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Subject: fanzine with cassette
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:46:25 +0100
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:49:44 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:55:08 -0500
From: John Doe (950573@UTB1.UTB.EDU)
Subject: Re: watch-ootie
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 11:36:24 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSOL Dead Cities
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:31:13 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:56:38 EDT
From: Kill Killy Kill (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:39:38 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Breeders and Dead Can Dance
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:31:14 +0000
From: jlogan@WARCHIVEGW.RIV.CSU.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: Chris Acland
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:50:14 -0500
From: Ernesto Nieto Guzman (neitzl@WWW.TEQCORP.COM.MX)
Subject: CHRIS ACLAND (1966 -1996) - R.I.P.
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:27:17 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)

Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:46:25 +0100
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: fanzine with cassette


hello.

in the next days will be ready the first issue of "Obscure m=E9lancolies",=
 an
italian paper fanzine.

the link with the list is that this first issue will have attached a
cassette with songs of roman groups from the '80s, decidedly 4Ad-ish.  names
you don't know, anyway.

if you want to know more, go to http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041
and search around for it....


Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:49:44 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland


Sad to hear about this, they are playing alot of Lush around radio
this weekend because of it. I always find it sick that it takes someone's
saddenning circumstances to finally get the radio stations to play
a lesser known band's stuff. I saw them at their in store here at HMV
in Toronto and Chris was a very funny guy and seemed quite relaxed.
But with suicide, the person who feels that way sometimes doesn't
show it on the outside. Ah this is sad. It'll be hard to replace an
integral part of the band from the beginning of their careers.

We will miss you Chris.

Steve

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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:55:08 -0500
From: John Doe (950573@UTB1.UTB.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k


fuck you, Wilder.

Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 11:36:24 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: watch-ootie


It's called "Fear of a Black Hat" you over-zealous goofball.



Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:31:13 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSOL Dead Cities


not heard the full 'Dead Cities' yet. But "My Kingdom" is interesting.
Much more Goth than they've been in the past. It has that 'Blade Runner'
feel (gosh I wonder why?!) Makes me wonder how much the 'goth' leanings
of Orbital's "The Box" have influenced other UK/Techno stuff.


Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:56:38 EDT
From: Kill Killy Kill (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k


> fuck you, Wilder.
>

this is ridiculous.
there's no reason i should have to read this petty crap on a music discussion
list... i think people need to learn how to reply to individuals instead of
the entire goddamn list.
christ.


Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:39:38 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland without a k


On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, stereolad wrote:
> With all due respect, he *could* be replaced, couldn't he? Although the
> circumstances remind me of the death of Ian Curtis (i.e. their respective
> bands were just beginning to experience their biggest success), it's not as
> if the remaining members of Lush would feel compelled to start an entirely
> new band.

Um... yes he could be and hopefully will be replaced. But he was a damn
talented individual. I've not seen many drummers with the ability to work
with a sequencer as flawlessly as Chris could in the live setting.
(anybody thats seen a band like Curve live knows how terribly wrong
dealing with a sequencer & live drums can get!) Also one of the things
that 'Lovelife' proved to me, though its lyrics are insipid, Lush's music
is endebted to a VERY peculiar and quirky sense of rhythm. I realised
that all the way back to those first songs like De-Luxe etc., that they
often built their songs upon a rather ODD and unique rhythm. 'Lovelife'
since its surface elements were kinda a turn off for me (a little too
sugary) forced me too look for other things in the music, and I found
Chris to be contributing A LOT. I dont think his contribution creatively
will be replaced.


Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:31:14 +0000
From: jlogan@WARCHIVEGW.RIV.CSU.EDU.AU
Subject: Breeders and Dead Can Dance


Hello fellow 4ADists,

I've recently bought the Breeder's album "Last Splash" and I'm loving
it. Can any one impart more information to me about this band. I have
a feeling that they have released an earlier album. Is this correct?
Have any of the band members been involved with other bands?

In relation to Dead Can Dance, I have been a huge fan for a while
now. Does any one outside Australia have access to any further Dead
Can Dance stuff, e.g. bootlegs, live recordings, unreleased tracks. I
would be happy if someone could copy some this stuff for me if it is
available. I understand there is some Dead Can Dance material which
was released in the US (and probably in other countries as well).

P.S. I'm sorry to hear about Lush's drummer - although I'm not a
fan...



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Wagga Wagga NSW 2678 Australia


Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:50:14 -0500
From: Ernesto Nieto Guzman (neitzl@WWW.TEQCORP.COM.MX)
Subject: Re: Chris Acland


Hi all

  I too am saddened to hear about Chris' death.  What a waste.  I hope he is
in a better place than here tho.  But i do want to address this
"replacability" issue.  Sure he can be replaced, but i KNOW it will not be
the same....not just saying it isnt going to be the same band, but this man
had a really great talent.  I remember seeing them the first time....when
gala came out.  I was there alone in chicago....and He played Brilliantly.
One song stands out, Baby Talk....You know , where all there is , is that
drum sequence....well, Chris played that wonderfully!!! I stood there in
awe, him hammering away like that....then to hear Mike and Emma singing,
well....there are no words, tho i did just try to describe it.

 Anyhoo...forgive this intrusion into your HD, but i just had to say something.

Thank you,
Ernesto......Chris WILL be missed.
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:27:17 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: CHRIS ACLAND (1966 -1996) - R.I.P.


Hello all,

As many of you have no doubt heard, Lush's founding drummer, Chris
Acland, was found dead in his parents' home in Kendal, Cumbria on
Thursday 17 October.  His death was apparently a suicide.  (See
the home page for links to relevant news items.)

I am writing to tell you that I am planning to send Emma and the
rest of the band my condolences later this week.  It dawned on me
that many of you might wish to pass on your own.  To this end, I
have set up an account on my machine for the collection of emailed
condolences.  If you want to pass a message onto the band, send
your message to "eulogy@mugwump.ucsd.edu".  On Thursday morning, I
will print out all the messages sent there, package them up and
send them to the band via 4AD's London office.  To keep things
simple, please send just condolences there and send any personal
messages to me at "bkeeley@ucsd.edu".

There's not much more to say.  Chris will be missed.

Brian

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