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Subject: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:37:14 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 00:03:46 -0400
From: Paul Murphy (lildog@HIGHWAY1.COM)
Subject: 4AD and The Paladins relations - look, it's pure fun.
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 20:25:31 -0000
From: troutcat@snet.net
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:40:38 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Rough Trade on the web
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:02:22 -0700
From: Michael Buck (mbuck@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:59:19 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:53:33 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:32:02 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: underground lovers, guernica
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:38:33 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: THE GLEE CLUB
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:48:01 CST6DST
From: ROSAS BORJA GUILLERMO JOSE (AE24146@PRO.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: OLD BANDS ON 4AD
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:42:32 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@VOXEL.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:12:38 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:56:24 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:37:38 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: bauhaus
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:06:16 -0500
From: Kevin Sheridan (KSHERID@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:53:54 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:30:14 -0700
From: Emily Pollard (emily7@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Mai Pen Rai
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:31:22 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:57:04 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: CT Techno...
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:51:30 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:24:05 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: CT Techno...
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:23:45 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:32:27 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:15:59 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Butter 'O Eight
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:43:39 -0500
From: Lysa Bellott (dijit@NS.ACADIACOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:39:21 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: Marilyn Manson
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:22:21 -0500
From: princess dragonlisa (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Melbourne launch of our magazine
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:49:50 +1000
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Fond Afexxions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:05:01 -0600
From: PATINO MORELL MARCO A (dg084252@UDLAPVMS.PUE.UDLAP.MX)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:34:21 -0500
From: Lysa Bellott (dijit@NS.ACADIACOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:21:13 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: What is Victoria's secret?
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:39:29 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Re: Raissa
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:21:50 +-200
From: EITAN SHAVIT (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: huge sale or trade
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:40 -0400
From: rsabota@MEM.PO.COM
Subject: Re: Thorn and Watt do aerobics!
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:48:04 -0500
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)
Subject: no mail
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:17:56 -0400
From: "CHRISTIAN H. HANSEN" (chanse01@medlib.iaims.georgetown.edu)

Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:37:14 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


    I picked up a Cd from Magnetic Feilds (The one with "I Have the
Moon") last month and It's really a lot like the Crash Test Dummies,
but at least the lyrics are alright.

Anyone here think that Marilyn Manson are a bunch of computer geeks
trying to act gross? But I have to say that "Anti-Christ Superstar" is
the best album name ever.

                            Brian

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 00:03:46 -0400
From: Paul Murphy (lildog@HIGHWAY1.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


Nathan Medema wrote:
>
> Hiya:
>
> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
> need something to sink into besides snow.
>
> Shivering in Canada,
>         Nathan
>
> --
> Nathan Medema (aka...well, Nathan Medema)       ay642@freenet.carleton.ca
>
>           *** "If you're so special, why aren't you dead?" ***
>                                 -The Breeders, "I Just Wanna Get Along"
Try REM automatic for the people (will make you wanna kill yourself)
j.j.

lildog


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:09:04 +0500
From: Dmitri Bender (db@MARK-ITT.RU)
Subject: 4AD and The Paladins relations - look, it's pure fun.


So, I happened to know a guy who knows someone from The Paladins - guess
you'll be interested to see what he's written to me yesterday.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 20:25:31 -0000
From: troutcat@snet.net I was interested to read that you heard that The Paladins were "the worst band signed to 4AD EVER." I didn't know it when I wrote to you last time, but yes, it's the same band. Actually, this is pretty funny. I met one of those guys in August during a visit to San Diego. A friend of mine who was in The Beat Farmers asked their bass player, Thomas, what was new. Thomas replied that the Paladins had signed a deal with an English alternative label. The band could not really understand why the label - with which they seemed to have nothing in common musically - wanted to sign them, but the label guys insisted that they LOVED the band and really wanted them. So, they signed. After reading what you had heard from your 4AD mailing list, I learned that he was talking about 4AD! Sounds like the guys in the band are not the only ones confused about what the Paladins are doing on the label. Oh well, like Lincoln said, you can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. I agree with you and Horace that nothing's beautiful from every point of view. It's all music to me - 15 years ago I was happily drumming in a band called Radio Reptiles that sounded like The Who murdering Captain Beefheart songs, something very, very different from what the Bandidos are doing. --------- well, for crying out loud - that was 4AD who approached the band. duh. Dmitri

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:40:38 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


>Nathan Medema wrote:
>
> Hiya:
>
> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
> need something to sink into besides snow.
>
> Shivering in Canada,
>         Nathan

Try "One Last Laugh in a Place of Dying" by God Machine on Fiction Records
Brilliant but **depressing**

_________________________________________
"But I am not human.  And neither are you. And it is
 not our place to judge them.  I wonder why you do?"
_________________________________________

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Rough Trade on the web

          pure -impure 

Rough Trade now have a web site (www.roughtrade.com), from which you can
order all sorts of goodies, but be warned:

* Their prices are a bit steep even by UK standards.
* Their "enter your credit card details here" page is not at all secure,
  so you are better off sending some other form of payment, by post
  rather than electronic means.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
nja@le.ac.uk


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:02:22 -0700
From: Michael Buck (mbuck@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Nathan Medema wrote:

> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
> need something to sink into besides snow.

I've got to go with the 4AD 1981 Mass LP on this one.

Oh, wait, you said *CD*s. :)

Michael Buck
mbuck@netcom.com

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:59:19 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


try Nico's version of "the end"...and sharpen the razor balde beforehand!
On Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:40:38 +0100 Chris Limb  writes:
>>Nathan Medema wrote:
>>
>> Hiya:
>>
>> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic
>CDs
>> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
>> need something to sink into besides snow.
>>
>> Shivering in Canada,
>>         Nathan
>
>Try "One Last Laugh in a Place of Dying" by God Machine on Fiction
>Records
>Brilliant but **depressing**
>
>_________________________________________
>"But I am not human.  And neither are you. And it is
> not our place to judge them.  I wonder why you do?"
>_________________________________________
>


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:53:33 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


Are you on crack?  Magnetic Fields sounds like Crash Test Dummies?!
Please!  Listen to some different Magnetic Fields albums, maybe "Holiday"
or their latest one....maybe besides the deep voice, i don't see the
comparison at all...

matt


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:32:02 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


>>> I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic
>>CDs
>>> by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
>>> need something to sink into besides snow.
>>>
>>> Shivering in Canada,
>>>         Nathan

Depressing Winter CD's (This Listy)
1. The Cure- Pornography
2. Idaho- Year After Year
3. Dead Can Dance- Within The Realm of a Dying Sun
4. Cocteau Twins- Garlands
5. Red House Painters- Down Colorful Hill (just play Medicine bottle over
and over again)

John

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:38:33 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: underground lovers, guernica


Howdy.

I have two related questions.

The first is, what is the deal with Underground Lovers?  What did they
release prior to Leaves Me Blind (is that the right title?) ?  Is that
their only release by Guernica/4AD? Their US debut (Dream It Down?) was
on Polydor, but contained about 4 tracks from the prior album...  So are
they no longer with 4AD?  And are they still together?

Second question is: What was released on Guernica besides Underground
Lovers, Unrest, and Insides?  Is Guernica still around or was that little
project axed?

-greg


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:48:01 CST6DST
From: ROSAS BORJA GUILLERMO JOSE (AE24146@PRO.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: THE GLEE CLUB


What ever happened to THE GLEE CLUB?
Does anyone knows the discography?

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:42:32 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@VOXEL.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: OLD BANDS ON 4AD


   I've been wandering about the  bands that appeard on 4ad between
1980 and 1982, which of these bands are really good , their best
material , and what they sound like, and where can i get a copy of
their work?

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:12:38 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica


> The first is, what is the deal with Underground Lovers?  What did they
> release prior to Leaves Me Blind (is that the right title?) ?

They had one album before Leaves Me Blind, as I understand.
I've seen it in cutout bins every so often.

>  Is that
> their only release by Guernica/4AD?

Yes.

> Their US debut (Dream It Down?) was
> on Polydor, but contained about 4 tracks from the prior album...  So are
> they no longer with 4AD?  And are they still together?

The UK version of the album did not have the 4 Guernica
tracks. I'm happy to report that yes, they are still
together, having recently released an album called
Rushall Station on their own label, Mainstream Recordings.
Not only that, but Vincent Giarrusso has put out a booklet
of lyrics from (it seems) just about every UL song. It's
called "Rushall Station, lyrics and other writing",
and is available from Mainline Press in a limited run
of 500. You can contact them at mainstre@ozonline.com.au,
or write to them at PO Box 1203, Fitzroy North, Victoria
3068, Australia.

I just found their catalogue again, and they have all the old
UL stuff: Get To Notice was the first album from 1990. They also have
a late 80's 7", T-shirts, etc.

> Second question is: What was released on Guernica besides Underground
> Lovers, Unrest, and Insides?  Is Guernica still around or was that little
> project axed?

That Dog. Guernica hasn't released anything since Clearskin.

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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:56:24 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


If you want beautiful female vocals, and great, beautifully crafted pop
songs, please buy the first two magnetic fields albums on one CD.
"Josephine" and "100,000 Fireflies" will make you slap yourself for that
CTD comparison...

matt

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:37:38 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson

              "Matthew T De Bellis" at Oct 2, 96 09:53:33 am

> Are you on crack?  Magnetic Fields sounds like Crash Test Dummies?!
> Please!  Listen to some different Magnetic Fields albums, maybe "Holiday"
> or their latest one....maybe besides the deep voice, i don't see the
> comparison at all...

I concur.  I don't see the similarities at all, and The Charm of The
Highway Strip is an excellent album (I think that was the one he was
referring to).  Perhaps he should check out The Wayward Bus / Distant
Plastic Trees with Susan singing as a more gentle introduction to the
musical genius that is Stephen Merritt.  (100,000 Fireflies is still one
of my favorites.)

-greg

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:06:16 -0500
From: Kevin Sheridan (KSHERID@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU)
Subject: bauhaus


hi all. i am new to the list, but i joined in order to have another link to
bauhaus fans. i am building my catalog on the offshoots(dali's car, tones on
tail, murphy, ash, l n' r, etc.) i want to know if anyone has any rare bauhaus
imports they would like to share with me? i would appreciate it. please reply:
ksherid@uoft02.utoledo.edu
my name is kevin sheridan, and i would love to talk to anyone about music in
general, as well. thanks.
ks


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:53:54 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD


colourbox, all, unexplainable, good luck....

On Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:42:32 CST6DST PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO
 writes:
>   I've been wandering about the  bands that appeard on 4ad between
>1980 and 1982, which of these bands are really good , their best
>material , and what they sound like, and where can i get a copy of
>their work?
>

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:30:14 -0700
From: Emily Pollard (emily7@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


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>
>I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
>by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
>need something to sink into besides snow.
>
>Shivering in Canada,
>        Nathan
>
>
>What others deem depressing, I find inspiring and beautiful. Check out The
Cure's "Disintegration" and "Faith" - no make-up pop there. Also try Cranes
"Wings of Joy" and "Forever". For the ultimate, try Lycia's "Ionia" and "Live"
on the Projekt label. Tell me what you think!
>
>--
>Nathan Medema (aka...well, Nathan Medema)       ay642@freenet.carleton.ca
>
>          *** "If you're so special, why aren't you dead?" ***
>                                -The Breeders, "I Just Wanna Get Along"
>


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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:31:22 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Mai Pen Rai


I have never seen this mentioned here, but I
found out (from an unusual source-- Cat Fancy
magazine) that Mai Pen Rai (the name of the
now legendary 4AD promo CD packaged by IPR)
is the phrase "it doesn't matter" in Thai.
All along I figured it was probably "4 A D"
in some Asian language. Shows you what I know...

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| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:57:04 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica


> > Second question is: What was released on Guernica besides Underground
> > Lovers, Unrest, and Insides?  Is Guernica still around or was that little
> > project axed?
>
> That Dog. Guernica hasn't released anything since Clearskin.
>

spoonfed hybrid and bettie serveert


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:51:30 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: CT Techno...


I was minding my business last night sitting in a club, when suddenly this
techno song starts playing... with the intro bells from Lorelei playing
over it.  I was waiting to see if the whole song would play...but it then
went into the guitar riff from a Smiths song... I think it was Heaven
Knows I'm Miserable Now.  Does this sound familiar to anyone????


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:24:05 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: underground lovers, guernica


>
> > Second question is: What was released on Guernica besides Underground
> > Lovers, Unrest, and Insides?  Is Guernica still around or was that little
> > project axed?
>
> That Dog. Guernica hasn't released anything since Clearskin.
>
 Don't forget Bettie Serveert! =>


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:23:45 -0700
From: shar everett (sharlito@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: CT Techno...


you know i was in la about a week and a half ago in a club and heard
something like that - those crazy djs are always cutting things up and
trying to stick them here or there... i have heard numerous 4ad samples in
techno songs - they love to kipe and mix as well...


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:32:27 -0700
From: "BOYD, BRETTON" (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


1.  The Cure "Pornography"
2.  Phillip Glass Solo Works for Piano
3.  Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures"
4.  The Cranes "Wings of Joy"
5.  American Music Club "Everclear"
6.  The Fields of the Nephilim "The Nephilim"
7.  Godflesh "Pure"

Brett "Who confers with John, regarding his choices as well as recognizing
there are to many Gothy pics in my list--and the fact that the most depressing
music is not objectively depressing in nature, but rather a poignant
association between cruel life experiences and painfully beautiful music."

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:15:59 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: OLD BANDS ON 4AD


>   I've been wandering about the  bands that appeard on 4ad between
>1980 and 1982, which of these bands are really good , their best
>material , and what they sound like, and where can i get a copy of
>their work?

OK Perez, Here's the lowdown:
Everything is deleted unless stated

1980
AD1 Fast Set - Junction One (7"). Crap synth pop like early OMD, without the
tunes.
AD2 Bearz - She's My Girl (7"). Crap power pop.
AD3 Bauhaus - Dark Entires (7"). Three chord thrash, but effective. Their best
single bar Bela Lugosi
AD4 Shox - No Turning back (7"). More crap synth-pop.
BAD5 Rema Rema - Wheel In The Roses (12"). Goth rock, but quite good. Various
members went on to Adam & The Ants, In Camera, Mass and The Wolfgang Press
AD6 Modern English - Swans On Glass (7"). Two chord thrash, but a good song
nevertheless.
AD7 Bauhaus - Terror Couple Kill Colonel (7"). More gothic wailing, but not a
patch on Dark Entries.
AD8 In Camera - Die Laughing (7"). A bit Joy Division-y, but nonetheless
excellent stuff.
BAD9 Cupol - Like This For Ages (12") Gilbert And Lewis from Wire get all
avant-garde, and pompous.
AD10 The The - Controversial Subject (7") Matt Johnson's debut. He didn't
consider it worthy of reissue, but it's not that bad, and very rare.
BAD11 Various - Presages (12") Compilation of unsigned bands. Spectacularly
dreadful, although it does contain Red Atkins only vinyl outing (till the box
set, that is)
AD12 Birthday Party - The Friend Catcher (7"). Screeching feedback, churning
bass, an absolute masterpiece.
CAD13 Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (LP). Patchy, but still their best album. CD
contains all the singles too. Still available.
AD14 Mass - You And I (7"). Oh dear. Crap goth-rock.
AD15 Modern English - Gathering Dust (7") Bloody marvellous. All thrashing bass,
and hissing synths, but exciting nevertheless.
CAD16 Gilbert & Lewis - 3R4 (LP). See BAD9. CD (called 8 Time) includes BAD9 and
AD106.
(B)AD17 Bauhaus - Telegram Sam (7"/12"). Rubbish bolan cover, backed with a
really nasty John Cale cover (nasty as in very good indeed)
AD18 Dance Chapter - Anonymity (7"). Awful goth b-side, but fine spritely
a-side.
BAD19 In Camera - IV Songs (12"). More post-punk shenanigans, but a good
breadth. They had potential.

1981

AD101 Sort Sol - The Marble Station (7") Danish punks (The Sods) become Joy
Division fans. It's quite good, actually.
AD102 Past Seven Days - Raindance (7"). Kind of Gang Of Four meets Comsat
Angels. Six minutes of brilliance. They could have been a great band, but split.
AD103 My Captains - History (7"). Never heard this.
CAD104 Birthday Party - Prayers On Fire (LP). Sporadically brilliant
rockabilly/blues/swamp-rock. Still available.
CAD105 Modern English - Mesh And Lace (LP). Forget the final track which is
awful, this is Modern English's best LP, before they became a very ordinary
new-romantic pop band. Still available.
AD106 Gilbert & Lewis - Ends With The Sea (7"). Easily the best thing they did
for 4AD. It has a tune, and a clever atmosphere - almost like Labradford!
CAD107 Mass - Labour Of Love (LP). Ha ha ha ha
CAD108 Colin Newman - Provisionally Entitled the Singing Fish (LP). Twelve
quirky, but consistently interesting instrumentals, all called Fish. Still
available on CD with CAD201.
BAD109 Dif Juz - Huremics (12"). Durutti Column-ish instrumentals with more of a
rock setting. Dif Juz were ahead of their time (see Pell Mell, early disco
Inferno etc)
AD110 Modern English - Smiles And Laughter (7"). They were beginning to get a
bit formulaic.
AD111 Birthday Party - Release The Bats (7"). A classic - they don't make 'em
like this anymore (though lots of people try to)
AD112 Hackett/Jay - Nothing (7"). Nothing would be preferable to this bit of
codswollop.
AD113 Matt Johnson - Burning Blue Soul (LP). Recently reissued as a The The LP,
he never topped this. Another Boy Drowning is an astonishing song.
AD114 Birthday Party - Mr Clarinet (7"). Dates from '79 when the band were in
transistion from the off-kilter pop of 'Door Door' to the crawling chaos of
'Prayers'. Great song, though.
BAD115 Dance Chapter - Backwards Across The threshold (12"). Not heard this
either.
BAD116 Dif Juz - Vibrating Air (12"). Collected with BAD109 on the
still-in-print, vinyl-only Out Of The Trees. Just as good.
CAD117 Various - natures Mortes (LP). Very rare sampler for the Japanese market
collecting various bits and pieces from the above releases.

1982 - perhaps some other time.

The Birthday Party singles all come as extra tracks on their reissued CDs, and
most are on the brilliant 'Hits' compilation.
All the In camera stuff is on a CD called 13 (Lucky For Some)
The Modern English singles are all bonus tracks on their reissued CDs.
Of the tracks no longer available, the pick is definitely 'Raindance'.

All descriptions are, of course, ridiculously generalised, and terribly
subjective, but that's history for you.

- Dez

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:43:39 -0500
From: Lysa Bellott (dijit@NS.ACADIACOM.NET)
Subject: Butter 'O Eight


What is this? Who is this? Info and opinions please...thanks, Lysa


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:39:21 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Feilds/Marilyn Manson


I hope this isn't all you do at school?
At 09:53 AM 10/2/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Are you on crack?  Magnetic Fields sounds like Crash Test Dummies?!
>Please!  Listen to some different Magnetic Fields albums, maybe "Holiday"
>or their latest one....maybe besides the deep voice, i don't see the
>comparison at all...
>
>matt
>
>

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:22:21 -0500
From: princess dragonlisa (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Marilyn Manson


I have no patience for people who a) purposefully try to be as revolting
as possible or b) are just degenerates plain and simple. They fit into
one of those categories. Gwar is one thing, but MM is just plain
biologically revolting. They're worse than "computer geeks trying to be gross,
" It's more like immature 6 year olds in the bodies of twenty somethings
with too much spare time on their hands...

oh well. to each his own...

lisaroo

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:49:50 +1000
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Melbourne launch of our magazine


I realise this will only be interesting to south-eastern Australians, but
it *does* at least have a tenuous 4AD connection ...


Spleen magazine, that benchmark of self-financed quality publishing (well,
we think so) is having a launch for issue three at the Punters' Club in
Fitzroy (Melbourne) this Sunday evening, October 6th.

The headlining act will be none other than Melbourne's finest,

                UNDERGROUND LOVERS

plus support from Sydneysiders Kemosabe and Trillion.

Admission is a low eight dollars; part of the door goes to the magazine.
Issues of Spleen, together with some tasty and unusual items from the
Underground Lovers, will be on sale at the venue.  One show only, be there
earlyish to ensure entry.

Hope to see you there!

                Matthew Kirkcaldie,
                Spleen magazine.


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:05:01 -0600
From: PATINO MORELL MARCO A (dg084252@UDLAPVMS.PUE.UDLAP.MX)
Subject: Fond Afexxions


I was cheking out some old magazines and I found out Fond Afexxions
number 4 or something (it includes interviews with Slowdive and Kristin
Hersh). I looked out for the past issues, and I find out that they
published a 4ad tribute issue. Does anyone has more info on this one? Is
this publication still around?

Thanks in advance!

Marco

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:34:21 -0500
From: Lysa Bellott (dijit@NS.ACADIACOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


>
>I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
>by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
>need something to sink into besides snow.
>
>Shivering in Canada,
>        Nathan


'Disintegration'--The Cure
Wonderfully depressing all except Lullaby, Fascination Street, and Lovesong
(of course).

'Victorialand'--Cocteau Twins
Not depressing but an excellent winter-time album.

Lysa

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:21:13 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Depressing Music Suggestions


> >Nathan Medema wrote:
> >
> > Hiya:
> >
> > I'm wondering what people consider the most depressing/melancholic CDs
> > by 4AD (or non-4AD) artists...y'see, winter is rolling around and I
> > need something to sink into besides snow.
> >
> > Shivering in Canada,
> >         Nathan
>

Shelleyan Orphan's Humroot is pretty melancholy... and although the whole
album isn't depressing, Les Couers Jumeaux (sp?) and Why Don't You See Me?
from Concrete Blonde's Walking in London always bring me way down....

Strick9

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:39:29 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Re: What is Victoria's secret?


On Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:44:37 -0700, Jeff Keibel
 wrote:

>The singer/songwriter and multi-instrumentalist (who started out as John
>Mellencamp's fiddle player) has churned out three upright and beautiful
>albums (though that number would likely be four if her 1990 indie "On =
The
>Way Down From The Moon Palace" ever finds a sympathetic pocketbook to
>finance its distribution).

I got a copy of "Moon Palace" from CD Connection,
it listed. For anyone in need, it's worth a try.

By the way, any comments on the "Small Heads" EP?

Paul

Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:21:50 +-200
From: EITAN SHAVIT (eitan@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Raissa


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RAISSA are a group emerged only this year from England and released on
Big Cat Records early 1996.

The band are: Rice Khan-Panni - vocals and keyboards
                     Paul Sandrone - guitars, bass, drums, keyboards
                     Peluxe Help - tambourine
                     Dan Birch - programming

The album's called Sleeping Bugs, cat. no. ABB114CD.

As soon as I will find the bio's, I will add more details.
Anyway, I'ts worth checking out !


other bands on Big Cat: PAVEMENT, HEATHER NOVA (first album - live),
DIRTY THREE (just releasing a new album).

Their most recent release is Broken Dog (ABB121), which is a brilliant =
album
for all My Bloody Valentine fans - you better check this out !!!!

Kindly represented by Eitan of BNE RECORDS - ISRAEL, home of:
Big Cat, Matador, Restless, Pias, Crammed, Materiali Sonori, On Delancey =
Street, Cup Of Tea, Ninja Tune, Primavera, North South Records, =
Delirium,=20
Moving Shadow, Platipus, Big Life and more...

There is more yet to come...


        BNE - FEELING THE GAPS BETWEEN SILENCE AND NOISE


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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:40 -0400
From: rsabota@MEM.PO.COM
Subject: huge sale or trade


I would like to put up the following items for sale or trade:

7" singles
AD 6 Modern English "Swans on Glass"
AD 8 In Camera "Final Achievement"
AD 204 Happy Family "Puritans"
AD 6007 HNIA "Universal Frequencies"
AD 6009 Lush "500" (clear red vinyl)
AD 6019 Lisa Germano "Small Heads"
Pale Saints "a thousand stars.."
ESP Beetles, ESP Family, Inspector 12 (Warren Defever)
Modern English "Drowing Man" (pre-4AD release, 1979 Limp records)

12" EPS
BAD 19 In Camera "IV Songs"
BAD 205 In Camera "Fin"
BAD 208 Modern English "Life in the Gladhouse"
BAD 306 Modern English "Gathering Dust"
BAD 401 Modern English "Chapter 12"
Control Panel 02 Warren Defever 12"
Cocteau Twins interview LP BAK 2016

CD
BAD 5003 CDK Belly "Super-connected"
Breeders "Saints" (Canada)
GUP 3 CD Guernica Sampler CD

Stuff
V23 Exposition book (lots of cool pics)
Lisa Gerrard tour programme
CAD D 703 Lonely is an Eyesore LP book (not the whole package- just the
book)

reasonable offers accepted

I'm looking for the following and will forward very tempting offers:

axis 4 shox "no turning back"
bad 11 various "presages"
ad 102 past 7 days "raindance"
ad 103 my captains "4 track ep"
cad 107 mass "labour of love"
ad 112 halkett/jay "nothing"
bad 115 dance chapter "chapter 2"
bad 116 dif juz "vibrating air"
bad 203 ash "tones on tail"
ad/bad 215 colourbox "breakdown" (the FIRST one)

I don't subscribe to the list, so please reply to me by e-mail
personally
(inquire about other items if you wish
I have lots of promo, limited edition, deleted, etc.)
rsabota@mem.po.com

Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:48:04 -0500
From: hk kahng (hk@neosoft.com)
Subject: Re: Thorn and Watt do aerobics!


princess dragonlisa wrote:
> When I was at the gym the other day I passed by the aerobics studio and
> what should be playing but "Wrong" of of the new EBTG album, only at twice
> the normal BPM. It was a sad day, indeed. The sight of people doing
> street funk moves to the sound of a shrill distorted Tracey Thorn is just
> too heartbreakingly absurd!

Sounds like one of them funky remixes, although I can't begin to imagine
how "Wrong" would sound with its tempo doubled - its rhythm track sounds
manic enough as is.

Speaking of Everything But the Girl, or more appropriately Spring Heel
Jack, I just picked up the latest Tortoise remix 12", and it's kicking
my butt all ovah the place.  Sorta like a laid-back drum'n'bass spy
soundtrack or something.  Way cool.  Quite likely my favorite of the
three remix singles from 'Millions Now Living...' (with the UNKLE remix
coming in a very close second).

Yours in twitches,


hk
--
hk@neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
"hell hath no fury like an insecure englishman...." -- momus


Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:17:56 -0400
From: "CHRISTIAN H. HANSEN" (chanse01@medlib.iaims.georgetown.edu)
Subject: no mail


no mail
christian hansen