Subject: Re: more 4AD goodies for sale
Subject: Re: you guys make me sick
Subject: Re: Jo Wiggs.
Subject: Harold Budd may get into Hell after all.
Subject: Re: you guys make me sick
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency
Subject: Seely
Subject: Re: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: Re: Caroline no.
Subject: Re: Origins of Serpentskirt
Subject: Re: new m7x?
Subject: Re: Seely
Subject: Re: new m7x?
Subject: Re: Caroline no.
Subject: cut-out bin
Subject: Re: Origins of Serpentskirt
Subject: not so many 4AD goodies left
Subject: Spell check e-mail programs
Subject: Hutt-ing the Carloine
Subject: Re: new m7x?
Subject: Sensualists
Subject: Mellencamp has to die
Subject: What is Victoria's secret?
Subject: Re: Hutt-ing the Carloine
Subject: The Wolfgang Press lives!
Subject: Re: A Delicate Dependency
Subject: Nicolette
Subject: HNIA means???
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:33:02 -0500
At 10:58 AM 9/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
>It's amazing the stuff that turned up during our move.
>All of this was offered and even claimed a while back,
>but after repeated emailings, the original buyers
>flaked.
>
>2 All Virgos Are Mad posters
>the tall and thin variety listing the performances $5 each
>
>1 4AD July 1994 catalogue $10
>
>1 DCD Spiritchaser tourbook with CD $12
>
>1 Breeders Divine Hammer CD single BAD 3017 CD
>
>1 LIAE wooden box (just kidding!)
>
>All prices include postage.
>
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>
hey brant-
i'll take a all virgos are mad poster for $5 if still available. let me
know if u have any left.
oscar teran
oteran
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:02:49 -0700
> you guys make me sick
>
> the boy in zinc ([email protected])
> Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:29:13 -0500
>
> alright, it's been more than 36 hours since the galaxie 500 boxed set
> hit the stores and not one of you heathens has mentioned it.
heathens? us people who already had all the lps and the singles? oh, i
don't know, you young whippersnappers.
8)
anyway, is somebody going to post a track listing for it?
andy
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:17:57 +0000
On 26 Sep 96 at 17:03, Steven Hipkiss. commented informatively about
"Jo Wiggs." :
> Was reading a review of the CMJ festival in the NME and there was
> a mention of Josephine Wiggs playing in a couple of bands. One, The
> Josephine Wiggs Experience, had her on vocals with two of Luscious
> Jackson and a bassist. They were said to be minimalist in a Breeders
> vein.
>
> The other, The Kostars, had Josephine on drums with one of the
> Luscious Jackson people on vocals. These were said to be more like
> the Cardigans.
Well not sure about the Cardigans comparison. I have two Kostars
records. The single Hey Cowboy which came out in '95 as a seven inch
on red vinyl with a shiny sticker and the LP Klassics with a K which
came out this year. Both were on Grand Royle. IMO Hey Cowboy is the
best track on the LP which is very very pleasant strumming guitar
based pop. One of the records spendign a lot of time on my stereo
during the very brief Manchester summer. I think on the LP Josephine
Wiggs mainly acts as a producer (this is from memory). At he same
time as the single was release, Grand Royle released another single
by Ladies Who Lunch - Kims we love, which has a much more direct
Josephine input, she being one half of the Ladies Who Lunch. It
included versions of Somic Youths Bull in the Heather and the Pixies
Giganitic played in kiddie keyboards. Both singles were recommended
by some kind soul on this list.
Hope this is useful
Richard
Richard Clemens
Faculty of the Environment, University of Salford, Salford UK
[All details with the excption of the name and the University are subject
to change in the near future. Exact details are unkown at the time of
going to press the send button]
"The fantastic is in league against me"
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:16:02 -0700
Who exactly are Gus Gus, and how can I make sure I *never*, EVER hear them?
Harold Budd has a new song, from his upcoming album Luxa, on the CD that
comes with the October issue of Future Music. Unless you count anything
on his last two albums, it is the worst shit he has ever put his name on.
Here's the catch--he pulls this off with neither the enhancements of his
poetry nor the aid of Andy Partridge or Hector Zazou. It kind of defies
description but I will try: Some jabby little piano chords (two, to be
exact) with a very ugly sound, hideously sappy, breathy keyboards
repeating over that, and some uninspired light percussion and fretless
bass. It is a HORRIBLE song, it marks the end of my relationship with
Budd's music, and represents one of the worst falls I can think of over
any time period. A fall of Xymox magnitude. What a mess. What is wrong
with this man?
If you need convincing, maybe you should buy the magazine and save
yourself $7. On the other hand the rest of the CD is almost as bad.
*sigh*
The forces of evil are in full control this year. If I could guess which
Presidential candidate they supported I would put money on him.
e
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:08:37 +0100
96 09:02:49 am
Andrew Dean Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:45:45 -0400
>VARIOUS ARTISTS
>"A Delicate Dependency: Music For Vampires"
>Mercury/PolyGram Group Canada
>Tentative Instore Date: October 9
>
>This album is the soundtrack to a darkly romantic lifestyle; black=20
>clothes, crushed red velvet, dying roses and the music of the children of=
>=20
>the night.
This concept is a bit cheesy, but it shows that Polygram understands there's
money to be made from one thing: the fact that we still have lots of goths
up here. Unfortunately.
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:11:26 -0400
>>I just want to reiterate that Seely is a really great band and "Julie Only"
will officially be released sometime in October.<<
Yes they are! Release date is October 15 to be exact. For those lamenting the
loss of the 4AD sound (and even the too pure sound), you may want to check
this out. Shields/Butcher-esque harmonies, punchy rhythms, occasional guitar
drone, etc.
This band is going places.
>>it was recorded in Chicago with the guy (the name escapes me right now)
from Tortoise.<<
John McEntire. The production was very good on 'Parentha Sea', this is even
better. Cleaner, tighter, more live. The drums are recorded much better
especially, allowing you to hear just how good Seely's rhythm section is.
This is one of the bands strong points in my opinion.
>>locally released CD "Parentha See"<<
'Parentha Sea' is still worth a purchase. I've seen three different versions
of the cover, each with a different color.
I believe 'Julie Only' will have 4 additional tracks as well.
I've no stake in them, I just think that they are really good. Best thing out
of Georgia since...
Jimmy Carter.
;o)
Roy
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:40:23 -0400
because heather interviewed warren with me. you all didn't. i owe her for
her excellent questions that made the interview that much better... plus
if you answer the question correctly on the web-zine then you do get one
free.
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Tom Weibrecht wrote:
> huh...why not send it 2 everyone
> On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:14:45 -0400 "James M. Renaud"
>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:46:46 -0400
> >>I don't know if caroline is a major-in-disguise, but they could have some
> sort of exclusivity-of-contract
> agreement worked out w/virgin...<<
> Caroline is an arm of Virgin.
> Not nnneeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrllllyyyyy an indie label at all.
> Bye,
> Roy
>
and virgin records is owned and operated by CAPITOL records. Capitol just
bought Matador records. they say that they will let them do what they
want, they will just better distribution. they are re-releasing two
pavement records and liz phair's exile in guyville. anyway...
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:10:52 -0400
oh, there is too a cocteau twins e-mail list...we are talking about making
t-shirts for it. i think that would be kool for this group. a whole bunch
of people would turn there designs into a certain person and the winner's
design would be taken and t-shirts would be made. they would be fifteen
bucks for two-colour shirts. i am so friggin busy, and normally i would
try to organize this... it would be kool i think because a lot of the
people on this list (including me) are way into graphic design...plus how
many times do i go to a 4AD show and tell people, "oh i'll be the guy in
the detroit tiger cap and the cordorouy paints and t-shirt." anyway...i
hope this doesn't sound too cheesy...
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:52:04 EDT
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:25:46 -0700 cz
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:52:04 EDT
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:11:26 -0400 Roy Burns
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:06:48 EDT
>
> How does a band that has it's cd's in the cut-out bins get another album
> deal? Different label? Or do they self-produce?
>
a label prints too many copies of a release, so they sell them as cut-outs
to cover their costs. it happened with the live cure cd's that came out a
couple of years ago(show and paris?). the cure are still on elektra.
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:00:26 EDT
> >
> and virgin records is owned and operated by CAPITOL records. Capitol just
> bought Matador records. they say that they will let them do what they
> want, they will just better distribution. they are re-releasing two
> pavement records and liz phair's exile in guyville. anyway...
are you sure capitol bought matador? i thought it was the same type of
deal 4ad has with warner. also, what two pavement records were out of
print. i know pavement was adamant about their stuff being released
only on matador with no help in distribution from atlantic.
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:25:17 -0500
> How does a band that has it's cd's in the cut-out bins get another album
> deal? Different label? Or do they self-produce?
>
> Carol
Well, the Cure had quite a few recordings in the cut-out bin as of
late. Depeche Mode too. And yet these behemoths keep putting out
albums. The cut-out bin doesn't always imply crap--hey, I got Swallow's
_Blowback_ cut-out. Sometimes a band just doesn't get support from the
label (eg Big Star). RoadRunner isn't exactly the best label for Moon7x
to be on--a lot of metal, etc.
--gary
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:55:24 PST
good idea
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:10:52 -0400 "James M. Renaud"
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:28:58 -0700
The DCD book and both AVAM posters are now sold.
Remaining are the Breeders CD and the 4AD 1994 catalogue.
Also, I know I ask this every few years, but would
anyone be interested in the Pixies Dolittle poster pack?
If you are, you have to convince me I want to sell it,
since it IS kinda cool and I'm not sure I want to part with it.
| Dewdrops Records | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 | A Dewdrops Compilation |
| Los Angeles, CA 90066 | Winter 1997 |
| www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html |
> Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:59:59 -0700
Carloine is to Virgin US what Hutt is to Virgin UK.
Because I'm just learning English, these mistakes get by me. Caroline is
what I meant and of course, I actually meant Hut.
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:53:04 -0700
Carloine is to Virgin US what Hutt is to Virgin UK. With Capitol
distributing Matador now, does this mean TeenBeat stuff will now be
TeenBeat/Capitol releases? Rolling Stone had a big article a few months
back about the Matador/Capitol deal.
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:27:03 -0700
27 Sep 1996 12:06:48 EDT
> > How does a band that has it's cd's in the cut-out bins
> get another album
> > deal? Different label? Or do they self-produce?
someone else offered:
> a label prints too many copies of a release, so they
> sell them as cut-outs to cover their costs.
Yes, i've always considered that to be the origin of "cut-outs" as well so i
can't believe that Area was even in a cut-out bin at all since C'est La Mort was
sold out of almost all the Area CDs even before Woody called it quits. You may
have seen a few of these in the used CD section. In fact, that's the only place
i can find them at all. There's been a decent amount of demand for Area CDs
because some of them are rather hard to find and have been out of stock for
ages. So it isn't too surprising that Projekt is considering rereleasing them,
as they did the excellent Controlled Bleeding CD, Songs from the Ashes, which
was also on C'est La Mort.
-cz
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:28:45 -0500
just got "Love songs.." etc .Rather nice effort, but lacks in originality
department. Will do well if you are "heavenly voices" fan and enjoy organic
guitar/synth ethereal stuff.solid musicanship, DCd rythms, dreamy guitars,
celestial vocals-we've heard it all before... Will appeal to late
Bedazzled, Shellyan Orphan, Ars Poetica etc etc fans. The band sells the CD
for $13.50, the earlier tape release is out-of-print.
Boroda
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:08:50 -0700
It ain't easy being Lisa Germano. The sensitive, Indiana-based singer/
songwriter and violinist has faced off against ace musicians and
producers, earning high praisefrom the likes of Brian Eno - not usually
known as a resevoir of enthusiasm - and releasing three critically
acclaimed discs on England's 4AD label. But it's still a struggle.
For one thing, the masses haven't coised up to her pale, poignant tales
of introspection the way industry spin doctors, eyeballing the upward
spiral of Tori Amos' career, had predicted. Her beautifully spun latest
disc, "Excerpts From A Love Circus", follows the same trajectory,
sampling the contented purr of Germano's cat Miamo-Tutti for good
measure.
And despite her solo accomplishments, Germano can't shake the connection
to former boss John Mellencamp, even though her ambient pop has more in
common with Public Enemy than Mellencamp's backwards roots-rock. If
Germano seems to be truly enjoying herself at the Horseshoe Saturday
(September 28) opening for Weeping Tile, it's because she's playing to a
crowd that couldn't care less about her past associations with the music
biz's tiniest tyrant.
"My past work with Mellencamp is a complete, 100 per cent, total
drawback. It's horrible," sighs an otherwise chipper Germano down the
line from her home. "For some reason, everybody seems to have to mention
that, as if to justify that I exist."
"It's like what if the bass player from Hootie and the Blowfish put out a
solo record and it got a four-star review in Rolling Stone? If they
mentioned his former band, I wouldn't read it. Maybe it's just me.
Maybe I'm an asshole because I wouldn't care about any member of Hootie
and the Blowfish. But when I see reviews about me that begin by citing
my being in Mellencamp's band, I think 'Oh god, nobody's gonna read it
further!'"
"Maybe," she chuckles slyly, "Mellencamp has to die. But do I shoot him
or poison him?"
from Now magazine
Sept. 26 - Oct 2, 1996
Vol. 16; No. 4
Toronto, CANADA
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:44:37 -0700
Lisa Germano writes the kind of songs you can pull under the covers with
you on days when you can't even pull yourself out bed to answer the
phone. She also writes songs for the week later when you're back to
burning dinner and laughing with your best friend. But would you expect
anything less from the woman who named her publishing company Emotional
Wench?
The singer/songwriter and multi-instrumentalist (who started out as John
Mellencamp's fiddle player) has churned out three upright and beautiful
albums (though that number would likely be four if her 1990 indie "On The
Way Down From The Moon Palace" ever finds a sympathetic pocketbook to
finance its distribution).
In the mind of its maker, Lisa's latest, "Excerpts From A Love Circus"
(4AD/PolyGram), is a day off from work compared to 1994's "Geek The
Girl", a harrowing album some may recall for the punchy, laconic "Cancer
Of Everything" and the frightening "A Psychopath", a song about a
stalking that includes a 911 recording of a woman with an intruder inside
her home.
Though none of the new songs are nearly as disturbing, the darkness is
still there and the humor is even more noir this time around. While she
readily admits songs like "I Love A Snot" and "Lovesick" are based on
derailed relationships from her past, Germano also insists "Love Circus"
isn't a personal album - at least in the diary sense.
"Maybe there's something wrong with me, because everybody thinks it's
personal," she says from her house in southern Indiana. "The record is
personal, but to me the word personal means things like your clothes,
your hair or your boyfriend's name. Sometimes when I write songs, I'll
have specific things in there. When I'm trying to figure out what the
song is about, I'll step away to where the things become feelings. At
that point, it's like, 'This really isn't so personal.'"
Compared to many current female musicians who are marketed by their
femaleness (which in some cases horrifically amounts to the old "not bad
for a girl"), all the while inundating us with wretched, angsty lyrics
and desperately trying to prove how tough they are, Germano could be seen
as the ultimate feminist. Besides the fact she doesn't list off all the
instruments she plays on her albums, "because I figure people will know I
played them anyway," she's also not afraid to show her vulnerability and
goffiness both in her voice and words, which actually takes far more guts
than the angriest tirade.
One such moment on "Love Circus" is "Victoria's Secret", an atmospheric
piano-laced song in which she's mocked by the models in America's most
notorious lingere catalog. This could very well be the only song in
existence that's heady, droll, sad and ethereal all at once. But that's
just Lisa Germano.
"If you're in a good mood and you're getting along fine with the person
you're with, then it's a fun magazine to look through," she says. "I've
looked through it and thought, 'Ooh, I like this,' or 'Mmmmm, he'd really
like that.'"
"When I wrote that song, I'd recently been dumped. I was really bummed
out and I thought, 'Maybe someone wrote to me today, maybe I got mail.'"
So I went to the post office and there's this slap in the face. The
magazine's there and it's like, 'Ha ha, you don't look like me. Nobody
likes you. Your boyfriend thinks you're boring.' So it was like,
'What's their secret anyway?' On a bad day, you just didn't ask for
that."
written by Erin Hawkins
from Eye magazine
Sept. 26, 1996
Vol. 5; No. 50
Toronto, CANADA
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:44:36 +0200
> With Capitol
>distributing Matador now, does this mean TeenBeat stuff will now be
>TeenBeat/Capitol releases?
The Teenbeat-Matador deal (TEENBEAT 163) is for about 8 Teenbeat groups
only, and will expire this December, as far as I know. Versus already
backed-out (now on Caroline!), Tuscadero signed to Elektra, and Uncle Wiggly
was a one-off. Air Miami are.... well, so what's left: Phil Krauth, Cath
Carroll, Blast Off Country Style and Olympic Death Squad. I don't think any
of these bands/artists will have something new out on Teenbeat this year.
Watch out though for the upcoming Butch Willis & The Teenbeat Allstars
'Superstitious Mummies' CD!
Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:59:01 -0800
FROM THE 4AD NEWSGROUP:
this is andrew gray, one of the songwriters of the wolfgang press. the
wolfies, who consist of, michael allen and myself, are currently working
on new material. unfortunately we are no longer on 4ad records but we
are seeking a deal of some sort. mick and I are still living in london
but my wife, karey and I are visiting los angeles at the moment.
if i could get a copy of the 12" kansas remix i would but i do not even
have a copy, it is very rare!
it was good to see this correspondence on the internet
take care
andrew
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:42:01 EDT
> >VARIOUS ARTISTS
> >"A Delicate Dependency: Music For Vampires"
> >Mercury/PolyGram Group Canada
> >Tentative Instore Date: October 9
> >
> >This album is the soundtrack to a darkly romantic lifestyle; black=20
> >clothes, crushed red velvet, dying roses and the music of the children of=
> >=20
> >the night.
>
> This concept is a bit cheesy, but it shows that Polygram understands there's
> money to be made from one thing: the fact that we still have lots of goths
> up here. Unfortunately.
>
is it going to be available to us sometimes-nostalgic-for-our-youth down here
in the states?