Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:04:41 -0700
Well the time has come once again for me to part with some
gems in my collection in order to create funds for more tangible things in
life. Luckily I'm becoming less and less of a collector these days so I
don't expect to deal with too much seperation anxiety. I hope most of
these items can find some happy new homes where they will be cherished
and listened to (I want to make them availlable initally to the list
members as I know how enthusiastic most of you are about thee muzak ).
Criteria for purchasing items will be done on a bidding system which will
last for seven days (starting monday Oct. 7 and ending sunday Oct. 13 at
account or they will not be accepted. An update of current bid status
will be sent out daily only t o those participating in the auction. If
you have any questions of inquiries, please don't hesitate to send them
my way. Happy bidding....
COMPACT DISCS: (Minimum bids: CDEP $3.00 / CD $5.00 except where noted)
ALL ABOUT EVE: "Scarlet" CDEP (Mercury/UK) w/ 3 live tracks
AND ALSO THE TREES : "A Retrospective 1983-1986" CD (Reflex/Germany) rare
A.R. KANE: "Rem'i'xes" CD (Rough Trade/Germany) Robin Gutherie mixes
A.R. KANE: "Americana" CD (Luaka Bop/US)
BAILTER SPACE: "The Aim" CDEP (Matador/US)
BAILTER SPACE: "Robot World" CD (Matador)
BEAUTIFUL PEA GREEN BOAT: "Still Life" CD (C'est La Mort/US)
THE BELLTOWER : "In Hollow" CDEP (Ultimate/UK) pre-Ivy shoegazers
BLIND MR. JONES: "Tatooine" CD (Cherry Red/UK)
BOO RADLEYS: "Lazarus EP" CD-5 (Columbia/US)
BOYRACER : "In Full Colour" CD (Zero Hour/US)
MICHAEL BROOK : "Cobalt Blue" CD (4AD/US)
HAROLD BUDD : "The White Arcades" CD (Opal/US)
BUTTERFLY CHILD : "Ghetto Speak" CDEP (Rough Trade/UK)
BUTTERFLY CHILD : "Onomatopoeia" CD (Rough Trade/UK)
CATHERINE WHEEL : "Chrome" CD ltd. foil cover (Fontana/US)
CATHERINE WHEEL : "Crank" CDEP (Fontana/UK) pt. 2 with "TongueTwisted"
CATHERINE WHEEL : "I Want to Touch You" CDEP (Fontana/UK) very rare/$5.00
CATHERINE WHEEL : "Balloon" CDEP (Fontana/UK) minimum bid: $5.00
CATHERINE WHEEL : "Black Metallic" CDEP (Fontana/UK) min. bid: $5.00
CATHERINE WHEEL : "Painful Thing" CDEP (Fontana/UK) min. bid: $5.00
THE CURE : "Fascination Street" CD-5 (Elektra/US)
THE CURE : "Never Enough" CD-5 (Elektra/US)
DEAD CAN DANCE: "Into The Labyrinth" advance CD (4AD/US) $2.00
DIGITAL SEX : "Essence & Charm" CD (Sordide Sentimental/France) a la
81-84 Factory stuff
DIGITAL SEX : "Essence & Rarities 1982-1987" CD (RAMA/US)
DISCO INFERNO: "D.I. Go Pop" CD (Bar None/US)
DROP : "Reflections" CDEP (Chapter 22/UK) a la early Ride
DROP NINETEENS : "Delaware" CD (Caroline/US)
THE EARTHMEN : "Fall&Rise of My Favorite 60'S Girl" mini-CD (Seed/US)
EAST VILLAGE: "Drop Out" CD (Summershine/Australia)
ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN : "Inside Me Inside You" CDEP (Euphoric/UK)
18TH DYE : "Tribute to a Bus" CD (Che/UK)
ELASTICA : "Line Up" CDEP (Bluff/UK0 minimum bid: $5.00
ELASTICA : "Connection" CDEP (Bluff/UK) minimum bid: $5.00
ELASTICA : "Waking Up" CDEP (Bluff/UK) minimum bid: $5.00
FRAZIER CHORUS : "Sue" CD (Virgin/UK) first post-4AD LP
FRAZIER CHORUS : "Sloppy Heart" CDEP (Virgin/UK) ltd. ed. heart shaped
HEAVENLY BODIES : "Celestial" CD (C'est La Mort/US) ex-Dead Can Dance
IN THE NURSERY : "Stormhorse" CD (Sweatbox/UK) includes "Trinity" EP
IN THE NURSERY : "Twins" CD (Sweatbox/UK) includes "Temper" EP
JALE : "Dream Cake" CD (Subpop/US) advance CD
KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION: "Breathing Fear" CDEP (One Little Indian/UK)
KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION : "Smiling" CD-5 (A&M/US) promo cd single
LEAD AND THOUGHTS AND SPEARS : "S/T" CD (Adamo/US) much like Dif Juz
LEVITATION : " After Ever" CDEP (Ultimate/UK) ex-House Of Love
LEVITATION : "Coppelia" CDEP (Ultimate/UK) debut single
LONG FIN KILLIE : "Houdini" CD (American/US) stamped promo
LOTION : "Full Isaac" CD (Spinart/US)
MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO : "Satricon" CD (Mute/US)
MEDICINE : "Shot Forth Self Living" CD (American/US)
MODERN ENGLISH : "Pillow Lips" CD (TVT/US) niceV23 cover, but....
MOONSHAKE : "Beautiful Pigeon" CDEP (Too Pure/UK)
MOONSHAKE : "Secondhand Clothes" CDEP (Too Pure/UK)
ORBITAL : "Halcyon" CDEP (FFRR/US)
RAIN TREE CROW: "Blackwater" CDEP (Virgin/UK)
RED HOUSE PAINTERS: "I Am A Rock" CD-5 promo (4AD/US) $2.00
RED LORRY YELLOW LORRY: "Paint Your Wagon" CD (Red Rhino/UK) + 5 nonLP
SMASHING ORANGE: "S/T" mini-CD (Native/UK)
SUN & THE MOON: "Alive Not Dead" CDEP (Midnight Music/France)
SUN & THE MOON: "S/T" CD (Geffen/US)
DAVID SYLVIAN/RYUICHI SAKAMOTO: "Heartbeat" CDEP (Virgin/UK)
TEAR GARDEN: "Tired Eyes..." CD (Nettwerk/US) w/ "Center Bullet" EP
THAT DOG: "S/T" CD (Guernica/UK)
THAT UNCERTAIN FEELING: "Sunriser" CDEP (DeadDeadGood/UK) moody shoe
THAT UNCERTAIN FEELING: "On The Edge" CDEP (DeadDeadGood/UK) -gazer pop
TRISOMIE 21: "Works" CD (Play It Again Sam/Belgium)
THOUSAND YARD STARE: "Comeuppance" CDEP (Polydor/UK) dark baggy 90's pop
ULTRACHERRY VIOLET: "I Fall To Pieces" CD (Bedazzled/US)
includes full EPs from Throwing Muses (BAD701), Wolfgang Press
(BAD702), AR Kane (BAD704), M/A/R/R/S (BAD707R/BAD707), & Frazier Chorus
(BAD 708) minimum bid: $50.00
18th Dye, ect.
Cocteau Twins,Lush, Cranes, Kitchens of Distinction, min bid:$10.00
Telescopes, Field Mice, Loop.
scene on fire--SPART 1.
House of Love, ect.
Durutti Column, And Also The Trees, and exclusive tracks/versions
from In The Nursery and Breathless.
ALL ABOUT EVE: "Flowers In Our Hair" 12"EP (Even/UK)
AND ALSO THE TREES: "Farewell To The Shade" LP (Reflex/UK) test pressing
AND ALSO THE TREES: Boxed Set (Reflex/UK) includes 1 7" & 6 12"EPs
w/ nice Book $25.00
IN CAMERA: "Final Acheivement" 7" (4AD/UK) AD8 min. bid $5.00
JAMES RAY GANGWAR: "Another Million Dollars" 12"EP (MercifulRelease/UK)
LONG FIN KILLIE: "7" Super Single" 3x7" (TooPure/US) with 3 exclusives
MODERN ENGLISH: "I Melt With You" 7" (4AD/UK) AD212 min. bid $5.00
MODERN ENGLISH: "Chapter 12" 7" (4AD/UK) AD401 w/ "Ringing In The Change"
PALE SAINTS (TINTWHISTLE BRASS BAND): " A Thousand Stars.." 7"(4AD/UK) +1
STEREOLAB/NURSE WITH WOUND: "Crumb Duck" 10" (Clawfist/UK) min bid $15.00
SUN & THE MOON: "Peace In Our Time" 12" promo (Geffen/US) w/ 2 non-LP
HIS NAME IS ALIVE: "Early Works 1985-1989" Cass (Subterranean/US)
HIS NAME IS ALIVE: "Love Can't Buy Happiness" Cass (Subtarreanean/US)
pre-Ivo/Fryer mixes w/ lots of unreleased material
Cocteau Twins, Dif Juz, New Order, Durutti Column, Eyeless In Gaza,
Chris & Cosey, ect.
w/ demos from Xmal Deutschland, Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins, In
the Nursery, Colourbox, ect.
edits, live versions from Ride, Swervedriver, Slowdive, ect.
edits, + mixes from New Order, Durutti Column, Electronic,
Revenge, Wendys, Northside, ect.
Baby" (alt. vers.), and other album tracks.
w/ Chapterhouse, Spirea X, Teenage Fanclub, Paris Angels, ect.
mix) , Pram, ect.
Bivouac, Senser, ect
song on the EP as well as 4 other earlier videos.
videos by House Of Love. Ride, My Bloody Valentine, Momus, Times,
Primal Scream, ect., w/ nice bits inbetween.
by Kitchens of D., Sugarcubes, Heartthrobs, Shamen, Finitribe, They
Might Be Giants, ect.
VAUGHN OLIVER: "Exhibition/Exposition 1Feb/11march'90" book min. bid $20.00
SIMON REYNOLDS: "Blissed Out" Book (Serpent's Tail/UK) w/ v23 cover
Anatomy Calendar 93 (4AD/UK-XAD2020) 4AD 1993 Calendar in box / mint
Nineteen 90 Calendar (4AD/UK-XAD001) 4AD 1990 Calendar in box / missing
CATHERINE WHEEL:"Chrome" promo/US 2 sided--ballet swimmers/band (18"x24")
DEAD CAN DANCE: "A Passage In Time" promo/US LP-artwork/v23 (16.5"x 23")
DEAD CAN DANCE:"Into The Labyrinth" promo/UK LP cover/v23 (16.5"x23") $5.00
MY BLOODY VALENTINE:"Loveless" promo/US LP artwork w/ band photo (23"x35")
PALE SAINTS:"Half-life" promo/US EP artwork/v23 (16.5"x 23") $5.00-tack holes
PALE SAINTS:"Flesh Baloon" promo/UK EP artwork/v23 (16.5"x 23")$5.00-tack holes
PALE SAINTS:"In Ribbons" promo/US album inside cover/v23 (18"x 24")
PALE SAINTS:"In Ribbons" promo/UK album cover-ish/v23 (16.5"x 23") $5.00
RED HOUSE PAINTERS: "2nd LP" promo/UK album cover/v23 (16.5"x 23") $5.00
THIS MORTAL COIL:"Filigree & Shadow" LP artwork/unofficial (17"x 25")
V23 POSTER SET (XAD23) w/ specialtube (16.5"x 23"-A2) Min.bid $15.00 mint
Posters from the first 4AD poster set (WAD23)
-- all have tack holes, but in prime shape otherwise $3.00 ea. (12"x17")
CLAN OF XYMOX: "S/T & A Day"
COCTEAU TWINS: "Aikea-Guinea"
COCTEAU TWINS: "Head Ovewr Heels/Sunburst & Snowblind"
COCTEAU TWINS: "The Spangle Maker"
COCTEAU TWINS: "Tiny Dynamine & Echoes In A Shallow Bay"
COCTEAU TWINS: "Victorialand"
LE MYSTERE DES VOIX BULGARES: "S/T"
MODERN ENGLISH: "Someones Calling"
THIS MORTAL COIL: "Sixteen Days"
THIS MORTAL COIL: "It'll End In Tears"
XMAL DEUTSCHLAND: "Incubus Succubus II"
23 ENVELOPE POSTCARD SET (PAD23) series of 12 mint cond. min bid.$12.00
RED HOUSE PAINTERS: "Down Colorful Hill" $1.00
THIS MORTAL COIL box set of 3 cards min. bid $3.00
MORE AUCTION SPECIFICS:
Item will be awarded to the person holding the highest bid as of 11:59pm
PST on Sunday Oct. 13th. There are no limits on bidding frequency or
quanities. Winning bidder will be responsible for shipping charges
which will be calculated at the end of the auction. All winning bids
must be paid in cash, money order, or personal check (sorry no trades...).
p.o. box 1483
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:03:06 -0400
Could someone please repost the URL for info on the "pure-impure" list?
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:34:15 EST
On Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:54:00 -0700 beswick
>On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Cameron Byrd wrote:
>> depressing music, Dead Can Dance has the two must depressing songs I've
>> ever heard: The Wind that Shakes the Barley and I Lay Stretched on your
>I agree that I Am Stretched on Your Grave is depressing, but I think
>Sinead's version is way superior and more depressing than Brendan
>warbling. Sounds like he's singing to his dead hamster, for all the
>emotion he gives the song.
The minimal emotion was something I liked about the DCD version. After
listening to the lyrics, my image of the type of person that would be singing
this would be someone who is beyond expressing emotion in their voice - sort of
zombie like. Brendan Perry's measured statements make it clear that hope is
behind and the future is no different than the present bleakness.
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:11:49 -0700
>Perhaps it is this same primal
>impulse which compels us to experiment with the relatively new-fangled
Actually (to be Mr. Pedantic) Usenet is almost certainly older than
listservs -- the Hacker's Dictionary says Usenet was first implemented in
1980, and I don't recall ever seeing any automated mailing lists prior to
the late '80s. Certainly none where a bot would subscribe or unsubscribe
you. There were mailing lists back to the dawn of time but you always
wrote to Joe-Bob the moderator and said "Hey Joe-Bob, please subscribe
What's interesting is that the user interface for reading netnews has
leapt into the space age (sort of; Netscape's user interface is wretched)
but there's been no corresponding advance for mailing lists, which still
get treated as generic email.
On the other hand, the whole design of Usenet came from a world where
you have a couple of thousand users at a few dozen sites, most people
know each other, there's no need for security or authentication. People
are constantly predicting The Death Of Usenet but I can't see it lasting
much longer without a real redesign. I gave up reading it over a year ago.
I basically agree with your discussion. I consider the major advantage of
mailing lists to be that they require some effort to subscribe to -- you
have to hear about the list and you have to send mail to subscribe. This
can be a pain, but it means that (a) you don't get as many people just
passing through and posting random abuse; and (b) there's somewhat more
of a sense of community, a sense of the list as a real place.
Well, on with our regularly scheduled discussions of musical trivia.
__________ ___________________ ________________________
Jens Alfke Recovering C++ User firstname.lastname@example.org [work]
Goodnight stars Goodnight air Goodnight noises everywhere
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 03:31:03 -0500
I have an extra copy of the My Bloody Valentine album "This Is Your
Bloody Valentine". I'm willing to part with it, but only by trade.
Stuff I want are:
Anything rare by HNIA, Pixies, Throwing Muses, Pale Saints. Also, I
would also be willing to trade for a copy of the 13 Year Itch CD and My
Bloody Valentine's "Ecstasy and Wine". If you have any questions about
the CD, e-mail me privately..
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:20:46 +0200
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:35:48 +0200
This definitely isn't my cup of tea. On 'Polyester Day' Gus Gus sound like
'Pills 'n Thrill's'-era Happy Mondays!
Wasn't it Lydia Lunch who said about this sort of music that's just like
drinking water, it's so easy! (and it has all been done before)
'Polydistortion' clocks in at 7'50", so I assume it's an edit from the
version on the GUS 2 promo 12" version.
Oh, the artwork of the 12" is nice. Reminds of those very early posters
Benoit Hennebert did for Crepuscule and some of his sleeves for Paul Haig.
GUS GUS 'Polyester Day' 12"
A1. Polyester Day
A2. Gun (Husmix)
GUS GUS 'Polyester Day' CDsingle
BAD 6013 CD
1. Polyester Day
2. Cold Breath '79 (Crystalized)
3. Polyester Day (Late)
Who said the singer, Hafdis Huld, looks like Bjork?? You must be mad! If she
looks like Bjork, the guy on the right from her on the band photo looks like
P.S. The Tanya Donelly EP 'Sliding & Diving' (BAD 6018) will be out on
November the 25th.
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:37:09 -0400
On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
> Subject: Re: question about 4ad-l itself
> Actually (to be Mr. Pedantic) Usenet is almost certainly older than
> listservs -- the Hacker's Dictionary says Usenet was first implemented in
> 1980, and I don't recall ever seeing any automated mailing lists prior to
> the late '80s. Certainly none where a bot would subscribe or unsubscribe
> you. There were mailing lists back to the dawn of time but you always
> wrote to Joe-Bob the moderator and said "Hey Joe-Bob, please subscribe
krazy. one of the texts for the class (whole internet catalogue)
talks about listserv/bitnet as the dinosaur--that it grew out
of the IBM mainframe culture of the late 70s... and that
Usenet grew out of the later emerging UNIX culture.
IBM needing authentication and privacy, and UNIX being
in its conception a format designed for rapid sharing of
info and group projects...
another bone of contention just revealed to me in class last
night is that there are (i'm told) _several_ moderated
usenet newsgroups. duh....
i had no idea, because all of the newsgroups i read are
alt.something. i guess that there are news.somethings
and sci.somethings which arent nearly as spamtastic
as the alt.groups.
fortunately i was being ambitous, and the actual due-date
of the paper isnt until 2 weeks from last night.
aaaaah. once again, milk and kisses to all of you listies
who have taken the time and interest to help me out
with this. along with the paper i've added an appendix of
sample postings from both 4ad-l and alt.music.4ad.
if you have objection(s) to having your posts from last week
used as examples of how fantastic this group is, please
lemme know, and i will make sure that you and your
goods are not mentioned.
ich bin dan email@example.com
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of saphoo
that thoughts acquire speed,the lips acquire stains, the stains
become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
--Mentat Piter de Vries of the Great House Harkonnen
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 09:35:56 -0700
Scenic is playing the following shows:
Los Angeles October 17 at Spaceland, with Acetone and Radar Bros.
(Strobe Magazine Night)
Portland October 19 at Roseland Theater with Sky Cries Mary,
Purfume Tree and Malacoda (NXNW showcase)
| Dewdrops Records | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 | A Dewdrops Compilation |
| Los Angeles, CA 90066 | Winter 1997 |
| www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html |
> Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:57:40 -0400
Ingebrigtsen" at Oct 8, 96 12:20:46 pm
> > > Has there been a new release after the, uhm, "Wide Awake" mini album?
> > When was this released? I had thought that "Ray" was the last thing they
> > had put out?
> It was released, I believe, late last summer. I don't recall what
> label it was on -- it was definitely not on Virgin (they were booted
It was released on a label called 'Pinkerton'. Actually, the disc is
labeled as PinkCD1, so it might be Tim Freeman's own label.(?)
I concur with the previously posted assessment - not bad, but really only
for a Frazier fan. Not as strong as Ray.
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:20:20 -0400
Hi- about that auction~
Belly CD- $5
Cure CD (either Fascination st. or Never enough)-$5
Red House painters "I am a Rock" promo-$5
Dreams and Desires V/A cassette-$4
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:43:20 -0500
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>the soundtrack to "the hunger" does not have bauhaus on it boo hoo... at
>least the copy i saw.
for those who keep referring to "the hunger" sdtrk...is it still being made? i
certainly can't find it anywhere.
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:56:40 -0700
Ok, I know these have been partially or fully posted already, but I went
through all the trouble of writing it down and remembering to bring it to
the lab with me...so these are the tracks of the gusgus stuff:
BAD 6013 CD
I think Husmix (with a little accent mark over the u) means house mix...
another piece of wonderful Holmes-ian detective work by