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Subject: you guys make me sick
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:29:13 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-The Site
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:41:43 +0100
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: ex-Swallow
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:17:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: HOT 4AD ITEM FOR SALE!!!
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:11:12 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Sidi Bou Said - Live in Manchester
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:26:38 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: G500
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:47:23 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: ex-Swallow
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:39:55 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: A Delicate Dependency
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:34:04 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: New Signing? Thrush...
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:12:33 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Jo Wiggs.
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:03:48 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Paladins explained for Limeys
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:47:54 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:13:37 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: more 4AD goodies for sale
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:58:50 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:13:48 -0400
From: Daniel Corriveau (corr@WIDOMAKER.COM)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:41:30 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site - Seely
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:26:34 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Seely
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:25:20 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins explained for Limeys
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:34:42 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 4AD signs The Sensualists?
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:49:08 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 4AD musical horizon...
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:36:32 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: new m7x?
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:25:46 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Origins of Serpentskirt
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:54:52 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Red House Painters w/John Cale-Toronto!
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:20:55 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)

Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:29:13 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: you guys make me sick


alright, it's been more than 36 hours since the galaxie 500 boxed set hit
the stores and not one of you heathens has mentioned it, so here i go...

picked it up yesterday (as everyone should have done)...missed the g500
boat the first time around, but i've been a fan of luna and that pierre
etoile stuff for awhile...about a month ago i found "on fire" used for $8
and i've been listening to it ever since (it makes really good post-breakup
music -- depressing yet optimistic at the same time)...on to the boxed
set...

it's all here, folks...all three albums, all the b-sides, the three-track
self-released demo tape, the cbgb's single and a bunch of outtakes...throw
in four videos and a booklet with each member of the band contributing a
bit of writing, and you've got quite a deal for only $42.99 (and to think i
paid almost that much for a digest compendium of the tortoise's world -- 1
cd)...

listened to all the cds yesterday, loved 'em...watched the videos today and
they were sublime, though i can see why they don't play 'em on mtv...my
favorite was the video for "tugboat."  it's all washed out 35 mm shots of
trees, shoes, faces, etc...the end of the video is a montage of things
blowing up...it kicks ass...

the packaging is a lovely purple box with that famous painting (i forget
the friggin' name!) that features all of the constellations -- in
silver...the individual cds have portions of the painting "the wonder of
the heavens" on 'em...also in purple...

as far as the book goes, there are some really nifty photos of the band,
old posters, etc...damon's piece and naomi's piece are the more
interesting/emotional of the two...both sort of describe the transition
from being someone in a band for the fun of it to becoming a "serious"
musician...

for those non-collectors-who-already-have-all-the-stuff types, this boxed
set is a (relatively) inexpensive way to enter the melencholy,
introspective and dreamy world of galaxie 500...enjoy...

BiZ

"wake up, see the sun...what's done is done..."
        -ride "today"

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:41:43 +0100
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: 4AD-The Site


At 14:16 25/09/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes we know the site has not been updated in a long time. The reason for the
>delay is that we are reconstructing the site.  We have moved it to a

hi Rich,

have you some responsibility on the 4ad site?

it's not bad, but please, could you avoid to open it with a +40k bitmap?

thanks, L.


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:17:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: ex-Swallow


Hey all!
look at what they've got at Parasol:

Busy Going Crazy   Halfway in Light ep  (Whitelines)
cool, beat-heavy grooves from ex-swallow (4AD) Mike Mason

Intriguing! Any comments?
Salute
Boroda


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:11:12 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: HOT 4AD ITEM FOR SALE!!!


Hi.

  I'm new on the list so I apologise if this has been answered before,
but who are the Paladins? Seen nothing of them in the English music
press (NME & MM), but that isn't suprising these days as 4AD acts don't

get much mention unless they are one of the bigger acts.

  Also I was looking at www.evo.org at future releases. One coming album
from the Jive Bombers(?), as well as the Pixies Debaser Ep and a Pixies
album. Anyone know anything about these?

  Thanks, Steve.
S.A.Hipkiss@Bham.ac.uk

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:26:38 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Sidi Bou Said - Live in Manchester


Well  as part of my therapy to try and forget how awful work is I
went of the Roadhouse, Manchester to see Sidi Bou Said and they
were superb. If you don't know them they are a female three piece
with two singers (guitarist and drummer) who have release a few
things on Ultimate. Comparisons to the Throwing Muses have been made,
quite rightly IMO - hence this posting.

The set appeared to be largely new material, or at least stuff I
didn't recognise (I have the Broooch and Bodies LPs plus a few
singles all on Ultimate). The main singer and guitarist has a
wonderful voice, somewhat reminiscent of Kristin Hersh at times but
not embarrassingly so. She had broken her ankle and did the whole
set sitting down, but still had more presence than the entire
support band (Dream Baby Dream - could do much better, must work
harder).

Well if they play your way I strongly recommend you check them out.
If not pick up the Bodies album or the Ode to Drink single (both on
Ultimate). Since apart from the odd review in Melody Maker they appear
to have been totally neglected they still play small, and cheap,
venues and the record are easiest found in the 2nd hand shops! New
single in the UK at the end of the month, so bye bye more money.

Richard


Richard Clemens
Faculty of the Environment, University of Salford, Salford UK
[All details with the excption of the name and the University are subject
to change in the near future. Exact details are unkown at the time of
going to press the send button]

"The fantastic is in league against me"


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:47:23 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: G500


Biz said...

>>alright, it's been more than 36 hours since the galaxie 500 boxed set hit
the stores and not one of you heathens has mentioned it,<<

Sorry!!! NONE, I'll say it again, NONE of the record shops in town managed to
pick this up. I'm getting my copy today!!! Can't wait.

Can't wait to finally see/hear "Blue Thunder" again. I've only got "This Is
Our Music". Now, if only Ryko would pick up the entire back-catalogue of Talk
Talk and do this I would really be in heaven. WHY did I buy 'Spirit of Eden'
and 'Colour of Spring' on cassette? AAAAGGHHHHHHH?

Maybe another reason that no one's mentioned G500 yet is that it probably
takes about 48 hours to digest it all. So there's still a few more hours to
go yet.

Oh and by the way, when is the Paladins CD out in the U.S.? I cannot wait to
hear it.

Roy

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:39:55 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: ex-Swallow


Igor pointed out that Parasol has...

>>Busy Going Crazy   Halfway in Light ep  (Whitelines)
cool, beat-heavy grooves from ex-swallow (4AD) Mike Mason<<

I have this as well as another ep from Busy Going Crazy (there are only two
as yet I believe). DO NOT EXPECT SWALLOW!!! These eps sound nothing like
Swallow, despite the guesting of Louise Treahy on some of the tracks.

Mostly instrumental, beat-heavy, toned down Chemical Brothers-ish, etc. Not
terribly essential, but if you are a completist...

What I'm interested in is finding that Swallow ep out on Rough Trade last
year/year before? Still in print? Anybody care to comment on how this is? Is
this, 'Blow' and 'Blowback' all from Swallow?

Bye.

Roy


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:34:04 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: A Delicate Dependency


VARIOUS ARTISTS
"A Delicate Dependency: Music For Vampires"
Mercury/PolyGram Group Canada
Tentative Instore Date: October 9

This album is the soundtrack to a darkly romantic lifestyle; black=20
clothes, crushed red velvet, dying roses and the music of the children of=
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the night. This compilation seamlessly flows from track to track, and=20
includes many very rare songs. The growing popularity of authors such as=20
Anne Rice and Nancy Baker and the vampire genre in general, and the=20
enduring faithfulness of Gothic rock fans show the built in constituency=20
for this album.

"A Delicate Dependency: Music For Vampires" is a exclusive Canadian
package, with no other album of this type or quality available elsewhere.
In addition to such well know artists as The Birthday Party, Bauhaus,=20
Dead Can Dance, Peter Murphy, Love And Rockets and the Cocteau Twins, the=
=20
album includes very rare cuts from Pieter Nooten (Clan Of Xmox) and=20
Canadian guitarist and producer Michael Brook, a rare track by Nico=20
singing "My Funny Valentine" and a single featuring writer Ren=E9 Halkett=
=20
with music by David J. This "dark" compilation wouldn't be complete=20
without 2 hidden tracks.

The marketing overview includes a CD mailing to specialty book and comic
stores in October, the project will be part of Halloween driven printer
advertising in key markets, and on-air giveaways at campus and modern=20
rock radio, as well as advance instore play copies.

 1. [The Birthday Party - Release The Bats] (hidden)
 2. Pieter Nooten & Michael Brook - Finally
 3. Cocteau Twins - Domino
 4. Love & Rockets - Saudade
 5. Dead Can Dance - In The Kingdom Of The Blind The One-Eyed Are Kings=20
 6. Peter Murphy - Wish
 7. Nico - My Funny Valentine
 8. Bauhaus - Hollow Hills
 9. Rene Halkett & David J - Nothing
10. [Bauhaus - Crowds] (hidden)

CD only=20
314 535 900-2
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Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON                                                  =20
CANADA                                                       =20
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:12:33 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: New Signing? Thrush...


The Thrush Puppie are signed to a new label called DETOX.  Theyhave a record
coming out very soon.

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:03:48 EDT
From: "Steven Hipkiss." (sah577@VMS1.BHAM.AC.UK)
Subject: Jo Wiggs.


  Was reading a review of the CMJ festival in the NME and there
was a mention of Josephine Wiggs playing in a couple of bands.
One, The Josephine Wiggs Experience, had her on vocals with two
of Luscious Jackson and a bassist. They were said to be minimalist
in a Breeders vein.

  The other, The Kostars, had Josephine on drums with one of the
Luscious Jackson people on vocals. These were said to be more like
the Cardigans.

  Both were on the roster of the Beastie Boys label I think.

  I have followed through The Perfect Disaster "Up", The Breeders
and her own Nude Nudes project.

  Did anybody attend/see these bands or have more info on them?

  Much appreciated,
  Steve.
  S.A.Hipkiss@Bham.ac.uk


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:47:54 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Paladins explained for Limeys


Steven Hipkiss understandably asks:
>  I'm new on the list so I apologise if this has been answered before,
>but who are the Paladins? Seen nothing of them in the English music
>press (NME & MM), but that isn't suprising

The Paladins are a roots-blues-rock band from LA. Similar to the Blasters
or Stevie Ray Vaughan. This is absolutely retro music, a slavish
re-enactment of the 1950s, there is nothing 4wArD about them at all. My
guess is Ivo got most wasted at a bar in LA where they were playing,
blacked out, and woke up the next morning in a dumpster clutching a
contract signing them to a multi-album deal with 4AD.

Couldn't Ivo have moved somewhere sensible like, say, Central Asia,
instead of LA? At least then when he started signing local traditionalist
bands we'd get to hear some bitchen throat-singin' and ugul-pickin' along
the lines of Huun Hur Tu (get "60 Horses In My Herd", it's great stuff.
How the hell do they get their vocal cords to do that?)

My question is: does the signing of the Paladins now automatically make
the Blasters, Los Lobos, Lone Justice, Stevie Ray Vaughan, etc.
thislisty? Decamp for pure-impure while you can... ;-)

__________          ___________________          ________________________
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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

      Goodnight stars   Goodnight air   Goodnight noises everywhere
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:13:37 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site


> bottom it says: "Too Pure U.S., Directors: P.A.Cox  M.C.Millis  R.J.Roberts
> I.Watts Russell" .  I assume that this is Ivo Watts Russell (this was not a t

All I know is that he's been one of the directors since
1993 or so. I think he contributed some financial support
in the beginning. Maybe someone else has more info.

|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:58:50 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: more 4AD goodies for sale


It's amazing the stuff that turned up during our move.
All of this was offered and even claimed a while back,
but after repeated emailings, the original buyers
flaked.

2 All Virgos Are Mad posters
the tall and thin variety listing the performances $5 each

1 4AD July 1994 catalogue $10

1 DCD Spiritchaser tourbook with CD $12

1 Breeders Divine Hammer CD single BAD 3017 CD

1 LIAE wooden box (just kidding!)

All prices include postage.

|    Dewdrops Records     | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 |   A Dewdrops Compilation   |
|  Los Angeles, CA 90066  |        Winter 1997         |
|   www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html   |

      > Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:13:48 -0400
From: Daniel Corriveau (corr@WIDOMAKER.COM)
Subject: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site


Today I got an advance copy of "Julie Only", the new release by TooPure's latest
signing, Seely.  I've only listened to the first three songs so far and it's qui
e good.
But on the letter that we enclosed with the cd I found something interesting.  A
 the
bottom it says: "Too Pure U.S., Directors: P.A.Cox  M.C.Millis  R.J.Roberts
I.Watts Russell" .  I assume that this is Ivo Watts Russell (this was not a toug

conclusion), but it is the first time that I have ever heard/seen his name in
association with TooPure.  Can someone enlighten me as to the nature of this
relationship.

Also, my Scheer site ( http://www.widomaker.com/~corr/music/scheer/ ) has recent
y
undergone some format changes and a new interview has been added.  I will soon b
 adding
information about their first releases on Son Records.

daniel corriveau
corr@widomaker.com


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:41:30 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site


Daniel Corriveau  writes:

> At the bottom it says: "Too Pure U.S., Directors: P.A.Cox M.C.Millis
> R.J.Roberts I.Watts Russell" .  I assume that this is Ivo Watts
> Russell (this was not a tough conclusion), but it is the first time
> that I have ever heard/seen his name in association with TooPure.
> Can someone enlighten me as to the nature of this relationship.

My understanding is that Ivo paid half of what it took to finance Too
Pure when it started up, so I guess he owns 50% of it.  (Somebody
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember one of the Too
Pure people saying this a few years back.)

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:26:34 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ivo and TooPure/Scheer Site - Seely

              96 02:13:48 pm

> Today I got an advance copy of "Julie Only", the new release by TooPure's
> latest signing, Seely.  I've only listened to the first three songs so far
> and it's quite good.

I just want to reiterate that Seely is a really great band and "Julie Only"
will officially be released sometime in October.  And as mentioned before,
it was recorded in Chicago with the guy (the name escapes me right now)
from Tortoise.  Though this new CD contains many of the same songs as
their locally released CD "Parentha See", everything has been re-recorded
for their first Too Pure release, and there are also several new songs.
Check it out.

> But on the letter that we enclosed with the cd I
> found something interesting.  At the bottom it says: "Too Pure U.S.,
> Directors: P.A.Cox  M.C.Millis  R.J.Roberts I.Watts Russell" .  I assume
> that this is Ivo Watts Russell (this was not a tough conclusion), but it
> is the first time that I have ever heard/seen his name in association with
> TooPure.  Can someone enlighten me as to the nature of this relationship.

I'll have to check with my friend Lori (the guitarist in Seely).  I know
she specifically mentioned his name when negotiations were going on, and I
got the impression that he was definitely heavily involved in Too Pure -
that is, it made a difference that he liked their demo tape.

-greg


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:25:20 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Seely


Could someone pretty please give some more details of Seely's album and
what it sounds like, what bands they've obviously been listening to, what
instruments they play, etc? Too Pure is a name I trust but lately not too
many Too Pure bands have really held my interest. Thanks...

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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

      Goodnight stars   Goodnight air   Goodnight noises everywhere
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:34:42 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins explained for Limeys


Jens Alfke wrote:

> My question is: does the signing of the Paladins now automatically make
> the Blasters, Los Lobos, Lone Justice, Stevie Ray Vaughan, etc.
> thislisty? Decamp for pure-impure while you can... ;-)

I read this question several times and have concluded that you have made
a very interesting point.

Are the days of Cocteau Twins, Xmal Deutschland and, hell, even Swallow
gone from the 4AD musical horizon?

While I've yet to give up totally on 4AD, I do agree with much of what
you've been saying ala Ivo waking up in a dumpster with a signed contract
for the Paladins.

4AD sells so little in Canada these days, Heidi Berry, His Name Is Alive
and The Paladins are among bands that didn't even get a domestic release.
Ivo may be feeling the 17 year itch, who knows...

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:49:08 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 4AD signs The Sensualists?


One band that would find 4AD a great home would be the Edmonton, Alberta
based dou duo called THE SENSUALISTS.  Comprised of Guitarist/keyboardist
Michael Turner and angelic vocalist Mandy Cousins, this band created one
of my most fave albums of '94.

With an ethereal Cocteau Twins-like sound, Mandy's vocals never fail to
send shivers down my back.  Hopefully, if all goes well a track from THE
SENSUALISTS will be featured on a forthcoming Dewdrops compilation.
Here's a brief discography of this superbly wonderful and 4AD worthy
band.

Cat # N/A  1992  Cassette  "Boon"  Featuring beautiful hand designed
artwork and cassette box cover and inside are take-your-breath-away songs
like "Moonmadness" and "Boon".

LOVE   23  1994  CD        "Lovesongs Of Chaos And Desire"  Rerecorded
versions of the above noted tracks and new ones like "Pulse Drop Pressure
Pop" and "Lilac Turns Gold".  Another beautiful cover and booklet from
designer Lam Wong, whose Direction A company produced the incredible tour
poster for Michael Brook's 1992 Canadian tour.  THE SENSUALISTS opened
for Brook on this same tour on the Edmonton date.

Ivo, PLEASE sign this wonderful band!!

Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:36:32 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: 4AD musical horizon...


>Are the days of Cocteau Twins, Xmal Deutschland and, hell, even Swallow
>gone from the 4AD musical horizon?

Muses, Scheer and Gus Gus!

t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
----------------------------------->

Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:25:46 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: new m7x?

              Sep 1996 16:21:27 -0400

>   howdy.

hi.

>   i just heard a rumor that there will be a new album by
>   the Moon Seven Times in January.  Can anyone confirm
>   this and/or provide more information?  Thanks.

Sorry this is a bit late but ... When, i talked to Henry on the Lanterna tour he
told me that he expected the new M7x album in January so i'd say it's a pretty
valid rumor but it's just a question of whether the record company holds it up
for some lame-o reason.

>   and speaking of Lynn Canfield and friends, anyone heard
>   anything more recent about possible reissues of the Area
>   albums (those grandiose Projekt rumors...)?

Area just doesn't seem to be high on Sam's list of priorities, i guess, 'cuz
he's been promising to re-release those for ages and i'm still waiting.

-cz


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:54:52 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Origins of Serpentskirt


Since there is no longer a Cocteau Twins list...I thought I'd post this
here instead....

Jerome Rothenberg's "Shaking the Pumpkin: Traditional Poetry of the Indian
North Americas" features an Aztec poem entitled "A Poem to the Mother of
the Gods".  The explanation of the poem in the appendix includes the

For the power of the imagination (Indian, Aztec, etc.) to give a face to
its gods, the reader should check again the art of the ancient codices and
such overwhelming statues as _la Gran Coatlicue_, that
"Lady-of-the-Serpent-Skirt" and mother of the gods, "whose head is twin
serpents, whose necklace human hands and hearts, whose feet and hands are
claws, whose skirt is made of writhing snakes," etc. but depicted
elsewhere as a mother carrying a baby in her arms.  Garibay's [Angel Maria
Garibay K.] note to this poem gives the name of the mother goddess as
Teteo innan, but he points also to her many other names and aspects.  Her
worship was sumamente antiguo in Anahuac.

..."And the costume of Teteu innan was as follows:  there was liquid
rubber on her lips and a circle of rubber on each cheek.  She had cotton
flowers.  She had a ball with palm strips.  She had a shell-covered skirt,
called a star-skirt.  She had the star-skirt.  Eagle feathers were strewn
over her skirt--it was strewn with eagle feathers; it had white eagle
feathers, pointed eagle feathers.  Her shield had a golden disc in the
center.  She car the medicinal herb, totoicxitl.  She used a broom; she
carried a broom." (Sahagun, _Florentine Codex_, Book Two:  "The Gods," 8th
Chapter.)


I just found that extremely interesting when I came across it and thought
I'd share. =)

Strick9


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:20:55 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Red House Painters w/John Cale-Toronto!


Toronto Listies:

Tuesday Oct. 22 sees the RED HOUSE PAINTERS (1st Toronto date?)
joining John Cale on his tour in Toronto at the Phoenix!

Tix are 15-18 from the usual. See Ya there!

Steve

P.S. see some of you at Lisa Germano on this Saturday night, Horseshoe,
$7 at the door, with Weeping Tile.

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