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Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction #3
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:29:58 -0600
From: Jason Gnewikow (eplayman@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:30:51 +0100
From: Geoffrey Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: 4AD bands.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:49:20 -0700
From: Richard W (mastergw@GAIANET.NET)
Subject: Re: doing it for the kids
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:15:42 -0700
From: andrew dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:31:26 +1100
From: surtr (surtr@HEALEY.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:36:08 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Alanis chokes to death in freak harmonica accident
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:48:11 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Our Little Alanis
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:41:17 -0400
From: "gerald r. fnord" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Analis Lives!
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:57:59 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:51:57 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Stereolab on compilation
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:39 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Difference Engine
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:00:20 EDT
From: God in a Cupboard (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: marc jones mail
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:59:28 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Tanya
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:55:20 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:30:29 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: alanis/schmanis
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:12:57 -0500
From: princess dragonlisa (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: HNIA/Time Stereo
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:54:29 CST6DST
From: ROSAS BORJA GUILLERMO JOSE (AE24146@PRO.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:49:04 -0500
From: John Doe (950573@UTB1.UTB.EDU)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:48:49 -0500
From: Kevin Sheridan (KSHERID@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:57:45 -0400
From: Jill Burkart (starla@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:05:12 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: RAINBIRDS
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:37:59 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:24:59 -0400
From: Chris Mayes (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:31:41 -0400
From: Roger Mrazek (RogBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:30:46 -0600
From: Christopher Hanis (cmhanis@NYX.NYX.NET)

Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:29:58 -0600
From: Jason Gnewikow (eplayman@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction #3


>
>>VAUGHN OLIVER:  "Exhibition/Exposition 1Feb/11march'90" book min. bid $20.00
>
>I'll bid $20.

I'll give $25 for it.

-jason





**show a smile if you're lonely, but don't break you're heart.**


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:30:51 +0100
From: Geoffrey Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'


>"Casino Classics" - released this week.  Two CD set, the first one
> being the same as TYTD-TM, the second one is all new (apart from the
> 15-minute Underworld "Cool Kids of Death"), and has four new songs on
> it (remixed, of course).

I've been looking for this remix for a long time (being a huge Underworld
fan) - is it any good? Also, what are the other remixes like on this double
CD? Worth the proce of an import?

Cheers,
Geoff


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:49:20 -0700
From: Richard W (mastergw@GAIANET.NET)
Subject: 4AD bands.


Could anyone give email me information about this 4AD band
"Air Miami"  I borrowed my friends 12track promo CD from
them.  They don't sound that bad, although I recognize some
Lush tunes in the background :)

Anyways, I'm interested in them, and I thought I'd find the
most info here.

Get me at mastergw@gaianet.net    THANKS!


Richard W
mastergw@gaianet.net

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:15:42 -0700
From: andrew dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: doing it for the kids


> Doing it for the kids
>
> surtr (surtr@HEALEY.COM.AU)
> Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:43:07 +1100
>
> I was in an LP buying mood yesterday and found a compilation called
> 'Doing it for the kids', it has tracks by Heidi Berry, My Bloody
> Valentine, Felt, Primal Scream,....
>
> Does anyone know the story behind it, homeless kids maybe?
> It was done by Creation Records, England, 1988.
>
> ~danny~

not homeless kids, just pop kids. it was a full length compilation lp
(admitedly full of previously released stuff) for the price of a seven
inch single - my cassette copy still has the 1 pound 75 sticker still on
it.

mind you, this was the same label that first released singles that were
available on 12" only...

andy


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:31:26 +1100
From: surtr (surtr@HEALEY.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


>>ALANIS MORISSETTE IS TOP-SELLING FEMALE SINGER - Canada's Alanis
>>   Morissette became the all-time top-selling female vocalist in the
>>   United States when her debut album was certified at 13 million copies
>>   sold, a music industry trade group said Wednesday.
>>The shame.....the humiliation.

>I can understand that for a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Pat Benatar
>fan this would come as a humiliating blow, but I think the rest of us
>have level enough heads to be able to discern that, while Alanis can't
>compare with Liz Fraser or Jenny Toomey or even Kathleen Hanna, she's a
>damn sight better than the previous record holders. Let's just hope >that
>the semi-mythical upcoming Sundays album sells 14 million copies, okay?

Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
would love her.
 I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded

OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...

--------------------------------------------------------
'Not only am I not learning anything, but I'm forgetting
  stuff I used to know!'  -The Simpsons

surtr@sydney.healey.com.au  OR
  n9443080@scholar.nepean.uws.edu.au
--------------------------------------------------------


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:36:08 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death'

              "Geoffrey Elgey" at Oct 11, 96 03:30:51 pm

 Geoffrey Elgey  wrote on Fri, 11 Oct 1996
 (Subject: Re: St Etienne - 'Cool Kids of Death')
 > > "Casino Classics" - released this week.  Two CD set, the first
 > > one being the same as TYTD-TM, the second one is all new (apart
 > > from the 15-minute Underworld "Cool Kids of Death"), and has four
 > > new songs on it (remixed, of course).
 >
 > I've been looking for this remix for a long time (being a huge
 > Underworld fan) - is it any good? Also, what are the other remixes
 > like on this double CD? Worth the proce of an import?

 It sounds like the 5-minute CKOD from "Tiger Bay" (like several of the
 tracks on that album, the "original" is an Underworld mix), stretched
 to three times its natural length.  Not one of my favourite StEt tracks
 even in its shorter form.  The other remixes on the second "CC" disc
 are great (mostly) - PFM's "The Sea" is a bit like the Orb (when they
 were good) doing drum&bass, Broadcast's "Angel" is very spooky - the
 title makes the compilation sound as if it's all going to be bouncy
 dance music, but it isn't.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:48:11 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Alanis chokes to death in freak harmonica accident


> Here's a burning question that's been smoldering in my mind: What
>accent does she sing in? It's definitely not Canadian. It sure does bug the
>piss out of me.

It's the "I'm pissed off and whiny and 'artistic' now so I gotta sing like
every word hurts me in some way, even words like 'and' " accent. Mind you,
if you looked like a horse, you'd be pissed off too.


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:41:17 -0400
From: "gerald r. fnord" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Our Little Alanis


On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Jess Mangold wrote:

> just can't wait until Alanis and her American counterpart,
> Tiffany, do a joint project. It'll be the music event of the season.
>         Here's a burning question that's been smoldering in my mind:


        joint....burning....smoldering.... the frame of mind
        that allowed j. mangold to compose this post?
        that's why they call it "dope"

        ;)


        oh, the accent alanis sing in shit-ese

             *************************|*************************
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             owilde@umich.edu         | pet sounds   beach boys
             infiltrator,             | stars on ESP hnia
             ancient and illuminated  | gaucho       steelydan
             seers of bavaria         | sunny ep     morrissey
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:57:59 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Analis Lives!


   list with a joke subject header about someone dying?


(The end of it was cut off in my mail queue and I thought it was serious.
 You bastard!)



         einexile, child of purity and light

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:51:57 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, surtr wrote:

> Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
> lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her.

If she had started on 4AD and not sold so many CDs, it probably would
have had something to do with her music being a hell of a lot better than
it actually is. (Not that 4AD is a good record label anymore.)

>  I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded

You mean like by assuming the personal taste and artistic judgements of
400 people are colored by gross and unfair bias and hatred of the
successful?

I can assure you that only about 325 of us hate those who are successful!



    Charles Uzzell-Edwards is a cking genius,

         e


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:39 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab on compilation


Anybody know the details about the stereolab song thats slated to appear
on the upcoming "Red Hot + Rio" disc?


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:00:20 EDT
From: God in a Cupboard (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Difference Engine


> I'm really having trouble finding information on Difference Engine, the
> New York or New Jersey band.  I have their album and 2 7" singles.
> There's at least one more 7" but that's all I know about them besides
> what's written on the releases themselves.  Could anyone who knows more
> than I please send me a quick email?  thanks
>
> aaron
> fearless@u.washington.edu
>

could whoever knows more about them send it to the list?
i saw them with his name is alive years ago...
ive never even been able to find their stuff..

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:59:28 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: marc jones mail


yeah, i get this everytime in duplicate no less....its a pain, but such
are the kinks of life...
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:19:29 -0700 shar everett 
>is anyone else on this list getting multiple return mails from marc
>jones
>when they send an email to the list????
>
>who is this guy??
>
>shar
>sharlito@teleport.com
>


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:55:20 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Tanya


correct

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:30:29 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


>
> Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
> lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her.                                           ^^^^^^^^
>  I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
> OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...
>

smack!

please do not make generalizations like above.  if i don't like a band,
it has nothing to do with their popularity.  i believe the same could
be said for most of the people on this list.  in fact, i gave up on radio
and mtv years ago because i did't want them to tire me of bands i like...
not because they may be becoming popular, but because i don't want to hear
"feed the tree" twenty times a day.  i really have no clue of what is popular
these days.  i work in a record store, and people kept coming in looking
for some "macarena" song.  after turning about ten people away in one weekend,
i finally opened billboard to see that it was the number one song in the states.
i tuned in to the radio, and within ten minutes heard the song... i wish i
hadn't.  i'm still a cure fan, love sebadoh, belly, pavement, ...

if your still reading: thrill jockey just released an album from bundy
brown, the drummer from codiene(i forget his name... doug sharrin? also
the person responsible for Him), and someone else i forget.  i think its
titled _directions in music_.  i'm no help at all... just thought some of
you would be interested.

jessamine and labradford tomorrow night in a club the size of my cubicle...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  i wonder who the "headliner" is?


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:12:57 -0500
From: princess dragonlisa (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: alanis/schmanis


quote************
Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
would love her.
 I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded.
*************

I must say that while *some* people hold this view, I think the vast
majority of listies do not. what then of EBTG, or mojave 3, or
RHP, whose latest album is 3rd on the college charts (aprox.)??

I have not forsaken these bands because of their commercial success
and I think that most of those here have not either. I am fairly
certain that the main complaint is that her music is just mediocre
and we collectively resent the praise and adulation of mediocrity.
At least she shouldn't give the impression that she is the lone
songwriter and that she gets all of the credit.  That too is
inexcusable.  Simply crediting someone on your album is not enough when
they did the bulk of the musical work....

The simple fact is that the music is just bad. screw mediocre!

Anyway, these are my complaints. only mine. hi-ho.

lisaroo svetlana of the south

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:54:29 CST6DST
From: ROSAS BORJA GUILLERMO JOSE (AE24146@PRO.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: HNIA/Time Stereo


I would like to know which of the cassettes on time stereo are worth
buying , and where can I get the HNIA videos.

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:49:04 -0500
From: John Doe (950573@UTB1.UTB.EDU)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


uh...
i have to comment on the alanis thing.. well, i don't like her because hsr
voice is stupid unlike the beautiful voices on the 4ad label.  i seriously
doubt that Ivo would actually sign somthing as horrid as all-anus on his record
label.  I mean, even Scheer is better than alanis.  her lyrics are okay... a
bit teeny-bopper but alright nonetheless.  But the music and the voice is just
too much....
the bottom line is that she sucks.  not only that, but she looks like a horse
too  ;)

-me.


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:48:49 -0500
From: Kevin Sheridan (KSHERID@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


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ALANIS MORISSETTE IS TOP-SELLING FEMALE SINGER - Canada's Alanis
   Morissette became the all-time top-selling female vocalist in the
   United States when her debut album was certified at 13 million copies
   sold, a music industry trade group said Wednesday.
The shame.....the humiliation.

I can understand that for a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Pat Benatar
fan this would come as a humiliating blow, but I think the rest of us
have level enough heads to be able to discern that, while Alanis can't
compare with Liz Fraser or Jenny Toomey or even Kathleen Hanna, she's a
damn sight better than the previous record holders. Let's just hope >that
the semi-mythical upcoming Sundays album sells 14 million copies, okay?
>
>Yeah, but as soon as they(or any artist on 4ad) do, it will be this
>lists duty to criticize them and what they are doing. Why is it that
>anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
>If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
>would love her.
> I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
>OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...

--------------------------------------------------------
'Not only am I not learning anything, but I'm forgetting
  stuff I used to know!'  -The Simpsons

surtr@sydney.healey.com.au  OR
  n9443080@scholar.nepean.uws.edu.au
--------------------------------------------------------

have to agree. i have a friend who said to me about the new (brilliant) jawbox
album (which i am sure most of you would not listen to), "even though it is on
a major record label, it's one of my picks for album of the year." this kind
of statement frightens me. pretty soon, everyone will listen to "underground"
music just because they get ripped on by all their friends for listening to
mainstream bands, and then the whole music world will flip and everyone will
rush to listen to the bands that used to be mainstream again, in order to be
trendy. i hate alanis as much as the next guy, but my chagrin over her success
is due to lack of talent. if she was any good (and didn't whine so much), i am
sure i would like her...regardless of success (of course she probably wouldn't
be successful if she was talented). all i am saying is that people seem to be
listening to music for the wrong reasons these days, and it sickens me. the
amount of cash in the pocket of an artist should have no effect on people's
opinions of that artist.
kevin sheridan
ksherid@uoft02.utoledo.edu


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:57:45 -0400
From: Jill Burkart (starla@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, surtr wrote:

> anything that sells well is automatically under a negative light.
> If Alanis had started on 4ad and didn't sell so many CD's everyone here
> would love her.
>  I thought the people here would be a bit more open minded
>
> OK, said that, hit me, hit me,...

Well, not necessarily.  I work in a record store and heard her album way
before it got popular or played on the radio.  I detested that album.  We
wouldn't play it in the store because she shrieked all the way thru it.
I'd, however, like to add that while I still hate that album, Alanis gives
me hope because I don't sing any better than she does and I always thought
I wouldn't be able to get a record deal with my voice:)

Besides, while 4AD is the best record label I know of (Castle von Buhler
and Cleopatra 2nd and 3rd respectively), I don't love EVERYTHING they
release...just most of it:)

Jill


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:05:12 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA/Time Stereo


>I would like to know which of the cassettes on time stereo are worth
>buying , and where can I get the HNIA videos.

I have purchased 8 Time Stereo cassettes.  I have ranked them here, in
order of their brilliance:

1. ESP Summer- so good, I bought it on CD!  features Ian Masters from Pale
Saints
2. ESP Family-  Coal miner and communist folk songs.  Warren mixes the
songs so that every other one sounds like it was recorded on those tin
cylinders that the earliest recordings were made on.
3. New Grape- Features Dara.  Very noisy, but the two new grape theme songs
(based on old radio jingles i think) make it all worth it.
4. HNIA live in MExico-  Live His Name Is Alive tracks, with bits of
MExican radio overdubbed on top of it.
Great for a laugh.  Good chuckle quotient.
5. Little Princess- Beat Bandit.  A small digital watch that plays music is
the basis for this 23 minute piece of music.  Nice background stuff
6. Pail Saint- just keyboard sounds that Ian and warren used when making
ESP summer.  More background stuff.
7. ESP Beetles- live jams.  This is atonal, jarring, noisy, and I can't
listen to it for more than a few minutes.
8. Noise Camp-  Utter crap.  this is a perfect example of "the emporer's
new clothes".  This isn't good or even interesting, and anyone that says it
is is just trying hard to be hip or avant garde.  This is played in POW
camps and used to make prisoners confess to their most heinous crimes.
Within seconds, everyone spills the beans.  Works everytime!!  Oh, what is
it????  It is tapes of kids playing at summer camp, mixed with noise
noodlings.

John

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:37:59 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: RAINBIRDS


does anyone have any info on this band??

shar
sharlito@teleport.com

Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:24:59 -0400
From: Chris Mayes (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation


Joseph Burns wrote:
>
> Anybody know the details about the stereolab song thats slated to appear
> on the upcoming "Red Hot + Rio" disc?

        Yeah, I just discovered it at the radio station where I DJ and
engineer.  The track is a double song, I suppose.  It's titled One Note
Samba/Surfboard.  The 'lab are paired With a guy called Herbie Mann, who
I assume must be a Latin-style flutist, as this instrument is very
prominent in the mix.  Yep, there it is: "Herbie Mann: C flute."  Latin
flutes and Moogs never sounded so good together!  There is a segway abt.
2/3 of the way through the track to what must be the second song.  The
second song features a vibraphone or perhaps a marimba.  I've only
listened to it a couplea times.  It's a cool track.  'Course, Stereolab
can do no wrong in my book ;-)

        The rest of the CD is kinda spotty.  Other good tracks include people
such as EBTG, Money Mark, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Mad Professor, and David
Byrne.  I am not sure when it's released publicly, but the Stereolab
track is cool enough to warrant a purchase on its merits alone.
However, that doesn't mean that the rest of it sucks.  It's just the
most outstanding track on the comp (IMHO).  Don't take my word for it.
Have a listen if you have the opportunity.

                                        TTFN,
                                            Chris M.


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:31:41 -0400
From: Roger Mrazek (RogBoy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab on compilation


I have a sampler that features this recording called "Music You Haven't Heard
Yet Vol.2. (Antilles).  Stereolab does a track with Herbie Mann called "One
Note Samba/Surfboard".  Yes, it's amazing.

The sampler notes that Red, Hot & Rio should be available on 10/15/96.

Rogboy


Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:30:46 -0600
From: Christopher Hanis (cmhanis@NYX.NYX.NET)
Subject: Re: The U.S. is going to hell


Kevin Sheridan wrote:

> and then the whole music world will flip and everyone will
> rush to listen to the bands that used to be mainstream again, in order
> to be trendy.

yep.  look at the number of hipsters running around these days listening
to frank sinatra, karen carpenter, 70s disco, etc.

trend-hopping is a sport that some people enjoy.  they hang out with
people that share their interests, read the same magazines, wear the same
clothes.  some of them delight in mastering the minutia of the styles.

sure, it seems silly to those of us who enjoy the intrinsic value of a
thing rather than its relevence to an overall style, but should we really
be so quick to judge?

why do some people like punk rock?  why do some people like experimental
noise?  why do some people like brit-pop?

so many of these things boil down to personal *taste* and what someone
gets from something.  if something has value to someone, it's usually for
a reason and why should we be so quick to deny *that* value, to *that*
person, for *that* reason?

i'm sure there are plenty of people running around that click with alanis
because they feel like she's voicing the same kind of alienation and
frustration that they feel.  sure, to me it seems trite and cliched and i
could probably name hundreds of people that voice the same kinds of
feelings with much more subtlety and depth, but they're where they're at
for whatever reason, and if alanis is focusing them on some kind of truth
within themselves, then it can't be *all* bad (sure sucks when i have to
hear her on the radio, though!)

sophistication of taste is something that takes time and effort and
self-analysis and a lot of people just haven't done much of these
things.  the dismal state of culture in general (especially in the united
states) sure doesn't help point people in better directions.

some people are quicker than others in opening to the sublime.  consider
yourself one of the lucky ones that have made it this far already.  and
rather than slam people for their "lack of taste," you might want to try
gently pointing them towards more sophisticated things that they're
becoming ready for.

the mediascape is an abyss because people don't care enough about what
they feed into their heads.  and it's only going to change through the
evolution of culture, one person at a time.

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