Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 25 Oct 1996 to 26 Oct 1996
Subject: fakers vs. fretwankers
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 26 Oct 1996 to 27 Oct 1996
Subject: Re: Pale Saints.... need info
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: fakers vs. fretwankers
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 25 Oct 1996 to 26 Oct 1996
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Barging into the Presence of God
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:09:08 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-02 21:34:24 EST, you write:
<< yesterday a friend of mine was watching a video cassette with a movie
which
title in italian is "La sfida", the original title should have been "Hot
rage" or fear or something. to cut it short: Al Pacino is the good but
controversial super-cop and Robert De Niro is the evil but reliable bad guy
and they spent the time chasing each other.
>>
Yeah, the music is Heat and Lisa Gerrard actually has two songs on it.
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:24:46 -0500
And so quoth Aaron Hill at 11.09 PM 11.02.96:
><< yesterday a friend of mine was watching a video cassette with a movie
>which
> title in italian is "La sfida", the original title should have been "Hot
> rage" or fear or something. to cut it short: Al Pacino is the good but
> controversial super-cop and Robert De Niro is the evil but reliable bad guy
> and they spent the time chasing each other.
> >>
>Yeah, the music is Heat and Lisa Gerrard actually has two songs on it.
>
and Michael Brook, god of oceanic guitar, has at least one song on it.
I hadn't noticed the Gerrard songs because though I have the album and I
like it, I havn't played it ver much.
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:45:27 -0500
At 02:18 AM 11/3/96 +0100, lbo wrote:
>yesterday a friend of mine was watching a video cassette with a movie which
>title in italian is "La sfida", the original title should have been "Hot
>rage" or fear or something. to cut it short: Al Pacino is the good but
>controversial super-cop and Robert De Niro is the evil but reliable bad guy
>and they spent the time chasing each other.
The English release title is simply "Heat". Pacino, De Niro, Kilmer.
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:21:30 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-01 01:56:08 EST, you write:
<< Anyone agree that we ought to have an increased focus here on the
"ethereal"
sort of music that isn't talked about much on pure-impure? After all 4AD
did
pioneer the sound and we might have a critical mass of DCD, CT, HNIA, This
Mortal Coil fans here. There's plenty of new music in this vein that
deserves a
place here but seems to not quite fit in on the pure/impure list: Love is
Colder than Death, Love Spirals Downwards, Rosewater Elizabeth, Velour, Bel
Canto, Hector Zazou, etc.
>>
I disagree.
To suggest that this becomes an increased focus is to decrease the strength
of 4ad's quality all around. I am a BIG fan of the etherial stuff in and and
out of 4ad, but I love the non-etherial stuff. For example, I think Lisa
Germano, Heidi Berry, Belly, etc. are as great and I want to know about
similar sounding bands and other information. Tarnation is to me is one of
the greatest 4ad bands ever, up there with CT and DCD, and I want to hear
about bands that may sound similar. So lets talk about everything. If I
don't want to read something, I have a delete button.
E. A.
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:07:21 +0000
A load of boring tripe from an ignorant sod!
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Some thoughtful and well educated chap wrote:
> Anyone agree that we ought to have an increased focus here on the
> "ethereal" sort of music that isn't talked about much on pure-
> impure? After all 4AD did pioneer the sound and we might have a
> critical mass of DCD, CT, HNIA, This Mortal Coil fans here. There's
> plenty of new music in this vein that deserves a place here but
> seems to not quite fit in on the pure/impure list: Love is Colder
> than Death, Love Spirals Downwards, Rosewater Elizabeth, Velour, Bel
> Canto, Hector Zazou, etc.
Some boring sod replies:
I would very much appreciate that. I don't expect that my opinion
will carry much weight among fans of 4AD's modern artists however I
joined this list primarily out of interest in the aforementioned
bands and I am sure there are others out there who still take
bands like This Mortal Coil, Dead Can Dance and Cocteau Twins to
epitomise 4AD. I speak from a position of relative ignorance but
I would consider many of 4AD's modern artists not fit to lick the
bottoms of those bands connected to the likes of early 4AD by merit of
their ethereal nature (Eden/ Love Spirals Downwards/ My Bloody
Valentine/ Slowdive/ Miranda Sex Garden). At the very least I
would gratefully accept the addresses of any known lists in this vein
(does anyone know the wherabouts of the Projekt mailing list?).
May I also ask... what is pure/impure? Some radical group of
revolutionaries who fought against the odds to violently seceeded from
4AD-L and bring justice and peace into their lives once more? Sounds
exciting!
Thank you very much!
un-noticed if all you lovely individuals were not so loose with your
band name abbreviations. Forgive me if I seem to be prematurely
anticipating a positive response to this request but thank you in
advance.
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:49:53 PST
>Perhaps. I don't think it's that unusual for rock music in general to
>be used in movies --
the credit for the first movie to have a soundtrack based on rock music
goes for wim wenders' "wings of desire" . ?1990?
(this is not a personal opinion, just a fact I read somewhere..)
-naor-
"a few good jokes lost in a sea of obscenity and boredom"
(an eloquent definition of life taken, completely out of context,
from the movie review section.)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:35:35 +0000
This is unsolicited email.
I did not ask for you to include me on your mailing list and niether do I
wish to be a recipitant of your course and volgar language. I sugest that
you keep your silly ideas to your own side and the Atlantic and leave me
out of them.
If you could tell me who gave you my email address, I will deal with them
in a similar way!
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> There are 16 messages totalling 556 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. apology? maybe, maybe not (3)
> 2. greeting (2)
> 3. we wanna lilt and sway all night and cry and write poetry every day
> 4. Music For Vampires: A Delicate Dependency (2)
> 5. apology? maybe, maybe not
> 6. [Fwd: THE CHANGELINGS upcoming..]
> 7. Un-subcribe me, please (2)
> 8. The Moon Seven Times (2)
> 9. nature of the troll (was: NOT an apology)
> 10. Yankees Win!!!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:55:02 -0400
> From: Music Man
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:22:42 -0500
>>I have to express an opinion about the Breeders and the Paladins. The
>>Breeders IMHO are one of the worst bands signed to major distribution.
>>They are unoriginal, out-of-tune and don't seem to have anything to
>>say. Now, am I missing something or are Breeders fans under some
>>hypnotic spell because 4AD signed them?...
>
>>...But there is a distinction between 'musicians' and
>>people in bands that can hold up their instruments but not play them.
>>We used to call them poseurs and before that word, we just said
>>'fakes'. What's the deal? The Breeders and The Paladins are 'fakes'.
I suppose you only like "musician's musicians" - people who can play
anything and are so keen to impress people with their virtuosity that they
forget to come up with something with any honesty or emotion to it.
Too many notes, my dear Yngwie, too many notes.
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:14:37 +0000
As I said in my earlier email, I do not wish to be on your mailing list.
If you continue to pester me with your unsolicited mails then I will have
t consider legal action>
Stuart
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> There are 28 messages totalling 797 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. we wanna lilt and sway all night and cry and write poetry every day
> 2. nature of the troll (was: NOT an apology)
> 3. KISS my bum (Lush) - Lababrador or something (3)
> 4. Breathless/Mercury Rev
> 5. : apology? maybe maybe not
> 6. A Delicate Dependency : Music for Vampires
> 7. Lababrador or something (2)
> 8. Breeders/Icelanders/REM
> 9. "Music For Vampires" web site
> 10. Breathless
> 11. David Jay, Music for Vampires trivia
> 12. * laBRADford ! ! !* re: Lababrador or something
> 13. the moon seven times
> 14. apology? maybe, maybe not
> 15. Weddoes
> 16. Cocteau Twins site up?
> 17. Unsubscribe me!!!! (3)
> 18. Greeting (2)
> 19. Gene Simmons on 4AD!?
> 20. here I go again!
> 21. KISS my bum (Lush) - Lababrador or something
> 22. How to use this list
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:15:58 -0400
> From: Music Man
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:52:23 -0500
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, .mark. wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, John Doe wrote:
>
> > I think it was Comforts of Madness... or something like that.... ???
>
> "comforts of madness" is a fine release, but you're likely to have trouble
> finding it. i've no idea why, but the only pale saints i ever see is "in
> ribbons"
im almost positive that it went out of print last year; around
this time actually...
its pretty good but not on the whole like in ribbons is.
---> [spiral]
[email protected]
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:54:24 +0600
14:49:53 PST
> the credit for the first movie to have a soundtrack
> based on rock music goes for wim wenders' "wings of
> desire" . ?1990?
> (this is not a personal opinion, just a fact I read
> somewhere..)
This statement of fact is suspect. Was anyone else here alive when "Pretty in
Pink" (blech!) came out? Don't believe everything you read.
-cz
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:41:10 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-03 10:48:28 EST, you write:
<< >I have to express an opinion about the Breeders and the Paladins. The
>>Breeders IMHO are one of the worst bands signed to major distribution.
>>They are unoriginal, out-of-tune and don't seem to have anything to
>>say. Now, am I missing something or are Breeders fans under some
>>hypnotic spell because 4AD signed them?...
>
>>...But there is a distinction between 'musicians' and
>>people in bands that can hold up their instruments but not play them.
>>We used to call them poseurs and before that word, we just said
>>'fakes'. What's the deal? The Breeders and The Paladins are 'fakes'.
>>
I don't care for the Paladins and think 4ad shouldn
t have signed them but that is my opinion. I just don't think they work for
any 4ad fan. But I think the Breeders are great!!!! For one, Kim Deal
started out in the Pixies ( a great 4ad band). Second, they are extremely
original (especially the first album--take a listen). Third, Alternative
Press put Pod in the top 100 of alternative albums. Why does ot bother
anyone when someone sings out of tune? Alternative music is largely out of
tune. Do you like Joy Division? Ian Curtis was Horribly out of tune but it
works great. Don't like Breeders (maybe you think they are too popular?) but
as for me, I think they make a nice niche in 4ad's music.
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:21:59 +0000
> Sure, it's always easy to heap epithets on others you don't agree with. Is yo
r
> message any less boring?
Erm... goodness me!! I am terribly sorry mr/mrs/miss cz. I really had
no intention of being inflamatory in any way and I think that there
has been a general misunderstainding which may turn out to be to the
detriment of both the good spirit of the list and of my reputation as a
generally nice and thoughtful individual. The heading "a load of
tripe from a boring sod" was actually my own little attempt at self
deprecation, that aforesaid boring sod being me and that
aforementioned load of tripe being my comments on what I though was a
considered and well intentioned proposition. You may have
interpereted some sarcasm into my manner but I can assure you that I
hold the genuine belief that I have very little to contribute to the
list (or to society in general) in the way of knowledge, humour or ideas
and only chose to respond to this "ethereal" thread out of the desire
to show my support for increased discussion on this list of more
music which I hold to be particularily dear to my heart. I did
consider the danger of mis-interpretation of my formatting and as a
consequence chose to comment those statements attributed to one cz
with some qualifier in favour of the sentiments expressed therein (ie
"educated and well-informed")
In future you can trust me to stay out of you affairs and just sit in the
background soaking in the atmosphere like the great spineless,
spongy, gelatinous substance that I am.
- Some weird little fellow who it would be wise to steer clear of in
future
PS It wasn't any of the more obvious abbreviations which concerned
me but the name of one particular band that was given a three letter
acronym (starting with "B" I think) alluded me. I don't care much for
the answer anymore after this little episode but thank you for your
helpfulness in spite of this misunderstanding.
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:43:00 +0100
Stuart Adamson wrote:
>This is unsolicited email.
>I did not ask for you to include me on your mailing list and niether do I
>wish to be a recipitant of your course and volgar language. I sugest that
>you keep your silly ideas to your own side and the Atlantic and leave me
>out of them.
>
>If you could tell me who gave you my email address, I will deal with them
>in a similar way!
Stuart Adamson.... aren't you the guy who used to be in the Skids and later
had a band called Big Country?
Hi Stuart!
Frank
(still a Skids fan)
+++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
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