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Subject: Re: Important News Please Read
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:20:15 +0100
From: Milosz Zielinski (zielinski@DATACOMM.CH)
Subject: Re: hnia question
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:45:22 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: brothers quay
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:03:55 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:39:57 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: PV
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:27:14 -0500
From: Layne Russell (ALRUSSELL@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU)
Subject: new Cranes?
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:31:57 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: new Cranes? -Reply
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:13:45 -0600
From: Steve Tillinghast (STILLING@COMPUCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: new Cranes?
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:11 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:20:15 +0100
From: Milosz Zielinski (zielinski@DATACOMM.CH)
Subject: Re: Important News Please Read


At 02,58 3.12.96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Milosz Zielinski, zielinski@DATACOMM.CH drops this bombshell:
>>I have
>>nothing against freedom of speech and democracy (although I`m an anarchist).
>>I`m on a anarchism mailing list and I regullary read the alt.drugs.pot
>>newsgroup. But I still think that you can`t allow freedom of speech to
>>people who hate others because of whatever.
>
>Jesus H. Christ on a Pog. Has it come down to this, that the people who
>call themselves "anarchists" today can't even measure up to the level of
>mere Libertarians? Anarchy is, well, anarchy. No one is in charge. If you
>call yourself an anarchist you just can't say things like "you can't
>allow freedom of speech to XXXXXXX", not without making yourself and your
>philosophy a laughing-stock. What is "allow"? Who's to "allow" or not
>"allow" in an anarchy? Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of the Law.
>If, as an anarchist, you want to prevent those who hate from taking over,
>you'll have to find some other way of keeping them down without trying to
>exert power over them. Good luck finding a way; that's the primary reason
>I'm not an anarchist. I prefer my political philosophies self-consistent.
>
>Class assignment: Read all three issues of "Anarchy Comix" (Rip Off
>Press, 1979-83) over and over again. All bow down before Saint Paul
>Mavrides.
>

Since when do we have anarchy in USA or anywhere else in the world? We have
democracy (or at least it should be democracy) and I think in democracy I
can demand to take the freedom of speech away from those who hate other. If
we would have anarchy (which I hope will be like this one day) I wouldn`t
care about racists and nazis because nobody would care about any opinion
(communists, democrats, fascists). I don`t know if this would be anarchy,
but in the system I understand under anarchy nobody can have power over
other people (there is no governement so what kind of power can they have?),
so nobody cares about political opinion. Every political opinion and
especially system is born because they want to govern and to control people,
this is impossible in anarchy bevcause nobody can govern and control. I hope
you understand what I want to say, becuase English isn`t my mother language.

Milosz

Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:45:22 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: hnia question


>    1. What is HNIA's  Albino Alligator ( it's a Kevin Spacey movie, i
> think) ?

Actually, Michael Brook is scoring the movie. It would obviously be
interesting if it had even an ounce of Warren Defever involvement.


t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
{ceci n'est pas une web site}

Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:03:55 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: brothers quay


To counter this opinion (which as all opinions are, subjective), I highly
recommend seeing "Institute Benjamenta"...it is over the top pretentious a
lot of the time, but for visual imagery like you've never seen (eat your
heart out, Disney) it is a must see.  So what that certain sequences are a
bit slow?  What is written below is an extreme exaggeration, especially
coming from someone who hasn't even seen the film!

At 11:05 AM 12/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Benjamenta" a few months ago and was pretty disappointed. It's all
>live-action, no animation, and extremely slowly paced. Remember the
>opening scene of the second-season premiere of "Twin Peaks"? Where the
>ancient waiter guy spends seemingly a half hour tiptoeing toward Agent
>Cooper? I gather that most of "Institut Benjamenta" makes that seem like
>a Daffy Duck cartoon by comparison.
>
>Go and rent "City Of Lost Children" instead, if you haven't seen it
>already. It really begs to be seen in a theater on a wide screen, but
>even on teevee it's still incredible. It does have that rusted,
>broken-down quality of the Bros. Quay animation, and it has some
>excellent (computer) animation...
>
>__________          ___________________          ________________________
>Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
>                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]
>
>  'Time in the shadow of the wing of the thing too big to see, rising.'
>                                            _____________________________
>                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/
>
>

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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:39:57 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction



On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Read Dawkins  wrote:

> (who would pay much money for the early CD of _Souvlaki_ with the special
> copy of _Blue Day_ included)

Just to make this discussion interesting, I just received a record catalog
the other day, which, to my surprise, listed a bunch of Slowdive CDs. They
never appear in any catalogs I get usually, but now they did, so I called
the company up and asked about it, and they said Creation had re-issued
most of the Slowdive catalog very recently.

 My 2 |re
 //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:27:14 -0500
From: Layne Russell (ALRUSSELL@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU) Viva el Galaxie 500!!! i second that!! layne Jorge Humberto " I found a new friend underneath my pillow" They Might be giants

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:31:57 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: new Cranes?


I recently saw a quarter-page ad in a magazine for a new release by the
Cranes...and now I can't find it!  It had a French title, and was just
black writing on a grey background.  I remember that the ad didn't say
much; I assumed it was a full album, but it may have even been an EP or
whatever.  Any info on this?

---Jeremy 

"Homer, is this how you pictured married life?"  "Yeah, pretty
much...except we drove around in a van and solved mysteries..."


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:13:45 -0600
From: Steve Tillinghast (STILLING@COMPUCOM.COM)
Subject: new Cranes? -Reply


I believe it is an album. A friend of mine showed it to me
casually just a few days ago. The digi-pak is wrapping
paper brown and all the track listings on the back were in
fact French. And yes, there were enough songs listed on the
back for it to be considered a bona fide album. Perhaps
others will be able to fill in further details...

Steven



Steven Tillinghast (copyright 1971)
stilling@mailgate.compucom.com


>>> Jeremy L Orr  12/04/96 02:31pm
>>>
I recently saw a quarter-page ad in a magazine for a new
release by the
Cranes...and now I can't find it!  It had a French title, and
was just
black writing on a grey background.  I remember that the
ad didn't say
much; I assumed it was a full album, but it may have even
been an EP or
whatever.  Any info on this?

---Jeremy 

"Homer, is this how you pictured married life?"  "Yeah,
pretty
much...except we drove around in a van and solved
mysteries..."

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:43:11 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: new Cranes?


This is probably  _Le Tragedie Oreste et Electre_ or something like
that.  It's an EP/Soundtrack based on the Sartre play.  Very good, but a
bit disengaging if you're not _really_ a big fan.  It was originally
supposed to be a Europe-only release, but due to overwhelming demand
Dedicated decided to release it stateside.  It's actually been getting a
decent amount of respect/airplay on college radio.

jason eugene

On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Jeremy L Orr wrote:

> I recently saw a quarter-page ad in a magazine for a new release by the
> Cranes...and now I can't find it!  It had a French title, and was just
> black writing on a grey background.  I remember that the ad didn't say
> much; I assumed it was a full album, but it may have even been an EP or
> whatever.  Any info on this?
>
> ---Jeremy 
>
> "Homer, is this how you pictured married life?"  "Yeah, pretty
> much...except we drove around in a van and solved mysteries..."
>


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