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Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:16:08 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:06:25 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Gus Gus (& others) in NYC THurs!
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:59:08 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@cs.columbia.edu)
Subject: *felt*/'primitive painters'
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:29:34 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is a house painter.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 03:48:02 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Lowlife
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:10 -0800
From: "Brendan A. McCarthy" (ectomort@SLIP.NET)
Subject: Bowery Beat/ Labradford
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:15 -0800
From: "Brendan A. McCarthy" (ectomort@SLIP.NET)
Subject: garlands blah blah
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:06:43 +0000
From: kevin hankey (kevin@WEBMEDIA.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA and red house painters
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:12:46 -0500
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:06:53 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Primitive Painters
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:05:24 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:05:33 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: pure-impure is down...
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:49:34 -0500
From: Christian Perring (cperring@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:00:00 MDT
From: Boo-Scary (BRANCARY@LCS.ISU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lowlife
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:49:26 EST
From: Burt Reynolds (BWILLIA@VALHALLA.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lush
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:22:08 -0800
From: Heather Murray (s0071593@GBC.GBROWNC.ON.CA)
Subject: Bleach?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:47:59 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: FREE GUS GUS IN NY TOMORROW
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:56:23 -0800
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: Air Miami / Unrest / Mark's exploitation
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:50:05 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: His Name Is Jerry Maquire
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:43:18 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: spain
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:46:22 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: Re: garlands blah blah
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:01:01 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: UK garlands for 8 bucks
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:17:08 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bleach?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:24:43 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: spain
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:07:44 +0000
From: Richard Anderson (R.Anderson@RECORDS.USYD.EDU.AU)

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:16:08 -0500
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu


In a message dated 96-12-10 22:19:50 EST, you write:

<< I can't quite think of what it reminds me of... I have their LP
 "Gush", and the singer reminds me somewhat of Lawrence from Felt.  The music
 is something else entirely, but NOT Cocteau-like--not even in the Garlands
>>
It reminds me of a dark New Order.  Sort of first album or Ceremony like.  I
always imagine it as if Joy DIvision was still together, but with Bernard
singing and Ian Curtis on guitar.  Just my impression.

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:06:25 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu


> I'm wracking my brain but I can't seem to remember the name of the
>  band that Will Heggy joined after quiting CT.  Anyone know?  I had
>  the CD about ten years ago and someone stole it :-(

lowlife was will heggy's next venture.  If someone stole your lowlife cd ten
years ago (and chances are that it's way out of print) and you live in
Alaska, Tennessee, Ohio, or Maine - they can be placed in a correctional
facility for up to 10 years (coincidentally).  No kidding.
...*and* it's not just lowlife bagging that gets people in trouble.  no, no.
It's _any_ cd, 12", 7", or lp that has been off the presses for more than 7
years. Look it up in the aforementioned state's law books sect. # 14632.21
and # 14632.22.





















o.k. maybe it's not an "official" law but dammit it should be.

jason


srilank@aol.com


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:59:08 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@cs.columbia.edu)
Subject: Gus Gus (& others) in NYC THurs!


Most of the DJs listed are good (if you're into techno and house)
and Electronic Skychurch is a GREAT live
tribal/ambient/electronica band with great vocals (ala dead can
dance, cocteau twins, etc)

hope to see some of you there!

.\.\ichael -- sentinel

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 02:00:54 +0000
> Subject: cool party...
>
> I would like to inform you about a new one @ Irving Plaza, December
> 12th.
>
>
> Here are some info:
>
>
> performances by:
>
>   OZ (performing tracks from their debut EP)
>
>   Electric Skychurch (Moonshine Records, LA)
>
>   Gus Gus (4AD, Iceland)
>
>   Moa (Sony Dancepool, Iceland)
>
>
> DJ sets by
>
>
>   Darren Emerson (Underworld, UK)
>
>   db (Sm:)le Communications, NY)
>
>   Marc Anthony (Fluid, NY)
>
>   Marcus (Fluid, NY)
>
>   Maggi Lego (OZ, Iceland)
>
>   Holmar (OZ, NY)
>
>
>
> 9:00pm - 4:00am
>
> December 12 @ Irving Plaza
>
> 17 Irving Place at 15th Street
>
> New York
>
>
> The sponsor for the party is OZ Interactive - http://www.oz-inc.com.
>
>
>   Check it out -- be there.. it's FREE!  ... But, for Tickets visit OZ
> (booth #2817) during InternetWorld
> the Jacob Javits Center in New York Dec. 11-13, or just call 212 613 0958.


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:29:34 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: *felt*/'primitive painters'


greetings everyone...
ummm...well, i don't want it to seem as tho' i'm trying to capitalise on
this whole sudden interest in felt/their song 'primitive painters', but...
i have for sale an almost-brand-new cd copy of felt's 'absolute classic
masterpieces' (on futurist), which features the aforementioned title, so if
anyone is interested, please e-mail me...  
appreciatively,  ~susan (who listened to 'heaven or las vegas' today for
literally the first time in years, and wondered why the heck it took her so
long...)


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 03:48:02 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is a house painter.


you forgot about the rhp doing "stranglehold.".... classic... only in
detroit...

**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:10 -0800
From: "Brendan A. McCarthy" (ectomort@SLIP.NET)
Subject: Lowlife


lowlife ware the band will heggie joined after leaving the cocteau twins.
at that time, the band was will heggie (bass), craig lorentson (vocals),
grant mcdowell,
and stuart everest
i have their compilation "from a scream to a whisper" which was released
on nightshift
records in 1990 (lolif7cd)  most of their catalog was reissued on cd by
nightshift at that time.

brendan

ectomort@slip.net


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:15 -0800
From: "Brendan A. McCarthy" (ectomort@SLIP.NET)
Subject: Bowery Beat/ Labradford


i sent this once, but i haven't seen it appear in the digest....

here are some attempts at descibing some of the excellent kranky music
i've
recently acquired...

\\--------//
bowery electric - beat
(kranky records, krank014, CD/DLP)

simple, catchy basslines anchor the minimalistic guitar drones and
accents.  a wonderfully
moody & sedate album.  it lulls.  while it's obvious that they revere
Slowdive, (less so
here than on their debut,) BE are clearly defining their own character.
this album seems
richer and more varied than their first.

the album's title track, "beat," opens with a simple hypnotic combination
of bass, a single
keyboard chord, drum machine and wonderul scratchy surface-noise.  with
margaret's
vocals "words are just words/words are only noise." it approximates
portishead stripped
to the bones.
"empty words" "black light" and "coming down" are all solidly good
slowdive-esque tracks.
the first would have been at home on BE's debut. the latter two feature
lawrence's
vocals on top of margaret's (very neil+rachael-like.)
on both "without stopping" and "fear of flying" the percussion reminds me
of
evanescence-era scorn. beyond that the tone is brooding or hopeful and
dreamy with
some nice subdued whirring noises (likes banks of washing machines in a
laundromat.)
"under the sun" is stark and spooky with reverbed bass and a subdued
noisy background
like (i hear the eraserhead soundtrack.)
"inside out" is a strange courtship - a single guitar chord answering an
inviting bassline
while lazy drums with constant cymbalic shimmer maintain the pace.
there's a warm
relaxing feel here.
"postscript" is a minimal single-chord subtly phasing for 16 minutes.
relaxing, but not
powerful enough to be hypnotic.

//--------\\

\\--------//
labradford - s/t
(kranky krank013) CD/LP

it seems that labradford are still painting brilliantly lonely sonic
landscapes. after creating
 exploring the tundra with last year's "a stable reference," they've on
to explore the
deserts of the american southwest.
this album isn't as intense and overwhelmingly gorgeous as ASR (which may
well be one
of my favourite albums ever.)  but after a few listens, it is holding up
quite well.

the album opens with "phantom channel crossing" - an subtle instrumental
appetizer
with intermittent clanking chains.
the guitar melody/reverb and violin on "midrange" set the album's vaguely
western
motif.  
mark's vocals are nearly obscured by the keyboard melody and mysterious
beacon-like
beeps.  this song has a wandering, lost feel.
"pico" - this song sounds like it could have escaped from labradford's
incredible "a stable
reference" album.  haunting and beautifully desolate.  the eerie
keyboards call out of
the fog created by braided bass and guitar.  (the keyboards remind me a
little of the
haunting theme from "In Search Of" which i loved as a child. Leonard
Nimoy hosted
this paranormal-wierdness series in the late 70's.)
"lake speed" - initially reminds me of lost desperation of "at the heart
of it all"
("scatology"-era Coil) and then labradford take over again.  this track
doesn't work
for me as well as "pico," but the subtle crackling on the vocals and the
chilly layered
echoey radio-like tones and feedback are a pleasant counterpoint to the
warm bass.
at nearly 8 minutes, "battered" is my favourite track on the album.
beginning with
loneliness (little noises and beeps weave in and out of this track
recalling the moods
on slowdive's moving "pygmalion")

//--------\\

jens - you won't be disappointed with the new bowery electric, i think.

joroses - as far as recommendations for labradford... start with "a
stable reference"
(1995.) it's a complex ambient excursion into loneliness.  "prazision"
(1993) is good
overall, tho a tad wobbly and self-conscious at times; and hints at what
is to come.
"labradford" (1996) builds upon the elements in ASR, with the western
guitar-flair
and warm bass softening the bleak edginess.

i'll review the new jessamine and fuxa soon.


brendan

ectomort@slip.net

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:06:43 +0000
From: kevin hankey (kevin@WEBMEDIA.COM)
Subject: garlands blah blah


>>also, aren't the xtra tracks only on the 4AD uk version and not the US
>>release?
>
>Yup. None of the US Capitol releases of any of the albums have any extra
>tracks. In the case of Garlands it is definitely worth the extra $$$ to
>buy the UK 4AD CD.
>

What would be the copyrighting situation for me to use our real audio
server here at Webmedia to broadcast the extra tracks? I could stick 'em
on my homepage.

Would it be the same as in Radio?

Presumably permission would be needed from 4AD.

I'm up for it anyway if it's legal. Beats scurrying around in record shops
buying things.

Regards.

Hankey.

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/


<--insert profundity round about here-->


Merry Christmas people!
Shockwave Xmas card at http://www.choke.net

Kevin Hankey.

Graphic design @ Webmedia


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:12:46 -0500
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA and red house painters


On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Steven Holmes wrote:

> Subject: Re: HNIA and red house painters
>
> while this is alitlle bit off the current thread, whiel in my local cool
> indie store here in elansing mich, i stumbled across a tape that has both
> HNIA and red house painters, all it says is that, plus 93 and then 4AD
> logo.  it has three songs from a self titled red house painters albumn,
> and four from his name is alive, it was only 450, so i bought it, anyone
> have any idea what it is, anyone..
>

        there was a 1/4 page advert in the detroit Metro Times
        a few years back which was plugging the then-new-release
        "mouth by mouth." the ad included a coupon to send in
        to 4ad for a free sampler tape.  this is the tape in
        question.  and i suppose that 4ad figured that while
        giving away HNIA, they might as well expose the listener
        to RHP.  This was actually the 1st time i'd ever heard
        RHP...  guess it worked.

        p.s. i think that the version of "the dirt eaters" on
        this tape is a demo version, unavailable elsewhere. it
        isnt listed as such, but it sounds diffo than on the
        official releases....










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   so let me down now gently                                a
   very, very gently                                        n   K
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                                                            l   n
   sweet anaesthesia
   sweet anaesthesia                             owilde@umich.edu
   sweet anaesthesia                             Document Defnording
       -david j-                                 Wondermonkey Cabal
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:06:53 -0500
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Lowlife


At 12:16 AM 12/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-12-10 22:19:50 EST, you write:
>
><< I can't quite think of what it reminds me of... I have their LP
> "Gush", and the singer reminds me somewhat of Lawrence from Felt.  The music
> is something else entirely, but NOT Cocteau-like--not even in the Garlands
>>>
>It reminds me of a dark New Order.  Sort of first album or Ceremony like.  I
>always imagine it as if Joy DIvision was still together, but with Bernard
>singing and Ian Curtis on guitar.  Just my impression.
>


Very good description!  Late Joy Division/early New Order.  And yeah his
voice is more like Bernard Sumner's.

Mike
iceblink@tiac.net


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:05:24 -0500
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Primitive Painters


   You can also find this song on a "various artists" CD called
"Ambitious?" ("a compilation of some of England's best alternative
rock"...or something like that)

  I picked it up used and have seen it at least three times since.


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:05:33 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lu


I'd have to say Garlands is also my personal fav., but Treasure is a very
close second.


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:49:34 -0500
From: Christian Perring (cperring@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Re: pure-impure is down...


I can't say I noticed the difference from the server just not sending me
most of the digests to it being officially down!
christian


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:00:00 MDT
From: Boo-Scary (BRANCARY@LCS.ISU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lowlife


Okay, Lowlife!  That was it!

To anyone's knowledge, are their albums still in print or available
at a decent price anywhere?
'I see the end-
I see the end-
The door was open-
So I came inside-' Rozz Williams

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:49:26 EST
From: Burt Reynolds (BWILLIA@VALHALLA.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lowlife


    I'm glad someone brought them up...they are a favorite of mine, so
naturally, I'd reccommend that anyone interested check out the
Lowlife home page at  http://www.dhp.com/~ash  (I think). Kevin Berk
(where are you, Kevin?) runs the US outpost of Anoise Annoys and can
answer all your questions and even sell you a few things. Be warned,
the Lowlife backcatalogue was deleted, stolen or lost years and years
ago, but who knows! I think he's still got copies of "Gush," so buy
'em while you can. A fabulous album which, for some strange reason,
I'd place in the same category as Moose's "Live A Little Love A Lot."
    Also, despite the fact that Nightshift (Lowlife's label in
Scotland, run by Brian Guthrie, brother of Robin, as far as I can
remember) *says* that they released the first several albums on CD,
they didn't. That is to say, they planned to, and printed the
specifics into the liner notes of subsequent albums, but it never
actually happened.
    Please feel free to correct any of the above facts...there's
gotta be someone out there who knows this stuff better than I.
    brian
    bwillia@valhalla.csf.edu

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:22:08 -0800
From: Heather Murray (s0071593@GBC.GBROWNC.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: Garlands, other CT, Ride, Miranda Sex Garden, Belly, Lush


On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Elizabeth A Grove wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, heather murray wrote:
>
> > You don't know what Garlands sounds like? Well, It's still wonderful CT
> > stuff, but it's my least favourite of their endeavours, a bit rough around
> > the edges - you can tell, however, that there's something definitely worth
> > having lurking in there - and if you get it on cd now, chances are you'll
> > find it with lots of extra tracks, which is always fun...
> >
> > H.Murray
> >
> > "I love that set of things to say..."
> >
> Garlands is one of my favorite CT. I wish they did a little more of this
> stuff. Instead, they came out w/Head over Heals, boring as hell. However,
> this did lead to much better things.
> also, aren't the xtra tracks only on the 4AD uk version and not the US
> release?
>
> E
>
I do believe you are absolutely right, sorry about that, I guess it's just
because the only copies I've ever seen of Garlands have been the UK
version... and don't get me wrong, I do love it very much, just not as
much as others...

H. Murray

"science is just a bunch of guys in tweed suits cutting up frogs on
foundation grants..." - woody allen


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:47:59 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Bleach?


Okay, now didn't the band Bleach break up?  I'm talking about the band
that put out an album called _Killing Time_ on Dali in the US, plus
several other single/EPs and mini-albums that were only released in the
UK.

I saw an album by Bleach at Best Buy a couple nights ago - it was called
_Space_, was released by Forefront here in the US, and the very Majesty
Crush-esque sleeve had a picture on the back of five people, none of whom
appeared to be Sally (that was the singer's name, right?), or even
female, for that matter.  I'm assuming that this is some newer band that
was so stupid they thought the name Bleach hadn't yet been taken?  The
immediate impression I got was that they're another one of these
contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
various shoegazer cliches.

Anyway, just curious...

---Jeremy 

"Bees are on the what now?"


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:56:23 -0800
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: FREE GUS GUS IN NY TOMORROW


     Off the ambient and IDM list:

     > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 02:00:54 +0000
     > Subject: cool party...
     >
     > I would like to inform you about a new one @ Irving Plaza, December
     > 12th.
     >
     >
     > Here are some info:
     >
     >
     > performances by:
     >
     >   OZ (performing tracks from their debut EP)
     >
     >   Electric Skychurch (Moonshine Records, LA)
     >
     >   Gus Gus (4AD, Iceland)
     >
     >   Moa (Sony Dancepool, Iceland)
     >
     >
     > DJ sets by
     >
     >
     >   Darren Emerson (Underworld, UK)
     >
     >   db (Sm:)le Communications, NY)
     >
     >   Marc Anthony (Fluid, NY)
     >
     >   Marcus (Fluid, NY)
     >
     >   Maggi Lego (OZ, Iceland)
     >
     >   Holmar (OZ, NY)
     >
     >
     >
     > 9:00pm - 4:00am
     >
     > December 12 @ Irving Plaza
     >
     > 17 Irving Place at 15th Street
     >
     > New York
     >
     >
     > The sponsor for the party is OZ Interactive - http://www.oz-inc.com.
     >
     >
     >   Check it out -- be there.. it's FREE!  ... But, for Tickets visit
     OZ
     > (booth #2817) during InternetWorld
     http://events.iworld.com/fall96/iw/
     > the Jacob Javits Center in New York Dec. 11-13, or just call 212 613
     0958.

     ------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:50:05 -0500
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Air Miami / Unrest / Mark's exploitation


> oh, and do I recommend _Me, Me, Me_?  ABSOLUTELY NOT!  Anyone with
>  any susceptibility to pop infection should stay away from this
>  thing--it's a fucking beast! ;)

as for your pre Air Miami query, Unrest has had a lot of material out there.
 The aforementioned _Tink of S.E._, _Kustom..._, and _malcom x park_ as I
understand way out of print...but there was rumour that Mark was going to
re-issue.  There is the _F*ck pussy galore (and all her friends)_ re-issue on
Matador/Teen beat which is nice in the kollectors standpoint in that it
culminates all those early rare Unrest singles, *but* overall musical
content?  Let's just say that it's not a repeat player in my cd changer.
 That Unrest distinction lies with the impeccable _Imperial ffrr_ lp which
IMHO was Mark's pinnacle of creative output.  Catchy, infectious, and
overflowing with pop potential sensibility this *was* to be the beginning of
things to come.  However, I was a bit let down with the subsequent _Isobel
Bishop_ e.p. as well as the _Perfect Teeth_ lp.  Both are fine, with some
great tracks spotted respectively (of note the sublime "make out club" and
"cath carroll" on _Perfect_) but didn't have the continuity of _Imperial_.
There is more Unrest &  Mark Robinson material out there (like another Unrest
comp. entitled _B.P.M._ and I believe a Robinson *ahem* solo album) but I
don't have them and my projected comments would ultimately be in vain.  So,
if someone could fill in the cracks here?

>  Oh, and I wasn't impressed with Insides at all.

oh.
hmm.
curious, which one did you listen to?
_Clear Skin_ is a bit monotonous initially, but unveils interesting perks
upon repeat listens.  _Euphoria_ is IMO a wonderful output, but I'll save
further comment until later.

jason


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:43:18 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: His Name Is Jerry Maquire


I picked up the soundtrack for the new Tom Cruise movie "Jerry Maquire"
today.  The film is out this Friday in North America, I believe.  It's
directed by Cameron Crowe, he of "Singles" fame.  What struck me as
interesting is that 4AD's very own His Name Is Alive are proudly
featured on the soundtrack!  Although dedicated fans of HNIA will
already be familiar with the song, the soundtrack is important as it
will expose the band to an entirely new audience.  The song is called
"Sitting Still Moving Still Staring Outlooking", which is from the "Home
Is In Your Head" album.  The liner notes mention (p) 1991 4AD Ryko.  Odd
that it would mention Ryko in this Canadian version as Ryko has nothing
to do with HNIA here.  So, here's hoping the movie does OK and lots of
people buy the soundtrack which'll hopefully entice them to buy more
from HNIA.  The movie stars Cruise, Cuba Gooding Jr, Renee Zellweger,
Bonnie Hunt, and John Travolta's wife Kelly Preston.  Zellweger was also
in "Dazed And Confused" and "Love And A .45" which features Kim Deal in
the soundtrack.  Wasn't Deal in a band that did very well on 4AD??!!??

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:46:22 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: spain


        when I saw the cocteau twins on their tour this past summer, a band
called spain opened for em...they where kinda cool and I wouldnt mind
checking em out, but i cant seem to find anything by them anywhere...it
could be because i live in a dinky little town with pathetic record stores,
but anyone out there know of/own any of their stuff?


Matt

btw-i just picked up slowdive's "souvlaki" based on what ive heard about em
from this mailing list and I must say I love it....

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:01:01 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: garlands blah blah


>What would be the copyrighting situation for me to use our real audio
>server here at Webmedia to broadcast the extra tracks? I could stick 'em
>on my homepage.
>Would it be the same as in Radio?
>Presumably permission would be needed from 4AD.

I think it'd be more serious than radio airplay since people could
download it at any time and leave copies on their disks. It'd be more
like licensing it for a compilation.

Anyway, I'd vote for MPEG audio instead of/in addition to RealAudio. The
sound quality is infinitely better. (Mac users -- Apple just released a
beta of MPEG support for QuickTime and a new QT plugin for Netscape that
supports it. This thingy can play MPEG audio and can play simultaneously
while downloading, so if you have a fast connection you hardly have to
wait at all to start hearing the music. It makes IUMA much more usable,
except that 99% of the music at IUMA is still crap. You can download the
sw from quicktime.apple.com ...)

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:17:08 -0800
From: Matt Greer (megreer@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: UK garlands for 8 bucks


        with all this talk of garlands and how the UK version is difficult
to find, I thought I'd let you all know that a used record store where I
live has it for 8 bucks (which is udderly amazing considering where I
live)....if anyone absolutely has to have it, let me know...




"garlands evergreen, forget-me-not wreaths..."

Matt


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:24:43 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleach?


As far as I know, Bleach did break up, although I never heard any
official confirmation. They certainly haven't released anything in at
nearly four years, more's the pity. I recall ranking "Killing Time" as my
top album of 1992, and while I might not do that today (I hadn't heard
"Switched-On Stereolab" at the time) it's still a damn good chunk of
music, kind of somewhere near Joy Division and very early Lush.

>The immediate impression I got was that [the false Bleach are] another one of
these
>contemporary Christian acts that tries to disguise themselves behind
>various shoegazer cliches.

Ick. The thing -- okay, _one_ of the things -- that bugs me about these
Xtian alternabands is that they're mostly blatant ripoffs of other
alternabands. There's the Xtian equivalent of U2, the Xtian equivalent of
Ride, the Xtian equivalent of Pearl Jam, et cetera. Of course, U2
themselves are pretty Xtian, but it's not their sole gimmick. Ditto the
dearly beloved Innocence Mission, who are equally sublime whether or not
you care that some of their songs are about the Virgin Mary...


Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:07:44 +0000
From: Richard Anderson (R.Anderson@RECORDS.USYD.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: spain


>        when I saw the cocteau twins on their tour this past summer, a band
>called spain opened for em...they where kinda cool and I wouldnt mind
>checking em out, but i cant seem to find anything by them anywhere...it
>could be because i live in a dinky little town with pathetic record stores,
>but anyone out there know of/own any of their stuff?
>
>
>Matt

Matt

As far as I know they have one album out called _The Blue Moods of Spain_,
but exactly which label they're on is a complete mystery to me. They played
a jazz club in Sydney earlier this year, and yes, they were mighty
impressive. Can't really see them supporting the Cocteau's though...

richard xxoo

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