Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:01 -0500
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:26:12 -0800
>btw. anyone heard about "MEDESKI MARTIN & WOOD" ? they feature in ATN's
>sonic lodge but the sound quality there is not a whole lot better than
>random static noise. (http://www.addict.com)
If anyone in the bay area is interested, Medeski, Martin & Wood and the
Charlie Hunter Quartet are playing on the 21st. Should be one hell of a
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:12:25 -0500
jack are new on too pure, they have one album out and an ep that has great
song on it called "wintercomessummer" that kind of reminds me of the fall-
it's got mark e. smith-esque speaking during the verse and then some
smithy (as in the smiths) la las for the chorus.
at times they remind me of moose- hence the band name... at other times i
think they get kind of cheesy...
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:39:41 +0500
hey, does anyone know what has happened to that most excellent 'zine
*whirlpool* put out by adam and catherine from alison's halo?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:40 -0500
> It seems pretty blindingly obvious that we really need a list admin...
We need a > "welcome" message sent to new subscribers, we need an admin
to watch for the
> inevitable 'unsubscribe me' messages and take care of them...
Just a suggestion for anyone that could do anything about it: I am on
another list that has the "instructions" for unsubscribing appear as a
signature at the end of each digest....but of course this only works for
the people who get this in digest form!
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:06 -0700
Are any of these items still available? Please let me know at the
following address. Thanks!
Ben T. Willardsen
From: M. Garrett/H. Payne
Date: 10/15/96 10:44:19AM
To: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>
*This is the 2nd annual <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>.
*The list of items is long and includes CDs, 7 and 12 inches,
*The auction is open to cash, money order, and check bids, as
trade offers. (If you are interested in trading, please
refer to my
WANT list at the end of this message. I prefer offers that
items from my WANT list over anything else, including cash,
give priority to such trade offers.)
*When making bids/offers, please estimate your total to include
costs (particularly if you live outside of the contiguous US).
*This is the first and last time I will post this to the
4AD-List -- all
auctioning is to be conducted off of the List, and bidders
*Everything is in excellent condition, unless otherwise noted.
*The auction will end at 10pm EST on Tuesday, October 22.
*If you are interested in one or more items, direct your
private e-mail to Mike at BLANKET@WORLD.STD.COM
CDs for Sale/Trade
AIR MIAMI -- I Hate Milk (4AD/PRO-CD-7816) Promo cd
album version of title track. In jewel case.
AMERICAN MUSIC CLUB -- Over And Done
Promo-only cd single with title track, plus two great non-album
THE AMPS -- Tipp City (Elektra/PRCD-9363) 1 track promo
single with album version. In jewel case.
APHEX TWIN -- Words and Music (Sire/WB/PRO-Cd-6878)
only interview cd from 1994. 29 minutes.
BELLY -- Sun (Sire/PRO-CD-7774) Promo-only ep in
slipcase, featuring Judas My Heart, 2 tracks recorded live in
(Judas My Heart, and The Bees), and 2 non-album tracks (Judas
Coeur, and Spaceman).
HEIDI BERRY -- Distant Thunder (4AD/PRO-CD-6544)
cd with album version, and 3 non-album tracks: Zither Song, You
the Grace of Living When You Lie, and Gloria (from the UK album
FRANK BLACK -- Conversation and Music With...
8829) Promo-only cd, 45 minutes. Interviewed by Kurt St.
June 22, 1993. White carboard sleeve with image of FB on round
FRANK BLACK -- Live 6/24/93 10pm est (Elektra/4AD/PRCD?)
Promo-only cd, 45 minutes. Frank Black and They Might Be Giants
performing 14 FB and TMBG songs.
CATHERINE WHEEL -- The Nude (Fontana/CDP-1191) Promo
Digi-pak foldout with three photos. 1 track: Scott Litt remix.
NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS -- I Had A Dream, Joe (Mute/
PR8622) Promo-only single with title track, plus live versions
Good Son, The Carney, and The Mercy Seat.
CHAPTERHOUSE -- Mermerise (BMG/RDJ-62151) Promo copy of
with title track, Precious One, Summer Chill, and Then We Will
CHAPTERHOUSE -- Falling Down (BMG/RDJ-62019) Promo
19 minutes. 4 tracks: 2 from album, plus Feel the Same, and
CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2626)
Promo ep. 36 minutes. 4 tracks: two remixes, plus Frost, and
CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2640)
Promo cd with US Edit of title track, plus Spookys Extravaganja
CONTROLLED BLEEDING -- Songs from the Ashes (CLM-CD022)
Promo copy. 70 minutes. 16 tracks.
CURVE -- Horror Head (Charisma/PRCD-0100) Promo cd with
Moulder mix of HH, and live versions of Coast Is Clear and Die
Like A Dog.
COCTEAU TWINS -- Peppermint Pig (4AD/BAD 303CD)
UK cd with 7 inch and 12 inch versions of PP, plus Laugh Lines,
CORNERSHOP -- Wog (WB/PRO-CD-7949) Promo single with 5
mixes of title track by Freaky Chakra and Witchman.
CRANES -- Shining Road (Arista/ASCD-2756) Promo cd with
version of title track, Flood 12 inch remixes of Lilies and
Paris & Rome,
an instrumental version of Green Song, and September.
CRANES -- Adrift (Dedicated/Crane005CD) UK single with
tracks Adrift, Everywhere, and Underwater.
CRANES -- Lilies (Arista/ASCD-2793) Promo-only ep
rare and unreleased tracks, including Brighter, Casa Blanca,
Leave Her to
Heaven, Shine Like Stars, plus Flood mixes of Lilies and Paris
THE DAMBUILDERS -- Jailbreak 1991 (Eastwast/PRCD-5874)
Promo-only ep with 3 unreleased tracks, and an early version of
that later appeared on their recent album.
THE DAMBUILDERS -- Speed Is the Object
Promo only ep. 5 tracks, 3 unreleased, including a cover of an
DEAD CAN DANCE -- American Dreaming (PRO-CD-7213) Promo
cd with album version. CD color is TTW-grey, not usual
DEAD CAN DANCE -- Toward the Within (VADD4015) Limited
cardboard box with the CD and videotape. Mint condition (still
DELERIUM -- Euphoric (Third Mind/TMD-9262) 34 minute ep
1991 with title track, plus Decade, Grave Mentor, and Sorrow.
EDEN -- Gateway to the Mysteries (Third Mind/TMD-9219)
copy. 71 minutes. 16 tracks.
BRIAN ENO -- Ali Click (Opal/WB-9-40650) Compact Disc
Single. 41 minutes. 8 tracks: 7 remixes, plus I Fall Up.
BRIAN ENO -- Fractal Zoom (Opal/WB-9-40539) 70 minute
with 12 tracks: 11 remixes, plus The Roil, The Choke.
THE FRANK AND WALTERS -- s/t (Setana/Go! Discs/162351005)
Cut-out copy with 10 tracks, 3 of which were produced by Edwyn
LISA GERMANO -- You Make Me Want to Wear Dresses
DPRO-79747) Promo-only single of radio version from original
release, with picture of LG on cover.
LISA GERMANO -- Cry Wolf (4AD/PRO-CD-7347) Promo-only
featuring edit version of CW, remixes of Sexy Little Girl
and Cancer of Everything, plus non-album track The Mirror Is
HALF STRING -- Tripped Up Breathing (IPR-048CD)
5 track ep in beautiful Independent Project Records packaging.
HUMAN DRAMA -- s/t (Projekt/PRO052) 28 minutes. 8
including a re-recording of their 1989 single The Waiting Hour.
IVY -- no title (SEED/PRCD 6474) Promo-only tour cd
single with a
remix of Beautiful, and an acoustic version of Dont Believe A
KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION -- Quick As Rainbows (A&M/75021-
7536) Promo-only single with title track, plus These Drinkers,
Elephantiny, and Three To Beam Up. In cardboard slipcase.
LUNA -- 3 Stories (Elektra/Prcd 9241) Promo-only cd with
Chinatown, 23 Minutes In Brussels, and Bonnie and Clyde.
LUSH -- Last Night (4AD/PRO-CD-8034) Promo-only cd with
mixes of Last Night, remixes of Undertow and Lovelife, plus the
MEDICINE -- Shot Forth Self Living (Def American/45067)
copy of 1992 album with 9 tracks, including 5ive and Aruca.
MINXUS -- s/t (Too Pure/PURECD-40) UK ep featuring
Steal, Today I..., and Silk Purse, Slender Means.
MOJAVE 3 -- Love Songs On the Radio (4AD/PRO-CD-7960)
single with radio edit of title track.
PETER MURPHY -- Youre So Close (Beggars
Cut-out copy of single with album track, plus live versions of
Between the Devils Teeth, Cuts You Up, and All Night Long.
NEGATIVLAND -- Fair Use: Story of the Letter U and the
(Seeland-013CD) Promo release version. 72 minutes. 9 songs
26-minute spoken word piece. Radio sampler from CD/book
NEW ORDER -- World (The Price of Love) (WB/PRO-CD-6276)
Promo single with 4 mixes of title track.
PALE SAINTS -- Angel (Will You Be My) (4AD/PRO-CD-7140)
cd with album version. CD art different from usual
PALE SAINTS -- Henry (4AD/PRO-CD-7131) Promo single with
album versions of Henry and One Blue Hill.
SCHEER -- Schism ep (4AD/BAD5012) UK ep in foldout
SPACEMEN 3 -- Big City (RCA/RDJ-2801) Promo release. 20
minutes. 4 tracks: Drive, Big City (Waves of Joy) demo, Drive
(Everybody I Know Can Be Found Here), and Drive (demo).
STRAITJACKET FITS -- Missing from Melt (Arista/ASCD-2244)
3 remixes, plus non-album tracks In Spite of It All and Cave In.
SWELL -- Forget About Jesus ep (American/ARB-4CD) UK ep.
Tracks: title (alt. version), Hell No, What I Saw, Forget About
SWELL -- Room To Think (Def American/PRO-CD-5917) 1993
Promo ep with At Long Last, Here It Is, Lifes Great, Give, Just
SWERVEDRIVER -- Sandblasted ep (Creation/CRESCD102)
ep with title track, Flawed, Out, and Laze It Up. Slightly
SWERVEDRIVER -- Reel to Real (A&M/75021-2402) Promo
16 minutes. 4 tracks, three of which are exclusive.
SWERVEDRIVER -- Never Lose That Feeling
UK ep with NLTF, Scrawl And Scream, Hands, and alt. version of
SWERVEDRIVER -- Duel (Creation/CRESCD136) UK single
track, Planes Over the Skyline, and Year of the Girl.
UNDERWORLD -- Pearls Girl (TVT8739-2P) Promo-only cd
slimline case, with the radio edit, album version, and carp
VARIOUS -- Guernica sampler (GUP-3-CD) 1993 UK promo
3 tracks each from Insides, That Dog, and Spoonfed Hybrid in
VARIOUS -- The Winter of Our Discontent (T&N/Volume1)
Nail Records 1994 Winter Sampler. 74 minutes. 23 tracks: 2-4
each from Star Flyer 59, MxPx, Havalina Moon, and 5 more bands.
VARIOUS -- Trademark of Quality 1996
22 track promo-only cd of rarities, like Lush covering an Elvis
song. Plus rare tracks from Tarnation, Nick Cave, Spectrum,
VARIOUS -- Opal: Assembly 1 (PRO-CD-3175) Promo-only
34 minutes. 10 track sampler of Opal recording artists,
Largo, Brian Eno, Roger Eno, Harold Budd and Laraaji. With a
VARIOUS -- Too Pure sampler (Too Pure/Rough Trade/RTD121-
3075) UK promo sampler with album cuts from Mouse on Mars,
Long Fin Killie, and Minxus, plus the unreleased demo of
y of a
First Son by Jack.
THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- Mamma Told Me Not to Come
5 track single with remixes of Mamma Told Me Not to Come and
Birmingham to Jerusalem. Slight scuff on Digi-Pak spine.
Vinyl for Sale/Trade
AIR MIAMI -- I Hate Milk (remix)/Afternoon Train Train
(4AD/PRO-S-7823) Promo-only 7 inch with 2 exclusive remixes.
ALISONS HALO -- Dozen/Calendar (IPR049) Promo copy. 2
7 inch. Letterpress foldover sleeve.
TORI AMOS -- Under the Pink (Atlantic/82567) Special
edition pink vinyl LP. Still in shrink wrap!
AREA -- Fragments of the Morning (CLM-LP031) Promo
minute LP. 10 tracks on white vinyl. Slight scuffing on
AREA -- The Perfect Dream (CLM-LP006) Promo copy. 10
BRIAN -- You Dont Want A Boyfriend (Detzi/DTZ-1) 1991 7
featuring title track and Dont Leave Me Behind.
COCTEAU TWINS -- A Kissed Out Red Floatboat (SPRO-79512)
Promo 1 track 2-sided 12 inch single.
TH FAITH HEALERS -- My Loser/Oh Baby (Elektra/ST-E-64666)
Promo 7 inch welcoming TFH to Elektra in 1992. Transparent blue
HALF STRING -- Oval/Sun Less Sea (IPR047/TX002) Promo
2 track 7 inch. Limited edition of 1000. Letterpress foldover
HEAVENLY BODIES -- Celestial (CLM-LP010) Promo copy. 9
HUMAN HANDS -- s/t (IPR/005) 2nd Edition IPR reissue
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:22 -0800
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Jack Huynh
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:38 PST
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:42:36 +0100 Frank Brinkhuis
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:30 -0500
>If you like the sounds some people call 'trip hop' you should try the debut
>album by the uk girl-boy-duo 'Lamb'. The cd is also called 'Lamb' and
>released on Mercury Records last week. Ten songs and one hidden track.
I agree, lamb rocks. I picked it up a few weeks ago (on fontana) and
didn't mention it here because I have been kind of out of it lately and
figured you'd all have it by now!:) In fact, I remember seeing something
about them on this list a LOOOOOONNNGGGG time ago, and then I was of the
list all summer so I wasn't sure what was up. ANYWAY....in my opionion
this is a truly original combination. Louise has a totaly beautiful voice,
and although I am not really into the whole trip-hop/ jungle scene I like
the beats, etc. on this album. I recommend it highly. I am really
terrible at reviewing things, so I know this hasn't helped much, sorry!
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:17:26 EST
> I don't know the title [of the Lisa Gerrard track(s) in the movie],
even if I listen to this
> album relatively often, anyway it is played in a scene where Al Pacino
walk through a
> room with some scattered dead bodies, and is the only 4AD piece, if I'm
Um, no offense, but trust us, you are. I rented that movie twice, and
even though I couldn't make it all the way through either time (*yawn*),
I remember hearing at least two Michael Brook songs. I wouldn't know
about the Gerrard tracks, aside from probably recognizing her voice if
I'd been awake during the scene...
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:34:32 -0000
this list is driving me mad, i cannot receive any mail anymore, how do i
unsusbscribe?, i know you warned me to keep the notice of my subscription, but
it got deleted since i had so much mail because of this list. PLEASE HELP
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:00:43 -0500
> i think id like to know what exactly anyone knows about rosewater elizabeth..
> i heard of them because a friend of mine is from tampa, and sent me a tape
> of theirs 3 or 4 years ago.. he said "they're a local band.. you might like
> them..." and boy did i.. how did the rest of the world hear of them?
A friend lend me a cd from Rosewater Elizabeth about a month
ago, i can't remember the name of that cd though -the cover was blue
and there was a girl underwater- i like it, the influences i see on
them are dead can dance, cocteau twins and enya, some songs are great
and some others are not so fine. Good but not so mindblowing, at
least it was my impression.
Do they have anything else?
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:28 -0800
A statement by the guy who started the 'out-of-tune' controversy so I
can defuse this thread and hopefully stop seeing useless posts:
Joy Division with Ian Curtis on vocals, was THE most important link
between punk and the new wave movement and is THE progenerator of the
music all us 'scary dark death dorks' (a little joke...) talk about on
this list. Ian was not out of tune, he was Ian. "Love Will Tear Us
Apart", esp the fast version, is THE single reason all of you are on
this list talking today, whether you understand the history or not.
Also thank the Velvets, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Siouxsie and, BION,
Genesis of the late 70s early 80s.
Now wake up and go create something interesting like Scala, AMP or
Scenic. And study computer science and electrical engineering--we're
running out of NCS and AEs!
Thank you for your time. dans
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:06:16 -0800
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, lorelei tremolor
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:14:58 -0800
>CAN SOMEONE SEND INFO ON HOW I CAN GET UNSUBSCRIBED FROM THIS
>GROUP?? 4AD-L ??? THANK YOU....
No, you *MUST* look it up via a search engine, like I did to obtain the
digest version...you lazy shite of a turkey roast that was over cooked in
an electric oven.
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:33:03 -0600
>>season of the witch, as most of you probably know, is a cover, and
>>i can thus feel comfortable that luna are not stealing riffs from tracy
>>chapman, but that she is stealing them from donovan leitch (this joke, of
>>course, is lost on anyone not familiar with this song -- having alienated
>>half the list, i continue...)
>Well, okay...SOTW is by Donovan (Donovan Leitch's dad), so I'm with you so
>far - where does Tracy Chapman fit into this?
tc had a big hit single (one of those ones from which you cannot escape)
earlier this summer, and the guitar intro to that song is identical to the
intro to season of the witch.
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:51:31 +0100
Bought Dynamite, the new Stina Nordenstam album, over a week ago.
Some other guy already posted a review, but there's always
room for an additional view isn't it?
The main difference between Dynamite, and Stina's 2 earlier albums is
that she has taken up playing the guitar. Her guitar climpering
is practically everywhere on the album. In addition there are some
string arrangements here and there.
This more or less makes up the soundscape on the album.
It's not as diverse as on her earlier albums, which I think is a
bit strange, as the 10 songs were recorded in no less than 5 different
Her guitar playing is neither good nor bad I guess. It's very sparse,
almost an ambient feeling to it (so don't expect any AC/DC riffs:-).
There are some weird and shrill sounds on it, though.
It's very little percussion on it, few jazz arrangements, but it's
more ambient and quiet.
The Stina Nordenstam "feeling" is still there though; perfect for
sitting inside sipping tea, while the rain is pouring outside, and the
leaves are falling off the trees.
Her lyrics are still intact too. I think she has an exceptional talent,
of telling a whole story with only a few lines in her songs, but still
leave room for secrets and wondering.
She describes it best herself in "CQD":
"I finally fell in that black hole, between your sentences"
It seems like Stina has become a meaner Stina Nordenstam on "Dynamite".
The lyrics have several references to darkness, murder and killing.
The picture of Stina on the back of the CD, also hints that she claims
to get rid of the "nice little girl" image she might have got trapped in(?)
Either that, or she has been listening too much on Nick Cave's "Murder
The final verdict then:
I think I will play this record a lot. Her previous albums set ridiculously
high standards, though. And I prefer those albums to
"Dynamite". Although songs like the ending track, "Now that you're leaving",
and the title track, "Dynamite", is easily up there among here best
efforts. That said I think it's an album that may grow on me,
and anyhow it is much better than most music being released these days.
E-mail : firstname.lastname@example.org Real name: Kjetil Kristiansen
Snail mail: Berg Studentby, P24, 7016 Tr.heim, Norway
"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:53:37 +0000
Oct 29, 96 11:37:22 pm
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:09:27 +0000
"lorelei tremolor" at Nov 5, 96 00:12:25 am
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:40:13 EST
> Dave Sargent
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:45:07 -0400
If you don't get me off this fuckin' list I'm voting for Dole
I'm not fuckin' kidding
I'll do it
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:59:31 -0500
Hull" at Nov 4, 96 01:33:52 pm
> I seem to remember hearing that one of the first movies to use popular
> music in its soundtrack was "The Graduate" (1967), with all those Simon
> and Garfunkel tunes. I'm not sure if this is true either, though.
Let's not get too far off track here. We're talking about using
rock and roll in movies, not popular music. Movies have been using
popular music since the very beginning. Remember "The Jazz Singer"?
As for rock and roll, did Elvis make a ton of movies, or didn't he?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:21:44 -0500
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:13:07 -0500
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:37:53 EST
> If you don't get me off this fuckin' list I'm voting for Dole
> I'm not fuckin' kidding
> I'm serious
> I'll do it
dont let it happen.
someone help this nice chap...
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:53:53 PST
>> the credit for the first movie to have a soundtrack
>> based on rock music goes for wim wenders' "wings of
>> desire" . ?1990?
>This statement of fact is suspect.
you're probably right. and I probably should have verified my facts
before posting . sorry.
>Was anyone else here alive when "Pretty in Pink" (blech!) came out?
tough question. you'll have to define the essence of being alive, as well
as give the year of release for said movie.
>Don't believe everything you read.
I don't believe *anything* I read , or see , or hear, or feel. just a
matter of philosophical prudence.
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:02:14 +0000
Kelley's band is called "The Kelley Deal 6000."
She is currently living in Saint Paul,MN on Grand Avenue... Right across
the river from Minneapolis.
Why? She formed her band DUring and following her Drug Rehabilitation
program at Hazelden in Minnesota. I'm not sure if she'll be rejoining
the Breeders but her band is really cool. How do I know all this? I
used to serve her coffee every afternoon at a coffeeshop just down the
street from where she lives. Very nice woman...