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Subject: Sunday night TV
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 22:53:05 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Sunday night TV
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:42:03 -0600
From: Ernesto Nieto Guzman (neitzl@WWW.TEQCORP.COM.MX)
Subject: Re: Sunday night TV
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:06:14 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:18:14 -0500
From: harrison fnord (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Gus Gus == Good Good
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:27:03 +0100
From: Grant Goodes (ggo@CSD.CRI.DK)
Subject: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:30:10 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: belly songbook/verve inquiry
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:09:35 -0500
From: Dave Sargent (fairlee@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET)
Subject: Re: Hope the outgoing extrovert
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:57:10 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:59:53 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Virgin Compilation?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:33:15 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: belly songbook/verve inquiry
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:41:58 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:40:34 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus == Good Good
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:03:49 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Sunday Night TV
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:14:40 -0500
From: schokokeks (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:44:37 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:43:20 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:55:34 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: need recommendations
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:45 -0800
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)

Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 22:53:05 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Sunday night TV


Interesting viewing this Sunday night on television...  MuchMusic was
running a full six or eight odd hours of highlights from last years
Glastonbury Festival where Belly contributed a fine performance and on
MTV's M2 off-shoot channel, an interesting programming scheme of running
alternating Lush and Bush videos for an hour.  It was odd to see "For
Love" then a Bush vid then "Sweetness And Light" then a Bush vid then
"Hypocrite" followed by a Bush vid.  Odd way of programming videos but
then that's what you get from M2.

Also, in the current ish of Interview, Lush is included among "the top
20 women in rock" article and Ray Gun has a nice (though obviously
dated) interview with Lush.  Nice article on Mazzy star, too...

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:42:03 -0600
From: Ernesto Nieto Guzman (neitzl@WWW.TEQCORP.COM.MX)
Subject: Re: Sunday night TV


Yes i saw the M2 hour of lush/bush...and i really enjoyed it..  i mean, here
i am in mexico, where i get all this really REALLY bad music all day,
besides the stuff i brought which i am tired of, and then this hour of power
comes on...  the only one i didnt enjoy was for love....never really cared
for this song... but ladykillers, Sweetness and light, De-luxe, Hypocrite
and one other i think, was good enuff for this fan.  it was intersting
looking for Chris...he seemed to really enjoy hisself on all the vids...such
a shame...:(...anyhow...M2 is a rather good station when it wants to be....I
really enjoy Orbitals, the box...  very imaginitive video, and a good song!
And Chem bros song, which i forget right now.  Just wish they would have a
CT hour or something....But with so many different channels to choose from,
m2 is hardly my choice.  But still worthwhile on them "nutting on the tv but
golf and bowling" sundays.

  Ive spoken too much...



At 10:53 PM 11/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Interesting viewing this Sunday night on television...  MuchMusic was
>running a full six or eight odd hours of highlights from last years
>Glastonbury Festival where Belly contributed a fine performance and on
>MTV's M2 off-shoot channel, an interesting programming scheme of running
>alternating Lush and Bush videos for an hour.  It was odd to see "For
>Love" then a Bush vid then "Sweetness And Light" then a Bush vid then
>"Hypocrite" followed by a Bush vid.  Odd way of programming videos but
>then that's what you get from M2.
>
>Also, in the current ish of Interview, Lush is included among "the top
>20 women in rock" article and Ray Gun has a nice (though obviously
>dated) interview with Lush.  Nice article on Mazzy star, too...
>
>Jeff Keibel
>Scarborough, ON
>CANADA
>redshift@interlog.com
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:06:14 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Sunday night TV


>Nice article on Mazzy star, too...

Mazzy Star... I saw them performing live a few days ago in Amsterdam. Hope
was very pissed off from the beginning because there were a few 'sounds'
coming from her microphone that she didn't produce. She stopped singing for
about three times during the one hour concert. They played the other songs
just like the cd versions. Sometimes it was just if you were watching a cd,
you couldn't see them well because they don't like stage lights I think. At
the end I wondered why they do live concerts in the first place... they
didn't seem to enjoy it very much.

But the latest album is very good.


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, November 11, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:18:14 -0500
From: harrison fnord (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive


On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Matthew T De Bellis wrote:

>
> I was in a record store the other day and saw a 12" w/ no sleeve in the
> HNIA section.  it said it was a new project by Warren...it described the
> reord as dancey and sounding like Aphex Twin.  Anyone have more info on
> this and can someone tell me whether it is worht picking up???
>
>

        what record store, and their phone # please!




****************************************************************************
                 Charlotte sometimes crying for herself
            Charlotte sometimes dreams a wall around herself
                       But it's always with love
                   With so much love it looks like
                           Everything else
                       Of charlotte sometimes
                             So far away
                       Glass sealed and pretty
                         Charlotte sometimes
****************************************************************************


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:27:03 +0100
From: Grant Goodes (ggo@CSD.CRI.DK)
Subject: Gus Gus == Good Good


Well, finally managed to get a copy of this gem in musically
impoverished Copenhagen (Each store seems to import one copy
of the single at a time), and I must say I am not
disappointed.  The only weak point in the music IMHO is the
vocals, which do not really grab me, but then there are so
many other levels to the music that I really don't mind.
It's hard to describe this music without resorting to "it
sounds like Portishead done by Wolfgang Press", but try:
funky, trippy, chewy.

The remixes are even more interesting than the A-side.  They
are chock full of sleepy, chunky percussion substitutes (ie.
not from a drum, and in this respect they resemble Global
Communication), and the whole sounds at times as though the
signal from a distant FM station is fading in and out in a
most pleasing fashion.  Despite the fact that my description
makes it sound like low-fidelity noise, the result is best
appreciated on a really good sound system at high volume,
the better to hear all the nuances.  Recomended for those
who like sounds that sound good.

Where do we get more of this?  I don't do vinyl, so I guess
I'll have to wait a while.  Are there any Icelandic releases
to track down?

grant..


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:30:10 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track


Hey Does anyone who has seen french director Clair Denis' film Nenette
& Boni know what the name of the Tindersticks track is, that's in it?

I have been trying to find out which cd its on, but I didn't catch
the name of it.

Thanks,
Steve

***********************************************************
You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:

Dalmatian Design Communications
Steven Venn, b.f.a. - Graphic Designer
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601

"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
 and start spouting universal truths without qualification!"
                  -Jude from Hal Hartley's "Surviving Desire"

"Would you leave the lights alone please,
stop messing with the f**kin' lights"
                  -Future Sound of London on "ISDN"


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:09:35 -0500
From: Dave Sargent (fairlee@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET)
Subject: belly songbook/verve inquiry


i was at tower the other day and saw a belly guitar tab book for the album star.
it was about $20US. if anyone wants me to pick it up for them i should be in
that vicinity next week, though if it can be found at one tower it should be
easy to find at any of them. i DID pick up the queen deluxe anthology
piano/vocal/guitar book though. brilliant stuff!

in the movie Nadja, there is the beginning of this verve song that's played
twice and i absolutely love it. i can't remember the name of it though; can
anyone tell me what album it's from and if i can expect similar sounds from the
verve? it was very reverb-y/shoegazy.

thanks in advance,
dave
fairlee@access.digex.net


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:57:10 -0800
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Hope the outgoing extrovert


Emiel Efdee wrote:

> Hope was very pissed off from the beginning because there were a few > 'sounds
 coming from her microphone that she didn't produce.

I envy that you saw them live in the first place!  I think Hope is
essentially a real shy person despite what outfits she's wearing in that
Ray Gun article.  I'm hoping they get to play here, even if it is like
watching a CD...

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:59:53 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track

              Nov 11, 96 09:30:10 am

 Steven Venn  wrote on Mon, 11 Nov 1996
 (Subject: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track)
 > Hey Does anyone who has seen french director Clair Denis' film
 > Nenette & Boni know what the name of the Tindersticks track is,
 > that's in it?
 >
 > I have been trying to find out which cd its on, but I didn't catch
 > the name of it.

 Could it possibly be on the new Tindersticks album, "Soundtrack to
 Nenette & Boni"?  (They did the whole soundtrack).

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:33:15 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virgin Compilation?


> I remember awhile back (about 6 or 7 months ago), someone mentioned a
> nifty little two-disc set put out by Virgin with lots of this-listy music
> on it.  I know this isn't much info to go by, but does anyone recall the
> title of it?

Not sure if these are the Virgin Compilations that were mentioned before,
but they do have some really gret music on them... however more in the
vein of ambeint/techno... although their selection of music is REALLY
broad and does not by any means stay within the cliched boundaries of
most ambient techno... There's some stuff thats more this-listie, and
there's a lot of strange combinations of world music and dub, a lot
of really interesting Eno/Fripp/Brook tracks too.

Anyway, there have been four of them:
Ambient 'a brief history of ambient - vol. one'
Ambient 2 'Imaginary Landscapes'
Volume 3 - 'The Music of Changes'
Ambient 4 - 'Isolationism'

IMHO Ambient 2 and Volume 3 are the best in the series. 'Isolationism'
has a lot more minimal music on it - stuff by Aphex Twin, Seefeel,
Labradford, Zoviet France etc...

Virgin was also responsible for the "OCEANS OF SOUND" coumpliation which
is another very interesting VERY diverse concoction of sounds and music.

hope this was helpful

joe

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:41:58 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: belly songbook/verve inquiry


Vervey Says!

        Yes that was Verve in Nadja.

boydb@csmc.edu


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:40:34 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Nenette & Boni Tindersticks Track


track, I found the info and I am passing it on to anyone who's

TINDERSTICKS
TINY TEARS
NENETTE ET BONI  OST 524-300
QUICKSILVER

Steve

***********************************************************
 You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:

Dalmatian Design Communications
Steven Venn, b.f.a. - Graphic Designer
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601

"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
 and start spouting universal truths without qualification!"
                  -Jude from Hal Hartley's "Surviving Desire"

"Would you leave the lights alone please,
stop messing with the f**kin' lights"
                  -Future Sound of London on "ISDN"


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:03:49 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus == Good Good


>Where do we get more of this?  I don't do vinyl, so I guess
>I'll have to wait a while.  Are there any Icelandic releases
>to track down?

>grant..

The self-titled debut album was released in Iceland by Kjol & Andersson late
last year / early this. It has twelve tracks, including the original version of
Polyesterday. Each CD came in a velour wrap printed with the gus gus logo in
black on either peachy-pink, green or white. There may be other colours, but
those are the only three I've seen. According to Rich Holzman, the 4AD release
will be extensively different to the Icelandic one.

Full tracklisting:

Gun / Barry (White Pride) / Polyester Day / Chocolate / Oh / Why? / Believe /
Cold Breath '79 / Rememberance / Is Jesus Your Pal? / Message From Disney /
Purple

As you probably know there are also two 4AD twelve inch promos of Polyesterday
and Chocolate.

- Dez

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:14:40 -0500
From: schokokeks (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Sunday Night TV


Jeff Keibel wrote:

> on
>MTV's M2 off-shoot channel,

You get this on satellite, right?

> an interesting programming scheme of running
>alternating Lush and Bush videos for an hour.  It was odd to see "For
>Love" then a Bush vid then "Sweetness And Light" then a Bush vid then
>"Hypocrite" followed by a Bush vid.  Odd way of programming videos but
>then that's what you get from M2.

They could at least have thrown in some Rush for the sake of variety. No,
wait...that's a terrible idea.

>Also, in the current ish of Interview, Lush is included among "the top
>20 women in rock" article and Ray Gun has a nice (though obviously
>dated) interview with Lush.

Miki also appears as part of a collage on the cover of "Arranging for Rock,
Pop and Jazz" (I think that's the title) by Daryl Runswick. No mention of
Lush (or any other band) inside, however.


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:44:37 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry


> in the movie Nadja, there is the beginning of this verve song that's played
> twice and i absolutely love it. i can't remember the name of it though; can
> anyone tell me what album it's from and if i can expect similar sounds from th

> verve? it was very reverb-y/shoegazy.

The song is "One Way To Go" from the single "All In The Mind" and the
compilation "No Come Down". Too bad there isn't a Nadja soundtrack;
among others, it featured My Bloody Valentine, Portishead, and even the
original version of that alternative radio hit "In The Meantime" by
Space Hog.
--
t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
{ceci n'est pas une web site}

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:43:20 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry


greetings dave.
i have not seen the movie, but if it was indeed an album track, it may have
come from their 'a storm in heaven' album, which is on hut/vernon yard (and
is 'very reverb-y/shoegazy'!).

At 12:09 PM 11/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>in the movie Nadja, there is the beginning of this verve song that's played
>twice and i absolutely love it. i can't remember the name of it though; can
>anyone tell me what album it's from and if i can expect similar sounds from the
>verve? it was very reverb-y/shoegazy.
>
>thanks in advance,
>dave
>fairlee@access.digex.net
>

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:55:34 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: verve inquiry


>
> > in the movie Nadja, there is the beginning of this verve song that's played
> > twice and i absolutely love it. i can't remember the name of it though; can
> > anyone tell me what album it's from and if i can expect similar sounds from 
he
> > verve? it was very reverb-y/shoegazy.
>
> The song is "One Way To Go" from the single "All In The Mind" and the
> compilation "No Come Down". Too bad there isn't a Nadja soundtrack;
> among others, it featured My Bloody Valentine, Portishead, and even the
> original version of that alternative radio hit "In The Meantime" by
> Space Hog.
> --
> t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
> http://home.earthlink.net/~tmp/
> {ceci n'est pas une web site}
>

actually, there is a "nadja" soundtrack.  however, from what i've
read, it's the orchestral score, so it probably doesn't have the mbv,
portishead, verve, etc. tracks.  it's done by simon fisher turner and
features string arrangements, mixed with source recordings and dialogue
from the movie and is supposed to be quite lovely.  it was released on
some label called gyroscope, i believe.

jason


Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:06:45 -0800
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: need recommendations


> Date:    Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:41:36 +0100
> From:    lbo 
> Subject: Re: need recommendations
>
> >The Orb - Orbus Terrarum
>
> is the one with some strange clocks on the cover?  to avoid absolutely,
> imho.  boring, useless, selfpopmpous.

No, it isn't.  Orbus Terrarum has a detail of an old map on the cover and
several good tracks, including one co-produced by Kris Needs (of Secret
Knowledge fame.)  You're thinking of the "Food Ep" thing and I agree that
it is boring and useless.

David.

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David McCallum                                               mccallum@efn.org
                  http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
 Would clocks tick through time if not for the beat of your heart near mine?


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