Subject: Re: labradford & Carnegie Visors
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!
Subject: Lamb
Subject: Re: Virginia Astley
Subject: THIS IS ONLY A TEST... NO NEED TO READ
Subject: this, that, and the other
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!
Subject: Re: labradford & Carnegie Visors
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors
Subject: airing Labradford's dirty secrets
Subject: Re: question about pale saints...
Subject: Anchorage...
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 3 Winner Notice
Subject: Anchorage Info...
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors
Subject: Re: labradford & Carnegie Visors
Subject: The pure-impure list (re-announcement)
Subject: Re: Gus Gus
Subject: why is it an import???
Subject: Re: Virginia Astley
Subject: Re: this, that, and the other
Subject: Pale Saints.... need info
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:41:42 -0600
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> i'm confused (and a bit drunk) but isn't it
> 'carnage visors"?, as in dead stuff?
>
You are correct. It is Carnage Visors, not Carnegie Visors or any such
thing.
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:59:35 EST
Dear Loose Loser,
Fuck you and the magic carpet that you rode in on. What business
is it of yours if I subscribed or not. The only thing that matters right
now is that I want the fuck off of any mailing list that may include
anyone as anal retentive as yourself. Please do not bother me or clutter
up my mailbox with your assinine comments, you triple doggy dick hormone.
Fuck you very much...Spot
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:05:24 +0200
If you like the sounds some people call 'trip hop' you should try the debut
album by the uk girl-boy-duo 'Lamb'. The cd is also called 'Lamb' and
released on Mercury Records last week. Ten songs and one hidden track.
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, October 29, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:11:30 -0800
> Can anyone tell me a little about Virginia Astley? and why is her
> music so hard to find?
All of her material is out of print except in Japan.
I've posted a complete discography on here from time to time,
and I'll forward it to anyone who wants it.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:35:53 EST
sorry guys.
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:37:22 -0500
whew! no better a catalyst for discussion than a flame war, eh?
1.i've been searching everywhere for the new galaxie 500 box set. i heard that
it was limited to 1000 copies. can anyone possibly explain the logic in
reissuing something in a limited edition like that? i thought rykodisc had
deeper pockets.
2.what is the cat. no. for the new gus gus ep? i can't bear to look for it in
the records stores i'm resigned to shopping around here (rural maryland). which
brings me to a tired subject....
3.i used to live near "da music man" in the hills of virginny. the fact that he
listens to anything but country music qualifies him as a veritable audiophile
and should thus be revered on this list.
4. but seriously, has anyone picked up the new siddal album on bedazzled? it's
as gorgeous as "the pedestal". i haven't had a chance to listen to it much yet,
but i assure you, it's listy fodder.
5.people always tell me about the 4ad band samples on the chemical bros. album.
what tracks are we talking about here? for the life of me, i can't identify
them. then again, i'm going deaf. they're playing in d.c. btw on nov. 15. the
show is $20. needless to say, you wont' see me there.
6.(personal) hey there, Mr. jeremy orr. still nuts, eh?
goodnight all,
dave "i am not a number, i am a free man!" sargent
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:22:34 -0500
I hope whoever takes over as list administrator will have a firm enough
hand to boot off the list anybody who sends messages full of such
juvenile ranting and any more than one 'fuck you' per message.
And more to the point, if you want to get information on how to
'unsubscribe' the way to do it is NOT to piss off everybody on the list.
If you dont understand the internet enough to know how to look up a FAQ
and get the information you need. At be civilized enough to ask for help
nicely.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:05:38 -0500
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>> Geoff wrote:
>> >'Carnegie Visors' is a 27-minute instrumental used as a soundtrack for a
>> >film that was played before Cure gigs back in '81, and has not (as far as I
>> >know) been released on CD yet - the only release that I know of is the
>> >B-side of the 'Faith' tape as you mentioned.
>>
>> That's "Carnage Visors", not "Carnegie", btw.
>>
>> I've heard vague rumors of it being on a bootleg CD but no one's even
>> claimed to have seen it firsthand.
>>
>
>i have it on two cd bootlegs. one is called(i'm almost positive...
>i can go home and check) "curiosity/anamolies" which i think has
>"carnage visors" along with the extra songs from the _live 1984_ tape
>and a few other rare songs. the other disc is called something like
>_b-sides 1980-1989_ which contains "carnage visors", the b-sides from
>_three imaginary boys_ to _head on the door_, and "2late". not sure
>why it skipped the kiss me b-sides, but those along with the b-sides
>from _disintegration_ to _wish_(i believe) or on another b-sides disc.
>and yes, labradford sound very similiar to "carnage visors".
anyone have a good idea where i can pick up either of the two above mentioned?
kevin sheridan
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:06:23 +0200
Carnage Visors, indeed a strange movie, I saw it once in a circus tent in
1981 (cure circus tour), I even got that small b/w booklet that came with
the movie (a few picts from some puppet-figures in the movie and the cure
boys at the set), but... Does anybody have this film on video?
And are these soundtrack-bootleg versions taken from the original Faith
tape or from some 'better' source...?
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, October 29, 1996
... [email protected]
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:40:16 -0800
I haven't heard _Carnage Visors_, but Mark Nelson and Carter Brown admit the
following influences.
[This reprinted from an interview conducted by Chip (Veronica Lake/Sabine)
Porter in his "Emily's Hip Pocket" 'zine (#777). Everyone MUST find a copy of
this zine/7" combo, as it contains three UNMISSABLE tracks - Jessamine's most
psychedelicious moment, "Reflections"... an exquisite early Buddah on the Moon
track which has me screaming "MAURICE DEEBANK LIVES!!!" out the window at 5am,
and another typically beautiful Sabine track. Check out the recent Wurlitzer
Jukebox 7" for a taste of Porter's offbeat noise/pop ("my dream is to combine
the sounds of the Human League with the songs of Nick Drake. Pretty folk songs
with fucked up sounds," sayeth Porter in his interview with God (who also
answers to 'Graham Sutton'). Yes, folks - another reason not to miss this
one-of-a-kind package.
probably waaaaaay o-o-p, but here's the address info:
Audrey's Diary
1475 Latson Road
Howell, MI 48843 USA]
...also see if you can get the first Asha Vida 7" while yer at it!
but back to Labradford.
Mark -
R.E.M. - Reckoning
"I'm definitely of the generation that got into 'other' kinds of music (as
opposed to Bob Seger or something) with REM. And even then not until
_Reckoning_. That record made a really big impression on me. I remember
listening to it on my walkman the summer after I graduated from high school.
'Seven Chinese Brothers,' 'Rockville' - that's a beautiful record."
Brian Eno - Evening Star
Steve Reich - Electronic Counterpoint
Galaxie 500 - Today
"I remember all those together and feeling for the first time I really knew
what my tastes were and how I wanted to play guitar. That was an exciting
feeling."
Carter -
Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans
"Initially it would have to be [...] just because of the size of the album.
Four songs - four sides - it doesn't get any more excessive than that.
Felt - The Strange Idol and Other Patterns
"Brilliant, just brilliant"
Of note is Mark's pre-Labradford band, Scaley Andrew. SA also included Andrew
Beaujohn (Eggs) and played very "un-American" fragile Felt-like pop.
Labradford's first 7" (of which only a mere handful were pressed!) contains an
unusually 'straight-forward' non-LP track called "Preserve the Sound Outside."
Very much the bridge between SA and Labradford's "Listening in Depth." Sounds
quite a bit like FSA's most ecstatic moments on _Further_. The other 7" track,
"Everlast," was tacked on to _Prasizion LP_.
***
new Labradford (s/t) due out on Kranky soon. they've added a Hammond organ and
violin to their sonic tools...
***
now... what was the topic again? :-P
GuerillaG /
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:23:40 EST
> I know most of you might already know this, but for the uninitiated...the
> first two EPs ("Barging" and "Half-life") are now out of print, but are
> available on _Mrs._Dolphin_, which is a Japanese-only compilation that
i believe _mrs. dolphin_ is also out of print.
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:00:55 -0500
I have really fallen in love with the full-length compact disc by
Anchorage. I also have enjoyed the track on the Heavenly Voices
compilation also on Hyperium. They are on Hyperium Records. I was
wondering if anyone knew anything about them? They are T-L and I hope
someone out there knows a little something.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:55:36 -0000
The question for the most recently in progress for the 4AD Give-Away
# 3 was: Which former member of a band Juliana Hatfield played in contributes
guitar to the new Lisa Germano album??? Name the guitar player AND the band he
and Juliana used to be to win...
able to answer this one in their sleep!
Well, a winner was randomly picked today (Oct. 29th) and will receive
an unplayed mint copy of the "Head To Toe" 10" from The Breeders (BAD D 4012).
This contest is now closed. The winner is Lysa Bellott of
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:13:12 -0500
from http://www.netville.de/music/labels/hyperium/artists/anchorage.html
ANCHORAGE formed in the beginning of 1990.
Kai-Uwe Skerra and Heiko Nitsche planned to have a band on their own
after the participation in several projects. In 1991 guitar player Kai-Uwe
Saffran, lead vocalist Michael Liebetrau and female voice Angela Grahl
joined the group. This ment to be the first official formation and in 1993
they sent a demo tape to Hyperium.
Shortly after the signing of a record deal with Hyperium they began
with the recording sessions for their debut album. Tranquilly the Maelstrom
Starts was released in 1994 and the press echo was mor than enthusiastic. Some
months later Michael Liebetrau, Angela Grahl and Kai-Uwe Saffran left
ANCHORAGE. But nothing could stop the rest of the band:
With a bunch of gifted guest musicians they went in the studio. There
Kai-Uwe Skerra and Heiko Nitsche composed and recorded during 1995 the second
album The Bleak Wooden Tower with the help of the mentioned guests.
With this one (which is more neo-classic than heavenly voices-style)
Hyperium establishes the NEW CLASSICS - a product line which gives the
listener realneo-classic sounds.
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:22:41 -0800
> boys at the set), but... Does anybody have this film on video?
i'm sure someone on a cure mailing list would. is it true it was
claymation? that's what i heard.
> And are these soundtrack-bootleg versions taken from the original Faith
> tape or from some 'better' source...?
I don't see how it could have been from the tape since it sounded nearly
perfect. I had the Carnage Visors/Curiosity Anomalies cd and all of the
songs on it sounded as good as I could have hoped.
aaron
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:20:47 EST
> Geoff wrote:
> >'Carnegie Visors' is a 27-minute instrumental used as a soundtrack for a
> >film that was played before Cure gigs back in '81, and has not (as far as I
> >know) been released on CD yet - the only release that I know of is the
> >B-side of the 'Faith' tape as you mentioned.
>
> That's "Carnage Visors", not "Carnegie", btw.
>
> I've heard vague rumors of it being on a bootleg CD but no one's even
> claimed to have seen it firsthand.
>
i have it on two cd bootlegs. one is called(i'm almost positive...
i can go home and check) "curiosity/anamolies" which i think has
"carnage visors" along with the extra songs from the _live 1984_ tape
and a few other rare songs. the other disc is called something like
_b-sides 1980-1989_ which contains "carnage visors", the b-sides from
_three imaginary boys_ to _head on the door_, and "2late". not sure
why it skipped the kiss me b-sides, but those along with the b-sides
from _disintegration_ to _wish_(i believe) or on another b-sides disc.
and yes, labradford sound very similiar to "carnage visors".
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:58:51 -0700
Given the fast turnover on this list it's good to re-announce things
periodically, so...
I've started (with help from Jack Huynh) a new mailing list called
"pure-impure" (name stolen from Seefeel.) It's a spinoff of this list,
intended to cover music that mixes together elements of techno/ jungle/
ambient/ ethereal/ shoegazer/ dreampop/ noise/ drone/ dub, the more the
merrier. Seefeel, Laika, Flying Saucer Attack & spinoffs, Tricky,
Underworld, Massive Attack, Stereolab, Tortoise, anything on Kranky or
Thrill Jockey or VHF, et cetera. The labels "trip-hop" and "post-rock"
have been used for these sounds but I don't necessarily endorse those
names.
For more info, see:
http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/pure-impure/
Traffic has been moderate (averaging about 5 posts a day, I think) with
virtually no noise so far. See you there...
Feel free to forward this announcement to other forums where you think it
may be relevant.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:12:06 -0500
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Jeff Keibel wrote:
>
> The latest signing from 4AD, Gus Gus, are a collective of artists,
> musicians, filmakers, photographers, actors and more. The are from
> Reykjavik, Iceland, a city with 100,000 persons, many of which are
> extremely creative, thus a collective like Gus Gus. The collective has
> nine members, each of which plays a crucial point in all the group's
> actions. Their debut release on 4AD, an EP entitled "Polyesterday", is
> out now and available on 12" (BAD6013) and CD (BAD6013CD). Gus Gus will
> also release a full-length album early next year on 4AD.
speaking of GusGus, 4ad were kind enough to send me a
rather huge postcard featuring a photograph of the
entire ensamble on the picture-side, and some info
about their release on the flipside.
this is EXACTLY what 4ad should be doing with the
internet: i assume they got my address from the
form on the site, or maybe from the card i sent back
from the sleeve of 'shaving the pavement'..
on a related note, Island sent me a RHP poster free
just for visiting their site. it really makes a difference
(all you corporate types out there, listen up!), and
because of these simple acts of kindness i actually went
out to get 'songs for a blue guitar,' and am contemplating
a GusGus single or something...
lesson learned: the more little promotional stuff you
give away to fans, the more actively interested they
become. So here's a big cyber high-5 to 4AD!
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to give birth to a dancing star!
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:23:55 +0200
for some strange reason all the web's music stores that I use (they're all
american btw) list the new Mazzy Star singles as imports and charge $12.50
for each cds. they do this for some other singles too. does anyone have any
idea why ? more importantly, does anyone know where I can get these cd
singles for <$12.50 ? thanks.
-naor-
the man with the golden nothing
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:30:51 -0500
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