Subject: lisa g. in bloomington
Subject: The Church, e and H&C
Subject: Re: germano's inconsiderate bitch ep
Subject: Mixing Messages
Subject: Delete without reading
Subject: Re: subscribe
Subject: Re: germano's inconsiderate bitch ep
Subject: Returned mail
Subject: These People Are Alive
Subject: Re: germano's inconsiderate bitch ep
Subject: Re: These People Are Alive
Subject: Arcana bookstore..
Subject: For john Rosebourough
Subject: Re: germano's inconsiderate bitch ep
Subject: Re: Cardigans [many many many many many things]
Subject: Re: New signing?/Polly Harvey/ Muses etched 7"
Subject: HOT 4AD ITEM FOR SALE!!!
Subject: Re: 4AD Emigre #9
Subject: Lush promo cassette offer
Subject: 4AD-The Site
Subject: Re: Returned mail ???
Subject: hnia in detroit....
Subject: no more lush promo/Arcana
Subject: Re: Two 4ad rarities for auction
Subject: Re: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: Re: Cardigans [many many many many many things]
Subject: hnia trivia question...
Subject: Emigre on the web
Subject: Announcement: New site for 4AD FAQ
Subject: Vaughan Oliver/Tootsie Roll Syndrome defined
Subject: Caroline no.
Subject: LSD - Ever
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:47:48 -0500
this is in response to jill's question about lisa playing in
bloomington... sorry if someone's answered it already -- i'm on digest.
anyway, lisa basically flat out refuses to play in bloomington. i can
only think of one time she's played here in the past couple years... i'm
sure there have been other times, but not many. as for why, i'm not
sure. could be that, since many of her songs are autobiographical and
bloomington is a relatively small place, she doesn't want to perform them
in front of those they're written about. it might also be that
bloomington's not exactly a hot spot for thislisty type music, and so she
figures it isn't worth her while. in any case, her lack of enthusiasm
for playing to the hometown crowd is fairly well documented around here,
whatever her reasons may be...
brian
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:27:31 EST
The Church played here last night. Very much a retrospective, with only one
track from their new album "Magician amongst The Spirits" (which was ok on a
first listen - I don't have the cd). Kilbey's voice did not start out very well
- imagine standing listening to a live Church track and then suddenly these
hoarse croaky vocals cut in. However it did improve, despite the fact he looked
rather ill at times. Many of the songs were played with very long lead-ins or
just generally extended. A lot of stuff from Starfish, including a very rich
and full sounding Under The Milky Way. After hearing the track so many times,
the way it was played last night encouraged me to actualy pay attention to the
lyrics.
On 23 Sept Tom Weibrecht asked
>btw what happened to Hunters and Collectors.
Interesting to see them mentioned on this list, I wouldn't have thought they
would be of interest to people here. All I know is that they are playing here
in Canberra sometime soon with Died Pretty, so they must still be around.
[email protected]> wrote on Sat, 21 Sep 1996
>
> My friends, I did a foolish thing: I bought the new Lisa Germano,
> expecting it to me at least 1/4 as good as her last. It is not.
> Nor is it 1/4 as good as On the Way Down from the Moon Palace. We
> already felt sorry for her; it was established that she is rather
> pathetic but here we get to watch her operate on herself for 48
> minutes. 1996 has been a rather phenomenal year for music, but
> this probably would have been the most sickening display of the
> year had it come out in 1995 when there wasn't so much damned
> competition in that category. If I ever hit a sober girl it will
> be Lisa Germano, and this is the last 4AD scum I purchase until
> I've heard the next Mojave album in its entirety.
Ah, I knew there had been something missing from the list recently.
David Boughey
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:28:34 -0700
> i just picked up a copy of lisa germano's "inconsiderate bitch ep" today in
> the used bin...i don't own "happiness" but i do know that "puppet" was in
> that album...i was wondering if the songs on this ep are different from the
> album.
All of the songs on the ep are different versions of songs on Happiness.
The version of Happiness on the ep is the super-extendo version. The
album version is only about half that long. The others are also quite
different from the album versions. Now buy Happiness!
aaron
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:45:29 +0200
And here's another graphic design link (this time about US desgin...)
Mixing Messages
(Because Microsoft sponsered the exhibition site, it's optimized for use
with Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0 - but that's only useful for silly
WinDOS users ;-)
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, September 25, 1996
... [email protected]
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:20:58 -0700
the mystery parade wrote:
> I was afraid to ask Jeff...
Well, just like Sam Rothman as played by Robert DeNiro in "Casino" said,
"You can ask me anything!". To avoid the almost certain hype thats bound
to ensue, I'll tell you the news now... In a rash of muted media flurry,
I recently signed MYSELF to 4AD and the back cover of my first 7" will
feature a pic of my Mom and Dad righr after they signed the divorce
papers. In other news, I'm releasing the non-deluxe unlimited "cruddy"
version of "This Rimy River", which I painstakingly xeroxed onto the
least stable newsprint paper stock available. In an effort to save ink
and paper, the original pages have been reduced to one inch square areas
to make a hard-to-read six page bookle with smudgable ink qualities sure
to impress ink fans everywhere.
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:59:05 -0700
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, John Roseborough wrote:
> Just so Trey doesn't get a ton of replies, I thought I'd mention that I
> forwarded some of the FAQ text and sent the URL.
>
> John
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 [email protected] wrote:
>
> > i would like to receive information on how to subscribe to the infamous 4ad
> > list
> >
>
uh-oh, better watch what we say about liqourice et al. :)
sean
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Sean Devine
tucson, az
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:24:23 +0100
> from "Aaron Thorne" at Sep 24,
96 10:28:34 pm
Aaron Thorne Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:22 +0200
What's wrong with this list?
When I post a message I keep getting two or three of these messages back:
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---- message ----
User destemp1 not listed in public Name & Address Book
---- message ----
@discovery.com>
---- message ----
User marc jones not listed in public Name & Address Book
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Am I the only one with these problems?
What's the problem?
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, September 25, 1996
... [email protected]
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:59:53 -0400
>>and started to think about who the heck the newlywed couple is on the back
of the "Universal Frequencies" EP. Are they friends of Warren's??<<
I swear this looks like Vaughan Oliver in a wig and fake stash. Seriously.
And seeing as how Vaughan is on crack, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised
if it was. The girl looks a bit like she might've been in the Last v23
calendar, but this is going only from my memory of it.
Of course, I may be waaaaaaaayyyyyy off...and no I don't have Vaughan
Oliver/Tootsie Roll syndrome.
Roy
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:03:54 -0400
What's the track listing?
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:38:45 -0500
and just what is Vaughn Oliver/Tootsie Roll syndrome ???? ;)
>Of course, I may be waaaaaaaayyyyyy off...and no I don't have Vaughan
>Oliver/Tootsie Roll syndrome.
lisa of the southern roos
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:36:27 -0500
I need the address and phone number for this california bookstore..
I was on their waiting list to receive the v23 deluxe ed. but I haven't
heard a word yet and I want to check the situation out...
Thanks in advance... as usual mail me not the list... (duh)
lisa roo ina
st5c0@jetson (as in george, judy and elroy!) .uh.edu
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:31:55 -0500
Forgive me for wasting bandwidth or whatever,
but can John Rosebourough please send me his adress again?
I've been looking for it for two weeks and I didn't want to
ask again, but oh well...
The envelope is sealed and ready to go. It even has a stamp on it,
so as soon as you send me your address, you'll get the letter...
thanks a lot...
lisaroo
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:59:12 +0100
from "Joseph Burns" at Sep 25, 96 09:03:54 am
Joseph Burns Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:34:21 -0500
>>BiZ, who is also annoyed by that sort of thing (i think that all started
>>with the smashing pumpkins)...
>
>I'm still not convinced Caroline is a major-in-disguise. They've got a
>long track record as an indie label, if a largish one (I think they're
>almost as old as Rough Trade would be now.) Is it just that they're
>getting some assistance from Virgin? How is that different from 4AD and
>Warners?
i was interviewing a band last year and at one point the lead singer
started talking about the hunt for a label...officials at virgin told the
band, "we could start you out on an indie label to give you some
credibility like we did with the pumpkins." i don't know if caroline is a
major-in-disguise, but they could have some sort of exclusivity-of-contract
agreement worked out w/virgin...
BiZ
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:44:02 +0000
On 24 Sep 96 at 15:49, Dez commented informatively about "New
signing?" :
> According to the latest issue of City Life, the Manchester
> listings
> magazine, 4AD have signed local band (from Cheshire) the Thrush
> Puppies. If so, a few hearts will sink amongst the CT/DCD fanbase
> here. The Thrush Puppies are a female quartet of angry guitarniks
> who sound a little like House Tornado-era Muses meet Babes in
> Toyland round the Deal sisters' house. What I've heard of them
> (which ain't much) isn't bad at all.
Well I've seen them (Thrush Puppies) a few times round and about
manchester and I think the Muses/BiT may be a bit generous. They were
great fun live and well worth catching, but the songs seemed fairly
basic punk/pop stuff. I haven't heard any recorded stuff though.
Rumour has it that someone from 4AD was at the Night and Day cafe to
see the band on who's name has totally escaped me (very good, gentle
semi accoustic songs, with slide guitar on some - swoon). I was there
to see Laudanum Split (nee' Crushed) who may have also created some
interest, or then again my friend Nigel could be fantasing again!
> On another topic entirely, Polly Harvey's new LP with John
> Parish 'Dance
> Hall At Louse Point' is now out. It's pretty good, quite raw and
> pretty dicordant/disconcerting in places. I love the version of 'Is
> That All There Is'. Very deadpan, very droll.
>
Agree totally on this. Some of the discordant bits reminded me of Ut
(off topic any info on Quint whatsoever to me please) but the whole
thing is very much in line with her previous stuff, if a lot more
sparse than the last LP.
Finally as I am having a crap time at work I treated myself to the
Muses 7" 'Ruthie' Knocking'. The etching is basically bits of the
design of the LP, skipping girl and what have you, all in a nice
chunky cardboard sleeve.
Well I am off to see Sidi Bou Said at the Roadhouse to see if they're
as goodlive as Melody Maker says, or as good as the Bodies LP.
Richard
Richard Clemens
Faculty of the Environment, University of Salford, Salford UK
[All details with the excption of the name and the University are subject
to change in the near future. Exact details are unkown at the time of
going to press the send button]
"The fantastic is in league against me"
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:57:26 +0200
For sale:
PALADINS "Million Mile Club" CAD 6015 CD
Exellent condition, played only once...
Is this a bad dream?
Ivo must have been drunk when he went backstage after a Paladins concert
and thought it was cool to say "He boyz! You'r fuckin' great! I'm gonna
releaze this conzert on CD!" (or something like that)
>Dave Gonzalez is one of the best guitarists I have ever seen.
I won't say 'one of the best' but he sure does know his way around on the
instrument. If only the music didn't suck... and the vocals... and the
lyrics... and the style... and the artwork...
Just kidding, I think it's the best 4AD product that's ever been released*
Will this live cd be the only Paladins release on 4AD or can we expect a
studio album as well?
Start bidding,
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, September 25, 1996
... [email protected]
* on Monday, September 23rd, 1996.
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:42:27 -0600
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, the mystery parade wrote:
> Even Emigre themselves were selling this issue for $50, last time I checked...
Do you have their email adress?
Thanks!
Marco
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:39:06 -0700
I have a 2-song Lush promo cassette available
to the first person who sends me an email offer
of $2.
PRO-C-6996
Kiss Chase / Undertow
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:16:21 -0400
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:29:20 -0600
> What's wrong with this list?
>
> When I post a message I keep getting two or three of these messages back:
So do I, it's very annoying.
-Greyson
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:47:10 -0400
hnia will play twice in one night here in detroit. once at 7:00 pm at
desirable discs II in dearborn and later that evening... around 9:30 pm at
zoots coffee house... the date of the appearances will be the
twenty-seventh, friday, 1996...
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:22:03 -0700
The Lush promo tape has been claimed.
To the person who wanted the Arcana Books
phone number, it's 310-458-1499. When I got
my ltd. ed. v23 book a few weeks ago, they only
had a few left, and probably all are sold now.
But call them anyway and find out. The price was
something like $375-385 or just over $400 with
CA sales tax (I've tried to forget that part).
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> Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:17:20 PST
not 2 burst anyones bubble, but tower(!) has it in yonkers, ny for $
49.95!!!!! (the ct box)
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:32:19 -0400 Gravity Boy
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:07:03 PST
huh...why not send it 2 everyone
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:14:45 -0400 "James M. Renaud"
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:36:54 -0700
> i was interviewing a band last year and at one point the lead singer
> started talking about the hunt for a label...officials at virgin told the
> band, "we could start you out on an indie label to give you some
> credibility like we did with the pumpkins." i don't know if caroline is a
> major-in-disguise, but they could have some sort of exclusivity-of-contract
> agreement worked out w/virgin...
There was an article in an old Big Takeover that explained the SP-Caroline
thing. Apparently Gish wasn't doing well at first so Virgin gave Caroline
a HUGE amount of money to be used for their promotion. Suddenly we see
the Siva video on 120 minutes every week and it all begins to happen.
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:52:46 -0400
due to an untimely death in my family, the hnia trivia question was never
posted on the star vein web-zine. i'm really sorry for all those who
looked in vein. i will make it up by giving the first three to guess the
right answer two tapes.. hnia live in detroit and an interview with wrn
defever. email me with an address if you want me to send you the tapes.
eight dollars will cover the expenses of the tapes and shipping.
the trivia question will be posted at nine p.m. tonight... (wednesday)...
good luck...
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:49:39 -0800
Just checked out the Emigre site (http://www.emigre.com/EMaCo.html). They
have both the 4AD and Bruce Licher (of Independent Project/Analogue
3/Scenic...) issues (among others) listed. Each is indeed $50. Personally,
I think $50 is worth it for the 4AD issue. NO, I don't work for Emigre...
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:43:17 -0800
Jens Alfke recently passed the FAQ on to me, and I wish to announce the new
I will be getting my information primarily from the list. If I hear of
anything outside of the list, I will send it to the list to be verified
first.
I welcome all suggestions and additions. If something is in error, please
let me know and I will correct it.
Thank you, and ENJOY!
JT Milhoan
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:19:24 -0400
>>and just what is Vaughn Oliver/Tootsie Roll syndrome ????<<
Remember that commercial?
"Whatever it is I think I see...becomes a Tootsie Roll to me!"
Same thing just substitute Vaughan Oliver for Tootsie Roll.
Bye,
Roy