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Subject: Galaxie 500 box set & old stuff FS
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:15:19 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:12:17 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: NOTLISTY message for kevin lien:
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:26:51 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: ..seefeel..??
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:29:40 -0500
From: prayers for rain (rainboy@NET66.COM)
Subject: Re: Caroline no.
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:55:23 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: 13 best albums on 4Ad
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:37:38 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@VOXEL.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: thanks for playing
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:27:29 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Seely -- yesyesyes
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:00:15 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: ..seefeel..??
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:45:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: 13 best albums on 4Ad
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:55:07 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 13 best albums on 4Ad
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:00:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:27:38 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Swirlies contact request
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:50:03 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)

Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:15:19 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Galaxie 500 box set & old stuff FS


I second all the positive comments that were posted; it's an absolutely
gorgeous package. Sadly, G500 were on the verge of even more greatness when
all of a sudden...

Another fine release by Rykodisc. If this is any indication, I'm looking
forward to the Throwing Muses re-issue more than ever!

So, I guess all my old G500 CD's (including the ltd. edition package 3rd
album) and CD singles are for sale now; offers are welcome, but you might
as well just buy the box set! A bargain at $39! (not counting store credit
for hawked CD's...)

t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
----------------------------------->


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:12:17 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency


On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, WILDER GONZALES AGREDA wrote:
>
> >  3. Cocteau Twins - Domino
>
>         eerrr... ummm...
>
>             this is an inedit song!?? am i wrong?
>
>                 regards.
>
>                         Wilder.
>



        i think it's Donimo. last song on treasure.



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             ich bin dan              owilde@umich.edu
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                               ALIA
                        And how can this be?

                There are three powerful drum hits.

                            ALIA (CONT'D)
                 For... he is the Kwisatz Haderach!
--
          for complete transcript of david lynch's screenplay
      for D U N E, see http://www.dune.org/museum/docs/script.html


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:26:51 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: NOTLISTY message for kevin lien:


        sorry to do this on the list, but my provider has
        skillfully lost my sent-mail folder....

        anyways, Kevin Lien: i sent your tape out today:
        a thousand pardons for the delay.
        lemme know when it arrives (thursday?)




             *****************************************
             ich bin dan              owilde@umich.edu
             *****************************************

                               ALIA
                        And how can this be?

                There are three powerful drum hits.

                            ALIA (CONT'D)
                 For... he is the Kwisatz Haderach!
--
          for complete transcript of david lynch's screenplay
      for D U N E, see http://www.dune.org/museum/docs/script.html


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:29:40 -0500
From: prayers for rain (rainboy@NET66.COM)
Subject: ..seefeel..??


hello all..
    a friend of me has recently told me that based on the music i like
(slowdive, cure, lush, etc) that i would take an interest in seefeel...i
have yet to actually *hear* them, and i even have no idea of what they sound
like...so, if theres anyone kind enough in 4ad-land to help me with a brief
description of them, it would be fabulous...thanks in advance..

rainboy..so long so long.
____________________________________________________________________________
..but older than me now..more constant, more real..and the fur and the mouth
 and the innocence turned to hair and contentment that hangs in abasement..
         ..a woman now standing where once there was only a girl..
                                 *the cure*
____________________________________________________________________________
                  http://winslow.net66.com/~rainboy/index.html
____________________________________________________________________________


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:55:23 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Caroline no.


On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Alan Daniel wrote:

> > >
> > and virgin records is owned and operated by CAPITOL records. Capitol just
> > bought Matador records. they say that they will let them do what they
> > want, they will just better distribution. they are re-releasing two
> > pavement records and liz phair's exile in guyville. anyway...
>
> are you sure capitol bought matador?  i thought it was the same type of
>
it's a similar deal. matador does everything they used to do, caroline
distributes it. the next liz phair album is rumored to be on capitol...
**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:37:38 CST6DST
From: PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO (AR24051@VOXEL.GDL.ITESO.MX)
Subject: 13 best albums on 4Ad


I heard that once Melody Maker published a list of the best 13 albums
in 4AD and somebody told me that one of them was the Underground
Lovers album, wish are the other 12?


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:27:29 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: thanks for playing


i want to thank everyone for taking some time out to check out my www
magazine. the his name is alive trivia answer is ABRAHAM LINCOLN. i got
tons of really funny answers and some weren't even presidents... anyway.
the tape offer is still good.
i want to reitterate that only four people on this list are getting free
tapes. heather, and the three that got the trivia answer correct. if you
still want the tapes this is how the pricing goes:
losing money by giving so many away and spending quite a bit of my time
dubbing them. so please don't call me a scammer and all those names. i
just really like h.n.i.a and i know a lot of you do to, and you can't all
see them live.
 full package: (warren interview, low and mog live, and
then his name is alive live on two cassettes) $8.00 (u.s. currency only)

 half package: (either a tape w/ interview and low/mog or a tape w/
lincoln's name is alive live on one cassette) $6.00 (u.s. only)

 the no package: (contains absolutely nothing) import priced at only
$22.95 (again u.s. currency)...

my address for anyone who wants these lovely cassettes:
        (checks have to be made out to James M. Renaud)
        star vein magazine
        c/o james marceau renaud
        12419 canterbury
        warren (defever), michigan
        48093
please give me a return address so i can send them...expect a month to get
them.
**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:00:15 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Seely -- yesyesyes


Now, this is the way the universe is supposed to work! Last week I ask
for info about what new-Too-Pure-signing Seely sound like. Friday I come
home from work to find a promo copy of their new CD in the mailbox.
Reminder to all label reps on the list: I'll be expecting this to be the
way things work on. I'll be expecting Alison's Halo, Scala and that new
Swirlies album to show up this week, OK?
Seriously, thanks to Too Pure and their online dude here [dang! I've
forgotten your name, sorry!] for being so nice to us.

Oh yes -- what do Seely sound like? If I'd been clever I'd've brought in
the bio that came along with the CD and typed it in, because alone among
band bios that I've read it's actually interesting and describes the
music quite well. But.

Seely are interesting, in a subtle way. Much of the music I like
initially strikes me as very weird and it takes several listenings for it
to make sense. Seely are the other way around -- on first listening I
loved the album simply for the sounds and melodies, and on further
listenings noticed the oddities of the vocal harmonies and
instrumentation.
  Seely pull off the difficult task of making rock music that's neither
pop nor noise. The sound is fairly quiet and for instance the guitars are
mostly pretty effect-free, and the sound is pretty and the boy/girl vocal
harmonies are gorgeous. But the mood isn't happy and bouncy so much as
dreamy -- this is clearly shoegazer music but without the cliches of the
genre. The spaciness isn't derived from oceans of guitar fuzz or chorus,
it comes from the structures of the songs and the singing.
  Comparisons? Some of the singing reminds me of the Swirlies. Some of
the sweetness reminds me of early MBV, only not so sugary. And while
Seely don't really sound like Throwing Muses in any direct way, their odd
uses of guitar lines and the way the songs change partway through reminds
me in a very good way of the Muses' first album.

I have a meeting to go to so I'll cut this short. I'm really impressed
with this album, it has a lot of intricacy to it and it grows on me with
every listening. It's scheduled to be released in about two weeks, so go
for it...

__________          ___________________          ________________________
Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

                       L.A. CIGAR -- TOO TRAGICAL
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                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/

Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:45:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: ..seefeel..??


rainboy@NET66.COM writes:
>    a friend of me has recently told me that based on the music i like
>(slowdive, cure, lush, etc) that i would take an interest in seefeel...

Probably the best shoegazer reference would be later My Bloody Valentine.
If you like the way they're sampling guitar noise, looping it and
building structures out of it; and you like Bilinda's vocals; and if as
extra credit you like ambient-techno stuff, then you should run not walk
to your local record emporium to buy "Polyfusia" or "Quique" (preferably
the former as it's more recognizably guitar driven.) Their later stuff
("Starethrough", "Fracture/Tied", "Succour" is much more along the lines
of the Aphex Twin or Autechre, very cold and sterile-sounding. Can you
tell I don't like it as much?)

Another good reference would be Slowdive's "5EP", which was tacked onto
the end of the US release of "Souvlaki".

Just be warned that what Seefeel write are not _songs_, they're ambient
type thingies with melody and layering and some vocals but none of the
verse/chorus structure you expect from a pop/rock song.

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Jens Alfke          Recovering C++ User          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

       "Bobby, jiggle Grandpa's rat so it looks alive, please."
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:55:07 -0400
From: lee harvey fnordwald (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 13 best albums on 4Ad


On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, PEREZ GUTIERREZ JORGE HUMBERTO wrote:

> I heard that once Melody Maker published a list of the best 13 albums
> in 4AD and somebody told me that one of them was the Underground
> Lovers album, wish are the other 12?


        1)his name is alive: livonia

        2)dead can dance: the serpant's egg

        3)cocteau twins: victorialand

        4)his name is alive: home is in yer head

        5)his name is alive: stars on ESP

        6)this mortal coil: it'll end in tears

        7)various artists: lonely is an eyesore

        8)dead can dance: spiritchaser

        9)pixies: surfer rosa

       10)breeders: pod

       11)lush: gala

       12)his name is alive: mouth by mouth



        just kidding. but thanks for reading this far down the page,
        hahahahahah


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             ich bin dan              owilde@umich.edu
             *****************************************

         Paul smiles up at his father.  The WIND blows the
        Duke's hair and behind him stands the castle and the
        green and black Atreides banner against the night
        sky beyond.  The RAIN starts again -- lightly.  Paul
        takes a closer look at the Atreides banner moving in
        the wind.

                        DUKE LETO
                    (studying the dark sea below)
               I'll miss the sea... but a person needs
               new experiences... they jar something deep
               inside, allowing him to grow.  Without
               change, something sleeps inside us... and
               seldom awakens... The sleeper must awaken.

        Paul's attention goes to his father's hand where he
        sees the Duke's signet ring.  Again he smiles at his
        father.


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:00:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: 13 best albums on 4Ad


>I heard that once Melody Maker published a list of the best 13 albums
>in 4AD and somebody told me that one of them was the Underground
>Lovers album, wish are the other 12?

>From Melody Maker, July 24 1993:

Thirteen "Classic Landmark" Albums
Bauhaus 'In The Flat Field' (Oct 1980)
The Birthday Party 'Prayers On Fire' (Apr 1981)
XMal Deutschland 'Toscin' (Jun 1984)
Cocteau Twins 'Treasure' (Nov 1984)
Voix Bulgares 'Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares' (Apr 1986)
This Mortal Coil 'Filigree And Shadow' (Sep 1986)
Throwing Muses 'Throwing Muses' (Sep 1986)
Pixies 'Surfer Rosa' (Mar 1988)
The Breeders 'Pod' (May 1990)
Lush 'Gala' (Dec 1990)
Underground Lovers 'Leaves Me Blind' (Oct 1992)
Belly 'Star' (Jav 1993)
Red House Painters 'Red House Painters' (May 1993)


Frank




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Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:27:38 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency


>>  3. Cocteau Twins - Domino
>
>        eerrr... ummm...
>
>            this is an inedit song!?? am i wrong?
>
>                regards.
>
>                        Wilder.

Is it unreleased, you mean? No, the track is from _Treasure_.


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:50:03 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Swirlies contact request


A while ago, someone on 4ad-l wrote me
personally about trading tapes with Damon
of the Swirlies. Could that person write me
back? Thanks!

Brant, looking forward to Seely in a big way...
Too Pure guy-- are you still here? Send me an email...

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