Subject: Re: stone roses
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: Dead Can Dance
Subject: Re: the 500 mark
Subject: rosewater elizabeth..
Subject: Re: Breeders hypnosis
Subject: Rene Halket/David Jay on CD
Subject: 4AD: THE SITE new launch date
Subject: Tanya Donnelly
Subject: new Luna EP
Subject: Hooray!!!!
Subject: Kelley Deal & co.
Subject: Lisa Gerrard music in cop'n'killer movie
Subject: Re: Knockout Pill
Subject: Re: FSOL
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:14:30 EST
>
> On another note the Stone Roses split up on Wed. 30 Oct.
> Mani has joined Primal Scream and the others will work together
> probably under a different name. Thought it may be of general
> interest to people who haven't heard.
>
which version of the roses are you talking about?
reni was thrown out many months ago, and john squire soon left due
to reni's departure. ian and mani recruited some other
people and were going to continue as the stone roses. john and reni
(the talent of the roses)are supposed to be doing work together, the
last i heard. i can't believe they kept their popularity... after waiting
six years for their second album which completely sucked.
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:51:42 EST
> Anyone agree that we ought to have an increased focus here on the
> "ethereal"
> sort of music that isn't talked about much on pure-impure? After all 4AD did
> pioneer the sound and we might have a critical mass of DCD, CT, HNIA, This
> Mortal Coil fans here. There's plenty of new music in this vein that deserves
a
> place here but seems to not quite fit in on the pure/impure list: Love is
> Colder than Death, Love Spirals Downwards, Rosewater Elizabeth, Velour, Bel
> Canto, Hector Zazou, etc.
Yes, I agree. I suppose that I don't hear as much as I'd like to
about this type of music on this list (my own fault for not bringing
it up) but I would guess that many of us here are fans of the above
mentioned bands and their like. Rosewater Elizabeth's album "Le Petit
Morte" for example is startlingly good and unique (wow!); someone
mentioned them once on this list about five months ago, and I'm
forever grateful. SO, fans of this sort of stuff: come out of lurking
if you feel so inclined and fill us in! BTW, someone mentioned (I
think it was lars) that Bel Canto has a new disc of sorts; a
collaboration with Eastern musicians...what was it called? thanks in
advance.
brian
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:42:31 EST
>Anyone agree that we ought to have an increased focus here on the "ethereal"
>sort of music that isn't talked about much on pure-impure? After all 4AD did
>pioneer the sound and we might have a critical mass of DCD, CT, HNIA, This
>Mortal Coil fans here. There's plenty of new music in this vein that deserves
a
>place here but seems to not quite fit in on the pure/impure list: Love is
>Colder than Death, Love Spirals Downwards, Rosewater Elizabeth, Velour, Bel
>Canto, Hector Zazou, etc.
>So, what do ya think?
>-cz
In a word no. Why? Because this kind of stuff has little to do with what 4AD is
about, or has been about for the whole of the nineties, and this is the 4AD list
after all. With the exception of Dead Can Dance (who appear to be moving away
from their proto-goth leanings these days anyway), there's nothing like this
stuff on the label, so why should the mailing list be dominated by it? The whole
point of this list is to discuss 4AD-related topics. Pure-Impure gave those of
us who wanted to discuss the post-rock/techno/jungle/hip hop spectrum a
platform, and stop us posting stuff unrelated to 4AD to a largely disinterested
audience. Maybe you ethereal types should start something in a similar vein
rather than try and steer this list in a direction that isn't really relevant to
it. Otherwise someone will need to set up a spin-off list from this one to
discuss 4AD-related stuff, which is plainly ridiculous.
- Dez
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:29:50 EDT
Hi. I just subscribed to the list because I like the music of "Dead Can
Dance" and thought maybe I could learn a little more about them on here. I
have most of their albums but there's a couple or so I can't find.
--Stephen.
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:36:58 EST
On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:45:28 -0700 cz
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:26:30 -0800
Greetings,
Great stuff! a close comparison would be This Mortal Coil (?) others may
find better comparisons agreed... More info can be found at
a cool guy with musical tastes that match this list well. Definitely
worth checking out!
V K
"average minds speak of people
good minds speak of events
great minds speak of ideas"
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:28:24 -0600
Dan Shubin wrote:
>Hi--
>I have to express an opinion about the Breeders and the Paladins. The
>Breeders IMHO are one of the worst bands signed to major distribution.
>They are unoriginal, out-of-tune and don't seem to have anything to
>say. Now, am I missing something or are Breeders fans under some
>hypnotic spell because 4AD signed them?...
>...But there is a distinction between 'musicians' and
>people in bands that can hold up their instruments but not play them.
>We used to call them poseurs and before that word, we just said
>'fakes'. What's the deal? The Breeders and The Paladins are 'fakes'.
>
the Deal (according to me):
1. ATTITUDE
You ask what's the deal, I would say that Kim and her ego are most of the
Deal.
2. HISTORY
I've not just stumbled upon the Breeders. I first bought the breeders
because of Kim Deal and Tanya Donnelly being members of other bands that I
had already liked--Pixies and Throwing Muses, of course. The breeders could
have signed to ANY label and I would have bought it.
3. KIM AS POET
I also like the Breeders/Kim Deal because of the lyrics. You say they don't
seem to have anything to say but are you listening? "Motherhood means
mental freeze" from No Aloha says so much on so many levels. It's feminist,
comical, poetic and quite meaningful.
4. THE MUSIC
I like the music too. It's enjoyable, unconventional pop music. The
breeders can most definitely hold their own on their instruments. Someone
else mentioned that if you saw them live you might think differently, I
agree.
My point is, it's not just the music--there are other factors as well. Get
it? Oh well, if you don't then maybe the breeders aren't for you and you
should look elsewhere for aural gratification.
(and I don't like the breeders JUST because of Kim Deal because i really
don't get the Amps at all i think it's a waste of money but that's my opinion)
Lysa
who just won the 'head to toe' thing-a-ma-jig
yippee! for me -- proof that LOOSERS sometimes do win ;)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:27:58 -0800
MUSIC FOR VAMPIRES
The perfect soundtrack to an evening -- or morning -- or LIFE -- in
black. Red wine. Sadness mixed with joy. Y'see, there are these two
longtime goths who work in our marketing department (hello Steve and
Livia!) who've spent years coming up with the perfect collection -- and
here it is. Only for sale in -- Canada. Pity. Dead Can Dance,
Cocteau Twins and Bauhaus, along with classical excerpts and rare tracks
from Peter Murphy, Pieter Nooten/Michael Brook and for the first time on
CD, David J./Rene Halkett collaboration "Nothing". In a mystery best
solved by the devout listener, there are also two bonus tracks... see
our special Vampires web page at:
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:24:52 -0800
Look what I found (on the home page of The Site):
new server. Our thanks and apologies go out to all who have accessed the
site recently and have been disappointed by the lack of new content, our
thanks also go out to the people at IUMA and John Hughes.
The new site will be officially launched on January 1, 1997 but individual
artists' sites will become accessable, as they are completed, prior to that
date.
The URL will remain; http://www.4AD.com/
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
{ceci n'est pas une web site}
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:44:27 EST
Tanya Donnelly - Human / Bum (12" Promo T1)
I got this promo of two tracks from 'Sliding and Diving', the forthcoming TD ep,
today. 'Human' is pretty disappointing. It's just a bog-standard alternative
rock track of the kind that you might find buried on the b side of a Belly
single. There's a tune, but it's really predictable stuff. 'Bum' is different.
It has strangely treated vocals, and a buzzsaw guitar. It's quite shrill, abrupt
and certainly not commercial. It's not brilliant, but it's promising, and it
doesn't sound like Belly which is a good thing. (not that I've got anything
against Belly, but to split a band and then make records that sound the same is
pretty pointless). The choice of 'Human' as a first track, though, is bizarre.
Either it indicates that the new material is really weak, or that it's defiantly
un-pop and that this song is the easiest entry point. I really hope that the
latter scenario is the case.
- Dez
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:36:15 -0500
>season of the witch, as most of you probably know, is a cover, and
>i can thus feel comfortable that luna are not stealing riffs from tracy
>chapman, but that she is stealing them from donovan leitch (this joke, of
>course, is lost on anyone not familiar with this song -- having alienated
>half the list, i continue...)
Well, okay...SOTW is by Donovan (Donovan Leitch's dad), so I'm with you so
far - where does Tracy Chapman fit into this?
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:11:37 -0500
Red House Painters are playing in Boston again!!!!!!!!
At Mama Kin on Dec 1 w/ HNIA
Hopefully the cops won't cut their set short like the last time RHP
played there!!!!
-matt
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:35:43 -0600
sorry if someone's already posted this. FYI:
Ousted SMASHING PUMPKINS drummer JIMMY CHAMBERLIN has joined
fellow recovering drug addict KELLEY DEAL in a new group. Ex-BREEDERS
star Deal,
Chamberlin, SKID ROW singer SEBASTIAN BACH and keyboard player JIMMY
FLEMION of THE FROGS have formed THE LAST HARD MEN. They have recorded
a cover of ALICE COOPER's SCHOOL'S OUT for SCREAM, the latest horror
film by
director WES CRAVEN. Over a four-day session, the four rockers recorded
12 songs, including PEGGY LEE's I ENJOY BEING A GIRL and THE SCORPIONS'
SPIDER. Deal says, "We're like the freaks of rock. Me and Chamberlin
both kicked out of bands, Sebastian is this weird metal dude, and
Flemion is just plain odd. Too bad the name MISFITS was already taken."
oteran
[email protected]
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"I know what I like, and I like Fritos"
Reba McEntire
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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 02:18:30 +0100
hello all
yesterday a friend of mine was watching a video cassette with a movie which
title in italian is "La sfida", the original title should have been "Hot
rage" or fear or something. to cut it short: Al Pacino is the good but
controversial super-cop and Robert De Niro is the evil but reliable bad guy
and they spent the time chasing each other.
the strange thing is the musical track (or how do you call the music that
goes on with the movie): a lot of Opal, Brian Eno, and... Lisa Gerrard, a
piece from "The Mirror Pool", nothing new.
anyway it was astonishing. I hate tv and movies so I'm not up to date, but
is this a new trend to do the music track of a movie?
Maybe it's a lot cheaper to pay rights than to have musician compose and
perform new music?