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Subject: Michael Brook on Channel 1
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:47:27 -0700
From: Layne McLean (laynemc@SNOWCREST.NET)
Subject: Re: no mail
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 06:01:42 +0200
From: Jon Kvebaek (jon@ORIGO.NO)
Subject: Re: huge sale or trade
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:17:53 -0600
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Underground Lovers book
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:41:29 +1000
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: Underground Lovers
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:47:12 +0100
From: Geoffrey Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: Michael Brook on Channel 1
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:05:44 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: What is Victoria's secret?
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:24:44 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:25:59 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:26:34 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:46:54 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Butter 'O Eight
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:19:21 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: ACHTUNG! notlisty/Marilyn Manson
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:02:55 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:20:30 -0500
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:24:04 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:52:00 -0700
From: Emily Pollard (emily7@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Inspector 12
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:21:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:12:39 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: FFlying Pickets
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:00:35 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: get your moods right (was:depressing music suggestions)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:00:00 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:16:32 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Inspector 12
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:41:32 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fond Afexxions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:24:24 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Inspector 12
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:25:57 -0700
From: Binh (binh@arkay-intl.com)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:59:39 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Polyesterday for tomorrow....
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:53:09 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: FOUND: MOOD PROVOKING MUSIC FOR WINTER
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:34:19 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Red House Painters tour
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:18:04 -0400
From: "Larry P. Rosen" (perfectp@NICOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:01:41 -0400
From: Nathan Medema (ay642@freenet.carleton.ca)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:39:53 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: vinyl/CD sale (some 4ad content)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:56:42 -0400
From: Ted Watkins (fhw2n@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:42:38 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: RE underground lovers, guernica
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:13:24 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:47:27 -0700
From: Layne McLean (laynemc@SNOWCREST.NET)
Subject: Michael Brook on Channel 1


Hello everyone,

Channel one is a news program that is offered to schools free (TV's
included) in return for the school watching their daily news program (plus 3
minutes of commercials, must pay for this somehow).


Anyway, yesterday they did a story on the whale that is "Free Willy".
During the piece they played Michael Brook's "Shona Bridge" in the background.

I play a game with my students because Channel one always plays popular
music in the background of their stories.  The game is that I can guess what
band is playing before any of them can.  Well, this was a no-brainer for me.
I was very impressed to hear 4AD music here.  I have had Michael Brook as
the "daily artist" in class already this year.  Some of my kids remembered
seeing his name on the board.  They got extra credit!

I think tomorrow we might hear a little Kristin Hersh.

Layne McLean
Director of Student Activities
Foothill High School
laynemc@snowcrest.net

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 06:01:42 +0200
From: Jon Kvebaek (jon@ORIGO.NO)
Subject: Re: no mail


CHRISTIAN H HANSEN writes:

CHH> no mail christian hansen

It looks like you posted your so-called "no mail" to the entire 4ad-list...

--
"We are an elitist conspiracy."

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:17:53 -0600
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: huge sale or trade


I would love to see your complete list of items.  Could you send it
to me?

Ben T. Willardsen
bwillard@xmission.com


     From: rsabota
     Date: 10/2/96  9:03:40PM
     To: 4ad recording artists list
     Subject: huge sale or trade

     I would like to put up the following items for sale or trade:

     7" singles
     AD 6 Modern English "Swans on Glass"
     AD 8 In Camera "Final Achievement"
     AD 204 Happy Family "Puritans"
     AD 6007 HNIA "Universal Frequencies"
     AD 6009 Lush "500" (clear red vinyl)
     AD 6019 Lisa Germano "Small Heads"
     Pale Saints "a thousand stars.."
     ESP Beetles, ESP Family, Inspector 12 (Warren Defever)
     Modern English "Drowing Man" (pre-4AD release, 1979 Limp
     records)

     12" EPS
     BAD 19 In Camera "IV Songs"
     BAD 205 In Camera "Fin"
     BAD 208 Modern English "Life in the Gladhouse"
     BAD 306 Modern English "Gathering Dust"
     BAD 401 Modern English "Chapter 12"
     Control Panel 02 Warren Defever 12"
     Cocteau Twins interview LP BAK 2016

     CD
     BAD 5003 CDK Belly "Super-connected"
     Breeders "Saints" (Canada)
     GUP 3 CD Guernica Sampler CD

     Stuff
     V23 Exposition book (lots of cool pics)
     Lisa Gerrard tour programme
     CAD D 703 Lonely is an Eyesore LP book (not the whole package-
     just the
     book)

     reasonable offers accepted

     I'm looking for the following and will forward very tempting
     offers:

     axis 4 shox "no turning back"
     bad 11 various "presages"
     ad 102 past 7 days "raindance"
     ad 103 my captains "4 track ep"
     cad 107 mass "labour of love"
     ad 112 halkett/jay "nothing"
     bad 115 dance chapter "chapter 2"
     bad 116 dif juz "vibrating air"
     bad 203 ash "tones on tail"
     ad/bad 215 colourbox "breakdown" (the FIRST one)

     I don't subscribe to the list, so please reply to me by e-mail
     personally
     (inquire about other items if you wish
     I have lots of promo, limited edition, deleted, etc.)
     rsabota@mem.po.com


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:41:29 +1000
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Underground Lovers book


Brant wrote:

>The UK version of the album did not have the 4 Guernica
>tracks. I'm happy to report that yes, they are still
>together, having recently released an album called
>Rushall Station on their own label, Mainstream Recordings.
>Not only that, but Vincent Giarrusso has put out a booklet
>of lyrics from (it seems) just about every UL song. It's
>called "Rushall Station, lyrics and other writing",

I will just blow my own trumpet here for a second by saying that I did the
layout and design for this project (though it is very "straightlaced",
Vincent wanted a book like a Faber & Faber poetry collection).  However,
it's nowhere near all of the song lyrics.  There is a listing of the
contents at the semiofficial Underground Lovers website - it's a selection
from their total output.

The (slightly dodgy-sounding) URL is


Their new album is not very experimental sonically, but has some
exceptionally good songs.  Very laidback for a lot of it.  As I mentioned
earlier, they're playing at our magazine launch this weekend, which is
quite a favour to us!

                        Matthew.

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:47:12 +0100
From: Geoffrey Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: Underground Lovers


>The first is, what is the deal with Underground Lovers?
> What did they release prior to Leaves Me Blind (is that the right title?) ?

They released an album in 1990, self-titled.

> Is that their only release by Guernica/4AD?

'Leaves Me Blind' was released on Guernica, which was (I think) a one-album
deal.

> Their US debut (Dream It Down?) was on Polydor, but contained about 4 tracks
> from the prior album...

I've seen this in second-hand stores - it is a compilation of their 1994 album
'Dream It Down' and 1992's 'Leaves Me Blind'. 'Dream It Down' lives up to
its title - it is very acoustic/mellow (with strings, etc), while 'Leaves Me
Blind' is more of a guitar noise kind of album.

> So are they no longer with 4AD?  And are they still together?

The Undies are now on their own label Mainstream (quite an ironic name,
IMHO), and are still together (although keyboardist Philipa left last year).
In fact, Underground Lovers released an album in April this year called
'Rushall Station' which is in the vein of 'Dream It Down'. I even got singer
Vincent & guitarist Glenn to sign my copy at an instore appearance!

Check out http://iinet.net.au./~hardcore/undergroundhomepage.html if you
want any more information.


Cheers,
Geoff

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:05:44 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Michael Brook on Channel 1


At 08:47 PM 10/2/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>Channel one is a news program that is offered to schools free (TV's
>included) in return for the school watching their daily news program (plus 3
>minutes of commercials, must pay for this somehow).
>
>
>Anyway, yesterday they did a story on the whale that is "Free Willy".
>During the piece they played Michael Brook's "Shona Bridge" in the background.
>
>I play a game with my students because Channel one always plays popular
>music in the background of their stories.  The game is that I can guess what
>band is playing before any of them can.  Well, this was a no-brainer for me.
>I was very impressed to hear 4AD music here.  I have had Michael Brook as
>the "daily artist" in class already this year.  Some of my kids remembered
>seeing his name on the board.  They got extra credit!
>
>I think tomorrow we might hear a little Kristin Hersh.
>
>Layne McLean
>Director of Student Activities
>Foothill High School
>laynemc@snowcrest.net
>
>

dan-
that's so cute!! Also, on a bitchy note, she's churning out the good music
addicts that the industry needs.

lil' kid: 'ms. mclean, i believe that's the morales mix of mariah carey's
'always be my baby''

TONIGHT'S reason for going to bed late is that Lissy and Miguel called me.
There's also a hurracane (sp?) Hernan that's hitting mexico.

enough,
oteran
oteran@shrike.depaul.edu

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:24:44 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: What is Victoria's secret?


In a message dated 96-10-02 22:36:31 EDT, you write:

<< By the way, any comments on the "Small Heads" EP?
  >>
I love it.  I think Fun, fun for Everyone is classic Lisa.  But why is that
the accoustic version?  Where is the regular version.  Love Tom, Dick , adn
Harry TOo.  I adore Lisa.  Worship her :)  Much better than the Paladins :(

Aaron

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:25:59 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


In a message dated 96-10-02 02:08:06 EDT, you write:

<< I forgot--The Medusa album by Clan of Xymox often brings me to tears.
  >>

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:26:34 -0400
From: Aaron Hill (Fan4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


In a message dated 96-10-02 02:06:37 EDT, you write:

<< I always make sad tapes to listen this time of year.  On 4AD, I think that
Lisa Germano, Heidi Berry, Red House Painters, Lisa Gerrard, and Tarnation
are pretty depressing.  But you should also check out Ida, Caroline Lavelle
(with the most depressing song ever, "Sleep Now"), Tori Amos,  Low, Black
Tape for a Blue Girl, Breathless, Black Rose, Anchorage, Mazzy Star,
 Collection D'Andrea-Arnell, Joy Division, and anything on Hyperium's
Heavenly Voices compilation.

 Sadly yours, Aaron >>


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:46:54 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD


Dez wrote:

>AD3 Bauhaus - Dark Entires (7"). Three chord thrash, but effective. Their best
>single bar Bela Lugosi

'Bela Lugosi'!! I remember the day I first heard this 12" in a record store.
What's it? 17 years ago?


>CAD13 Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (LP). Patchy, but still their best album.
>AD113 Matt Johnson - Burning Blue Soul (LP). Recently reissued as a The The LP,
>he never topped this.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. And, although they were never on 4AD,
I hope you'll agree with me that The Cure haven't done a proper album after
'Pornography'?

Frank
(old man on the 4ad-l)


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:19:21 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Butter 'O Eight


    Lysa Bellott wrote about Butter O'eight
    What is this? Who is this? Info and opinions please...thanks, Lysa

  Waht I know about butter08 is that they contain members of Cibo Matto
and the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, which members I couldn't tell you
though. They played at the CMJ festival recently and got a good review
in the NME for their troubles. Should suit your tastes if you like either
of the bands whose members contribute.

Steve.
S.A.Hipkiss@bham.ac.uk


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:02:55 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: ACHTUNG! notlisty/Marilyn Manson


On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, princess dragonlisa wrote:

> I have no patience for people who a) purposefully try to be as revolting
> as possible or b) are just degenerates plain and simple. They fit into
> one of those categories. Gwar is one thing, but MM is just plain
> biologically revolting. They're worse than "computer geeks trying to be gross,
> " It's more like immature 6 year olds in the bodies of twenty somethings
> with too much spare time on their hands...

        i think that MM have taken up the mantle cast off by
        thrill kill kult circa sexplosion. purposefully trying to
        be as revolting as possible not only provides lots of
        laughs for the band and some of their more astute listeners,
        but also serves an important purpose:

        making bob dole, the pmrc, most xtians, and
        similar brainless lowlifes see red (and pitchforks
        and horns).  i think that MM and groups like them
        tap into the idiotic fears and paranoias of
        certain aspects of society and channel that power
        into something worthwhile: entertainment. and sometimes
        they can even use that power for something
        (dare i say it?) transcendental.  take the song
        'burning dirt' by tkk for example...

        indeed to each his/her own, but i think it a bit rash
        to write marilyn manson off as juvenile satanmongers.
        the music is terrific, in the dictionary sense.



              *****************************************
              ich bin dan              owilde@umich.edu
              *****************************************

 It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of saphoo
    that thoughts acquire speed,the lips acquire stains, the stains
     become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

          --Mentat Piter de Vries of the Great House Harkonnen


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:20:30 -0500
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


>
> Hiya:
>
> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
> need something to sink into besides snow.
>
> Shivering in Canada,
>         Nathan

here are my suggestions...

     low - "i could live in hope"
     the cure - "faith"
     the cocteau twins - "victorialand"
     this mortal coil - "it'll end in tears"
     soul whirling somewhere - "eating the sea"
                               "everyone will eventually leave you"
     ride - "nowhere"

well... soul whirling somewhere is good for any time of year, imho.

jason


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:24:04 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD


Dez wrote:

> BAD11 Various - Presages (12") Compilation of unsigned bands.
> Spectacularly dreadful, although it does contain Red Atkins only vinyl
> outing (till the box set, that is)
What do mean "till the box set, that is"???  Don't you have the Red
Atkins limited edition CD box set that 4AD put out in a limited edition
of 13?  Catalogue number - XAD 5018 CD.  It features Red's cover of
Thompson Twins' "Hold Me Now"...

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:52:00 -0700
From: Emily Pollard (emily7@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


>
>I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
>by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
>need something to sink into besides snow.
>
>Shivering in Canada,
>        Nathan
>
>
>

What others deem depressing, I find inspiring and beautiful. Check out The
Cure's "Disintegration" and "Faith" - no make-up pop there. Also try Cranes
"Wings of Joy" and "Forever". For the ultimate, try Lycia's "Ionia" and "Live"
on the Projekt label. Tell me what you think!
>
>--

>


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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:21:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Inspector 12


>7" singles
>Inspector 12 (Warren Defever)

Never heard of this. What the hell is it?

Franc

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:12:39 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


The Cure:  "Faith", "Pornography", some of "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me", and
"Disintegration"

Dead Can Dance:  "Spleen and Ideal", although I find it hard to get
depressed by DCD, when they tend to inspire and provoke thought more than
sadness.

This Mortal Coil:  "It'll End In Tears", "Filigree & Shadow"

Depeche Mode:  Many of their songs can be depressing, but nowadays I listen
to them and think, "This is pretty cheesy."

Joy Division:  "Love Will Tear Us Apart", "Atmosphere", and their music in
general.  "Closer" is pretty sad.

Mojave 3:  "Ask Me Tomorrow"

Red House Painters:  "Down Colorful Hill", "Rollercoaster" album, "Bridge"
album....well, okay, nearly all their music.  "Ocean Beach" and "Songs For A
Blue Guitar" aren't that sad, IMHO.



Mike
iceblink@tiac.net


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:00:35 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: FFlying Pickets


Can anyone give me any information on how I can get a hold on one of their
2 CD's anywhere?  They're an a capella group from the late80's/early 90's.
If anyone has a CD they want to trade, let me know what your'e looking
for.


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:00:00 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: get your moods right (was:depressing music suggestions)


I've been reading with interest the suggestions given to Nathan Medema
and it seems to me that some people here are confusing sadness with
depression. and others simply consider every song that is slow and quiet
to be depressing. these two qualities are neither sufficient nor necessary
for real depressing music. OK . I'm a little out of line here. it is not my
place, of course, to tell people what they should feel when listening to
a certain song. the point is: we all probably mean very different things
by the words "sadness" and "depression", and therefore we react very
differently to the same music.

-naor-
the man of a thousand moods - all bad.

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:16:32 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


love lies crushing
low
the sea and cake
old talk talk (ie: laughing stock, spirit of eden)
new cow boy junkies

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:41:32 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Inspector 12

              Oct 1996 19:21:28 +0200

>   >7" singles
>   >Inspector 12 (Warren Defever)
>
>   Never heard of this. What the hell is it?

Inspector 12 was the old lady who inspected men's underwear (was it Haynes or
Fruit of the loom?) and left that sticker in there to prove she'd been poking
around in your skivvies.

Oh, the music?  Idunno.

-cz


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:24:24 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Fond Afexxions


>>I looked out for the past issues, and I find out that they
published a 4ad tribute issue. Does anyone has more info on this one? Is this
publication still around?<<

I ordered this back issue about a year ago and never received it. My guess is
they are no longer.

Roy

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:25:57 -0700
From: Binh (binh@arkay-intl.com)
Subject: Re: Inspector 12


> >   >7" singles
> >   >Inspector 12 (Warren Defever)
> >
> >   Never heard of this. What the hell is it?
>
> Inspector 12 was the old lady who inspected men's underwear (was it Haynes or
> Fruit of the loom?) and left that sticker in there to prove she'd been poking
> around in your skivvies.
>
> Oh, the music?  Idunno.
>
> -cz


--
Binh


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:59:39 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


<<<<

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:53:09 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Polyesterday for tomorrow....


I just received a copy of BAD 6013... Gus Gus' Polyesterday.  It is
BRILLIANT!!  For all of you still reeling from the Paladins (Not my
favorite, but I agree with the statement "you can't please all of the
people all of the time") this should renew and reinforce INFINITELY your
faith in 4AD.  This band does trip hop better than Tricky and Massive
Attack combined...the song is catchy and poppy and deserves more than
anything released on 4AD this year (except Lovelife, of course) a GREAT
deal of commercial success.

There are also 2 promo 12"s, Gus 1 and Gus 2, and a 12" of BAD 6013
containing a b-side not on the cd (Gun).  I haven't heard these yet, but I
have no doubt they'll be just as good if not better than the cd.

I also got TAD 6017, Ruthie's Knocking.  1 track...1 side.  Not really
economically efficient, I suppose, but the sleeve and the artwork are
pretty incredible.

Anyone know when the full length of Gus Gus is due?  Is it February '97?

Strick9


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:34:19 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: FOUND: MOOD PROVOKING MUSIC FOR WINTER


love lies crushing
alio die
low
the sea and cake
old talk talk (ie: laughing stock, spirit of eden)
new cow boy junkies
elysian feilds (jenifer charles)
perfume tree
julee cruise
soundtrack to "the hunger"
damage (david sylvian/robert fripp)

just a few more for your drift into the snow....

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:18:04 -0400
From: "Larry P. Rosen" (perfectp@NICOM.COM)
Subject: Red House Painters tour


I haven't been reading the list in a while, so I don't know if this has
been posted
yet.  Would someone (re-)post the Red House Painters tour, please?  I just
saw them last night in Washington DC.  Unfortunately they were the opening
band
and so were only given 40 minutes, about 4 - 5 songs.  They sounded sloppy
at the beginning but then settled into a good groove.  Lots of free-form
guitar
solo's as expected.  They were pretty loud.  Sorry, no song list.  They did
do
"New Jersey" pretty well.

I heard they may be playing in Roanoke Virginia on Nov. 1.  Can anyone fill
me
in as to where, etc.

Thanks.

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:01:41 -0400
From: Nathan Medema (ay642@freenet.carleton.ca)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


Thanks for all your suggestions...I'll be spending an awful lot of time
in record stores this winter.

Saw a copy of the Doom Generation soundtrack, and was surprised with the
amount of thislisty bands on it...Lush, Cocteau Twins, Curve, Slowdive, Love
and Rockets, Jesus and Mary Chain, Wolfgang Press.

Has anyone heard this soundtrack yet? Is it worth picking up?

Nathan


--
Nathan Medema (aka...well, Nathan Medema)       ay642@freenet.carleton.ca

          *** "If you're so special, why aren't you dead?" ***
                                -The Breeders, "I Just Wanna Get Along"

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:39:53 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


><<<<     Definately on crack. It took me a good while to 'get' Charm of the
>Highway strip. I listened to it a couple of times and didn't really like
>it. I thought, "More of that American Indie stuff.". Then, literally
>one afternoon, I listened to the songs and the wierd, interesting
>instrumentation and slightly sad feel and I listened to it every day for
>a few weeks. What I especially like is the quality of songwritting. "Fear of
>Trains" comes immediately to mind. But "Lonely Highway" and "Long Vermont
>Roads", songs # 1&2, are impressive. Of course, I'm from jackson (Miss.) and
>I live in Vermont...
>
>     I just got The House of Tomorrow EP and it will have to grow on me.
>(Usually a good sign.)
>
>                                           Pat Crimm

I would highly reccomend hearing the original version of "Crowd of Drifters",
which Susan sang on.  It sounds much different than the version on _Charm..._.
Course, it's hard to find (it's on Doctor Death's Volume IV).
Also, on the House of Tomorrow EP, the track "Technical (You're So)" has always
sounded to me like a blatant (more so than normal) rip-off of David Bowie's
"Rebel Rebel."  Just speed it up a bit, and boom, it's Rebel Rebel.  Also, both
songs share very similar androginy lyrics.  Anyone else hear it?
--gary


Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:56:42 -0400
From: Ted Watkins (fhw2n@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: vinyl/CD sale (some 4ad content)


some techno/trance/ambient/acid 12 " s for sale..
these items do NOT include shipping - I will give an estimate
for shipping when you send your request (usually $1.5-3 total)
most of these are brand new copies that have not been played
unless otherwise mentioned- I'm selling them because I've received
multiple copies from my buyers.

Jon of the Pleased Wimmin- Give Me Strength UK12 (Perfecto) $7
Hardkiss Compilation- Delusions of Grandeur DLP -contains MANY classics
        and is a must have if you don't have the 12"'s!!! $10
Anethum- Silence is a Rhythm Too UK12 (trance on Brainiak- includes
                Peter Lazonby remix) $7
Killing Joke- Democracy UK12" (with Hallucinogen RMX(GOA)!!!) $7
                        (on Butterfly/Dragonfly)
Bill & Ben- 10" of Funk (ltd 10" on Harthouse- etched on one side)
                $7
Lenk- Mystic Remixes (12" on Planet Rhythm) $7
Mole People- Break Night/Ocean US12" (Strictly Rhythm- Armand V.Helden)
                        $4
CJ Bolland- Camargue RMX- old 12" on R&S $7
CJ Bolland- Neural Paradox Belg12" (recent on R&S-2copies) $7
Cwithe- Karmachanics (Symbiosis) UK 12"  GOA $7
Bubble - Squeak UK12" (Jackpot) Progressive Trance $7
Evolution- Genetic Engineering UK12" (Spirit Zone) GOA $7
Syb Unity Nettwerk- Tripperspaced UK12" (Transient DV) GOA $7
Razors Edge- Exquisite Sin UK LP (Metropolitan) Hardtrance
                compiles their best $12
Dara and the Shooter- Schizophrenia US10" (Smile) techno/jungle $4
Marco Zaffarano- Pandora's Box Ger12" (MFS) MZ meets MFS $7
Wave Shaping Age- World in Trouble 12"(Influence) Hardtrance $7
Damon Wild- Subtractive Synthesis III US12"(Synewave) techno $4
Acid Cowboys- Wimmin US12"(Sorted) $4
DJ Pierre- Mind Bomb US12"(Strictly Rhythm) $4
Mundo Muzique- Andromeda BEL12" (R&S) classic track from IOTD4 days
                        $7
Death in June: Oh how we Laughed (1st ed on EYAS- blue cover)
                        M-/M- (LP) $25 OBO

CD prices include cost of shipping!
Cocteau Twins CD single box set with otherwise unreleased tracks
                contains 10 CDs  $45 (limited ed- excellent cond)
Readymade- URO breaks UK CD $12 (on Wau Mr Modo)- see Trance Atlantic
                        vol1 for reference
Depeche Mode- Personal Jesus/Dangerous CD5 $5
Schnitt Acht- Subhuman Minds CD $8 hard edge industrial
Church of Acid- Modulator CD single $4 (techno)
Grace Darling: s/t CD (pre Cest la mort release on sardonic
                sounds) $6
Shelleyan Orphan- Humroot $9 CD
Inanna- not.hing- on Dark Vinyl $14 import- brand new copy.
808 State - Ex:el CD $9
Harthouse- Point of No Return  Chapter 1 CD $12 (I believe this one
        may be out of print now)
FUSE- Dimension Intrusion (nice stuff on PLUS8 ala Richie Hawtin
        aka Plastik Man) CD $10
Sven Vath - Accident in Paradise CD $12 (import version with
        different cover art that US version - very elegant trance
        and ambient tunes)
Tresor II various artists compilation CD $9 (bangin techno including
        Vainquer- LYOT Maurizio mix)
the following are on Wax Trax before the takeover by TVT- to the best
of my knowledge, several are currently unavailable.
KMFDM-Don't Blow Your Top CD $10 (second CD release)
KMFDM-What Do You Know Deutschland? CD $10 (first release)
KMFDM- Vogue CD5 $5
KMFDM- Money/Bargeld CD5 $5
KMFDM- Help Us Save Us Take Us Away CD5 $5
Excessive Force- Conquer Your World CD $9
Excessive Force- Blitzkreig CD5 $5
Thrill Kill Kult (My Life With the...) Sexplosion CD5 $5
Thrill Kill Kult- Sex on Wheelz/Dream Baby CD5 limited to 200 copies
                        $8
Emigre magazine featuring 4AD circa 1987-88: full layout on 4ad at the
time with interviews, discography, graphic art, and other goodies
unique to this publication- taking bids starting at $50

contact me before sending money to ensure that the item is not
already sold.
contact fhw2n@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

if the price is too high- make an offer
*=claimed but not paid for- still taking offers

--
__________________________________________________________________________
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability
of the human mind to correlate all its contents." HPL
__________________________________________________________________________


Ted Watkins
304 14th ST NW Apt 6
Charlottesville VA 22903
fhw2n@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

"Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation, is
inherently purging.. It makes a man a king!" JG

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:42:38 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Nathan Medema wrote:

>
> Saw a copy of the Doom Generation soundtrack, and was surprised with the
> amount of thislisty bands on it...Lush, Cocteau Twins, Curve, Slowdive, Love
> and Rockets, Jesus and Mary Chain, Wolfgang Press.
>
> Has anyone heard this soundtrack yet? Is it worth picking up?
>


The soundtrack's swell...just don't see the piece of shit movie. :)

Strick9


Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:13:24 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)
Subject: RE underground lovers, guernica


On Wed, 2 Oct 1996  Gregory Lawrence Smith 
Asked



>what is the deal with Underground Lovers?  What did they
>release prior to Leaves Me Blind (is that the right title?) ?  Is that
>their only release by Guernica/4AD? Their US debut (Dream It Down?) was
>on Polydor, but contained about 4 tracks from the prior album...  So are
>they no longer with 4AD?  And are they still together?

Try http://iinet.au/~hardcore/undergroundhomepage.html
It has some fairly up to date info on the band.

David Boughey
dboughey@dest.gov.au