ten fine albums, nonetheless.
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> >and about red house painters, from what ive gathered from other people's > >posts, it appears RHP is touring with them....ive never heard them before, > >what are they like? are they more of a noisy type 4ad band (like the pixies > >and breeders) or more mellow? > > This is a joke, right? > Hey, come on now... no need to be mean. After all, I had only heard Insides for the first time today, and just listened to (and subsequently picked up) Air Miami for the first time about ten days ago. We can't all have been so cool as to have heard these bands the day their albums were released or even earlier. To answer the original poster's question, they are definately more mellow. So, mellow, in fact that they bore they hell out of me. i'm glad you said that. you're braver than me, but i agree wholeheartedly. There are, however, many of their fans on this list who will probably be more than happy to tell you how wonderful they are. All I can say is very slow, melancholy, slow, soft, slow, guitar-oriented (sometimes acoustic, sometimes not), slow,.... Did I mention that they were slow? Not really my cup of tea, but if you haven't been turned off by what I've said give it a chance or at least listen to what I'm sure will be the numerous descriptions of rhp to follow. all. After all, I absolutely love Slowdive's _Pygmalion_, but then that's just a work of pure genius. Speaking of Air Miami, I gave their _Me, Me, Me_ cd a listen in the store a week or so ago, and at first the thoughts I had were something like "okay pop, really nothing that demands that I purchase it" but somehow the melodies stuck in my head as I listened to the other cds I had picked out, like a cancer it just grew and grew and next thing I knew I had purchased the cd (along with Bowery Electric's _Beat_, which I love) and I took it home and looked at the cd in my hands and I was thinking to myself "what the hell did I buy this thing for? It's really not that remarkable." And I put it on and I can't stop listening to the damn thing!! Over and over, I've got World Cup Fever (which I will of course have to play as a prelude to the USA-Costa Rica rematch Saturday, hopefully we won't play like a bunch of 6 year olds like we did on the 1st, but I digress) or something. I just find myself addicted to this stuff, especially the ones Bridget sings on, like "Seabird", "Afternoon Train" (which I've had playing through my head all night--"why does anybody say anything they say, anyway?" over and over and over; last night it was "Seabird"), and "The Event Horizon", but I like all of them. And I realize that there is nothing intellectually interesting about this band but hell, let's face it--despite all of our attempts to intellectualize what we do music is fundametally just an emotional thing and it all boils down to if you like it you just have to go with that and be happy. And it's not nearly as shameful as, say, Ace of Bass which I'll just go ahead and admit that I liked some of their singles and I refuse to be made to feel ashamed for that; I'm sure we've all got our secret pop enjoyment that we wouldn't want to admit, but we'll all just sneak into our rooms and I'll listen to my Ace of Bass and Mr. Roy can have his Chris Isaac (there, you've been outed!), and you all can have whatever it is you listen to. Does anybody else notice any similarities to Bridget's Air Miami songs and some of Mariel's Pale Saints work? So now we get to the actual point of this, which was for me to ask if some kind soul would be willing to give me some information about this evil Mark Robinson. I have the Trouser Press, which details the career of Unrest with the releases of the _Tink of S.E_. ep and _Malcolm X Park_ and _Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation_. So what did they do after that, and what does it sound like? Is there any more Air Miami to be had, and how does it compare to _Me, Me, Me_? And finally, I've heard that Mark is now in something called Olympic Death Squad, and now that it's been resolved that it is not about Atlanta I would like to know if anything has been recorded under that moniker, how it compares with earlier stuff, who's in it, etc etc. In short I'm hoping some very nice listmember with time on their hands would be willing to post some in-depth history of mr. robinson. this isn't terribly in-depth, but i too have the inexplicable unrest addiction that you mentioned and my advice to a fellow addict is to go right out and buy anything you can find by goya. very nice. i also thoroughly enjoy bridget, but though i really like mariel as well, i hadn't made that connection yet. i'll have to take another listen and see. the evil mark robinson does so much stuff that you have to be more fanatical than i to keep up with it all, but my only recommendation of stuff to avoid is anything done before isabel bishop. don't feel bad about liking ace of base. pop is only bad if it's all you like! layne thanks moran@hal-pc.org oh, and do I recommend _Me, Me, Me_? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Anyone with any susceptibility to pop infection should stay away from this thing--it's a fucking beast! ;) Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Gil Gershman (GuerillaG) wrote: > has anyone heard of a Curve album called _Clearbury Ring_? It's a full-length > 100% legitimate release, but it's almost completely 'forgotten'. it's their > experimental "ambient" album - inspired by the 'magick' of the English > countryside. i just tracked a copy down. will give a report (if the music is > worth it...) once it arrives. That's a different group, I'm afraid. I can't remember where they're from but they formed before the UK Curve and at times have been known as Curve Sr. I don't know what they sound like. aaron
I don't think they're all that great. I had the CD but sold it shortly. It's boring stuff -- they have a decent sound, but they don't really do anything with it. Besides, according to Mark Kozelek at RHP's recent NYC concert, they ripped off a song of his! (And he did this awesome parody of Spain's rather cheesy vocal style!) ; ed
>>The immediate impression I got was that [the false Bleach are] another one of
>these
>>contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
>>various shoegazer cliches.
>
>Ick. The thing -- okay, _one_ of the things -- that bugs me about these
>Xtian alternabands is that they're mostly blatant ripoffs of other
>alternabands. There's the Xtian equivalent of U2, the Xtian equivalent of
>Ride, the Xtian equivalent of Pearl Jam, et cetera. Of course, U2
>themselves are pretty Xtian, but it's not their sole gimmick. Ditto the
>dearly beloved Innocence Mission, who are equally sublime whether or not
>you care that some of their songs are about the Virgin Mary...
Good point! I used to run a little 'zine reviewing Christian alternabands
back in '91. One of my biggest disappointments with most (but not all) of
those bands was that their art was simply a medium for their rigid message.
The really good bands usually lost their contracts or could never get
signed in the first place, leading the entire industry to limit itself to
Amy Grant/Michael W. Smith sound-alikes.
A few bands still view art as a reason in and of itself (like
Michaelangelo, Rembrandt and other Christian artists did!:) but they are
quite rare. Here's the *very* short list of good bands I know of that are
also Christian...
The Ocean Blue - I miss the sax & keyboards, but these guys are still one
of my faves.
His Name Is Alive - "Stars on ESP" is one of my favorite Gospel albums of
all time. I would really like to hang out in Warren Defever's church
sometime...
Starflyer 59 - When all the other "shoegazers" are dumping the sound to go
retro or "riot-grrl", S59 continues to punch into uncharted territory. They
just got the old guitarist from The Prayer Chain, so their next album
should sound even better than "Silver" or "Gold"
Morella's Forest - Much more radio-ready than S59, and therefore less
adventurous, but their guitarist/leader is a hell (or should I say
'heaven'?) of a musician.
Over The Rhine - The third album by this Cincinnati-based artfolkdream
outfit was a disappointment, but "Til We Have Faces" and "Patience" were
incredible. Their style is somewhat in the
ToriAmos-Sundays-InnocenceMission area with ample measures of literary and
Beat Poetry references tossed in the mix.
Velour 100 - Female vocals over gentle musiks and fully produced by Warren
Defever of HNIA fame. Their album "Fall Sounds" is great as the second side
of my Low "The Curtain Hits the Cast" cassette.
The Innocence Mission - You MUST see them in concert.
(BTW, S59, Morella and Velour are all on an odd little label called Tooth &
Nail Records. I wonder if they are the only Christian label that dares put
out art? Sad, very sad...)
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> >Biggest disappointments: probably either the Cocteau Twins' "Milk & >Kisses" or Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". Not that I >actively dislike either one, they just didn't at all live up to the >ultrahype. well you said you where posting this to start conversation/arguements so im gonna disagree with you on milk and kisses...i think its a good effort by CT, and since we already had "four calendar cafe" we had an inkling as to where "milk and kisses" would land. and i think its got some good gems on it, such as "seekers who are lovers" it cant compare at all to their older stuff IMO, but it still is a decent lil album... Matt
I have heard a few good Christian bands when the artists ignore the message and concentrate on the music: Eva O., Human Drama (that's what I heard and lyrics support it), Eventide, and heard some Projekt bands were religious (Jewish and Christian). I do have some things to say about the following bands though. << A few bands still view art as a reason in and of itself (like Michaelangelo, Rembrandt and other Christian artists did!:) but they are quite rare. Here's the *very* short list of good bands I know of that are also Christian... It is generally believed that Michaelangelo was quite a humanist and may have detested Christianity (based on journals and additions in his paintings). He painted for the Church, but because it was a job and under penalty of law. Rembrandt supposedly went through terrible fits of faith. The Ocean Blue - I miss the sax & keyboards, but these guys are still one of my faves. They are "Christian", but any band who throws out a band member because that member is gay is not cool. I don't have a problem with people believing something is sinful, but they said some pretty rude stuff about the guy afterward (just because he was gay). His sexuality shouldn't have been an issue at all. His Name Is Alive - "Stars on ESP" is one of my favorite Gospel albums of all time. I would really like to hang out in Warren Defever's church sometime... I love the album and gospel tinge. But Warren Defever has said repeatedly in interviews that he is not particularly religious. Velour 100 - Female vocals over gentle musiks and fully produced by Warren Defever of HNIA fame. Their album "Fall Sounds" is great as the second side of my Low "The Curtain Hits the Cast" cassette. Wish I could find this album. The Innocence Mission - You MUST see them in concert. They are cool. I also saw some articles about musicians who are religious and Tanya Donneley was on that list.
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Mrs. John Murphy wrote:
> I've been searching for some interesting new bands to listen to.
> I've been really out of touch with the current music scene for the
> last year, finishing up my last year of college. Some of my favorite
> bands are Cocteau Twins, MBV, Slowdive, Lush, HMIA. Can anyone suggest
> some other bands (in the realm of etheral,shoegazing, ambient) that
> they like.
>
i'm gonna take this opportunity to recommend something
almost completely notlisty, but nonetheless worthy
of praise. it is not yet available domestically in
the usa, but SUEDE's new LP entitled "coming up" is
fantastic. you can get it on import, and if you'd like a
taster, one of their recent singles entitled "beautiful ones" has
some killer b-sides. a nine-dollar gamble you will most likely
thank me for.
there. i said it.
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