Subject: rachel's release date?
Subject: Re: Mazzy Star
Subject: Stereolab/Fuxa split single
Subject: David Stack -- Question (Re: the boy in zinc looking for...)
Subject: Can, L. Germano, no Moose
Subject: Re: Lisa's boots (Anita Lane)
Subject: Re: Moose (a very non listy post)
Subject: Re: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: Re: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: Re: Hi >>Remedios Varo
Subject: 4AD's "The Site"
Subject: Re: Lisa's boots (Anita Lane)
Subject: Who are these people?
Subject: Two 4ad rarities for auction
Subject: New signing?
Subject: Re: Who are these people?
Subject: A new mailing list
Subject: subscribe
Subject: Re: Two 4ad rarities for auction
Subject: Re: Stereolab/Fuxa split single
Subject: Re: Two 4ad rarities for auction
Subject: Re: Who are these people?
Subject: new address delays
Subject: Re: Blue Nile live
Subject: Re: Cardigans [many many many many many things]
Subject: Re: 4AD Emigre #9
Subject: Re: subscribe
Subject: Re: Who are these people, Rich Holtzman?
Subject: germano's inconsiderate bitch ep
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:31:19 -0600
hmmm....seems like all i have for this list these days is stupid
questions, oh well, here it goes...
anyone know the release date for the latest rachel's record?
ummm....palace is durn weird (thnks spiral). that's all.
.
mrk ([email protected])
.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:56:50 GMT
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:08:43 -0400, Michael Borum
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:02:01 +0100
droneon Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:11:24 -0600
Greetings...
Would you happen to have either of these still available?
> Clan Of Xymox ....... Clan Of Xymox (Import Only) ...... $11.00*
> His Name Is Alive ... Stars On E.S.P. (Advance Promo/w/ Inserts) $9.00*
If so i would be very interested in purchasing these from you.
Please let me know, I can send you a check or MO as soon as you like.
Thanks.
Yours in Truth-
Greyson Welch
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:00:50 -0400
>.not only was can a seminal group, but it was made up of
>incredibly talented individuals, who all created excellent albums as
>solo artists...jaki, holger, and eberhard
*Eberhard*?! Which albums was he on?
>But let me just say, as someone who also owns
>this CD, she is completely justified in her disdainful attitude toward
>"These Boots..." It is indeed an embarrassment. Really, the song isn't
>all that good to begin with (no matter who sings it).
"It's funky. And people like it. But it sure is dumb." - Nancy Sinatra
> No Moose. I did see one once, at the Jarvzoo in Sweden, and was
> treated to a lecture from my little brother on the difference between
> Moose, Elk and Reindeer. Apparently they all have their names
> shuffled on the other side of the Atlantic.
Moose and elk are the respective North American and European names for the
same thing. Reindeer is something else entirely.
The weirdest thing is that I went through a similar thread on another list
recently...
Larry
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:43:22 +1000
hi all,
Frank Brinkhuis
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:10:36 -0400
A Moose is a very different thing than an elk. An elk is the equivalent
of a reindeer, true. But a Moose is MUCH MUCH bigger than either of them.
If you've ever run into on e in the wild, you know - they're like a small
house.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:28:30 -0400
> Were you the git dancing around, and grabbing at the whale's tail???
>
> ~ quis
>
i couldn't help myself. i wanted to start the whale lead conga line, but
everyone was stiff. wrn said get off yer ass, so i took him up on it...
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:14:45 -0400
>
well i'll send ya one... just cause you were kool and all...
don't worry about shipping... i need an address or a place to meet...
> hey...it's me, the "gal who knew what she was talking about" from the warn
> interview. Well, my tape recorder f***ed up. Could I please get a copy of
> the interview? how much will s/h cost? and how soon could I get it? Thanx
> so much...I hate tape recorders...
>
> Heather
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:38:23 -0400
> > my favorite artist who ever lived is Remedios Varo. Remedios Varo was born
> > in Angles, Spain in 1908. She went to the Academia de San Fernando, the
> > same school Salvador Dali was expelled from. After graduating she moved to
> > Paris with Benjamin Peret who she would marry. Moving back to Spain wasn't
> > a good idea due to the Spanish Civil War.After a few years in Paris,
> > Remedios moved to Mexico because of the threat of Germans during World War
> > Two. In Mexico, Remedios Varo came into her own and became very popular
> > for her painting dealing with mysticism, stars, surrealist dreams,
> > superstitions and her amazing sarcasm. Remedios started duing one-woman
> > shows for the first time in her life. In the heighth of her career (1963),
> > Remedios Varo died just before the relatively young age of fifty-five. In
> > 1983 Remedios Varo's post-humous one-woman show at the modern art musuem
> > in Mexico City drew the largest attendance in Mexico's history for an art
> > exhibit. wednesday, i will have a galleria of Remedios Varo's work (I just
> > got permission to exhibit) on my web-zine...
>
> and the connection to 4AD is....??????? I know there is.... isn't
> there????
>
> ~ quis
plenty of connections with 4ad... ummm, i have remedios varo artwork on my
web pages and i also have reviews of some 4ad bands. also remedios varo
was very popular in mexico and so is 4ad. dcd played two shows in mexico
city, wrn defever was interviewed on national television and so was
remedios. also remedios is a woman and so are lisa germano, kim deal,
kristen hersh, lisa gerrard,etc. and most importantly her artwork is very
4ad. the topics she chooses to paint are very dark, and very mystical, and
very good...like 4ad... she is also european and so is ivo. she has brown
hair and so does trey many. there are so many links i don't have enough
time or energy to write them all. if remedios were alive, ivo would pay
her to do album covers... maybe...
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:17:57 -0400
Dear List,
Okay, so who's the poor schlep responsible for updating the 4AD Web Site??
It hasn't been touched, apparently, since July 24 (my birthday...), although
they've released about 4 or 5 or more new recordings since then. The band
information is woefully outdated, with NO new information for Lisa Germano,
Heidi Berry, Throwing Muses, His Name Is Alive, or these newcomers The
Paladins and Gus Gus.
Anyone?
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:06:25 +0200
>>>"These Boots..." It is indeed an embarrassment. Really, the song isn't
>>>all that good to begin with (no matter who sings it).
>>
>>Are you sure? Ever heard Anita Lane's interpretation...?
>
>where can i find a copy of "these boots..."? i know it isn't on her dirty
>pearl cd.
No, and that's shame. On the other hand, that album is already full of
brilliant tracks.
Anita Lane's version of TBAMFW can be found on the Barry Adamson soundtrack
for 'Delusion', out on Mute/Ionic. There's also a single version on Mute
Barry Adamson, Anita Lane & The Thought System Of Love (Mute MUTE 119, 1991)
1. These Boots Are Made For Walking - 7" Version
2. These Boots Are Made For Walking - Bonnie Floats On Airwair Mix
(by RSW's Karl Bonnie and German genius Holger Hiller)
3. Go Johnny
4. These Boots Are Made For Walking - Sleepwalking Mix
Buy it!
Frank
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:22:43 -0700
Has this been discussed before? I was sitting up at the lakeside cabin
this past weekend, throwing spare "Lilliputs" on the fire to keep warm
and started to think about who the heck the newlywed couple is on the
back of the "Universal Frequencies" EP. Are they friends of Warren's??
Jeff Keibel
Scarborough, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:44:23 -0400
I'm interested in selling the following items:
Cocteau Twins Box set released several years ago featuring
approx 10 of their singles- good as new.
Emigre magazine feat. 4ad issued late 1980's I believe (circa
LIAE)- large sized magazine featuring primarily 4ad with
artwork, discography, various interviews- absolutely stunning.
A must for any 4ad nutter. Excellent condition.
All reasonable bids considered (reasonable being no less that
$50 in both cases). Contact me at the below address (not the
list as I am not a member).
thanks
ted
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Charlottesville VA 22903
[email protected]
"Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation, is
inherently purging.. It makes a man a king!" JG
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:49:40 EDT
According to the latest issue of City Life, the Manchester listings
magazine, 4AD have signed local band (from Cheshire) the Thrush Puppies. If so,
a few hearts will sink amongst the CT/DCD fanbase here. The Thrush Puppies are a
female quartet of angry guitarniks who sound a little like House Tornado-era
Muses meet Babes in Toyland round the Deal sisters' house. What I've heard of
them (which ain't much) isn't bad at all.
On another topic entirely, Polly Harvey's new LP with John Parish 'Dance
Hall At Louse Point' is now out. It's pretty good, quite raw and pretty
dicordant/disconcerting in places. I love the version of 'Is That All There Is'.
Very deadpan, very droll.
- Dez
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:13:20 +0200
Jeff wrote:
>Has this been discussed before? I was sitting up at the lakeside cabin
>this past weekend, throwing spare "Lilliputs" on the fire to keep warm
>and started to think about who the heck the newlywed couple is on the
>back of the "Universal Frequencies" EP. Are they friends of Warren's??
Warrens's mum and dad I guess.
Frank
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:31:10 -0700
With the help of Jack Huynh, I've finally done what I've long been
threatening to do: I've started up a new mailing list to spin off much of
the interesting (to me) non-4AD discussion from the 4AD list. Rather than
having the topic just be "thislisty stuff that isn't on 4AD", I've tried
to focus things a bit more. (There's an excerpt from the Intro web page
below.)
I know some people here have been opposed to the idea of doing this; but
I really think it's time. The musical split between the current 4AD
roster and the kind of music pure-impure wants to discuss is by now
pretty complete -- the only crossover bands I can think of would be Gus
Gus and possibly HNIA. It's time to give 4AD-L back to the people who
still like 4AD and discuss the ongoing electroswirlynoisyjunglethereal
scene elsewhere.
I've tried hard to design a list that will not stagnate the way
single-band lists do; we have a very wide variety of stuff to discuss,
much of which is way out on the bleeding edge and not very well served by
the mainstream media (hell, they can't even come up with a decent name
for it. "Post-rock" my ass.) The focus will be on the music itself, not
on peripheral issues like movies, record stores or clubs.
Here's an excerpt from the list manifesto. You can read all this and
more, with better formatting, along with a poster I've spent too long
slaving over, at:
http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/pure-impure/
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pure-impure is a mailing list for discussing music that mixes up elements
of
techno, ambient, shoegazer (aka dreampop), noise, dub, drone, and
what-have-you. Some of this music has been called "trip-hop". Some has
been
called "post-rock". No one's come up with a good label yet, but there's a
lot of
interesting music being made that seems to fit into a coherent whole.
The name of this mailing list comes from an EP by Seefeel, whose early
recordings
are a perfect example of this style -- amorphous, looped sound; elastic
basslines;
guitar morphed into a swirl of sound; vocals lost in the mix. However,
this is not
exclusively a Seefeel mailing list.
This list is a spin-off of the long-lived 4AD-L, which has been a good
place for
discussing these types of music. However, with the continued evolution of
the
4AD label (The Paladins?!?) there's a growing distance between the bands
currently
on 4AD and a lot of the non-4AD music being discussed there. It seemed to
make
sense to split the ambient/noise/etc. discussions into their own list;
and here we
are!
In setting up this mailing list I'm trying to avoid the bad examples of
one-band
lists, which quickly run out of things to talk about. On the other hand,
I have to
hope that there is enough of an aesthetic focus that we can agree what
music is
relevant without digressing into infinity or getting into flame wars.
It'll help to
have a core set of bands we can assume axiomatically are relevant. Here
are some
examples, up for debate or addition:
Bark Psychosis
Bowery Electric
Flying Saucer Attack (and spin-offs such as Movietone and 3rd Eye
Foundation)
Labradford
Laika (and old Moonshake)
My Bloody Valentine
Portishead (or are they off the pop end of the spectrum?)
Scala
Seefeel
Slowdive (particulary Pygmalion and the 5EP)
Spectrum
Stereolab (who in many ways don't fit but whom I'm convinced belong
here)
Talk Talk (their later albums such as Spirit of Eden and Laughing
Stock)
Tortoise
Tricky (and Massive Attack?)
Underworld
Windy & Carl
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To subscribe, send email to Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:06:16 -0400
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:32:19 -0400
Watkins" at Sep 24, 96 12:44:23 pm
> I'm interested in selling the following items:
>
> Cocteau Twins Box set released several years ago featuring
> approx 10 of their singles- good as new.
>
> All reasonable bids considered (reasonable being no less that
> $50 in both cases). Contact me at the below address (not the
> list as I am not a member).
not to be a dick or anything (i've met ted before - he's a nice guy) but
the box set is still available as far as i know. i have seen it at a couple
of the BEST BUY chain stores here in Northern VA for $53.99...which sucks
since i paid a good deal more than that when it first came out all those
years back!
Keith
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:12:03 -0400
droneon Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:04:52 -0700
Ted Watkins wrote:
>Cocteau Twins Box set released several years ago featuring
>approx 10 of their singles- good as new.
This is not a rarity -- it's still in print as far as I know. (Somebody
back me up here.) Street price is usually ~$60 new, so $50 used is pretty
steep.
>Emigre magazine feat. 4ad issued late 1980's I believe (circa
>LIAE)- large sized magazine featuring primarily 4ad with
>artwork, discography, various interviews- absolutely stunning.
>A must for any 4ad nutter. Excellent condition.
This _is_ rare and is very, very nice indeed. Includes a few layouts
Vaughan designed especially for that issue. I have one too but I think
I'll hold onto it.
Actually any issue of Emigre is nice stuff for those into [avant-garde]
design and typography. They also design weird fonts that you've certainly
seen if you read Wired or Raygun or buy any techno/ambient CDs. :)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:01:43 -0400
Mi Amigo, Jeff
is there a piece of 4AD trivia that you do not know or are you just playing.
YOU of all people must know by now.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:12:57 -0700
[email protected]
Now that Dewdrops has completed its move 3.8 miles
south west of our former location, I wanted to make
sure one more time that everyone has our new address,
which is shown below. Also since forwarding mail does
take some time, don't be surprised if any orders sent
to our old address aren't mailed right away.
Thanks for your continued support,
Brant
| Dewdrops Records | Splashed With Many A Speck |
| 12515 Pacific Ave. #106 | A Dewdrops Compilation |
| Los Angeles, CA 90066 | Winter 1997 |
| www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html |
> Uncommon music that deserves to be heard <
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:28:11 +-200
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Saw the Blue Nile live in '91 or '92 in London in an also-sold-out-show.
the crowd cheered endlessly.
Towards the end I tried to take a quick zoomed photo. As I clicked the shutter,
a security guy grabbed my shoulder, and the result was a magnificently blurred
Blue Nile photograph that could easily make their next album cover.
Didn't quite like the musical they approached on their 3rd album, but still, the
are one of the remarkable bands ever...
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:07:52 -0600
Jens Alfke screamed effortlessly into the big black void:
> >BiZ, who is also annoyed by that sort of thing (i think that all started
> >with the smashing pumpkins)...
>
> I'm still not convinced Caroline is a major-in-disguise. They've got a
> long track record as an indie label, if a largish one (I think they're
> almost as old as Rough Trade would be now.) Is it just that they're
> getting some assistance from Virgin? How is that different from 4AD and
> Warners?
i think biz is targeting sp specifically and not really caroline...afaik,
sp signed to caroline/virgin knowing that their next cd would be released
on capitol/virgin...the release of 'gish' on caroline was merely to attract
interest to them as an 'indie' band on an 'indie' label.
btw, if anyone would like to buy my 'mellon collie and the infinite cash
flow,' email me. :)
.j.
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I'm just here for the drugs."
-Nancy Reagan (when asked a political question at a "Just Say No" rally)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:40:52 -0800
Even Emigre themselves were selling this issue for $50, last time I checked...
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:50:41 -0500
Just so Trey doesn't get a ton of replies, I thought I'd mention that I
forwarded some of the FAQ text and sent the URL.
John
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> i would like to receive information on how to subscribe to the infamous 4ad
> list
>