4ad-l Mail for 10-17-1996

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Subject: scenic fans
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:55:25 -0400
From: Naomi M Glina (SuprSwirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 1982
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:34:17 +0000
From: moran@hal-pc.org
Subject: lovesliescrushing sometimes.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:34:34 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:33:31 +0100
From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" (iboronen@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Tones On Tail defended
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:53:04 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: "...in a bad fucking way"
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:54:33 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Give-Away # 3
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 06:56:31 -0400
From: BVirts@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: 4AD Give-Away # 3
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 06:58:40 -0400
From: BVirts@AOL.COM
Subject: HNIA promo, Slowdive "morningrise" up for grabs
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:46:50 -0400
From: BlissedJ@AOL.COM
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 3
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:44:06 -0700
From: Fedgely Shep (guernica@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Mailer Problem
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:48:13 +0200
From: matthias walzner (artbooks@WWW-STUDIO.COM)
Subject: Re: Rainbirds
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:38:48 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: no Jive Bombers
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:10:16 -0700
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: My Hour of Power on CBC Stereo - THIS FRIDAY!
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:41:18 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: *Small This Listy Auction*
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:58:14 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: COCTEAUS KC DISASTER
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:33:15 GMT
From: cafe@ARIA3.LYON.ARCHI.FR
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:04:37 -0400
From: FA ken clinger (clinger@DUQ2.CC.DUQ.EDU)
Subject: Ack! You really suck!
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:20:33 -0400
From: M B (RedWyvern@WOW.COM)
Subject: insides
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:04:30 +0100
From: motherland (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: HNIA promo, Slowdive "morningrise" up for grabs
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:29:35 EDT
From: srchandler@JUNO.COM
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:15:28 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:31:36 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:02:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:00:51 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:55:25 -0400
From: Naomi M Glina (SuprSwirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: scenic fans


just thought id forward this for anyone whos interested and didnt know

>For all you Los Angeles residents Scenic are appearing at >Spaceland on
>Thurs October 17th. On the bill are Acetone, The Radar >Brothers and
>Franklin Bruno of Nothing Painted Blue.

>Thanks for the support, and as always, your time!

>Dave Allen
>World Domination Recordings
>Dave@World-dom.com
>On the web- http://imusic.com/worlddom

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:34:17 +0000
From: moran@hal-pc.org
Subject: Re: 1982


> > Colourbox aside, the label got bogged down in proto-goth and directionless
> > cod-ambient rock
>
> cod-ambient?  what mean cod-ambient?

Hmmm... I believe that refers to the ambience of cod pieces.

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:34:34 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: lovesliescrushing sometimes.


hi... could a kind soul please send me the current
address for lovesliescrushing... both real and email
would be great... thanks a bunch.

                ---> [spiral]
                99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu


Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:33:31 +0100
From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" (iboronen@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Maxell points (no 4AD)


Sorry to bother the list about my problems.
Does anybody have any idea about what to do to these Maxell points they
have on the stickers of cassette-  and videotapes?
I lost the address for the catalog..
Are they still running this program?

Any info greatly appreciated.
boroda

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:53:04 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Tones On Tail defended


At this point I have to speak up in support of Tones On Tail, whom I've
long loved. Can someone give some reasons for dismissing them so rudely?
To me, they're more interesting than most Bauhaus and far superior to the
90%-dreadful Love And Rockets. Their music is all over the map, from
spooky instrumentals ("Copper") to post-Bauhaus gloom ("Burning Skies",
"Movement of Fear") to fuzztone rock ("OK This Is the Pops", "Christian
Says") to weird pop ("Lions", "There's Only One") to total weirdness
("Slender Fungus"). There's an odd sense of humor and willingness to
experiment that drives all their music.
  Incidentally, "Movement Of Fear" is sampled by a rap-rock group called
the Funloving Criminals, on some song I keep hearing on the local Modern
Rock station. Pretty amusing. And it serves ToT right for ripping off
Pink Floyd's "Cirrus Minor" on "Lions"...

Which songs are on their eponymous 4AD EP, anyway? I haven't got that
one, and I imagine they're probably all on "Night Music".

__________          ___________________          ________________________
Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

  'Time in the shadow of the wing of the thing too big to see, rising.'
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:54:33 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: "...in a bad fucking way"


* Hoo-haw!  I was at a local used record shop today and noticed two old
Colourbox 7" singles.  One was "Punch", which I picked up because I
didn't own it yet and the other was "Baby I Love You So" as autographed
by Loritta Grahame!  It's still at Penny Lane on Queen West for $2!

* There is possibility of a new scheer EP before the end of the year.
Hopefully this will happen and if it does it'll probably be BAD 6020.

* There IS a promo 12" for Tanya Donelly afterall!  It's a two tracker
with a catalogue number of T1.

* Apparently 4AD is "releasing" those infamous GusGus 12" promos to
exporters, who'll be shrink-wrapping both GUS1 and GUS2 together.  Check
your local import people!

* The Jive Bombers are do-wopped to the the trash bin.  Due to the
lengthy time it took for 4AD to get the rights sorted out, it seems the
time for a Jive Bombers release on 4AD has passed.  Add "Bad Boy" to the
albums we'll never hear by The Rossberger Report, Going Home, etc...

* Back to Tanya Donelly again, it looks like her debut solo release will
be put out as a double 7"!!  Cool!  It will come out as a CD single as
well, of course.

* The first couple months of '97 features that aforementioned scheer EP
(if it doesn't see release this year), a single and new album from
Tarnation in January or February, debut 4AD albums from GusGus and Tanya
Donelly in March.

* Happy news for 4AD UK staffer Tony Morley.  His Leaf record label has
been doing so well that this will be his last month at 4AD!  If you have
yet to hear any of the fine 12" EP's from Tony's label, try seek them
out as they're worth getting into.  His address is P.O. Box 11403,
London, SW2 12R.

* Also, try to seek out artists on the Detox label.  Detox is run by
Colin and Lewis at 4AD UK.  The first several releases are out soon and
the release from Aeroplane on 12" and CD single features a secret
vocalist who may happen to belong in the 4AD stable of artists!  Check
the writing credits to find out who it is but the voice will be a dead
giveaway!  Their address is the same as 4AD's - 15 Alma Road, London,
SW18 1AA.  They use 4AD's distributer (RTM), so it's fairly easy to find
their releases via regular channels.

edited by
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 06:56:31 -0400
From: BVirts@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: 4AD Give-Away # 3


That's easy!!


the guitar player is John Strohm, and the band is Blake Babies!!!!


Brian Virts
20419 Riverbend Sq #301
Sterling VA 20165

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 06:58:40 -0400
From: BVirts@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: 4AD Give-Away # 3


sorry about the post to the list......i'm a fool (and it's 6:30 am) :(


Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:46:50 -0400
From: BlissedJ@AOL.COM
Subject: HNIA promo, Slowdive "morningrise" up for grabs


since i'm not a completist of either band i'd like to offer these to a more
serious fan. trades or offers welcome. please e-mail me if interested.

the HNIA promo has 5 tracks. comes in a semi-transparent folding sleeve. very
nice looking. i guess the catalog # is HNIA2. track listing:

1. in every ford
2. lip
3. drink, dress and ink
4. can't go wrong without you
5. the dirt eaters

packaging for the Slowdive single is in excellent shape.

Jeff

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:44:06 -0700
From: Fedgely Shep (guernica@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 3


For one lucky 4ad-l reader/poster:

Correctly answered entries to the following 4AD trivia question will be placed
in my "Shaving The Pavement" tour cap and ONE random entry will be picked on
Oct. 29th, at which time the winner will be notified by e-mail.  The winner
will recieve an unplayed mint copy of the "Head To Toe" 10" from The Breeders
(BAD D 4012).  No answers to the list itself will be considered as an entry;
send to guernica@hotmail.com.

The question is...  Which former member of a band Juliana Hatfield played in
contributes guitar to the new Lisa Germano album???  Name the guitar player AND
the band he and Juliana used to be to win...

- Fedgely Shep
guernica@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:48:13 +0200
From: matthias walzner (artbooks@WWW-STUDIO.COM)
Subject: Mailer Problem


Hi all,

some described the following error:

> @discovery.com>
>

I also got this message: His account must have been deleted.

I have tried to unsubscribe him...Let`s see if it has worked out.


Matthias

artbooks@www-studio.com

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:38:48 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Re: Rainbirds


On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:45:51 -0700, Jeff Keibel
 wrote:

> Anyone with further
>details about this overlooked band?

They released several albums on Mercury, including a Best Of in 1995.
Their latest album "Making Memory" came out on Rough Trade earlier
this year -- I assume they're still together, though I can't swear by
it. I don't know if K. Franck has released any solo discs. Perhaps a
German listie could provide more details.

The albums are exceptionally difficult to find in the US; I don't
believe any have been released here for years. To reiterate an earlier
post, German Music Express has several listed, at
swear by it. If anyone does try, please let me know how it goes.

Paul

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:10:16 -0700
From: nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: no Jive Bombers


So Jive Bombers becomes cat. no. IAD 6027, I guess.
That's a shame. I was so looking forward to this release
and the controversy it would generate. Thanks to a
listy friend I've heard at least part of it, and
I've got to tell you, this would have been the
most unusual thing yet to have the 4AD logo, and I'm sure
for some people it would have been the final nail in
4AD's coffin.

|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:41:18 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: My Hour of Power on CBC Stereo - THIS FRIDAY!



CbcStereoFM  Stations will be airing my "Hour of Power" in Canada
(with listeners in the US near these locations) this ***FRIDAY, OCT. 18
between approx. 11-1 am EST****  on an alternative stereo
show called Nightlines w/David Wisdom. I urge all listies
either in listening areas of CBC Stereo stations below
or in RealAudio, to give my Hour of Power a listen. I think
you'll like what you hear. Nightlines has been on the air for
more than 10 years and it is like the Canadian equivalent of the
John Peel show on BBC. CHECK IT OUT! Some of you may
already be Nightlines listeners, so you know what the show is like.
Listen Friday night after 11pm EST to one of the following:

FM Stereo Stations by Province in Canada

St. John's 106.9 FM

Charlottetown 104.7 FM

Nova Scotia:
Cape Breton 105.1 FM
Halifax 102.7  FM
Middleton 93.3  FM
Sydney 105.1 FM

New Brunswick:
Fredericton 101.5  FM (Bangor, Maine area listeners on the Canadian border)
Moncton 95.5  FM
Saint John 101.5 FM

Montreal 93.5 FM (St. Albans, Vermont on the border)

Kingston 92.9  FM (Rochester, Syracuse, Canton, Utica)
London 100.5  FM
Ottawa 103.3  FM
Peterborough 103.9 FM
Thunder Bay 101.7  FM  (Minnesota Listies near the Canadian Border on
L.Superior)
Toronto 94.1 FM (Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Western NY State)
Windsor 89.9 FM (Detroit, Dearborn, Livonia, sometimes Cleveland)

Brandon 92.7 FM (North Dakota listeners on the border)
Winnipeg 98.3 FM (northwest Minn. listeners on the border)

Regina 96.9 FM (northeast Montana, Northwest North Dakota)
Saskatoon 105.5 FM

Calgary 102.1 FM
Edmonton 90.9 FM
Lethbridge 91.7 FM (northwest Montana listeners on the border)

British Columbia:
Metchosin 105.1 FM
Vancouver 105.7  FM (Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia WASH. listeners)
Victoria 92.1 FM (Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia WASH. listeners)

Northwest Territories:
Yellowknife 95.3 FM

******AMERICAN LISTIES near the Canadian Border*******
For our American listies a Frequencies Map (to see
which is station is closest to you along the Canadian
border) can be accessed at:



******LISTIES outside of border area Canada/USA*******
For listies outside of these areas, but on the internet
My Hour of Power will also heard around the world in RealAudio!
For info go to:


Give me a listen, you'll dig it.

Steve

***********************************************************
You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:

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Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601

"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
 and start spouting universal truths without qualification!"
                  -Jude from Hal Hartley's  "Surviving Desire"


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:58:14 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: *Small This Listy Auction*


The following Items are in good condition.  Send bids to

Cranes - Lilies EP (promo, includes Lilies (Flood Mix), Brighter, Casa
Blanca, Shine Like Stars, Leave Her to Heaven, and Paris and Rome (Flood Mix)

Ride - Leave them all Behind EP (slight tear on sleeve on back, includes
title track, Chrome Waves, Grasshopper)

Flowchart - Multi-Personality Tabletop Vacation CD (on Carrot Top Records)

My Bloody Valentine - This is Your Bloody Valentine (on Dossier Records -
German Import)

Slipstream - S/T (on Carrot Top Records)

Jessamine - Odinary Sleep 7" (b/w "Cheree"...first Jessamine 7", Second
Pressing Out of Print...the band told me i recieved the very last copy!)

Jessamine - Cellophane 7" (b/w "(I'm not afraid of) Electricity"..out of
print second 7")

Jessamine - "Your Heads so small it's like a tiny little light" 7" on Sub
Pop.

Young Marble Giants - Final Days 7" (RT043, also includes "Radio
Silents", "Cakewalking")


minimum bid is $4...


thanks...
Matt


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:33:15 GMT
From: cafe@ARIA3.LYON.ARCHI.FR
Subject: Re: COCTEAUS KC DISASTER


vous parlez fran=E7ais!!!!  charabia!!!

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:04:37 -0400
From: FA ken clinger (clinger@DUQ2.CC.DUQ.EDU)
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)


On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Igor V. Boronenkov wrote:

> Sorry to bother the list about my problems.
> Does anybody have any idea about what to do to these Maxell points they
> have on the stickers of cassette-  and videotapes?
> I lost the address for the catalog..
> Are they still running this program?

No. A friend and I both used to take advantage of this program, since both
of us buy so many blank tapes. For several years, they renewed the
program, with little publicity. This past January, my friend called the
number, with a request for a current form, as was curtly told the program
was over, with no intention of renewing it.

I tend to buy TDK now...


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:20:33 -0400
From: M B (RedWyvern@WOW.COM)
Subject: Ack! You really suck!


4AD Bastards:

May your balls turn pink if you keep giving me all this mail crap. Remove the e-
ail "RedWyvern@wow.com" off of your fucking list or I'll get REAL mean!

Lovingly Yours,
ReD WyVeRN

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:04:30 +0100
From: motherland (ma6so@BATH.AC.UK)
Subject: insides


ages and ages ago there was a review of an insides demo tape in melody
maker, they said it was going to be released shorly but as usual they
lied. Both of the songs had 'blue' in the title and i think one of them
was called 'blueswailing'. Did they ever get released?, have they
released anything since the incredible 'clearskin'?, will their new
stuff come out on guernica?, have they got any new stuff?, whatever
happened to guernica?, does anybody care?.
giant.

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:29:35 EDT
From: srchandler@JUNO.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA promo, Slowdive "morningrise" up for grabs


Dear everyone,
        How in the world do I get off of this mailing list?  Please let
me know.
                                                SRChandler@Juno.com


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:15:28 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Maxell points (no 4AD)


> Does anybody have any idea about what to do to these Maxell points they
> have on the stickers of cassette-  and videotapes?
> I lost the address for the catalog..
> Are they still running this program?

nope, it ended at the end of last year.  there has been some talk of it
starting up again but i don't know.  the way it worked is you sent for a
sheet to stick all of your points to and when it was filled you could send
it in for free stuff.  most people just chose free blank tapes, which were
delivered to your door seperately wrapped.  even if you got 100 of them.

Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:31:36 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!


Some idiot wrote:

>May your balls turn pink if you keep giving me all this mail crap. Remove
the e-mail "RedWyvern@wow.com" off of your fucking list or I'll get REAL mean!

Many of us have no balls.

Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:02:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!


Randy Raymer wrote:

> I have found people out here(in general)to be ude, self-centered,
> egotistical, cruel, uncaring, two-faced, and deceitful, much like they
> are in the face to face world.

meanwhile, ReD WyVeRN wrote:

> 4AD Bastards:
> May your balls turn pink if you keep giving me all this mail crap.
> Remove the e-mail "RedWyvern@wow.com" off of your fucking list or I'll
> get REAL mean!

Does this answer your question, Randy?  We are all nice, caring people
with a love for this type of music.  Except for this Red fellow, who'll
find more appreciative mail buddies on the "tormented loser scum" list.

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:00:51 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ack! You really suck!


>4AD Bastards:
>
>May your balls turn pink if you keep giving me all this mail crap. Remove
>the e-mail "RedWyvern@wow.com" off of your fucking list or I'll get REAL
>mean!
>
>Lovingly Yours,
>ReD WyVeRN

Jesus, learn to do things yourself. Go to the homepage and find out how to
remove thy bunk self.

Fred