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Subject: Re: Virginia Astley
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:01 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: medeski, martin & wood
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:26:12 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:12:25 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: *whirlpool*???
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:39:41 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: list admin
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:40 -0500
From: Monica Sather (mm.sather@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: Re: <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:06 -0700
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:22 -0800
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:38 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: lamb
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:30 -0500
From: Monica Sather (mm.sather@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: Re: 4AD music in Heat
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:17:26 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: cancel
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:34:32 -0000
From: edith plascencia (galaxie500@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:00:43 -0500
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: On Ian Curtis by the guy who hates the Breeders/Paladins
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:28 -0800
From: Dan Shubin (dans@europa.com)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:06:16 -0800
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Ian Curtis
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:14:58 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: new luna EP
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:33:03 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Stina Nordenstam - Dynamite
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:51:31 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (Kjetil.Kristiansen@IDT.NTNU.NO)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:53:37 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:09:27 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:40:13 EST
From: Princess Coldheart (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:45:07 -0400
From: me (jab4@STERN.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll in movies
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:59:31 -0500
From: John Porter (jporter@SHIRE.BTG.COM)
Subject: PV
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:21:44 -0500
From: Tym Rourke (trourke@LESLEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: list admin
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:13:07 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:37:53 EST
From: Princess Coldheart (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:53:53 PST
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Kelley Deal & co.
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:02:14 +0000
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu)

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:01 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virginia Astley


<<<<

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:26:12 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: medeski, martin & wood


>
>
>btw. anyone heard about "MEDESKI MARTIN & WOOD" ? they feature in ATN's
>sonic lodge but the sound quality there is not a whole lot better than
>random static noise.  (http://www.addict.com)

If anyone in the bay area is interested, Medeski, Martin & Wood and the
Charlie Hunter Quartet are playing on the 21st.  Should be one hell of a
concert.

Jake

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:12:25 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band


jack are new on too pure, they have one album out and an ep that has great
song on it called "wintercomessummer" that kind of reminds me of the fall-
it's got mark e. smith-esque speaking during the verse and then some
smithy (as in the smiths) la las for the chorus.

at times they remind me of moose- hence the band name... at other times i
think they get kind of cheesy...


lorelei
procrastinating


Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:39:41 +0500
From: susan marie mcgowan (sumcgowa@VT.EDU)
Subject: *whirlpool*???


hey, does anyone know what has happened to that most excellent 'zine
*whirlpool* put out by adam and catherine from alison's halo?
thanks, ~susan.

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:40 -0500
From: Monica Sather (mm.sather@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: list admin


> It seems pretty blindingly obvious that we really need a list admin...
We need a > "welcome" message sent to new subscribers, we need an admin
to watch for the
> inevitable 'unsubscribe me' messages and take care of them...


Just a suggestion for anyone that could do anything about it: I am on
another list that has the "instructions" for unsubscribing appear as a
signature at the end of each digest....but of course this only works for
the people who get this in digest form!

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:06 -0700
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>


Hello,
  Are any of these items still available?  Please let me know at the
following address.  Thanks!

Ben T. Willardsen
bwillard@xmission.com


     From: M. Garrett/H. Payne
     Date: 10/15/96  10:44:19AM
     To: 4ad recording artists list
     Subject: <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>

     *This is the 2nd annual <<4AD-and-Related Music Auction>>.
     *The list of items is long and includes CDs, 7 and 12 inches,
     and posters.
     *The auction is open to cash, money order, and check bids, as
     well as
       trade offers.  (If you are interested in trading, please
     refer to my
       WANT list at the end of this message.  I prefer offers that
     fulfill
       items from my WANT list over anything else, including cash,
     and will
       give priority to such trade offers.)
     *When making bids/offers, please estimate your total to include
     shipping
       costs (particularly if you live outside of the contiguous US).
     *This is the first and last time I will post this to the
     4AD-List -- all
       auctioning is to be conducted off of the List, and bidders
     will be
       updated privately.
     *Everything is in excellent condition, unless otherwise noted.
     *The auction will end at 10pm EST on Tuesday, October 22.
     *If you are interested in one or more items, direct your
     bids/offers by
       private e-mail to Mike at BLANKET@WORLD.STD.COM


     ==============
     CDs for Sale/Trade
     ==============

            AIR MIAMI -- I Hate Milk (4AD/PRO-CD-7816)  Promo cd
     single with
     album version of title track.  In jewel case.
            AMERICAN MUSIC CLUB -- Over And Done
     (Reprise/PRO-CD-6233)
     Promo-only cd single with title track, plus two great non-album
     tracks.
            THE AMPS -- Tipp City (Elektra/PRCD-9363)  1 track promo
     cd
     single with album version.  In jewel case.
            APHEX TWIN -- Words and Music (Sire/WB/PRO-Cd-6878)
     Promo-
     only interview cd from 1994.  29 minutes.
            BELLY -- Sun (Sire/PRO-CD-7774)  Promo-only ep in
     cardboard
     slipcase, featuring Judas My Heart, 2 tracks recorded live in
     London
     (Judas My Heart, and The Bees), and 2 non-album tracks (Judas
     Mon
     Coeur, and Spaceman).
            HEIDI BERRY -- Distant Thunder (4AD/PRO-CD-6544)
     Promo-only
     cd with album version, and 3 non-album tracks: Zither Song, You
     Upset
     the Grace of Living When You Lie, and Gloria (from the UK album
     Love).
            FRANK BLACK -- Conversation and Music With...
     (Elektra/PRCD-
     8829)  Promo-only cd, 45 minutes.  Interviewed by Kurt St.
     Thomas,
     June 22, 1993.  White carboard sleeve with image of FB on round
     sticker.
            FRANK BLACK -- Live 6/24/93 10pm est (Elektra/4AD/PRCD?)
     Promo-only cd, 45 minutes.  Frank Black and They Might Be Giants
     performing 14 FB and TMBG songs.
            CATHERINE WHEEL -- The Nude (Fontana/CDP-1191)  Promo
     single.
     Digi-pak foldout with three photos.  1 track: Scott Litt remix.
            NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS -- I Had A Dream, Joe (Mute/
     PR8622)  Promo-only single with title track, plus live versions
     of The
     Good Son, The Carney, and The Mercy Seat.
            CHAPTERHOUSE -- Mermerise (BMG/RDJ-62151)  Promo copy of
     ep
     with title track, Precious One, Summer Chill, and Then We Will
     Rise.
            CHAPTERHOUSE -- Falling Down (BMG/RDJ-62019)  Promo
     single.
     19 minutes.  4 tracks: 2 from album, plus Feel the Same, and
     Satin Safe.
            CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2626)
     Promo ep.  36 minutes.  4 tracks: two remixes, plus Frost, and
     Picnic.
            CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2640)
     Promo cd with US Edit of title track, plus Spookys Extravaganja
     Dub Mix.
            CONTROLLED BLEEDING -- Songs from the Ashes (CLM-CD022)
     Promo copy.  70 minutes.  16 tracks.
            CURVE -- Horror Head (Charisma/PRCD-0100)  Promo cd with
     Alan
     Moulder mix of HH, and live versions of Coast Is Clear and Die
     Like A Dog.
            COCTEAU TWINS -- Peppermint Pig (4AD/BAD 303CD)
     Out-of-print
     UK cd with 7 inch and 12 inch versions of PP, plus Laugh Lines,
     and Hazel.
            CORNERSHOP -- Wog (WB/PRO-CD-7949)  Promo single with 5
     mixes of title track by Freaky Chakra and Witchman.
            CRANES -- Shining Road (Arista/ASCD-2756)  Promo cd with
     album
     version of title track, Flood 12 inch remixes of Lilies and
     Paris & Rome,
     an instrumental version of Green Song, and September.
            CRANES -- Adrift (Dedicated/Crane005CD)  UK single with
     the
     tracks Adrift, Everywhere, and Underwater.
            CRANES -- Lilies (Arista/ASCD-2793)  Promo-only ep
     compiling
     rare and unreleased tracks, including Brighter, Casa Blanca,
     Leave Her to
     Heaven, Shine Like Stars, plus Flood mixes of Lilies and Paris
     & Rome.
            THE DAMBUILDERS -- Jailbreak 1991 (Eastwast/PRCD-5874)
     Promo-only ep with 3 unreleased tracks, and an early version of
     a song
     that later appeared on their recent album.
            THE DAMBUILDERS -- Speed Is the Object
     (Eastwest/PRCD-9384)
     Promo only ep.  5 tracks, 3 unreleased, including a cover of an
     X song.
            DEAD CAN DANCE -- American Dreaming (PRO-CD-7213)  Promo
     cd with album version. CD color is TTW-grey, not usual
     promo-orange.
            DEAD CAN DANCE -- Toward the Within (VADD4015)  Limited
     edition
     cardboard box with the CD and videotape.  Mint condition (still
     unused!).
            DELERIUM -- Euphoric (Third Mind/TMD-9262)  34 minute ep
     from
     1991 with title track, plus Decade, Grave Mentor, and Sorrow.
            EDEN -- Gateway to the Mysteries (Third Mind/TMD-9219)
     Promo
     copy.  71 minutes.  16 tracks.
            BRIAN ENO -- Ali Click (Opal/WB-9-40650)  Compact Disc
     Maxi-
     Single.  41 minutes.  8 tracks: 7 remixes, plus I Fall Up.
            BRIAN ENO -- Fractal Zoom (Opal/WB-9-40539)  70 minute
     single
     with 12 tracks: 11 remixes, plus The Roil, The Choke.
            THE FRANK AND WALTERS -- s/t (Setana/Go! Discs/162351005)
     Cut-out copy with 10 tracks, 3 of which were produced by Edwyn
     Collins.
            LISA GERMANO -- You Make Me Want to Wear Dresses
     (Capitol/
     DPRO-79747)  Promo-only single of radio version from original
     Capitol
     release, with picture of LG on cover.
            LISA GERMANO -- Cry Wolf (4AD/PRO-CD-7347)  Promo-only
     single
     featuring edit version of CW, remixes of Sexy Little Girl
     Princess
     and Cancer of Everything, plus non-album track The Mirror Is
     Gone.
            HALF STRING -- Tripped Up Breathing  (IPR-048CD)
     Limited edition
     5 track ep in beautiful Independent Project Records packaging.
            HUMAN DRAMA -- s/t (Projekt/PRO052)  28 minutes.  8
     tracks,
     including a re-recording of their 1989 single The Waiting Hour.
            IVY -- no title (SEED/PRCD 6474)  Promo-only tour cd
     single with a
     remix of Beautiful, and an acoustic version of Dont Believe A
     Word.
            KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION -- Quick As Rainbows (A&M/75021-
     7536)  Promo-only single with title track, plus These Drinkers,
     Elephantiny, and Three To Beam Up.  In cardboard slipcase.
            LUNA -- 3 Stories (Elektra/Prcd 9241)  Promo-only cd with
     Chinatown, 23 Minutes In Brussels, and Bonnie and Clyde.
            LUSH -- Last Night (4AD/PRO-CD-8034)  Promo-only cd with
     3
     mixes of Last Night, remixes of Undertow and Lovelife, plus the
     Ladykillers demo.
            MEDICINE -- Shot Forth Self Living (Def American/45067)
     Cut-out
     copy of 1992 album with 9 tracks, including 5ive and Aruca.
            MINXUS -- s/t (Too Pure/PURECD-40)  UK ep featuring
     Steal Steal
     Steal, Today I..., and Silk Purse, Slender Means.
            MOJAVE 3 -- Love Songs On the Radio (4AD/PRO-CD-7960)
     Promo
     single with radio edit of title track.
            PETER MURPHY -- Youre So Close (Beggars
     Banquet/BEG-62302)
     Cut-out copy of single with album track, plus live versions of
     Line
     Between the Devils Teeth, Cuts You Up, and All Night Long.
            NEGATIVLAND -- Fair Use: Story of the Letter U and the
     Numeral 2
     (Seeland-013CD)  Promo release version.  72 minutes.  9 songs
     and one
     26-minute spoken word piece.  Radio sampler from CD/book
     release.
            NEW ORDER -- World (The Price of Love) (WB/PRO-CD-6276)
     Promo single with 4 mixes of title track.
            PALE SAINTS -- Angel (Will You Be My) (4AD/PRO-CD-7140)
     Promo
     cd with album version.  CD art different from usual
     promo-orange.
            PALE SAINTS -- Henry (4AD/PRO-CD-7131)  Promo single with
     album versions of Henry and One Blue Hill.
            SCHEER -- Schism ep (4AD/BAD5012)  UK ep in foldout
     digi-pak.
            SPACEMEN 3 -- Big City (RCA/RDJ-2801)  Promo release.  20
     minutes.  4 tracks: Drive, Big City (Waves of Joy) demo, Drive
     (Everybody I Know Can Be Found Here), and Drive (demo).
            STRAITJACKET FITS -- Missing from Melt (Arista/ASCD-2244)
     3 remixes, plus non-album tracks In Spite of It All and Cave In.
            SWELL -- Forget About Jesus ep (American/ARB-4CD)  UK ep.
     Tracks: title (alt. version), Hell No, What I Saw, Forget About
     Dean.
            SWELL -- Room To Think (Def American/PRO-CD-5917)  1993
     Promo ep with At Long Last, Here It Is, Lifes Great, Give, Just
     Get Well.
            SWERVEDRIVER -- Sandblasted ep (Creation/CRESCD102)
     1991 UK
     ep with title track, Flawed, Out, and Laze It Up.  Slightly
     worn slipcase.
            SWERVEDRIVER -- Reel to Real (A&M/75021-2402)  Promo
     copy.
     16  minutes.  4 tracks, three of which are exclusive.
            SWERVEDRIVER -- Never Lose That Feeling
     (Creation/CRESCD120)
     UK ep with NLTF, Scrawl And Scream, Hands, and alt. version of
     NLTF.
            SWERVEDRIVER -- Duel (Creation/CRESCD136)  UK single
     with title
     track, Planes Over the Skyline, and Year of the Girl.
            UNDERWORLD -- Pearls Girl (TVT8739-2P)  Promo-only cd
     single in
     slimline case, with the radio edit, album version, and carp
     dreams remix.
            VARIOUS -- Guernica sampler (GUP-3-CD)  1993 UK promo
     for 4AD.
     3 tracks each from Insides, That Dog, and Spoonfed Hybrid in
     slipcase.
            VARIOUS -- The Winter of Our Discontent (T&N/Volume1)
     Tooth and
     Nail Records 1994 Winter Sampler.  74 minutes.  23 tracks: 2-4
     songs
     each from Star Flyer 59, MxPx, Havalina Moon, and 5 more bands.
            VARIOUS -- Trademark of Quality 1996
     (Reprise/PRO-CD-8370)
     22 track promo-only cd of rarities, like Lush covering an Elvis
     Costello
     song.  Plus rare tracks from Tarnation, Nick Cave, Spectrum,
     Wilco, etc.
            VARIOUS -- Opal: Assembly 1 (PRO-CD-3175)  Promo-only
     release.
     34 minutes.  10 track sampler of Opal recording artists,
     including Hugo
     Largo, Brian Eno, Roger Eno, Harold Budd and Laraaji.  With a
     detailed
     insert booklet.
            VARIOUS -- Too Pure sampler (Too Pure/Rough Trade/RTD121-
     3075)  UK promo sampler with album cuts from Mouse on Mars,
     Laika,
     Long Fin Killie, and Minxus, plus the unreleased demo of
Biograph
     y of a
     First Son by Jack.
            THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- Mamma Told Me Not to Come
     (4AD-40674)
     5 track single with remixes of Mamma Told Me Not to Come and
     Birmingham to Jerusalem.  Slight scuff on Digi-Pak spine.


     ===============
     Vinyl for Sale/Trade
     ===============

            AIR MIAMI -- I Hate Milk (remix)/Afternoon Train Train
     (remix #2)
     (4AD/PRO-S-7823)  Promo-only 7 inch with 2 exclusive remixes.
            ALISONS HALO -- Dozen/Calendar (IPR049)  Promo copy.  2
     track
     7 inch.  Letterpress foldover sleeve.
            TORI AMOS -- Under the Pink (Atlantic/82567)  Special
     limited
     edition pink vinyl LP.  Still in shrink wrap!
            AREA -- Fragments of the Morning (CLM-LP031)  Promo
     copy.  43
     minute LP.  10 tracks on white vinyl.  Slight scuffing on
     sleeve.
            AREA -- The Perfect Dream (CLM-LP006)  Promo copy.  10
     tracks.
            BRIAN -- You Dont Want A Boyfriend (Detzi/DTZ-1)  1991 7
     inch
     featuring title track and Dont Leave Me Behind.
            COCTEAU TWINS -- A Kissed Out Red Floatboat (SPRO-79512)
     Promo 1 track 2-sided 12 inch single.
            TH FAITH HEALERS -- My Loser/Oh Baby (Elektra/ST-E-64666)
     Promo 7 inch welcoming TFH to Elektra in 1992. Transparent blue
     vinyl.
            HALF STRING -- Oval/Sun Less Sea (IPR047/TX002)  Promo
     copy.
     2 track 7 inch.  Limited edition of 1000.  Letterpress foldover
     sleeve.
            HEAVENLY BODIES -- Celestial (CLM-LP010)  Promo copy.  9
     tracks.
            HUMAN HANDS -- s/t (IPR/005) 2nd Edition IPR reissue

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:08:22 -0800
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band


On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Jack Huynh  wrote:
>okay, my friend from london was visiting me and he told me to look out for
>this band. anyone heard of them? i read a good review of them in Magnet,
>but i want to see what this list has to say...

oh GAWD!
don't get me started.
see what i had to say in Alternative Press #99 (September '96).

i've slagged them enough... but they deserve every bit of it.
even i have my limits, though. :)

GuerillaG / gman II

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:38 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie


also...sorcerer....1977...tangerine dream....seminal!
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:42:36 +0100 Frank Brinkhuis 
>>>   the credit for the first movie to have a soundtrack
>>>   based on rock music goes for wim wenders' "wings of
>>>   desire" . ?1990?
>>>   (this is not a personal opinion, just a fact I read
>>>   somewhere..)
>>
>>This statement of fact is suspect.  Was anyone else here alive when
>"Pretty in
>>Pink" (blech!) came out?  Don't believe everything you read.
>
>Indeed! What about 'The Hunger' (1982?) for instance, with Bowie and
>Deneuve
>and a lot of Bauhaus in the soundtrack (and their singer Peter Murphy
>in the
>movie itself).
>
>Or, much older: 'Easy Rider'! From 1969, isn't it?
>
>There are hundreds of movies from before 1990 with a rock soundtrack.
>Wenders himself used Kraftwerk and some other German electronic bands
>for
>'Im Lauf Der Zeit'. That movie was made in 1976 or '77.
>
>Frank
>+++++++++++++++
>Frank Brinkhuis
>frankbri@pi.net
>+++++++++++++++
>

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:05:30 -0500
From: Monica Sather (mm.sather@UTORONTO.CA)
Subject: Re: lamb


>If you like the sounds some people call 'trip hop' you should try the debut
>album by the uk girl-boy-duo 'Lamb'. The cd is also called 'Lamb' and
>released on Mercury Records last week. Ten songs and one hidden track.

I agree, lamb rocks.  I picked it up a few weeks ago (on fontana) and
didn't mention it here because I have been kind of out of it lately and
figured you'd all have it by now!:)  In fact, I remember seeing something
about them on this list a LOOOOOONNNGGGG time ago, and then I was of the
list all summer so I wasn't sure what was up.  ANYWAY....in my opionion
this is a truly original combination.  Louise has a totaly beautiful voice,
and although I am not really into the whole trip-hop/ jungle scene I like
the beats, etc. on this album.  I recommend it highly.  I am really
terrible at reviewing things, so I know this hasn't helped much, sorry!

monica


Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:17:26 EST
From: Jeremy L Orr (j.orr@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD music in Heat


---from lbo:

> I don't know the title [of the Lisa Gerrard track(s) in the movie],
even if I listen to this
> album relatively often, anyway it is played in a scene where Al Pacino
walk through a
> room with some scattered dead bodies, and is the only 4AD piece, if I'm
not wrong.

Um, no offense, but trust us, you are.  I rented that movie twice, and
even though I couldn't make it all the way through either time (*yawn*),
I remember hearing at least two Michael Brook songs.  I wouldn't know
about the Gerrard tracks, aside from probably recognizing her voice if
I'd been awake during the scene...

---Jeremy 

...who is still laughing at that Reba McEntire/Fritos quote...

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:34:32 -0000
From: edith plascencia (galaxie500@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: cancel


anybody there?

this list is driving me mad, i cannot receive any mail anymore, how do i
unsusbscribe?, i know you warned me to keep the notice of my subscription, but
it got deleted since i had so much mail because of this list. PLEASE HELP
ME!!!!!

thanks,









edith plascencia
galaxie500@hotmail.com

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:00:43 -0500
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: the 500 mark


> i think id like to know what exactly anyone knows about rosewater elizabeth..
> i heard of them because a friend of mine is from tampa, and sent me a tape
> of theirs 3 or 4 years ago.. he said "they're a local band.. you might like
> them..."  and boy did i..  how did the rest of the world hear of them?
>

        A friend lend me a cd from Rosewater Elizabeth about a month
ago, i can't remember the name of that cd though -the cover was blue
and there was a girl underwater- i like it, the influences i see on
them are dead can dance, cocteau twins and enya, some songs are great
and some others are not so fine. Good but not so mindblowing, at
least it was my impression.
        Do they have anything else?

        Regards.

                Wilder.

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:28 -0800
From: Dan Shubin (dans@europa.com)
Subject: On Ian Curtis by the guy who hates the Breeders/Paladins


A statement by the guy who started the 'out-of-tune' controversy so I
can defuse this thread and hopefully stop seeing useless posts:

Joy Division with Ian Curtis on vocals, was THE most important link
between punk and the new wave movement and is THE progenerator of the
music all us 'scary dark death dorks' (a little joke...) talk about on
this list.  Ian was not out of tune, he was Ian.  "Love Will Tear Us
Apart", esp the fast version, is THE single reason all of you are on
this list talking today, whether you understand the history or not.
Also thank the Velvets, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Siouxsie and, BION,
Genesis of the late 70s early 80s.
Now wake up and go create something interesting like Scala, AMP or
Scenic.  And study computer science and electrical engineering--we're
running out of NCS and AEs!
Thank you for your time.  dans

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:06:16 -0800
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band


On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, lorelei tremolor  wrote:

>jack are new on too pure, they have one album out and an ep that has great
>song on it called "wintercomessummer" that kind of reminds me of the fall-
>it's got mark e. smith-esque speaking during the verse and then some
>smithy (as in the smiths) la las for the chorus.

try ***FOUR*** EPs:

Kid Stardust/I Didn't Mean It Marie (7" only - PURE49)

Wintercomessummer (PURE52)
 Hey!... Josephine
 I Was Drunk in the Underworld

White Jazz (PURE53)
 The Ballad of Misery and Heaven
 Ballad for a Beautiful Blonde Eye
 ?

Biography of a First Son (PURE59)
 For Luna
 The Seventh Day
 Kid Stardust



>at times they remind me of moose- hence the band name... at other times i
>think they get kind of cheesy...

MOOSE?!

i just realized that many might not have seen AP#99... so here's my review:

JACK
Pioneer Soundtracks

You are Jack. So many of your fellow British bands want to be romantic glampunk
mods or Beatles, so you decide to fall back on more esoteric influences. You
dust off a Walker Brothers album, dig out your Echo and the Bunnymen LPs, and
cock an ear to what the Tindersticks are doing. A smash single results,
catapulting you into the Next Big Thing limelight. Dispirited critics are
delighted to hear someone worshipping at the shrines of Saints McCullough and
Engel instead of at those of Saints Lennon and McCartney. They shower your
pedestrian efforts with ludicrous accolades, and you find yourself signed to
once-hot-as-a-griddlecake indie, Too Pure Records. Somehow you've roped
legendary producer, Peter Walsh, into shaping your pretentious drivel and
recruited a miniature chamber-orchestra of strings and keyboards. You release a
series of lackluster EPs, regurgitating the same tired ideas over and over. The
time for your debut album arrives, and you still haven't had another idea to
equal your initial 45rpm paean to Charles "Kid Stardust" Bukowski. You distract
attention from your maudlin lyrics and suspiciously Cave-ornous talk-singing by
smothering your inispid songs in schmaltzy violins and besotted histrionics.
Your second memorable moment, the hedonist anthem, "Wintercomessummer," is
crushed under eight exercises in empty dramatic posturing. Critics wise up to
your charade and realize what it is that Scott Walker/Engel has and that you
woefully lack: Talent. (Too Pure/American) [1] <--- outta '5', folks.

go and find  Scott Walker's flawed but INFINITELY better _Til The Band Comes In_
instead. MOOSE ?!?!?! bite yr tongue!

GuerillaG / gman II

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:14:58 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ian Curtis


>CAN SOMEONE SEND INFO ON HOW I CAN GET UNSUBSCRIBED FROM THIS
>GROUP?? 4AD-L ??? THANK YOU....

No, you *MUST* look it up via a search engine, like I did to obtain the
digest version...you lazy shite of a turkey roast that was over cooked in
an electric oven.

Fred


Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:33:03 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: new luna EP


>>season of the witch, as most of you probably know, is a cover, and
>>i can thus feel comfortable that luna are not stealing riffs from tracy
>>chapman, but that she is stealing them from donovan leitch (this joke, of
>>course, is lost on anyone not familiar with this song -- having alienated
>>half the list, i continue...)

>Well, okay...SOTW is by Donovan (Donovan Leitch's dad), so I'm with you so
>far - where does Tracy Chapman fit into this?

tc had a big hit single (one of those ones from which you cannot escape)
earlier this summer, and the guitar intro to that song is identical to the
intro to season of the witch.

BiZ


Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:51:31 +0100
From: Kjetil Kristiansen (Kjetil.Kristiansen@IDT.NTNU.NO)
Subject: Stina Nordenstam - Dynamite


Bought Dynamite, the new Stina Nordenstam album, over a week ago.
Some other guy already posted a review, but there's always
room for an additional view isn't it?

The main difference between Dynamite, and Stina's 2 earlier albums is
that she has taken up playing the guitar. Her guitar climpering
is practically everywhere on the album. In addition there are some
string arrangements here and there.
This more or less makes up the soundscape on the album.
It's not as diverse as on her earlier albums, which I think is a
bit strange, as the 10 songs were recorded in no less than 5 different
locations.

Her guitar playing is neither good nor bad I guess. It's very sparse,
almost an ambient feeling to it (so don't expect any AC/DC riffs:-).
There are some weird and shrill sounds on it, though.
It's very little percussion on it, few jazz arrangements, but it's
more ambient and quiet.

The Stina Nordenstam "feeling" is still  there though; perfect for
sitting inside sipping tea, while the rain is pouring outside, and the
leaves are falling off the trees.
Her lyrics are still intact too. I think she has an exceptional talent,
of telling a whole story with only a few lines in her songs, but still
leave room for secrets and wondering.
She describes it best herself in "CQD":
"I finally fell in that black hole, between your sentences"

It seems like Stina has become a meaner Stina Nordenstam on "Dynamite".
The lyrics have several references to darkness, murder and killing.
The picture of Stina on the back of the CD, also hints that she claims
to get rid of the "nice little girl" image she might have got trapped in(?)
Either that, or she has been listening too much on Nick Cave's "Murder
Ballads". ;-)

The final verdict then:
I think I will play this record a lot. Her previous albums set ridiculously
high standards, though. And I prefer those albums to
"Dynamite". Although songs like the ending track, "Now that you're leaving",
and the title track, "Dynamite", is easily up there among here best
efforts. That said I think it's an album that may grow on me,
and anyhow it is much better than most music being released these days.

-kJeTiL


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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:53:37 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other

              Oct 29, 96 11:37:22 pm

 Dave Sargent  wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 1996
 (Subject: this, that, and the other)
 >
 > 1.i've been searching everywhere for the new galaxie 500 box set.
 > i heard that it was limited to 1000 copies.  can anyone possibly
 > explain the logic in reissuing something in a limited edition like
 > that? i thought rykodisc had deeper pockets.

 They apparently pressed 10000 copies (or something similar), and have
 sold out - they didn't realise how many people were going to buy the
 things.  The box wasn't meant to be limited, and they are supposed to
 be making more, though there's a rumour going round that they can't
 find the master tapes any more.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:09:27 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: JACK -- the band

              "lorelei tremolor" at Nov 5, 96 00:12:25 am

 lorelei tremolor  wrote on Tue, 5 Nov 1996
 (Subject: Re: JACK -- the band)
 > jack are new on too pure, they have one album out and an ep that
 > has great song on it called "wintercomessummer" that kind of
 > reminds me of the fall- it's got mark e.  smith-esque speaking
 > during the verse and then some smithy (as in the smiths) la las for
 > the chorus.
 >
 > at times they remind me of moose- hence the band name...  at other
 > times i think they get kind of cheesy...

 The Blue Aeroplanes, but Welsh and not half as good - or so I thought
 till I bought the album.  There's a lush, romantic, melodic side to
 Jack which the Aeroplanes don't have, and Anthony Reynolds can sing
 pretty well (unlike Gerard Langley).  Produced mainly by Peter Walsh,
 who has been responsible for Scott Walker's last couple of albums,
 and there are definite echoes of early SW - the glamourising of seedy
 twilight life, the overblown orchestrated bits which stay just on the
 right side of camp.  There have been four singles - "Kid Stardust"
 sold out on 7" only in the week of release (but both songs were on
 later releases too), and "Wintercomessummer", "White Jazz" and
 "Biography of a First Son" all have non-album songs.  I'm not at all
 sure about the Fall comparison - "Wintercomessummer" is Jack's most
 blatant Blue Aeroplanes rip-off, even down to the declaiming poetic
 style.  And like Langley, Reynolds is a pretentious idiot who talks a
 load of bollocks, but fronts a great band.

 Talking of Scott Walker, his fifth solo album "Til the Band Comes In"
 has been rereleased on CD in the UK in the last month or so, and is
 (mostly) superb - a suite of songs describing the inhabitants of a
 shabby boarding house, plus four or five dodgy covers (and one good
 one, "It's Over").  I had heard some of this album on the "Boy Child"
 compilation, and the rest of his self-penned numbers are every bit as
 good.  Some American company has just released a compilation taken
 from those five solo albums, see www.razorandtie.com for details.  If
 you like Julian Cope's early stuff (great new album, but he's firmly
 into hippy-kraut-pop nowadays), Marc Almond or (from what little I have
 heard) Brendan-from-Dead-Can-Dance's solo songs, you really should
 investigate Scott Walker - start with the early stuff though, not
 "Tilt" or "Climate of Hunter".

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:40:13 EST
From: Princess Coldheart (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other


>  Dave Sargent  wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 1996
>  (Subject: this, that, and the other)
>  >
>  > 1.i've been searching everywhere for the new galaxie 500 box set.
>  > i heard that it was limited to 1000 copies.  can anyone possibly
>  > explain the logic in reissuing something in a limited edition like
>  > that? i thought rykodisc had deeper pockets.
>
>  They apparently pressed 10000 copies (or something similar), and have
>  sold out - they didn't realise how many people were going to buy the
>  things.  The box wasn't meant to be limited, and they are supposed to
>  be making more, though there's a rumour going round that they can't
>  find the master tapes any more.

if yr still looking, you might want to try (calling or going, depending on
where you are in the world) Other Music in New York City...  they still have a s
gn on the door that says "Galaxie 500 box set available here"..

-=robn


Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:45:07 -0400
From: me (jab4@STERN.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other


If you don't get me off this fuckin' list I'm voting for Dole
I'm not fuckin' kidding
I'm serious
I'll do it

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:59:31 -0500
From: John Porter (jporter@SHIRE.BTG.COM)
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll in movies

              Hull" at Nov 4, 96 01:33:52 pm

hull@tamu.edu wrote:
> I seem to remember hearing that one of the first movies to use popular
> music in its soundtrack was "The Graduate" (1967), with all those Simon
> and Garfunkel tunes.  I'm not sure if this is true either, though.

Let's not get too far off track here.  We're talking about using
rock and roll in movies, not popular music.  Movies have been using
popular music since the very beginning.  Remember "The Jazz Singer"?

As for rock and roll, did Elvis make a ton of movies, or didn't he?

John Porter
jporter@btg.com


Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:21:44 -0500
From: Tym Rourke (trourke@LESLEY.EDU) looking for anyone who may be have in their possession a copy of the 13 year itch. Willing to sell? or tape? let me know.

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:13:07 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: list admin


<<<<

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:37:53 EST
From: Princess Coldheart (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other


> If you don't get me off this fuckin' list I'm voting for Dole
> I'm not fuckin' kidding
> I'm serious
> I'll do it
>

NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont let it happen.
please.
someone help this nice chap...

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:53:53 PST
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie


>>   the credit for the first movie to have a soundtrack
>>   based on rock music goes for wim wenders' "wings of
>>   desire" . ?1990?

>This statement of fact is suspect.

 you're probably right. and I probably should have verified my facts
before posting . sorry.

>Was anyone else here alive when "Pretty in Pink" (blech!) came out?

tough question. you'll have to define the essence of being alive, as well
as give the year of release for said movie.

>Don't believe everything you read.

I don't believe *anything* I read , or see , or hear, or feel. just a
matter of philosophical prudence.

-naor-

Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:02:14 +0000
From: Matt/Summer Holiday (mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu)
Subject: Re: Kelley Deal & co.


Kelley's band is called "The Kelley Deal 6000."

She is currently living in Saint Paul,MN on Grand Avenue... Right across
the river from Minneapolis.
Why?  She formed her band DUring and following her Drug Rehabilitation
program at Hazelden in Minnesota.  I'm not sure if she'll be rejoining
the Breeders but her band is really cool.  How do I know all this?  I
used to serve her coffee every afternoon at a coffeeshop just down the
street from where she lives.  Very nice woman...

-matt