Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Subject: cod
Subject: Re: Tones On Tail defended
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!
Subject: no balls
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Subject: Re: You really suck!/Earwig/spoonfed hybred
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Subject: Re: Tones On Tail defended
Subject: watch-ootie
Subject: Re: no balls
Subject: Tones on Tail
Subject: Chris Acland?
Subject: Re: Maxell Better Listen
Subject: *****Chris Ackland is dead*****
Subject: new Half String album
Subject: Re: Chris Acland
Subject: Re: Chris Acland
Subject: Chris Acland
Subject: KIM DEAL
Subject: DETOX
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Chris_Ackland=B4s_Suicide?=
Subject: his name is alive show next weekend
Subject: Re: cod
Subject: Re: Chris =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ackland=B4s?= Suicide
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Subject: Re: watch-ootie
Subject: Drummer from Lush dies
Subject: Re: Tones on Tail
Subject: CHRIS ACLAND 1966 -1996
Subject: Faye Wong / Lush Import
Subject: christopher acland
Subject: Chris
Subject: FSOL Dead Cities
Subject: Seely
Subject: Chris Acland
Subject: Re: Tones On Tail defended
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:47:31 -0500
at Oct 16, 96 03:33:31 pm
the program ended in january (I think) there is talk that there will be
a new campaign in the next year, but nobody knows for sure...
steve
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:54:38 EDT
A case of two cultures divided by a common language it appears. The
prefix cod- means a hoax or parody, being shortened from the English word
codswallop which means nonsense. Hence codpiece which is literally a parody
piece of a penis. Nothing to do with fish, although it's quite an apt
description of our several little skirmishes with Iceland since the war when the
might of the (civilian) Icelandic coastguard was too much for the British navy.
But I digress...
- Dez
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:48:04 -0400
i gotta git with jens on this one. the song "rain"
is probably the finest work that daniel ash has
ever done on his own (songwriting alone). as jens
noted earlier, the willingness to experiment so
wildly is what distinguishes the tones on tail
from both bauhaus and love&rockets (who deserve
a little more credit than jens gives 'em imho).
can anyone explain, while we're at it, how beggars
banquet relates to 4ad? i've wondered forever.
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:43:49 -0500
>4AD Bastards:
>
>May your balls turn pink if you keep giving me all this mail crap. Remove
the e-mail >"[email protected]" off of your fucking list or I'll get REAL mean!
>
>Lovingly Yours,
>ReD WyVeRN
>
nice touch, Red (if that's your REAL name)
(ok, i'm not a bastard and i don't have balls so the above doesn't apply to me)
I think if you can't figure out how to unsubscribe yourself then you deserve
this self-inflicted hell (as you see it). No one forced you to subscribe in
the first place. Doesn't anybody keep that message you get when you first
sign up? What about the fabulous 4ad FAQ? hint hint
Lysa
"stars in my eyes, stars in my face..." CT
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:37:07 -0700
> Many of us have no balls.
good one, Frank. it's no 'lonely is an eyesore'
but still...
wasn't that the final thing Pale Saints appeared on?
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:55:05 -0700
So does this mean all the old Maxell Point stickers are outdated or
invalid???
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:14:22 -0700
>
> Except for this Red fellow, who'll find more appreciative mail >
buddies on the "tormented loser scum" list.
Can I get the address for that list?
Do Earwig and S.H. have new Cd's out yet?
Brian
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:39:24 -0400
You can send all your Maxell points to me. I will be happy to redeem them!
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:47:37 -0500
>Which songs are on their eponymous 4AD EP, anyway? I haven't got that
>one, and I imagine they're probably all on "Night Music".
And there was a second eponymous compilation that was released here in 1991
I think. Is that still
available??? I haven't looked, but it hasn't popped out at me in my recent
jaunts to the record store.
I do know that the compilation (the newer one) sported that cool "slender
fungus" a capella song.
john
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:45:06 -0400
i just saw the best goddamned movie i've ever seen (slight exaggeration there).
it's the gangsta rap parody called "fear of a black planet". from the opening
Snoop Froggy Frog video to the N.W.H. (niggaz with hats) reunion tour, this
movie had me shedding many tears of laughter. finally someone has been able to
succinctly, overtly, and humourously point out why so much of "urban" (but
really mall-rat fodder) music is a marketing farce. just look at any suburban
youth and you'll see the pervasive effects of the look-black-be-white fashion
scandal.
what, you may ask, does this have to do with 4ad? well i'll tell you.
nothing
absolutley, f*cking, nothing
(begin sarcasm mode)but i can now pat myself on the back for not falling into
the marketing traps of those ignorant white kids. after all, i really did need
to buy two singles for tishbite and all 54 lush singles. i ain't no fool.
ok, moral of the story; ain't none of us here too smart nor
independant-of-thought to occasionally be tricked by record company hype.
artsy-fartsy
dave
[email protected]
yes, brain candy was one funny movie.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:19:18 -0500
At 10:37 PM 10/17/96 -0700, you wrote:
>> Many of us have no balls.
>
>good one, Frank. it's no 'lonely is an eyesore'
>but still...
>
>wasn't that the final thing Pale Saints appeared on?
I thought it was the Tom Waits tribute album
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:55:28 -0400
>At this point I have to speak up in support of Tones On Tail, whom I've
>long loved. Can someone give some reasons for dismissing them so rudely?
Basically, it's because of that song of theirs that I used to hear so often
on my local modern rock station (until I stopped listening, that is). The
title escapes me, but the song consists of annoying percussion + annoying
fuzz bass + annoying treated vocals going "yayayayayaya yaya ya" most of the
time.
Oh well, at least Daniel Ash was smart enough to stop being a goth.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:11:28 -0400
4AD-list.
Has anyone further news on Chris Acland from Lush's suicide? Is this true? No
need to ask really. If it is, we're in for weeks of discussion on it.
Roy
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 05:51:49 -0700
For all you disgruntled Maxell Points People,
I would strongly suggest e-mailing the company
through their web site at:
www.maxell.com
I must have at least 200 of those stickers which
I would like to see amount to something!!!
Adam
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:48:08 +0100
Chris Ackland, the drummer in Lush, has been found dead - it seems to have
been suicide. This news was on Radio 1 today.
Andie
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 03:49:31 -0700
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:51:10 -0400
The following statement has been prepared:
CHRIS ACLAND
4AD and CEC Management are devastated to announce the tragic news that
Chris Acland, Lush's drummer, sadly took his own life yesterday, October
17th.
Our deepest heartfelt sympathies are sent to Chris' family, friends and, of
course, Miki, Emma and Phil.
A statement regarding the band's future will be issued in due course.
There's not a lot else one can say,
Cliff Walton
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:26:48 -0700
You wrote:
>
>The following statement has been prepared:
>
>CHRIS ACLAND
>
>4AD and CEC Management are devastated to announce the tragic news that
>Chris Acland, Lush's drummer, sadly took his own life yesterday,
October
>17th.
No way! Is this some sort of sick joke? Damn, I really liked Lush too.
I hope they don't break up. This sucks giant mutant astro freak bong
schlong.
Brian
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:37:06 EDT
After reading Roy's post, I flicked through Teletext and found the story
to confirm that Chris Acland's body was found at his home in Cumbria. Suicide
wasn't mentioned specificly, but implied. I'm sure more information will come to
light soon
- Dez
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:00:16 CST6DST
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE PROYECTS THAT SHE'S WORKING ON NOW,
AND WHERE COULD I CONTACT HER MANAGER TO SEE POSIBLE FUTURE CONCERT
DATES.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:52:45 CST6DST
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH DETOX RECORDS?, IT'S AN OFFSHOOT OF 4AD LIKE
GUERNICA OR IT'S INDEPENDENT, WHICH ARE THE BANDS ON THAT LABEL,
AND, FINALLY, ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE ON THE 4AD CATALOGUE MAILORDER
OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO ORDER FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.?
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:03:35 PST
my, my, touchy arent we...
On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:20:33 -0400 M B
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:19:10 -0600
Just got back online after 2 months of no email service and I return with
this notice... I wanted to know what was going on in 4AD land, but this
seems to say very much. As a Lush fan, I=B4m going to miss him...
Rest In Peace Chris Ackland
Pepe
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'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
The Sundays
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:17:33 -0400
bent crayon, happy go lucky records, and speak in tongues present:
infrequencies II @ speak in tongues 4311 lorain ave. cleveland ohio
2 days of music
cerebus shoal
hula hoop
tel aviv
his name is alive
miss bliss
old hearts club
tono-bungay
heartworms
spiny anteaters
for more informaion send email to: [email protected] or refer to the
infrequencies part of the web site
hope some of you 4ad-ls can make it.
john/c
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:30:54 +0000
> A case of two cultures divided by a common language it appears. The
> prefix cod- means a hoax or parody, being shortened from the English word
> codswallop which means nonsense. Hence codpiece which is literally a parody
> piece of a penis. Nothing to do with fish, although it's quite an apt
> description of our several little skirmishes with Iceland since the war when t
e
> might of the (civilian) Icelandic coastguard was too much for the British navy
> But I digress...
>
Ummm, if you refer to my codpiece comment it was a joke.
not nearly as dumb as my country of birth would imply,
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:26:11 +0100
* * * * * * * * **LIGHT FROM A DEAD STAR
hoping Lush won't die too, much RESPECT to chris cause sooner or later,
your next heartbeat becomes you last......
CIAO
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:00:43 PST
but theyre still doing the "buy $ 25 worth of tapes and you get a $ 10
check back" promo...plus, gotta admit, maxell is better tape than tdk...
On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:04:37 -0400 FA ken clinger
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:43:23 -0600
On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dave Sargent wrote:
> i just saw the best goddamned movie i've ever seen (slight exaggeration there)
> it's the gangsta rap parody called "fear of a black planet". from the opening
> Snoop Froggy Frog video to the N.W.H. (niggaz with hats) reunion tour, this
> movie had me shedding many tears of laughter. finally someone has been able to
> succinctly, overtly, and humourously point out why so much of "urban" (but
> really mall-rat fodder) music is a marketing farce. just look at any suburban
> youth and you'll see the pervasive effects of the look-black-be-white fashion
> scandal.
> what, you may ask, does this have to do with 4ad? well i'll tell you.
> nothing
> absolutley, f*cking, nothing
> (begin sarcasm mode)but i can now pat myself on the back for not falling into
> the marketing traps of those ignorant white kids. after all, i really did need
> to buy two singles for tishbite and all 54 lush singles. i ain't no fool.
> ok, moral of the story; ain't none of us here too smart nor
> independant-of-thought to occasionally be tricked by record company hype.
>
> artsy-fartsy
> dave
> [email protected]
>
> yes, brain candy was one funny movie.
>
The movie is actually call "Fear of A Black Hat". The name is a
parody on the Public Enemy album "Faer of a Black Planet".
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:39:04 -0600
Does anybody know if this is really true?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:06:10 -0600 (MDT)
Hi...Got about 5 messages from independant sources on this, some say
they heard it on Radio 1, some say they heard it on another (possibly
college) radio station/program. Just thought you might like to
know...
Becky
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:57:06 +0100 (BST)
Sorry to get all serious, but I heard on the radio about an hour ago that
Chris Ackland has killed himself. There were no details, apart from the
fact that it happened at his parent's home in the Lake District. I'm not a
Lush fan at all, but it got me feeling all serious, and I thought I'd pass
on the bad news.
Nathan
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:34:16 -0700
larry wrote:
>Basically, it's because of that song of theirs that I used to hear so often
>on my local modern rock station (until I stopped listening, that is). The
>title escapes me, but the song consists of annoying percussion + annoying
>fuzz bass + annoying treated vocals going "yayayayayaya yaya ya" most of the
>time.
That would be "Go". A friend of mine used to have the extended 12" remix
of this. Be very afraid. I think it's a fun goofy song (tho it gets old
fast) -- but -- it's very atypical of Tones On Tail. Sadly, it presages a
lot of the dreck that Love & Rockets produced. Overall Tones On Tail's
music was very playful, experimental, tongue-in-cheek, with lots of weird
sounds and effects. Try to find a used copy of "Night Music" (which
compiles nearly everything they released) and listen to "Lions", "Moment
Of Fear", "There's Only One", "Real Life", "Performance"... almost any of
it except "Go", "Christian Says" or the shite live version of "Heartbreak
Hotel" they inexplicably put on it instead of the sublime "Slender
Fungus".
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:21:25 -0400
from the NME web site
LUSH drummer Chris Acland was found dead at his parents home in
Cumbria on Thursday, October 17. He was found dead by his father; he had
hung himself. Chris, 30, was a founder member of the band; he had recently
returned from a US tour with the band and had said that he was unsure
whether to join them for forthcoming European dates. A session drummer had
been brought into the band to rehearse for those dates pending his
decision.
One close friend of Chris's who had spoken to him recently said: "If he
was depressed enough to do this, it must have happened very suddenly. He
seemed fine."
As NME went to press, the future plans of Lush were unclear. They are
still booked to play European dates and were due to enter the studio early
next year to begin work on a new album.
Full Obituary in next week's issue.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:24:53 -0700
If anyone cares Lush's "Lovers of Today" is being sold at the
Netalog for $10.00. Anyone know which one this is?
Oh and where can I find Faye Wong music (is it like Celene Dion)?
I'm particularly interested in that cocteau cover she did though.
Burayan
Anata wa rezu desu ka?
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:44:37 -0400
i've heard from numerous sources about this...including a co-worker at
spin who heard that reprise records announced it...
don't know what to believe
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:14:23 -0400
Chris
You were an inconceivably wonderful bloke.
I still can't believe this. It feels like one of those horrible bad dreams
that it is such a relief to wake up from. But it isn't , is it? I feel sick.
To Emma, Miki and Phil,
my most sincere and heartfelt sympathy and love
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:56:18 -0600
Has anyone heard FSOL new LP 'Dead Cities'? Any comments?
Pepe
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'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
The Sundays
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:34:05 -0400
just a friendly little reminder that the new album 'Julie Only' by Seely,
Too Pure's first US signing, has been released this week. so check it
out. European tour dates are likely follow soon, but no news yet on US shows.
-greg