Subject: Re: Re : No More Canadian Shit
Subject: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation
Subject: videos on TV / Kula Shitsandwichwithoutthebread
Subject: Re: Kula Shitsandwichwithoutthebread
Subject: Stereolab & Nurse with Wound????
Subject: Re: DCD 2 12"/Colourbox 'Breakdown'
Subject: Re: Kula Shaker
Subject: Re: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: Re: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Subject: Re: HNIA / time STEREO
Subject: Re: RAINBIRDS
Subject: Re: Re : No More Canadian Shit
Subject: Re: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: lovesliescrushing's xuvetyn
Subject: Lush Superblast! U.S. promo single
Subject: Re: Lush Superblast! U.S. promo single
Subject: U.K is already hell.
Subject: Re: Curve (a despearte plea)
Subject: Any Bettie Serveert fans?
Subject: Re: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: Re: Doom Generation - enlighten me....(NON 4AD sort-of)
Subject: Re: No More Canadian Shit
Subject: Re: Faye Wong in Time
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:24:24 -0400
On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, Cedric Caspesyan wrote:
> To tell you the truth, I would take this joke from anyone
> living in this whole world except an American......
>
> What about Hollywood shit spread in 90 % of our cinemas around the
> world ? Mc Donalds ? Walmarts ? Microsoft ? Coke and Pepsi ? etc..
> etc....
>
i have a two-word oxymoron for 'ya:
canadian cinema
you know, canada could repeal nafta and ban all exports from
america if it wanted to. but it doesnt want to. instead,
it wants to enjoy the convenience of the american consumer
lifestyle while reserving the right to bitch about it.
and this is probably the most compelling evidence of
canada's wholesale acceptance of americanism--the attitude
which allows one to complain loudly while enthusiastically
complying with the so-called evil.
america--the city on the hill--where one can have shit
cake, and eat it too. get used to it or vote.
* * * * * * * *
* * * * 'ya can't get a suntan on the moon..
* but i wouldnt mind * * * * * *
* * * * * * a holiday there * * *
* * * * * * *
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:02:45 PDT
Hi,
Can some kind soul tell me a bit about "The Doom Generation". I remember talk ab
ut
it and remember TMC links and the like. It is finally here in SA (art circuit) a
d I am going
to go and see it. Pretty wierd so I gather. Any movies I could liken it to (NBK,
Pulp fiction,
Kalifornia etc.)???
Chris
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:50:36 -0500
It's long and good. I think it's called "One Note Samba."
jeh
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Joseph Burns wrote:
> Anybody know the details about the stereolab song thats slated to appear
> on the upcoming "Red Hot + Rio" disc?
>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:32:42 -0400
>I've heard rumours of a similar show on Much Music called City Limits (?)
>on Friday nights, but haven't found it yet. Is it still on the air?
No. and I don't know why. It used to be on Friday nights from midnight to 1
am but now it's been replaced by a stupid metal/industrial show called Loud.
>In the course of looking though, I found the Tube which is just hilarious
>- early 80s footage of everyone from The Cocteaus, Smiths, PIL to the
>Eurythmics, GoGos and Fun Boy Three. Worth watching for the
>hairstyles/outfits alone.
I saw that one the other day too. Too bad that with PiL they felt they had
to show "This Is Not A Love Song", the one everyone knows, instead of their
later appearance circa _Album_. Oh well.
>Any of you limeys (;> know the history of this band
>> know the history of this band.
I'm not a limey, though I did live among the limeys for many years. Their
singer is the son of actress Hayley Mills. That's about as interesting as it
gets.
>What are your perceptions
>of these puckish cats?
Awful retro nonsense. Stupid pathetic revivalism.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:18:30 +0000
On 14 Oct 96 at 10:32, stereolad commented informatively about
"videos on TV / Kula Shitsandwichwit" :
> >Any of you limeys (;> know the history of this band
> >> know the history of this band.
>
> I'm not a limey, though I did live among the limeys for many years.
> Their singer is the son of actress Hayley Mills. That's about as
> interesting as it gets.
>
> >What are your perceptions
> >of these puckish cats?
>
> Awful retro nonsense. Stupid pathetic revivalism.
Totally, this band are so dull retro headuptheirarse that even other
dull retro bands call them. They have no redeeming features.
Richard (who is still too old to remember the sixties)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:48:57 -0500
I saw this listing in the parasol catalogue. Has anyone heard this or
does anyone have any idea what the motives behind this were?
Were they brilliant or terrible or bland?
lisaroo
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:11:37 +0200
>i saw a couple copies of the dcd translucent red 12" for "nerieka"(sp) today.
>there's only one unreleased song on there. is it worth $9.99?
The DCD 2 12" includes 'Nierika', 'Dedicace Outo' & 'The Snake And The
Moon'. All can be found on the 'Spiritchaser' album.
>ok, only one more unthreaded question; what are the differences between
>colourbox's "breakdown" #'s 1 and 2? what version of "tarantula" does everyone
>here prefer? i vote for the colourbox cut. seriously.
The first versions are superior to the 2nd. It's like comparing a diamond
with a turd.
Frank
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:39:48 EDT
Someone asked about Kula Shaker and the replies have so
far been negative. They are retro, this is true, but the
singles have gone down well and the album has had good
reviews all round, except for Melody Maker. They are one
of the pet bands of Chris Evans, the breakfast DJ on Radio
1 here in the UK, along with Cast and Ocean Colour Scene.
Sony Music do have an official Kula web site, which is
at www.kulashaker.co.uk, I think.
There is an unofficial website as well that has been running
for longer and is superior. It is run by Kosso at Anderson and
Lembke, a regular contributor to Angst on nme.com. He asked Sony
if they would pay him to upkeep the site and make it official
but they preferred to get a company in.
Can't remember his website address, but if I get it I will
pass it on.
Steve
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:11:51 -0400
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 [email protected] wrote:
>
> Can some kind soul tell me a bit about "The Doom Generation". I remember talk
bout
> it and remember TMC links and the like.
i would describe it as a cross between "Clerks" and "Natural
Born Killers".
good: 4ad soundtrack, cinematography, the 3 actors who play the
3 lead roles, visual effects.
bad: the script. the attitude toward violence. the script.
i thought it certainly worth the 3 dollar rental, if for no
other reason than being able to hear cocteaus, TMC, love
and rockets, and mazzy star in the same movie. good fuck
scenes, too.
fnord
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:47:10 -0500
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>
>> ... pretty soon, everyone will listen to "underground"
>> music just because they get ripped on by all their friends for listening to
>> mainstream bands, and then the whole music world will flip and everyone will
>> rush to listen to the bands that used to be mainstream again, in order to be
>> trendy.
>> kevin sheridan
>> [email protected]
>
>This is exactly what happened with "Alternative".
>"Alternative" is not alternative any more, and hasn't been for
>a long time. "Alternative" is mainstream, pure and simple.
>All -- and I mean All -- the highschool kids in my neighborhood
>are into "Alternative". (Oh OK, there may be a few violin-players
>amongst 'em, who would rather go to the opera with their folks...)
>As I overheard the 17-year-old neighbor girl explaining to her
>parents, "Alternative is just label; it doesn't mean anything."
>And that's why we don't need top-40 any more; I can here the same
>Smashing Pumpkins song 24 times a day on four or five "Alternative"
>radio stations in my area.
>
>John Porter
>[email protected]
amen.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:36:28 -0500
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Kevin Sheridan wrote:
and then the whole music world will flip and everyone will
rush to listen to the bands that used to be mainstream again, in order
to be trendy.
yep. look at the number of hipsters running around these days listening
to frank sinatra, karen carpenter, 70s disco, etc.
trend-hopping is a sport that some people enjoy. they hang out with
people that share their interests, read the same magazines, wear the same
clothes. some of them delight in mastering the minutia of the styles.
sure, it seems silly to those of us who enjoy the intrinsic value of a
thing rather than its relevence to an overall style, but should we really
be so quick to judge?
why do some people like punk rock? why do some people like experimental
noise? why do some people like brit-pop?
so many of these things boil down to personal *taste* and what someone
gets from something. if something has value to someone, it's usually for
a reason and why should we be so quick to deny *that* value, to *that*
person, for *that* reason?
i'm sure there are plenty of people running around that click with alanis
because they feel like she's voicing the same kind of alienation and
frustration that they feel. sure, to me it seems trite and cliched and i
could probably name hundreds of people that voice the same kinds of
feelings with much more subtlety and depth, but they're where they're at
for whatever reason, and if alanis is focusing them on some kind of truth
within themselves, then it can't be *all* bad (sure sucks when i have to
hear her on the radio, though!)
sophistication of taste is something that takes time and effort and
self-analysis and a lot of people just haven't done much of these
things. the dismal state of culture in general (especially in the united
states) sure doesn't help point people in better directions.
some people are quicker than others in opening to the sublime. consider
yourself one of the lucky ones that have made it this far already. and
rather than slam people for their "lack of taste," you might want to try
>gently pointing them towards more sophisticated things that they're
becoming ready for.
the mediascape is an abyss because people don't care enough about what
they feed into their heads. and it's only going to change through the
evolution of culture, one person at a time.
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i'm trying.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:14:53 -0400
What tapes are worth getting? I have 'the dirt eaters' tape and it's
good. I also have the 'ESP Beetles' tape but that isn't as good to
listen to unless you're stuck in heavy traffic.
--- Lucius Kwok ([email protected]) ---
http://astro.temple.edu/~lucius
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:33:38 -0700
hmmm
like the song 7 compartments...
is that on the tape you have - is the rest of the tape like it???
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:26:39 -0700
>
> What about Hollywood shit spread in 90 % of our cinemas around the
> world ? Mc Donalds ? Walmarts ? Microsoft ? Coke and Pepsi ? etc..
> etc....
>
I'm not a big patriot or anything, by any means, but I think that this
stupid country bashing is a joke. Who gives a fuck what country gave the
world what...and if you have that much of a problem with your NEXT DOOR
NEIGHBOR, move.
We all know that you would never watch an American movie or eat a Big Mac
or use Windows 95 or drink a Dr. Pepper...you're too busy out in the woods
eating nuts and berries and buggering woodchucks. Great. Point made.
Let's talk about something else, shall we?
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:42:25 -0700
du>
>
>
> i would describe it as a cross between "Clerks" and "Natural
> Born Killers".
I'd say it was more a cross between "Natural Born Killers"
and what I cleaned out of my cat's litter box last night.
>
> good: 4ad soundtrack, cinematography, the 3 actors who play the
> 3 lead roles, visual effects.
The 4AD soundtrack was cool, although it was REALLY
pretentious...and that white trash guy drawling "I luuuv
yoooo darlin', yer ma Pearly Dewdrops' Drops!" was
enough to make me want to vomit. I think the only good
thing about this film was SOME, not many, but SOME of
the special effects, like the Asian guys head flying
across the room..yeah, that was cool.
> bad: the script. the attitude toward violence. the script.
THE ACTORS... ALL OF THEM, Cinematography, Contiguity,
plot, the idea of letting Greg Araki ever make another
film as long as he lives, the thought of ever seeing
Rose McGowan try to bitch and pout her way through another
BORING sex scene again, move on the part of Skinny Puppy
to play the skinheads, and on and on and on and on...
oh, and the script.
>
>
> i thought it certainly worth the 3 dollar rental,
well, better probably than say the Flintstones or Tank
Girl (both of which had cool soundtracks as well, but
sucked shit through a bendy straw), but I don't know
about WORTH IT....maybe if you had lots and lots of money
and 3 dollars was to you what 3 cents would be to your
Average Joe....
if for no
> other reason than being able to hear cocteaus, TMC, love
> and rockets, and mazzy star in the same movie.
Geez...go buy a 99 cent Maxell tape and mail it to me.
I'll give you all these songs, plus a good paperback
to read while listening to it... trust me, it will
be a much more fulifilling experience than Doom
Generation, but then again...shucking corn sounds like
more fun than this piece of dreck.
good fuck
> scenes, too.
>
>
Oh my god, this is a joke, right? What fuck scenes?
If you want a cool movie with a great soundtrack and
good acting and a fuck scene or two...go see
Trainspotting, for Christ's sake. If you just want the
fuck scenes, go rent a porn movie. I bet you the
plot, script AND acting would be better than TDG.
spreadin' luv and happiness like crabs....
Strick9
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:06:11 -0700
what do people think of thier latest lp? just got a for a couple of days,
but it reminds me too much of mbv's loveless. Which is a good thing, but it
is a bit too long (great for drug trances). how does it compare to their
first lp?
thanks
jack at novomedia dot com
'now i am slipping on the tears you made me cry
but that's what i get'
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:50:33 -0400
Anyone out there have and would be interested in selling the Lush U.S promo
single for Superblast!?
I've searched for many months now and have been unable to find it. Let me
know.
Thanks!
Roger
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:36:33 -0500
Would that be the one that is a blue cd?? Just asking, thanks :)
At 05:50 PM 10/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone out there have and would be interested in selling the Lush U.S promo
>single for Superblast!?
>
>I've searched for many months now and have been unable to find it. Let me
>know.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Roger
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:14:33 +0100
I think you need to stop complaining about the state of US music and be
grateful for what you've got. The US has all the best bands these days
and what do we have ?, we have britpop that's what. Did I say I was
English?, me? no way. Has anyone tried to get hold of any ESP tapes from
over here, It's not exactly easy (actually if anyone english has any
tips then I'd be grateful). Anyway, my point is that US music is
currently better than UK music I'd rather listen to Alanis than oasis
anyday and why the hell are we talking about Kula Shaker?, the sole good
thing which this band has done was to call Knebworth 'Knobworth' on MTV
but I guess the presenters could have done that.
PEOPLE IN ENGLAND ACTUALLY THINK OCEAN COLOUR SCENE ARE GOOD.
swap for a white label 12" promo type rarity of 'holding our breath' by
slowdive?. No? ,thought not.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:18:49 -0400
anybody out there have or ablke to acquire a copy of Curve's
"Superblaster"ep and would be willing to part with it?
I've been searching high and low but am having a hell of a time finding it!
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:06:08 -0800
I have a new Bettie Serveert discography page at:
Comments/additions/corrections are welcome!
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
{Ceci n'est pas une web site}--->10.10.96
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:06:50 -0700
(part II)
supposed to be perceived. Don't get me wrong--I thoroughly except and
encourage the tap on the back that we 90's males haven't entirely (not
that we should per se) debunked the entrenched stereotypes of man for the
legacy of actions attibutable to creating and maintaining those perceptions,
but come on how many "agonizing" and histrionic castration scenes do we have
to endure? We're not always attributing our overall effectiveness as males
to the function or "effective" reach of our penii, are we? Well maybe so
and this film is a brilliant little ditty on the nature of us 90's kids.
We are all consumer junkies and moral brigands HOORAY!
So yeah, this movie sucks. Watch it and snort, gaffaw and retch.
I can't believe that hoolywood thinks that this is the kind of "independent"
release we have all been jones-ing for.
Cool soundtrack though. When I saw the sneak screening of this in L.A.,
I stirred awake for the music.
Brett
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:55:40 -0700
Certainly would have to agree with Stick9's overall vilification of this
repugnant excuse of movie.
I've already harangued copiously about the nature of the impetus and
execution of this celluloid sludge. I'll recap for this individual.
This movie, at first, appeared to be a charicature of (dare I utter the
monicker?)--GEN X nihilism. Subversive and scathing of Kalifornia and
Natural Born Killers copycat flicks--not that either of these two examples
are the best of the genre, or so I thought initially, was what Doom Generation
was about. However, not that I had examine any minutae, this movie quickly
reiterated through the same sort of textual mechanisms--the very trend
that I thought it was trying to subvert. I mean, our parents generation, and
their parents, appear to perceive us as Niechtzian ubermen (and women) who
after recognizing the relativity of moral systems and the socio-economic
and geographic envirnoments that engendered them--we have said fuck it
and will now act on impulse (seeig that they fucked the world up pretty well
with all of their grand intentions).
Sure, we may have more menage a trois experiences per capita (and
anal stimulation) then their generation--but COME ON! (pun intended) What
I witnessed was gratuitous abuse of the audience, and a infantile regard
for story and substance. The only scene that had any impact on me was the
warehouse scene (with the skinny puppies)--it just hammered home the idea
of how ignorant and phallicentric males are (even in this "enlightened age")