Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Subject: Gus Gus (& others) in NYC THurs!
Subject: *felt*/'primitive painters'
Subject: Re: his name is a house painter.
Subject: Lowlife
Subject: Bowery Beat/ Labradford
Subject: garlands blah blah
Subject: Re: HNIA and red house painters
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Subject: Primitive Painters
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Subject: Re: pure-impure is down...
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lush
Subject: Bleach?
Subject: FREE GUS GUS IN NY TOMORROW
Subject: Air Miami / Unrest / Mark's exploitation
Subject: His Name Is Jerry Maquire
Subject: spain
Subject: Re: garlands blah blah
Subject: UK garlands for 8 bucks
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Subject: Re: spain
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:16:08 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-10 22:19:50 EST, you write:
<< I can't quite think of what it reminds me of... I have their LP
"Gush", and the singer reminds me somewhat of Lawrence from Felt. The music
is something else entirely, but NOT Cocteau-like--not even in the Garlands
>>
It reminds me of a dark New Order. Sort of first album or Ceremony like. I
always imagine it as if Joy DIvision was still together, but with Bernard
singing and Ian Curtis on guitar. Just my impression.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:06:25 -0500
> I'm wracking my brain but I can't seem to remember the name of the
> band that Will Heggy joined after quiting CT. Anyone know? I had
> the CD about ten years ago and someone stole it :-(
lowlife was will heggy's next venture. If someone stole your lowlife cd ten
years ago (and chances are that it's way out of print) and you live in
Alaska, Tennessee, Ohio, or Maine - they can be placed in a correctional
facility for up to 10 years (coincidentally). No kidding.
...*and* it's not just lowlife bagging that gets people in trouble. no, no.
It's _any_ cd, 12", 7", or lp that has been off the presses for more than 7
years. Look it up in the aforementioned state's law books sect. # 14632.21
and # 14632.22.
o.k. maybe it's not an "official" law but dammit it should be.
jason
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:59:08 -0500
Most of the DJs listed are good (if you're into techno and house)
and Electronic Skychurch is a GREAT live
tribal/ambient/electronica band with great vocals (ala dead can
dance, cocteau twins, etc)
hope to see some of you there!
.\.\ichael -- sentinel
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 02:00:54 +0000
> Subject: cool party...
>
> I would like to inform you about a new one @ Irving Plaza, December
> 12th.
>
>
> Here are some info:
>
>
> performances by:
>
> OZ (performing tracks from their debut EP)
>
> Electric Skychurch (Moonshine Records, LA)
>
> Gus Gus (4AD, Iceland)
>
> Moa (Sony Dancepool, Iceland)
>
>
> DJ sets by
>
>
> Darren Emerson (Underworld, UK)
>
> db (Sm:)le Communications, NY)
>
> Marc Anthony (Fluid, NY)
>
> Marcus (Fluid, NY)
>
> Maggi Lego (OZ, Iceland)
>
> Holmar (OZ, NY)
>
>
>
> 9:00pm - 4:00am
>
> December 12 @ Irving Plaza
>
> 17 Irving Place at 15th Street
>
> New York
>
>
> The sponsor for the party is OZ Interactive - http://www.oz-inc.com.
>
>
> Check it out -- be there.. it's FREE! ... But, for Tickets visit OZ
> (booth #2817) during InternetWorld
> the Jacob Javits Center in New York Dec. 11-13, or just call 212 613 0958.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:29:34 +0500
greetings everyone...
ummm...well, i don't want it to seem as tho' i'm trying to capitalise on
this whole sudden interest in felt/their song 'primitive painters', but...
i have for sale an almost-brand-new cd copy of felt's 'absolute classic
masterpieces' (on futurist), which features the aforementioned title, so if
anyone is interested, please e-mail me...
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 03:48:02 -0500
you forgot about the rhp doing "stranglehold.".... classic... only in
detroit...
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:10 -0800
lowlife ware the band will heggie joined after leaving the cocteau twins.
at that time, the band was will heggie (bass), craig lorentson (vocals),
grant mcdowell,
and stuart everest
i have their compilation "from a scream to a whisper" which was released
on nightshift
records in 1990 (lolif7cd) most of their catalog was reissued on cd by
nightshift at that time.
brendan
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:15 -0800
i sent this once, but i haven't seen it appear in the digest....
here are some attempts at descibing some of the excellent kranky music
i've
recently acquired...
\\--------//
bowery electric - beat
(kranky records, krank014, CD/DLP)
simple, catchy basslines anchor the minimalistic guitar drones and
accents. a wonderfully
moody & sedate album. it lulls. while it's obvious that they revere
Slowdive, (less so
here than on their debut,) BE are clearly defining their own character.
this album seems
richer and more varied than their first.
the album's title track, "beat," opens with a simple hypnotic combination
of bass, a single
keyboard chord, drum machine and wonderul scratchy surface-noise. with
margaret's
vocals "words are just words/words are only noise." it approximates
portishead stripped
to the bones.
"empty words" "black light" and "coming down" are all solidly good
slowdive-esque tracks.
the first would have been at home on BE's debut. the latter two feature
lawrence's
vocals on top of margaret's (very neil+rachael-like.)
on both "without stopping" and "fear of flying" the percussion reminds me
of
evanescence-era scorn. beyond that the tone is brooding or hopeful and
dreamy with
some nice subdued whirring noises (likes banks of washing machines in a
laundromat.)
"under the sun" is stark and spooky with reverbed bass and a subdued
noisy background
like (i hear the eraserhead soundtrack.)
"inside out" is a strange courtship - a single guitar chord answering an
inviting bassline
while lazy drums with constant cymbalic shimmer maintain the pace.
there's a warm
relaxing feel here.
"postscript" is a minimal single-chord subtly phasing for 16 minutes.
relaxing, but not
powerful enough to be hypnotic.
//--------\\
\\--------//
labradford - s/t
(kranky krank013) CD/LP
it seems that labradford are still painting brilliantly lonely sonic
landscapes. after creating
exploring the tundra with last year's "a stable reference," they've on
to explore the
deserts of the american southwest.
this album isn't as intense and overwhelmingly gorgeous as ASR (which may
well be one
of my favourite albums ever.) but after a few listens, it is holding up
quite well.
the album opens with "phantom channel crossing" - an subtle instrumental
appetizer
with intermittent clanking chains.
the guitar melody/reverb and violin on "midrange" set the album's vaguely
western
motif.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:06:43 +0000
>>also, aren't the xtra tracks only on the 4AD uk version and not the US
>>release?
>
>Yup. None of the US Capitol releases of any of the albums have any extra
>tracks. In the case of Garlands it is definitely worth the extra $$$ to
>buy the UK 4AD CD.
>
What would be the copyrighting situation for me to use our real audio
server here at Webmedia to broadcast the extra tracks? I could stick 'em
on my homepage.
Would it be the same as in Radio?
Presumably permission would be needed from 4AD.
I'm up for it anyway if it's legal. Beats scurrying around in record shops
buying things.
Regards.
Hankey.
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Merry Christmas people!
Shockwave Xmas card at http://www.choke.net
Kevin Hankey.
Graphic design @ Webmedia
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:12:46 -0500
On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Steven Holmes wrote:
> Subject: Re: HNIA and red house painters
>
> while this is alitlle bit off the current thread, whiel in my local cool
> indie store here in elansing mich, i stumbled across a tape that has both
> HNIA and red house painters, all it says is that, plus 93 and then 4AD
> logo. it has three songs from a self titled red house painters albumn,
> and four from his name is alive, it was only 450, so i bought it, anyone
> have any idea what it is, anyone..
>
there was a 1/4 page advert in the detroit Metro Times
a few years back which was plugging the then-new-release
"mouth by mouth." the ad included a coupon to send in
to 4ad for a free sampler tape. this is the tape in
question. and i suppose that 4ad figured that while
giving away HNIA, they might as well expose the listener
to RHP. This was actually the 1st time i'd ever heard
RHP... guess it worked.
p.s. i think that the version of "the dirt eaters" on
this tape is a demo version, unavailable elsewhere. it
isnt listed as such, but it sounds diffo than on the
official releases....
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:06:53 -0500
At 12:16 AM 12/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-12-10 22:19:50 EST, you write:
>
><< I can't quite think of what it reminds me of... I have their LP
> "Gush", and the singer reminds me somewhat of Lawrence from Felt. The music
> is something else entirely, but NOT Cocteau-like--not even in the Garlands
>>>
>It reminds me of a dark New Order. Sort of first album or Ceremony like. I
>always imagine it as if Joy DIvision was still together, but with Bernard
>singing and Ian Curtis on guitar. Just my impression.
>
Very good description! Late Joy Division/early New Order. And yeah his
voice is more like Bernard Sumner's.
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:05:24 -0500
You can also find this song on a "various artists" CD called
"Ambitious?" ("a compilation of some of England's best alternative
rock"...or something like that)
I picked it up used and have seen it at least three times since.
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:05:33 -0500
I'd have to say Garlands is also my personal fav., but Treasure is a very
close second.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:49:34 -0500
I can't say I noticed the difference from the server just not sending me
most of the digests to it being officially down!
christian
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:00:00 MDT
Okay, Lowlife! That was it!
To anyone's knowledge, are their albums still in print or available
at a decent price anywhere?
'I see the end-
I see the end-
The door was open-
So I came inside-' Rozz Williams
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:49:26 EST
I'm glad someone brought them up...they are a favorite of mine, so
naturally, I'd reccommend that anyone interested check out the
Lowlife home page at http://www.dhp.com/~ash (I think). Kevin Berk
(where are you, Kevin?) runs the US outpost of Anoise Annoys and can
answer all your questions and even sell you a few things. Be warned,
the Lowlife backcatalogue was deleted, stolen or lost years and years
ago, but who knows! I think he's still got copies of "Gush," so buy
'em while you can. A fabulous album which, for some strange reason,
I'd place in the same category as Moose's "Live A Little Love A Lot."
Also, despite the fact that Nightshift (Lowlife's label in
Scotland, run by Brian Guthrie, brother of Robin, as far as I can
remember) *says* that they released the first several albums on CD,
they didn't. That is to say, they planned to, and printed the
specifics into the liner notes of subsequent albums, but it never
actually happened.
Please feel free to correct any of the above facts...there's
gotta be someone out there who knows this stuff better than I.
brian
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:22:08 -0800
On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Elizabeth A Grove wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, heather murray wrote:
>
> > You don't know what Garlands sounds like? Well, It's still wonderful CT
> > stuff, but it's my least favourite of their endeavours, a bit rough around
> > the edges - you can tell, however, that there's something definitely worth
> > having lurking in there - and if you get it on cd now, chances are you'll
> > find it with lots of extra tracks, which is always fun...
> >
> > H.Murray
> >
> > "I love that set of things to say..."
> >
> Garlands is one of my favorite CT. I wish they did a little more of this
> stuff. Instead, they came out w/Head over Heals, boring as hell. However,
> this did lead to much better things.
> also, aren't the xtra tracks only on the 4AD uk version and not the US
> release?
>
> E
>
I do believe you are absolutely right, sorry about that, I guess it's just
because the only copies I've ever seen of Garlands have been the UK
version... and don't get me wrong, I do love it very much, just not as
much as others...
H. Murray
"science is just a bunch of guys in tweed suits cutting up frogs on
foundation grants..." - woody allen
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:47:59 EST
Okay, now didn't the band Bleach break up? I'm talking about the band
that put out an album called _Killing Time_ on Dali in the US, plus
several other single/EPs and mini-albums that were only released in the
UK.
I saw an album by Bleach at Best Buy a couple nights ago - it was called
_Space_, was released by Forefront here in the US, and the very Majesty
Crush-esque sleeve had a picture on the back of five people, none of whom
appeared to be Sally (that was the singer's name, right?), or even
female, for that matter. I'm assuming that this is some newer band that
was so stupid they thought the name Bleach hadn't yet been taken? The
immediate impression I got was that they're another one of these
contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
various shoegazer cliches.
Anyway, just curious...
---Jeremy
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:56:23 -0800
Off the ambient and IDM list:
> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 02:00:54 +0000
> Subject: cool party...
>
> I would like to inform you about a new one @ Irving Plaza, December
> 12th.
>
>
> Here are some info:
>
>
> performances by:
>
> OZ (performing tracks from their debut EP)
>
> Electric Skychurch (Moonshine Records, LA)
>
> Gus Gus (4AD, Iceland)
>
> Moa (Sony Dancepool, Iceland)
>
>
> DJ sets by
>
>
> Darren Emerson (Underworld, UK)
>
> db (Sm:)le Communications, NY)
>
> Marc Anthony (Fluid, NY)
>
> Marcus (Fluid, NY)
>
> Maggi Lego (OZ, Iceland)
>
> Holmar (OZ, NY)
>
>
>
> 9:00pm - 4:00am
>
> December 12 @ Irving Plaza
>
> 17 Irving Place at 15th Street
>
> New York
>
>
> The sponsor for the party is OZ Interactive - http://www.oz-inc.com.
>
>
> Check it out -- be there.. it's FREE! ... But, for Tickets visit
OZ
> (booth #2817) during InternetWorld
http://events.iworld.com/fall96/iw/
> the Jacob Javits Center in New York Dec. 11-13, or just call 212 613
0958.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:50:05 -0500
> oh, and do I recommend _Me, Me, Me_? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Anyone with
> any susceptibility to pop infection should stay away from this
> thing--it's a fucking beast! ;)
as for your pre Air Miami query, Unrest has had a lot of material out there.
The aforementioned _Tink of S.E._, _Kustom..._, and _malcom x park_ as I
understand way out of print...but there was rumour that Mark was going to
re-issue. There is the _F*ck pussy galore (and all her friends)_ re-issue on
Matador/Teen beat which is nice in the kollectors standpoint in that it
culminates all those early rare Unrest singles, *but* overall musical
content? Let's just say that it's not a repeat player in my cd changer.
That Unrest distinction lies with the impeccable _Imperial ffrr_ lp which
IMHO was Mark's pinnacle of creative output. Catchy, infectious, and
overflowing with pop potential sensibility this *was* to be the beginning of
things to come. However, I was a bit let down with the subsequent _Isobel
Bishop_ e.p. as well as the _Perfect Teeth_ lp. Both are fine, with some
great tracks spotted respectively (of note the sublime "make out club" and
"cath carroll" on _Perfect_) but didn't have the continuity of _Imperial_.
There is more Unrest & Mark Robinson material out there (like another Unrest
comp. entitled _B.P.M._ and I believe a Robinson *ahem* solo album) but I
don't have them and my projected comments would ultimately be in vain. So,
if someone could fill in the cracks here?
> Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.
oh.
hmm.
curious, which one did you listen to?
_Clear Skin_ is a bit monotonous initially, but unveils interesting perks
upon repeat listens. _Euphoria_ is IMO a wonderful output, but I'll save
further comment until later.
jason
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:43:18 -0800
I picked up the soundtrack for the new Tom Cruise movie "Jerry Maquire"
today. The film is out this Friday in North America, I believe. It's
directed by Cameron Crowe, he of "Singles" fame. What struck me as
interesting is that 4AD's very own His Name Is Alive are proudly
featured on the soundtrack! Although dedicated fans of HNIA will
already be familiar with the song, the soundtrack is important as it
will expose the band to an entirely new audience. The song is called
"Sitting Still Moving Still Staring Outlooking", which is from the "Home
Is In Your Head" album. The liner notes mention (p) 1991 4AD Ryko. Odd
that it would mention Ryko in this Canadian version as Ryko has nothing
to do with HNIA here. So, here's hoping the movie does OK and lots of
people buy the soundtrack which'll hopefully entice them to buy more
from HNIA. The movie stars Cruise, Cuba Gooding Jr, Renee Zellweger,
Bonnie Hunt, and John Travolta's wife Kelly Preston. Zellweger was also
in "Dazed And Confused" and "Love And A .45" which features Kim Deal in
the soundtrack. Wasn't Deal in a band that did very well on 4AD??!!??
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:46:22 -0800
when I saw the cocteau twins on their tour this past summer, a band
called spain opened for em...they where kinda cool and I wouldnt mind
checking em out, but i cant seem to find anything by them anywhere...it
could be because i live in a dinky little town with pathetic record stores,
but anyone out there know of/own any of their stuff?
Matt
btw-i just picked up slowdive's "souvlaki" based on what ive heard about em
from this mailing list and I must say I love it....
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:01:01 -0800
>What would be the copyrighting situation for me to use our real audio
>server here at Webmedia to broadcast the extra tracks? I could stick 'em
>on my homepage.
>Would it be the same as in Radio?
>Presumably permission would be needed from 4AD.
I think it'd be more serious than radio airplay since people could
download it at any time and leave copies on their disks. It'd be more
like licensing it for a compilation.
Anyway, I'd vote for MPEG audio instead of/in addition to RealAudio. The
sound quality is infinitely better. (Mac users -- Apple just released a
beta of MPEG support for QuickTime and a new QT plugin for Netscape that
supports it. This thingy can play MPEG audio and can play simultaneously
while downloading, so if you have a fast connection you hardly have to
wait at all to start hearing the music. It makes IUMA much more usable,
except that 99% of the music at IUMA is still crap. You can download the
sw from quicktime.apple.com ...)
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:17:08 -0800
with all this talk of garlands and how the UK version is difficult
to find, I thought I'd let you all know that a used record store where I
live has it for 8 bucks (which is udderly amazing considering where I
live)....if anyone absolutely has to have it, let me know...
"garlands evergreen, forget-me-not wreaths..."
Matt