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Subject: Re: DCD's percussionist - Peter Ulrich
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:31:15 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: stina nordenstam
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:34:31 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:26:03 -0500
From: Misanthropy (jm804093@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: HEIDI BERRY/ANNE CLARKE
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:25:09 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Judgement of Paris
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:05:20 -0600
From: Sanz (bighat@RCI.RIPCO.COM)
Subject: Re: Aeroplane (Tokyo Sex Whale thingie)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:45:06 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:19:13 -0500
From: Lucius Kwok (lucius@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Judgement of Paris
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:59:35 -0500
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu)
Subject: detox, hArk
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:17:43 -0500
From: "MacLeod, Robert B." (MacLeod_Robert_B@FS811.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL)
Subject: Re: DAVID LOVERING
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:04:03 EST
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: list admin
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:44:05 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Paladins rock bottom
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:26:47 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: need recommendations
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:58:40 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: 3 LPs for sale
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:21:35 -0500
From: Joshua Harmon (jnh4@CORNELL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Paladins rock bottom
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:13:58 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:31:15 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: DCD's percussionist - Peter Ulrich


eitan wrote:

"Going through my records the other day, I found a 12" of Peter Ulrich who
played percussions on DCD's "within the realm..."
This 12" is called "Taqaharu's Leaving", and was released on Corner Stone
Records in 1990.
It contains two tracks - the title track and another one called "Evocation".
The music is very much alike DCD, and Ulrich thanks Brendan & Lisa for
inspiration and help.

Does anyone have any idea if this 12" came to a full length album, and is it
available these days ?"



the 12" "taqaharu" was advertised in brochure form on the seats of the 1990
concert tour. i do not believe there was ever intended to be an album, just
the ep.

i have never seen the 12" for sale. you are lucky to have it. i would love a
copy.


todd sanders

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:34:31 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: stina nordenstam


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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:26:03 -0500
From: Misanthropy (jm804093@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing


On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, KRATHYN WHITE wrote:

> Hello one and all. Just a brief cry for help. I can't find a copy of
> bloweyelashwish by llc anywhere in Australia. Would anyone happen to know
> where I could get it through mail order?? Thank you. Bye.

you can order it direct from Projekt Records.

check out their web page at www.projekt.com for mail order info...

julie

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:25:09 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: HEIDI BERRY/ANNE CLARKE


anne clarke has a truckload of albums...her live album is especially
good...as to new stuff...i just ordered a single with remixes by bill
laswell...yahoo
tom w
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:45:56 -0500 John Roseborough 
>
>
>>Does anyone know of a "singer" called Anne Clarke? She has these
>really
>>awesome poems that she kind of mumbles over some really great music.
>Does=
>=20
>> anyone like her?
>
>Yes, I adore her. I just have the album "an ordinary life". "sleeper
>in=
> metropolis" is the best track on this one. the rest of this album can
>best=
> be described as minimalist electronica + melodramatic female spoken
>voice.=
> her other stuff was (about 5 yrs ago) hard to find since it was
>import=
> only, and very expensive. has she released anything lately?
>
>John
>
>>o


Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:05:20 -0600
From: Sanz (bighat@RCI.RIPCO.COM)
Subject: Judgement of Paris

              digest processor" at Nov 7, 96 00:00:42 am

Hi cz,

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but Judgement of Paris has broken
up. Christian, the lead singer, and Joel Hanson, hammer dulcimer & various
percussion, are now in a band called Passage. which is quite groovy but much
more organic than J of P. They never really decided to break up, but everyone
started working on other projects or developing other obligations. I think
that, there is very little possibility of them getting back together, but who
knows they all still live in Minneapolis & are good friends so maybe they'll
wind up doing something. Bradley Hanson, keyboards & sequencing, ocassionally
plays & records with Passage as does J of P's original drummer Joel Smith.
There is a wonderful recording of their final rehearsal which is vastly better
than most of the music being released today ( IMHO but hey I'm a friend so I'm
not at all objective.)

I forwarded your original post to Bradley (he & Joel live together) so maybe
he'll reply himself. If he does ask him to send you the final rehearsal tape,
you won't be disappointed. :)

Take care,
Sanz

--
****************
Sanz Lashley


Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:45:06 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Aeroplane (Tokyo Sex Whale thingie)


---from Jeff Keibel:

> I managed to aquire a copy of the 12" single from Aeroplane today.
It's one of the
> first releases from the Detox label run by Colin and Lewis at 4AD's
London office...

[later, when quoting the credits...]

> written by h. berry/ross/fitzpatrick

[and yet later, when reviewing it...]

> Track one, the Aerodrome Mix, is a longer extended take of this
soothingly enticing
> song while the interestingly named Tokyosexwhale Mix is a weirded-out
trippy
> adventure featuring sampled voice work from the gifted and most
definitely
> 4AD-sounding female vocalist.

Okay, so is maybe the 4AD-sounding female vocalist Heidi Berry, the "h.
berry" listed above?  And I suppose this is just wishful thinking on my
part, but might the "fitzgerald" in question be Patrick Fitzgerald of
Kitchens of Distinction?  (Didn't they break up?)

Just wondering...I've been out of the loop for a while, in terms of
information.

---Jeremy 

...still cringing from reading the term "PJ Harvey-ish" applied to "You
Oughta Know"...

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:19:13 -0500
From: Lucius Kwok (lucius@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Heidi Berry


I must first say that I own the first two Heidi Berry CDs from 4AD, and
had a chance to listen to part of 'Miracle.'

My first exposure to her music was her self-titled album, which is the
second Heidi Berry release on 4AD. It does have a 'folk' sound to it, as
Pepe said (I think).

I recently got Heidi Berry's first release on 4AD, 'Love,' which I like to
listen to more than the self-title release. 'Love' is more upbeat and less
sad than the self-titled album, and the string arrangements are less
generic sounding. I like sad music like Red House Painters and His Name Is
Alive ("Are you comin' down this weekend?") and the second Heidi Berry
album is good in bringing out the sadness.

I can't say much about the new Heidi Berry album, 'Miracle.' It sounded a
lot like 'Love,' which is good.

--- Lucius Kwok  (lucius@astro.temple.edu) ---
       http://astro.temple.edu/~lucius


Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:59:35 -0500
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu)
Subject: Re: Judgement of Paris


Hey...  I've got bad news on Judgement of Paris.  I'm good friends with
Christian and Joel and JOP is not currently active.  I guess that they
might put out another record SOMEDAY but right now for all intensive
purposes the band is done.

        THe good news is that Christian and Joel have a new, equally beautiful
band called Passage.  It's much more acoustic. (the only electiric
instrument is the bass.  the setup is 2 acoustic guitars, bass, drums,
Christian still singing and also is joined by a lovely-voiced female
singer named Diana.  And of course, the Hammered Dulcimer is still
there. They have recorded an album(which is beautiful!) and are
currently looking for a label to release it.  So right now all they have
is a cassette e.p.  which I can get you if you're interested.  Other
than that stop through Minneapolis sometime and catch one of their
shows!

Hope this helps...

matt

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:17:43 -0500
From: "MacLeod, Robert B." (MacLeod_Robert_B@FS811.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL)
Subject: detox, hArk


Hey
  I'm sure (?) it's been posted before, but what are the Detox releases
so-far??
i.e. if The Aeroplane 12 is #9603, presumably there are #s 9601 and
9602?  Is any of this worth tracking down, the Aeroplane 12 sounds cool.
   Oh yeah, similar question of the 'completist' sort, sorta aimed at
Gil, recently I picked up a 12 buy Papa Sprain, called 'May', on the
elusive hArk! label/project/ whatever that was. (A.R.Kane's
studio/production/Rough Trade related(?) label)  Anyway, again obsessing
over catelogue #s, it appears there were 6-7 releases in this series,
all I have is the Papa Sprain (highly reccomended), and a Butterfly
Child 12 called 'Eucalyptus' (essential).   Does anyone know what the
others were?
   Also interested in the Judgement Of Paris mystery.  passed over
second album like a fool, prob never see it again.  Did have a t-shirt
from Woody tho, 'Signals' right?  They were / are cool,  would expect a
long series of quality releases from them on whatever label sharp enough
to pick them up ...
Bruce

here's some spare parentheses ...  (   )
here's a spare question mark ... ?

um, still dizzy too


Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:04:03 EST
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: DAVID LOVERING


PEREZ GUTTEREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@LHP.GDL.ITESO.MX) wrote

>>   I heard the other day that David Lovering ( Pixies) will be
playing drums on the new Tanya Donelly album, is that true?<<

  I heard the same, but when they are playing a couple of dates
here she has got Stacy Jones on drums. Previous experience is
with Letters to Cleo, Fuzzy and Aimee Mann. Maybe David couldn't
free himself from comittments for touring.

Steve.
s.a.hipkiss@bham.ac.uk

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:44:05 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: list admin


>     I belong to a list that sends out a 'how to unsubscribe' message
>once a month. Not terrably annoying...                         Pat

I know that there are a lot of things that _can_ be done to relieve the
problem of newbies not knowing how to unsubscribe. My point is that we're
not going to be able to implement them unless we have a real live list
administrator with some privileges to control the list server.

Actually I suppose some random subscriber could rig up a script that once
a month fired a message at the list, namely the 'how to unsubscribe'
thing. It would probably be needed once a week, really, since the newbies
these days seem to wait a much shorter time before they start with the
kicking & screaming.

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:26:47 -0800
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Paladins rock bottom


Hey there 4ad-l. I've had my acct set to nomail
for a week now, and you know what? I don't seem to miss it
much at all. Just for tradition's sake, I'll probably
set it back in a few days, but it sure won't be from continued
faith in the label.

The Paladins. Finally heard them. Shades of Reggie Perrin
all over again. This from the man who only ten years ago
said he didn't want to release any American bands. And
what's more annoyingly American than hackneyed bar-room
redneck blues? I actually envy those people a little who can like
this stuff one minute and then be singing the praises of
Slowdive the next minute. Call me narrow minded, call me
Euro-centric, call me set in my ways, but try as I may
blues does little more than get on my nerves. I'd
put it right up there with gangsta rap, smarmy Musak
recordings of favorite hits of the 70's, mindless new age,
soul-less techno, disco, and other banalities. Now I would
agree that blues probably in most cases requires more talent
that anything else on this list, but it's a talent that
my poor little brain can't appreciate. But each to his own,
and I'll go wash the foul taste away with something I can get
into like Siddal or Love Spirals Downwards.

Could the Paladins really be a stunt to destroy the label
from the inside? And us suckers are going to force ourselves
to like it, just like we did with Tarnation and Scheer.
Man, if that Jive Bombers album was going to come out,
then the shit would really hit the fan... I will forever maintain
that this was to be a cruel joke.

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:58:40 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: need recommendations


Hi all,

I'm considering purchasing the following albums and would appreciate your
opinion on them. Please email me personally.

Modern English - After the Snow
The Orb - Orbus Terrarum
The Amps - Pacer

Thanks,
matthew


Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:21:35 -0500
From: Joshua Harmon (jnh4@CORNELL.EDU)
Subject: 3 LPs for sale


Hello All,

I have 3 non-4AD records from my collection I'd like to sell as I never
play them.  They are 4AD-related (no I will not use that other adjective).
Best offer received by email by 11/14 takes each; email me for more info or
track listings etc at .  Thanks.

--Savage Republic:  Tragic Figures  (pre-Scenic, who got a lot of list
attention this summer, so I thought people here might be interested in
this).  Independent Project Records 004, vinyl and inner/outer jackets in
mint shape.

--The Perfect Disaster:  up (pre-Breeders--Josephine Wiggs' old band).
Fire Records (FIREUS1-1).  Includes a bonus promo-only 7" (FIREUSO) which
is a ltd ed of 1500.  Jacket near mint, vinyl mint (both).

I'm sure someone can correct me on this but I believe the rumor is that
Kendra Smith couldn't tour but suggested her friend Hope Sandoval which is
how Mazzy Star formed.  Jacket excellent (2 slightly creased corners),
vinyl near mint.


Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:13:58 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins rock bottom


Brant Nelson wrote:

>Could the Paladins really be a stunt to destroy the label
>from the inside? And us suckers are going to force ourselves
>to like it, just like we did with Tarnation and Scheer.
>Man, if that Jive Bombers album was going to come out,
>then the shit would really hit the fan... I will forever maintain
>that this was to be a cruel joke.

Here we go again - the usual 'why can't 4AD be like it was in 1985' rant. Yeah,
the Paladins album was shit. So what. 4AD has a history of putting out the odd
steaming turd in its otherwise excellent schedules. It's nothing new. The
problem I had with it was not that it was blues, but that it was so tiresomely
hackneyed and cliched - a lot like so many of these nth generation My Bloody
Valentine and Cocteau Twins clones. It still astonishes me how people still
cling to this myth that 4AD is some kind of 'genre' label. It's nearly always
been pretty diverse, perhaps more so in the nineties. Personally, I would like
to see more of this genre-smashing and boundary-hopping, as long as for every
Scheer and Paladins we get a Gus Gus, a Tarnation and a Mojave 3, then I think
that's a pretty healthy hit rate - i mean, it's not as if there's any compulsion
to buy everything (or anything) released. If you really hate everything they put
out this days, then you should unsubscribe pronto, and allow the list to be used
by those who still have an interest in the label.
By the way, I was really looking forward to the jive bombers. I think it's about
time we had a doo-wop revival. After all, there is more soul, feeling and
emotion in two and a half minutes of 'Earth Angel' than a shed-load of
swirly-guitar Slowdive-imitators.

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Only if it's not techno, disco, hip hop, blues, doo-wop etc etc. :-)

- Dez


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