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Subject: Slowdive auction again
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:48:53 -0500
From: superbacana (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:03:11 -0600
From: Kwan Lee (lee@EECS.TULANE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:52:46 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Ian Masters -> Shareware?!
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:23:47 -0600
From: "Luis B. Abcede" (ST5SD@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: small 4AD (and others) auction
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:51:38 +0000
From: moran@hal-pc.org
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction again
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:20:26 -0500
From: Brian McKay (vydra@WWNET.COM)
Subject: Half String / Scenic this weekend
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:25:16 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction again
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:03:44 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: sliding and diving
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:13:33 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: polara
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:16:12 -0500
From: Matt Walburn/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@STUDENT.BERKLEE.EDU)
Subject: MAI PEN RAI
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:59:50 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:05:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:54:59 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:42:36 -0500
From: http://www.milhoan.com/music/4AD_FAQ.html
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:59:38 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Coming like a gun...
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:28:16 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: slowdive auction again
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:00:17 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Whatever...
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:20:28 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: VOTE NO
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:17:51 -0800
From: alison lorraine (alison@PIL.NET)
Subject: Re: Important News Please Read
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:49:14 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: lassie foundation
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:45:52 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:48:53 -0500
From: superbacana (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Slowdive auction again


>Hello from Japan. As the subject says, I've got one copy of the Holding Our
>>Breath uk 4track cd ep for auction. I sold one a year ago, and have had more
>>people, believe it or not, write to me about this item than any other item by
>>any other artist. I don't get it.... but you might. Minimum bid $20, auction
>>ends in two weeks.

>>ps - I've also got the "Slowdive" 3track ep, and a nice copy of the
>>Japanese-only Blue Day cd ep... min bids $10 and $30 respectively.

The more I think about this, the more outrageous it seems. Holding Our
Breath for $20? Blue Day for $30? They're not worth it. No EP is.

So, if anyone wants a tape of Blue Day or Holding Our Breath, drop me a line
and I'll make one for you. Don't get ripped off.


Larry


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:03:11 -0600
From: Kwan Lee (lee@EECS.TULANE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996

              digest processor" at Dec 2, 96 00:01:26 am

Hello,

        I was just wondering if there were any way to get off this
mailing list...I am getting mail that I really don't need...  Please
send suggestions...Thanks.


lee@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:52:46 -0500
From: "Blue Bell's Knoll" (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.


In a message dated 96-12-01 23:30:01 EST, you write:

<< I just thought I would pass on to you that the Bros. Quay's
 full length feature Institute Benjamenta will be playing at
 the AGO in Toronto this Friday Dec 7, 7 & 9pm, Saturday Dec 8, 7 & 9pm
 and Sunday Dec 9  2 pm matinee. >>


I just wanted to clarify....I'm assuming you really mean Friday Dec 6th...Sat
the 7th and Sun the 8th right??

~blu

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:23:47 -0600
From: "Luis B. Abcede" (ST5SD@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Ian Masters -> Shareware?!


I recently downloaded a clock program (Mouse Clock) for my Win 3.X (OUCH!
sorry).  I clicked on the "About" button, and there it was underneath the title:

Ian Masters
Spoonfed Maximus

I checked the docs and help file, but there was no mention of his
contribution.  The only credits were to the author and other misc info.

Does anybody know anything about this?

In case anybody is interesed, visit http://www.shareware.com and do a quick
search for mclock.zip

Luis


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:51:38 +0000
From: moran@hal-pc.org
Subject: Re: small 4AD (and others) auction


> Cocteau Twins -- evangeline  cd
is this the uk or us version?

> * Flying Saucer Attack -- Chorus  cd
what does pending sale mean?  I'd give you $6 for this.


> Love Spirals Downwards -- Ardor   cd
> Love Spirals Downwards -- Idylls   cd
I'll give you $5 each.

> Pale Saints -- Comforts of madness (uk)  cd
I'll give you $9 for this

Let me know how the bids go... thanks
moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:20:26 -0500
From: Brian McKay (vydra@WWNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction again


On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, superbacana wrote:

> >Hello from Japan. As the subject says, I've got one copy of the Holding Our
> >>Breath uk 4track cd ep for auction. I sold one a year ago, and have had more
> >>people, believe it or not, write to me about this item than any other item b

> >>any other artist. I don't get it.... but you might. Minimum bid $20, auction
> >>ends in two weeks.
>
> >>ps - I've also got the "Slowdive" 3track ep, and a nice copy of the
> >>Japanese-only Blue Day cd ep... min bids $10 and $30 respectively.
>
> The more I think about this, the more outrageous it seems. Holding Our
> Breath for $20? Blue Day for $30? They're not worth it. No EP is.

I'm not so certain this is unreasonable.  I sold my copy of Blue Day
a couple years ago for $33.  Blue Day was discontinued from the Creation
catalog quite a while ago, and was import only (to the US).  It's a fairly
rare item.  I wish I hadn't sold it, even at that price.

Holding our Breath ep, might be worth $20 .  It's not as hard to get, nor
does it have as much music (only 1 track not on full length CD), but I have
seen others get almost $20 for it...  I still think the Slowdive ep is
the most valuable, because it has the second version of Avalyn, which isn't
even on Blue Day.

My $0.02

-Brian
vydra@wwnet.com

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:25:16 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Half String / Scenic this weekend


Half String and Scenic are playing the following shows
very soon in the Los Angeles area.

Thursday 5 Dec  No Life Records, 7209 Santa Monica Blvd 7pm
    Half String plus Dart

Friday 6 Dec    Spaceland, 1717 N Silverlake Blvd., 9:30pm sharp
    Scenic / Half String / Dart, beginning with the premiere
    showing of "Kansas and My Father" a film by Jay Dunn featuring
    the music of Scenic, described as "a flood of mind-altering
    cinema".

Saturday 7 Dec  Penny Lane Records, 6747A Greenleaf Ave., Whittier 4pm
    Scenic plus Dart

|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:03:44 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: Slowdive auction again


I disagree with those who think people  are getting ripped off for buying
hard-to-find EPs or what-not for prices higher than their original tag.
Items are only as valuable as those who desire them make them.  I was
lucky enough to find a copy of _Holding Our Breath_ in a local used CD
store for $10, but this was serendipitous.

What of those who pay $70 or more for early EPs by My Bloody Valentine?
I sure did (for _The New Record by_ and _Geek_) and am glad.

If people have the money and want to pay, let 'em.

However, to be fair, I don't think minimum bids are a good idea;
likewise, accepting high bids post-auction is absolutely unacceptable.
And increasing your profit by "updating" those who bid is absurd.  Silent
auction, no minimum.

more fun

jason eugene

(who would pay much money for the early CD of _Souvlaki_ with the special
copy of _Blue Day_ included)

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:13:33 -0500
From: jawolfe (jawolfe@INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: sliding and diving


On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:

> Alison Lorraine wrote:, whereas the last really
> good thing Peter Murphy did was "She's In Parties".

I believe that it was Bauhaus that did "She's In Parties" at least that's
what the 12'inch I own lists as the artist of that song, yes Murphy is
the lead singer but then again most bands have lead singers but are still
bands.

Not too mention who cares what anyone  listens to, musical taste is
abitrary,there is no rhyme or reason why I like Deep and Holy Smoke and you don'
,
it's just personal taste.



Jes


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:16:12 -0500
From: Matt Walburn/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@STUDENT.BERKLEE.EDU)
Subject: Re: polara


>about polara, in case any of you are interested, they are fronted by ed
>ackerson, minneapolis noise pop guru.  you probably haven't heard his
>work with colfax abbey (wonderful dreampop ala slowdive) or bloomington
>folk el nino (noise pop with the emphasis on pop), but you should!  he's
>also had his hands in john strohm's antenna and velo deluxe.  polara
>released a full length album a couple years ago and just recently the
>previously discussed 'pantomime' ep.  great stuff all around, especially
>colfax abbey, who absolutely blew me away live and the cd actually holds
>up pretty well vs. live.  perhaps minneapolis listies can fill in some of
>the details??
>
>brian


He also did work with my band, Summer Holiday and another Minneapolis band
called the Hang Ups.  Great guy... great music....



Matt Walburn
Box #2179
Berklee College of Music
150 Massachusetts Avenue
Boston, MA 02115
email--> mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu
phone--> (617) 859-3936
"...wrapped in white sheets like an angel from a bedtime story."

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:59:50 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: MAI PEN RAI


this is probably a crazy question... but, one can only ask...

would anyone on this list be willing to part with this 4ad promo for a good
price??
if you are willing please email me privately...

thanks
shar
sharlito@teleport.com

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:05:32 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.


Benjamenta" a few months ago and was pretty disappointed. It's all
live-action, no animation, and extremely slowly paced. Remember the
opening scene of the second-season premiere of "Twin Peaks"? Where the
ancient waiter guy spends seemingly a half hour tiptoeing toward Agent
Cooper? I gather that most of "Institut Benjamenta" makes that seem like
a Daffy Duck cartoon by comparison.

Go and rent "City Of Lost Children" instead, if you haven't seen it
already. It really begs to be seen in a theater on a wide screen, but
even on teevee it's still incredible. It does have that rusted,
broken-down quality of the Bros. Quay animation, and it has some
excellent (computer) animation...

__________          ___________________          ________________________
Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

  'Time in the shadow of the wing of the thing too big to see, rising.'
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:54:59 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.


> << I just thought I would pass on to you that the Bros. Quay's
>  full length feature Institute Benjamenta will be playing at
>  the AGO in Toronto this Friday Dec 7, 7 & 9pm, Saturday Dec 8, 7 & 9pm
>  and Sunday Dec 9  2 pm matinee. >>
> I just wanted to clarify....I'm assuming you really mean Friday Dec 6th...Sat
> the 7th and Sun the 8th right??
> ~blu

i have a review of the film on my web magazine... under film reviews...
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:42:36 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@CS.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996


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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:59:38 -0500
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay Institute Benjamenta in T.O.


On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:

tell your friend that ADS (attention defency syndrome) is curable...

City of Lost Children was very good, in your defense...

Inst. Benjamenta was excellent...

> FYI: A friend of mine who's a BIG Bros. Quay fan saw "Institut
> Benjamenta" a few months ago and was pretty disappointed. It's all
> live-action, no animation, and extremely slowly paced. Remember the
> opening scene of the second-season premiere of "Twin Peaks"? Where the
> ancient waiter guy spends seemingly a half hour tiptoeing toward Agent
> Cooper? I gather that most of "Institut Benjamenta" makes that seem like
> a Daffy Duck cartoon by comparison.
>
> Go and rent "City Of Lost Children" instead, if you haven't seen it
> already. It really begs to be seen in a theater on a wide screen, but
> even on teevee it's still incredible. It does have that rusted,
> broken-down quality of the Bros. Quay animation, and it has some
> excellent (computer) animation...
>
> __________          ___________________          ________________________
> Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
>                                                  jens@mooseyard.com [play]
>
>   'Time in the shadow of the wing of the thing too big to see, rising.'
>                                             _____________________________
>                                             http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/
>

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**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
**************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:28:16 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Coming like a gun...


...or, two new things from PolyGram with 4AD artists featured:

VARIOUS ARTISTS
And Your Bird Can Sing: A Collection of Beatles Covers
Mercury

"Covers" is a new series of compilations available only in Canada. Each
specially-priced compact disc is comprised of artists with a healthy
respect (if not to say reverence) for the past while remaining current

"And Your Bird Can Sing" collects 11 Lennon / McCartney covers featuring
rare of unreleased material by Hothouse Flowers, Paul Weller, Redd
Kross,
Michelle Shocked and The Christians.

Track Listing:
Hothouse Flowers - "Come Together" / Gene - "Don't Let Me Down" / Redd
Kross - "It Won't Be Long" / The Christians - "Lucy In The Sky With
Diamonds" / PMDawn - "Nrowegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) / The Jam -
"And Your Bird Can Sing" / Men Without Hats - "I Am The Walrus" /
Michelle Shocked - "Lovely Rita" / Monsoon featuring Sheila Chandra -
"Tomorrow Never Knows" / Paul Weller - "Sexy Sadie" / The Breeders -
"Happiness Is A Warm Gun"

CD      314 553 117-2


VARIOUS ARTISTS
Mama Told Me Not To Come: A Collection Of Alternative Covers
Mercury

"Covers" is a new series of compilations available only in Canada. Each
specially-priced compact disc is comprised of artists with a healthy
respect (if not to say reverence) for the past while remaining current

Some of the biggest "Alternative" artists interpret songs from the past
including rare material from The Breeders, James and The Wonder Stuff
with Spirit Of TheWest.

Track Listing:
Bauhaus - "Ziggy Stardust" (David Bowie) / Buffalo Tom - "Heaven" (The
Psychedelic Furs) / The Wolfgang Press - "Mama Told Me Not To Come"
(Three Dog Night & Randy Newman) / James - "Sunday Morning" (The Velvet
Underground) / The Cardigans - "The Boys Are Back In Town" (Thin Lizzy)
/
Frank Black - "Hang On To Your Ego" (The Beach Boys) / Red House
Painters - "I Am A Rock" (Simon & Garfunkel) / Love & Rockets - "Ball Of
Confusion" (The Temptations) / The Wonder Stuff with Spirit Of The West
- "Will The Circle Be Unbroken" (Carter Family) / The Breeders - "So Sad
About Us" (The Who)

CD      314 553 115-2

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:00:17 +0000
From: starlite walker (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: slowdive auction again


'Holding our breath'  definitely IS worth more than 'slowdive' because i
dont think that the track 'golden hair' is on blue day either and this
is one of the best tracks they have done.

I have a white label 12" promo of 'holding our breath' which i might
sell, this must be infinitely more rare than the cd, so its going to
make me rich right?

dont see what all the fuss is about myself, i got all 6 of the eps for
#4 each,  although i guess they are some of the best music i own and if
i had to replace them i'd pay whatever necessary.


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:20:28 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Whatever...


>
> I suppose I am nostalgic for the days when nobody gave you a palate of
> stuff to choose from; you actually had to go and really seek it out.
>

hee-hee... i would say that i have not heard a song on the radio, or
seen a video for 95% of the bands i love.  granted, this is partially
due to the fact that i rarely listen to radio or watch tv because they
both suck.  i'm not even sure why i'm still on this list... i guess to
get some helpful pointers from dez, andrew norman, jens, e, brandon,
mr. dean, gil(careful with those reviews, or you're going to have the
guys from projekt trying to hire you), and a few others i know i'm
leaving out.  why are you so worried about how music is classified?
i could care less if the entire world likes the music i do.  why does
it matter?  i listen to bands solely based on... get this... the music.

alan

Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:17:51 -0800
From: alison lorraine (alison@PIL.NET)
Subject: Re: VOTE NO


nancy Doodle wrote:
>
> Alison,
>          I appreciate your efforts, but they're becoming much too exhaustive
> and quite boring. This limelight your giving to the white power list or
> whatever is much advertisement for them, and I'm sure that's not your point.
> It may not have occured to you, but you could be advertising this list/page
> to someone on 4ad that is like that. Please excuse my eloquence-I'm sort of
> annoyed and I'm trying to prove a point. THIS 4AD LIST IS NOT FOR YOUR
> POLITICS TO BE ADVERTISED ON!!! So, puh-lease, please stop this shit on this
> list. I'm far from being a white power knucklehead (I'm half japanese), but
> you're getting so damn annoying that I'm forgetting your point. I'm sure
> others are you.
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


so, I am to be censored.

okay.

Me & "my" politics will go elsewhere.  I suppose anyone else who got the
Vote No chain letter may as well do the same since opinions are obviously
not worth a damn here.

Oh well and UNSUBSCRIBE.

a l i s o n
l         o
i         s
s         i
o         l
n o s i l a


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:49:14 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Important News Please Read


Milosz Zielinski, zielinski@DATACOMM.CH drops this bombshell:
>I have
>nothing against freedom of speech and democracy (although I`m an anarchist).
>I`m on a anarchism mailing list and I regullary read the alt.drugs.pot
>newsgroup. But I still think that you can`t allow freedom of speech to
>people who hate others because of whatever.

Jesus H. Christ on a Pog. Has it come down to this, that the people who
call themselves "anarchists" today can't even measure up to the level of
mere Libertarians? Anarchy is, well, anarchy. No one is in charge. If you
call yourself an anarchist you just can't say things like "you can't
allow freedom of speech to XXXXXXX", not without making yourself and your
philosophy a laughing-stock. What is "allow"? Who's to "allow" or not
"allow" in an anarchy? Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of the Law.
If, as an anarchist, you want to prevent those who hate from taking over,
you'll have to find some other way of keeping them down without trying to
exert power over them. Good luck finding a way; that's the primary reason
I'm not an anarchist. I prefer my political philosophies self-consistent.

Class assignment: Read all three issues of "Anarchy Comix" (Rip Off
Press, 1979-83) over and over again. All bow down before Saint Paul
Mavrides.


Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:45:52 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: lassie foundation


hi all...

     while i was visiting my parents for thanksgiving i picked up this
cd called "california" by a band called the lassie foundatiion.  think
of my bloody valentine with melodies and vocal harmonies like the
beach boys.  definitely one of the catchiest albums i've heard in
awhile.  the lassie foundation is eric campuzano and wayne everett
from the prayer chain; they've also played with starflyer 59, another
great band.  the album is on a small indie label called velvet blue
music, which puts out some pretty good lo-fi stuff.  they've got a
small website at .  check
this one out!

jason