Subject: Sixteen Days
Subject: Itty-bitty thislisty sale
Subject: Re: Belly and The Wedding Present
Subject: Re: hmmm...another question
Subject: New Throwing Muses CD's
Subject: Re: Sixteen Days
Subject: Re: pretentious bores
Subject: flying saucer music
Subject: Balanecu, Rachels, Kronos, & Anchorage
Subject: Barbara Gogan
Subject: Balanecu+Rachels+Kronos=?
Subject: Re: Barbara Gogan
Subject: Stephen Scott et al.
Subject: sliding and diving
Subject: Re: Balanescu Quartet (Nyman & Satoh)
Subject: Scheer 4
Subject: Re: fondlemyears
Subject: did somebody say bowery electric?
Subject: Re: sliding and diving
Subject: FAO: Manchester UK area people only
Subject: Tanya Donelly & Mojave 3 - live in Manchester
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:55:25 +0100
Jens Alfke
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:29:57 -0600
Pruning my shelves, I found these unloved items seeking a good home:
Dead Can Dance - 1996 Tour Program, with ~8 minute instrumental "Sambatiki"
on
enclosed CD single. Good if you like the worldbeat of "Spiritchaser".
Min bid $8.
Lida Husik/Beaumont Hannant - Evening at the Grange EP - aloof popster
meets
electronica artist for Magnetic Fields-like suburban pop. Min bid $5.
Husikesque - Green Blue Fire - Same cohorts tackle sub-Portis trip-hop.
Min bid $8
Miranda Sex Garden - Madras (Mute UK) - Quite competent trio a cappella
renditions of Elizabethan madrigals on their 1991 debut. Min bid $7
Miranda Sex Garden - Iris EP - Rare vocal restraint over occasionally
shoegazy
instrumental drones. Min bid $5
World of Skin - Ten Songs for Another World - Gira and Jarboe of the Swans
sing
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:52:38 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-20 22:10:49 EST, you write:
<< hat Belly King book thing, (say that ten times fast!)... for $9.99,
brand new! (i think i paid twice that when it came out). too bad the cd
isn't
as fantastic as the packaging, but i enjoyed it nonetheless.
anyways, these are available at Rhino Records in Claremont, CA. or i can
pick 'em up for those who are interested. >>
I saw two in Claremont recently.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:51:36 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-20 22:10:44 EST, you write:
<< It is still available from the 4ad mailorder catalog. At least it was
as of a year ago. I think with shipping it cost about $12. I don't think
it has gone out of print since.
>>
Nope, it was in the original catalog but it is out of print and unavailable.
Half the things in the catalog are now no longer available. Sorry. Also,
When I have seen it, it goes for $30-50.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:24:07 -0800
For my fellow obsessive collectors:
New Throwing Muses releases on Throwing Music/Rykodisc
>From 4AD Newsgroup:
LIVE TO TAPE (promo)
recorded at stable sound, portsmouth RI on 5/20/96.
Shark, Ruthie's Knocking, Night Driving, Serene, Bright Yellow Gun, Bea
Cat.No. VRCD-0354
>From ICE Magazine:
SHARK (CD-5)
Release date: January 14, 1997
( u p d a t e d )
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
{ceci n'est pas une web site}
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:50:46 PST
Jens Alfke
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:47:22 -0800
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Tom Weibrecht wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:54:20 -0800 "Ms. Michelle Draeger"
> >Deal with it.
> >
> why dont u do everyone a favor and unsubscribe?
Aww, I like her.
e
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:52:23 -0800
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Igor V. Boronenkov wrote:
> 3.There was a mention that Dean was writing "flying saucer's music" during
> the hiatus- it'd be really interesting to see if it'll see the
> light'o'the'day.
I think we got a nice hint of it on Cherry, which incidentally is the
best ep of all time. I'd certainly trade in both Cuckoo and Doppelganger
for an album of the delicious noise that whistles in and out, and
dominates most of the title track. Yummy.
e
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:00:24 -0500
when i mentioned the balanescu quartet last week just in passing, i was
quite shocked in the amount of people on the list who are fond of one my
favorite performers, conductors, and composers. this only reaffirms that
the signing of a quality nouveau/avant-garde classical quartet would be in
order for 4AD.
my web page will have a review of Possessed which features the music of
Kraftwerk, David Byrne, and Alexander Balanescu himself. one of my
favorite compact discs of all time is the Angels & Insects soundtrack.
Alexander Balanescu leads his quartet in the production of his own score.
Argo has released my favorite composer's latest release which features the
Balanescu Quartet. Last Days by Gavin Bryars is extraordinary. Gavin gives
minimalism a richness and Alexander's quartet intensifies that phenomenal
sound. However, my most favorite Balanescu Quartet recording is for Gavin
Bryar's ECM New Series release After the Requiem.
The Rachels are quite different than the Balanescu Quartet. the Balanescu
Quartet have a more precise way of getting to their goal while the Rachels
give classical music that DIY quality. through the unclear and lo-fi
fuzziness we get a rich sound from the Rachels while the Balanescu Quartet
relies more on technique and movement. i absolutely adore the Rachels,
they add a quality to classical recording that has been needed for some
time. Two reviews on my web page will be added friday
The Kronos Quartet are extremely amazing. they are like all quartets
rolled into one. they never suprise me anymore. they have recorded artist
from Ives to Piazzola to Marta to Beat Poet ramblers... do want to hear
the most scary and most emotionally draining song that i have ever heard.
buy the Kronos Quartet's Black Angel. listen to the Istvan Marta piece. it
will drain your sole if it doesn't cause it to run away. a full review of
that will be posted friay for that release as well..
What i have heard from Anchorage is very rich almost symphonic music.
almost angelic in lushness. i was very impressed.
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:30:26 -0500
On Hector Zazou's "Sahara Blue", there are two songs with Barbara on
vocals. Who is she?
Tim
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:31:11 -0000
If you like any/all of the above, and bearing in mind this is the 4AD
list, you must find anything by Steve Martland, who is the epitome of
rock/classical hybrid.
Should 4AD have such 'classical' acts on their roster...?...Martland's
'Factory Masters' was originally recorded for one of the original Inde
labels (Factory in Manchester: don't be put off by New Order).
It's now available on Catalyst.
David
>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:49:11 -0800
TIM CONLON wrote:
>
> On Hector Zazou's "Sahara Blue", there are two songs with Barbara on
> vocals. Who is she?
>
> Tim
>
> TIM CONLON
> [email protected]
Barbara Gogan is the former lead singer with the Passions, one of my
favorite 80s bands. In a 1990/1? article in Alternative Press, Jack
Rabid mentioned that she had a new band in NYC called SUNRISE HAMMERS.
I spoke with Nicholas Hill at whatever station he's at in NYC since they
were friends and he didn't know what happened to SH as a band project.
Then Barbara popped up on Zazou's record and one other, can't
recall...Hill is from Portland and he and I were giant Passions fans.
When he moved to NYC, he ran into Barbara who got stranded in the states
after an aborted tour (she may be American, formerly with a Brit band).
If anyone on 4adlist knows more, I would like to meet Barbara and say hi
to Hickory--pass the word.
dans
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:07:30 -0600
Mrk bemoaned:
> still no one with opinions on stephen scott's "bowed piano" work???
I own the first of Scott's two recordings for New Albion (A superb label,
I've yet to find a release of theirs without profound value), entitled
"Minerva's Web/Tears of Niobe" (1990). In case you missed the review with
soundbites of the new "Vikings of the Sunrise" on NPR a week ago, Scott's
modus operandi is to score piano music for the ten members of the Colorado
College New Music Ensemble, the catch is that most of them are under the
lid of the grand, bowing the strings with rosined floss, or tiny bows made
of floss glued to popsicle sticks. Remarkably, in Scott's hands the result
isn't gimmicky at all, there is a symmetry and grandeur to the pieces, they
build by minimalist sheets or pointillist patterns, with not an effect out
of place. From the soundbites, "Vikings" seems to be a bit more
programmatic, with a vaguely Wagneresque crescendo.
If you enjoy Stephen Scott's bowed piano works, I most emphatically
recommend Ellen Fullman's "Body Music", on Experimental Intermedia (224
Centre St., NY, NY 10013). Fullman, originally a visual artist in Austin,
TX, tensions dozens of steel wires between resonators 80 ft apart, and then
tunes them to Partch's microtonal scale with c-clamps placed at intervals
on the strings. She and her cohorts then perform her compositions by
walking aside and within the instrument, rubbing the strings with rosined
fingers. It's something like a Branca symphony performed by Scott's
ensemble, harmonic clusters scraping heavenward. I never failed to get
info requests when I played this on my radio graveyard shifts a few years
back. If you want a taste, two of Fullman's improvisations appear on a Poi
Dog Pondering album (I don't know which one).
mrk asked:
> where then is the avant/nouveau-classical list?
The FAQ for the Post-classical mailing list is at:
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/music/pc/faq.html
The listserv is at to: [email protected]
However, I think most of the traffic has since moved to the usenet
newsgroup
rec.music.classical.contemporary
D.S. Roy aka [email protected]
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers - Picasso
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:26:44 -0600
i got the new tanya donelly EP SLIDING AND DIVING today at a local music
store for $2.98 (the guy said it was some deal 4ad had...anyone know why
it was so cheap for an import????), and i love it! "Bum" has got to be
the most energetic song tanya's done in a while (although it is a long
ways away from "Reel").....can't wait to hear the new album!....
matt
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:18:50 -0700
>still no one with opinions on stephen scott's "bowed piano" work???
>where then is the avant/nouveau-classical list?
well, i heard that bit on NPR also, and thought it was quite interesting
too. is there anyone out there who made the plunge and bought it!?
peter
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UC Berkeley
Berkeley CA 94720
(510) 643-7230
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:00:49 EST
I got a CD Promo today, catalogue no. Scheer4, containing two new tracks
- First Contact and Sex Kitten. More of the same, really. First Contact is quite
a good song, but Sex kitten is more horrible Echobelly-meets-Skunk Anansie
indie-metal tosh.
- Dez
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:15:12 -0500
<<<<
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:48:46 -0500
how did i let it slip by me? a new bowery electric? i'm in seventh heaven!
thank you mr. alfke for the notice.
btw, is the 16 days single everyone's talking about the song to the siren ep or
the mysterious, ultra rare promo 10 incher that i too passed up a couple of
years ago and am now kicking myself in the arse for?
what give?
dave
"..attack ships on fire off the shoulder of orion.."
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:51:46 -0800
Matthew T De Bellis wrote:
>
> i got the new tanya donelly EP SLIDING AND DIVING today at a local music
> store for $2.98 (the guy said it was some deal 4ad had...anyone know why
> it was so cheap for an import????), and i love it! "Bum" has got to be
> the most energetic song tanya's done in a while (although it is a long
> ways away from "Reel").....can't wait to hear the new album!....
>
> matt
I like Tanya's stuff, too--it makes me sad to see magazines like rolling
stone put her & belly under the "one hit wonders" category--which they
did in their latest damn issue.
I guess I am just pissed off that the reason why these REAL alternative
bands aren't doing so well commercially is that there are too many fake
ones--examples being Fiona Apple (they play her on the "alternative"
stations around here, but she is far from it), Alanis Morrissette (don't
know if I spelled her name right and really don't care--she ain't no
alterna-chick, just an angry harmonica-sucking former dance clone),
Metallica, Bush, Alice in Chains and the like (heavy metal); I could go
on and on. The real deal is bands like the Muses and Belly, the Church,
Peter Murphy, etc.
I don't know whose idea it was to repackage just about anybody as
"alternative" but it sucks hard.
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