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Subject: Re: Lisa Germano Tour
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:58:02 EDT
From: Library Girl (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: wild dogs
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 00:44:15 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:13:58 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:46:49 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:47:36 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: many many many many many things
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:32:32 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:15:47 +1000
From: Geoff Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 02:11:44 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Moose Moose Moose...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:11:36 -0600
From: Greyson Welch (slugdady@GULF.NET)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:00:35 -0500
From: Doug Wittner (rorshach@EARTH.EXECPC.COM)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:39:39 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:53:51 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Mazzy Star
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:17:54 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Detroit Electric CD?/ Little Princess/HNIA 7"
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:51:04 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 11:38:52 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Star
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:21:19 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Star
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 20:40:52 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Blue Nile live
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:14:48 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Detroit Electric CD?/ Little Princess/HNIA 7"
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:25:45 -0400
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (quisquose@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:16:25 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:03:49 -0600
From: Greyson Welch (slugdady@GULF.NET)

Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:58:02 EDT
From: Library Girl (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano Tour


> Sorry I have been a little negligent in getting these out to you quickly.
>
> Thu-Sep 26 BOSTON  Middle East/Hear Music In-store
> fri-Sep 27 MONTREAL Cabaret
> Sat-Sep 28  TORONTO  Horseshoe
> Mon-Sep 30  NYC  Brownies
> Tue-Oct 1  PHILADELPHIA  Silk City/Borders in-store
>
> a few west coast dates coming in Nov.
>

is this right?
the village voice has the brownies date listed as october 30, not
september...
id hate to miss it by a month...

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 00:44:15 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: wild dogs


the posts went like this:

> einexile the meek wrote:

> If I ever hit a sober girl it will be Lisa Germano.

> Jeff wrote:

> Do regularly hit drunk girls then??
> einexile the meek wrote:

> Only as often as I shoot wild dogs.

How do you establish if in fact the dog is wild?  Is it frothing at the
mouth with rabid foam?  Call the SPCA if you see a pack of rabid dogs in
your 'hood on their 24 hour hotline number.

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:13:58 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it


what is the connection between mazzy star and kendra smith?
is there anyone who has some history about heidi berry?
what are the "good" pale saints albums?
thanks in advance,
sean


------------
Sean Devine
tucson, az
------------


Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:46:49 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it

u>

On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, sean devine wrote:

> what are the "good" pale saints albums?

In Ribbons and Slow Buildings

Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:47:36 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it

u>

On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, sean devine wrote:

> what are the "good" pale saints albums?

Oh, and the best Pale Saints release has to be the flesh balloon ep.
Kinky Love is fuckin' brilliant

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:32:32 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: many many many many many things


enclosed in this message are flames, reviewlets and some other stuff too,
maybe, but i haven't written it yet, so without further ado...

all the pale saints stuff is great, with the exception of the fine friend
ep which is good and the slow buildings lp, which is ok (king fade saved it
from being a mediocre, imo.)

when, oh when will elvia and derf take a few lessons in simple grammar (the
difference between your/you're seems to be a big one with you two...)?

when will ~quis realize that people want to read his mindless "vengeance
flames" even less than they want to read intelligent off-topic discussion
about art (which, imo beats listening to a bunch of people talk about their
amps, pedals and gadgets on the mbv list)?


the new curve ep is magnificent...i never liked them very much before, but
i felt obligated to buy this ep when i heard it was coming out...i'm now
glad i did..."pink girl with the blues" is probably the weakest track on
the ep, but is still better than anything garbage have ever done..."black
delilah" and "recovery" simply kick ass...too bad it's an import...

cardigans "first band on the moon"  this album came along at just the right
time in my life...i had recently found myself moping about in record
stores, silently cursing the unavailability of the field mice back catalog
until this album arrived upon my desk last week...it's simply swell...watch
for the cardigans to fill the void left by the break-up of st.
etienne...happy-sounding pop tunes at their best -- with bittersweet
lyrics...

dub narcotic "boot party"  it's ok, but the band tries to juxtapose too
many different styles to pull off a decent album...two of the songs on the
lp, "ship to shore" and "super dub narcotic" are excellent..."ship" is a
sexy soulful groove with those subdued female vox everyone on this list
seems to love..."super dub narcotic" is the soundtrack to a madman's most
bizarre dreams...if hell has a dancefloor, this is what the kids there
groove to.

the boo radleys "what's in the box (see whatcha got)?"  what has happened
to the boo's?  they used to be so nifty...another "two-parter."  buy the
second one, skip the first.

suede "trash" are two-part singles the norm now in the uk?  if they are,
doesn't that kind of undermine the whole reason for their existence?  when
are we going to see 7-part cd singles, with a 30-second b-side on each?
anyway, i had pretty much forgot about suede until a friend of mine told me
she had an extra copy of each of these... i picked 'em up not expecting
much, but the title track delights me, as does one of the b-sides on each
single...haven't heard the lp yet, but i may cave in before its us release
date of "sometime in january," and buy the damn thing...

other stuff:

madison listies may want to take notice of the dirty three/man or astroman
show next month (yes, i know some of you already know about it...) i plan
on writing up a concert review for the paper, but if anyone is going and
wants to give me a ride (HINT), i'd be pretty happy...

to all of the people who are waiting for me to get back to them about
something or another, just give me a couple of days before you send "the
boys" over...i'm working on it...

BiZ


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:15:47 +1000
From: Geoff Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it


> I have evoked the evil one. The curse of the reviewer for the sake of
> keeping this list alive and exciting. Yes, einexile is back...lord help us,
> but the reviews better be damn good.

Hey, I've missed e's reviews lately. I'm glad he/she/e is back. Maybe the
reviews are opinionated, maybe they don't often relate to 4ad, but these
reviews share information with the rest of us. I still remember e's
review of Orbital's "In Sides" which was a phenomenal review. I really
got stuck into Orbital after this review - didn't like "In Sides" as much
as e did, but it pointed me to the earlier stuff. And I like e's acerbic
style - even if e totally writes off an album/artist I admire, I often
have to begrudgingly admit the point. This kind of criticism/review keeps
our thoughts about music from stagnating. You don't have to agree with e,
but at least it makes you think.

Cheers,
Geoff

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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 02:11:44 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things


> the new curve ep is magnificent...i never liked them very much before, but
> i felt obligated to buy this ep when i heard it was coming out...i'm now

The new ep is no better than than the old stuff.  Not really worse either,
so it's not a letdown at all.  A very worthwhile release on Fatlip records.

> suede "trash" are two-part singles the norm now in the uk?  if they are,
> doesn't that kind of undermine the whole reason for their existence?  when

not if the reason was to sell more product and boost chart position.  I
don't mind two-parters when it's some special thing but they're really too
common now.

> are we going to see 7-part cd singles, with a 30-second b-side on each?

I believe the limit is 4 formats now, which includes viny, cd, and
cassette.  Extreme example:  Catherine Wheel - Crank.  There were two cds,
a 12", and a cassete, and they all had completely different b-sides.
collecting hell.  Electrafixion and Pearl Jam are the only ones I've seen
to release a 3 part cd set, though there may be others.


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:11:36 -0600
From: Greyson Welch (slugdady@GULF.NET)
Subject: Moose Moose Moose...


Greetings...

                With all of this talk about Moose lately I figure this is a good
time to bring this up.  I've only heard one song from the "Sunny and
Sam" EP, it was the song that they made a video for, and I did quite
like that a lot.  I remember some years ago, looking for this cd but
unfortunately I had no luck finding it.  Does anyone have a copy that
they would like to sell, or know where I might get a copy of this EP?
Also, any info about the band would be helpful as well.  Were there
earlier works?  I appreciate any info.

                        Also, I've heard some rather unfavorable remarks about t
e Cocteau
Twins lately-- have they fallen out of favor with most 4AD fans these
days?  Forgive my relative ignorance to the opinions of the list
members here, I just recently subscribed.  Just curious, thanks.

Yours in Truth-
Greyson Welch

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:00:35 -0500
From: Doug Wittner (rorshach@EARTH.EXECPC.COM)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things

              Sep 22, 96 01:32:32 am

    yo Biz -
>
> other stuff:
>
> madison listies may want to take notice of the dirty three/man or astroman
> show next month (yes, i know some of you already know about it...) i plan
> on writing up a concert review for the paper, but if anyone is going and
> wants to give me a ride (HINT), i'd be pretty happy...

     i know i got my tick, iffn you need a ride that would be kewl.  you
got yr tickets for the red house painters/john cale show yet? better get
offn yr arse n show up, else kozelic shall croon w/out ya.

     get together sunday eve? whaddya think? don't matter what time,
'nless it's after 7pm. giggle. otherwise, anytime tuesday or wednesday
would be fine.

adios for now,
ror asshat


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:39:39 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...


The _Sonny of Sam_ ep is actually a collection of tracks from their first
three eps (_Cool Breeze_, _Jack_ and _Reprise_, if I remember
correctly).  It was sort of a sampler from their American label to see if
they'd sell in the States (was this Virgin?) and apparently it didn't
sell, as everything since has been import only.  Look for the original
eps, as some of the other tracks are magnificent.

jeh

On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Greyson Welch wrote:

> Greetings...
>
>                 With all of this talk about Moose lately I figure this is a go
d
> time to bring this up.  I've only heard one song from the "Sunny and
> Sam" EP, it was the song that they made a video for, and I did quite
> like that a lot.  I remember some years ago, looking for this cd but
> unfortunately I had no luck finding it.  Does anyone have a copy that
> they would like to sell, or know where I might get a copy of this EP?
> Also, any info about the band would be helpful as well.  Were there
> earlier works?  I appreciate any info.
>
>                         Also, I've heard some rather unfavorable remarks about
the Cocteau
> Twins lately-- have they fallen out of favor with most 4AD fans these
> days?  Forgive my relative ignorance to the opinions of the list
> members here, I just recently subscribed.  Just curious, thanks.
>
> Yours in Truth-
> Greyson Welch
>


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:53:51 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...


On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Greyson Welch wrote:

> I've only heard one song from the "Sunny and
> Sam" EP, it was the song that they made a video for, and I did quite
> like that a lot.  I remember some years ago, looking for this cd but
> unfortunately I had no luck finding it.

If memory serves thit ep was US domestic and entirely made up of tracks
which appeared on the eps as follows:

Jack (Hut 3)
Cool Breeze (Hutt 5) [sic]
Reprise (Hut 8)

If anyone happens to find a second copy of Sunny and Sam I would
really like one as well, as I have collected everything else of theirs
that I know exists.

A quick discog:

Jack ep
Cool Breeze ep  <-- AWESOME
Reprise ep
Little Bird (Are You Happy In Your Cage?) ep
...XYZ lp
Liquid Makeup ep
Uptown ep
Honey Bee lp
Bang Bang ep
Live a Little Love a Lot lp

(was there a single for this last anyone know?)


 e

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:17:54 -0400
From: stereolad (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Mazzy Star


>>Where are Mazzy Star?
>>Goodnight,
>>
>> e
>
>Mazzy Star is on the cover of this month's AP.  The new album, "Among My
>Swam"
>        is coming up in a month or two.
>According to the interview, this is "MS most consistently sublime album.
>Nothing on
>        Among My Swam rocks, but it doesn't need to."

It's actually "Among My Swan" (which makes only slightly more sense that
"Among My Swam"). There's something in the interview about how the title
doesn't mean anything. Once again, MS are really surly and give bad
interview and the whole thing doesn't really tell you a thing.

>"Connais-tu, comme moi, la douleur savoureuse,
>Et de toi fais-tu dire: 'Oh! l'homme singulier!'
>- J'allais mourir.  C'etait dans mon ame amoureuse,
>Desir mele d'horreur, un mal particulier"
>Le Reve D'Un Curiex (Charles Baudelaire)
                            ^^^^^^^

And that should be "curieux"


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:51:04 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Detroit Electric CD?/ Little Princess/HNIA 7"


I'm still looking for the 'Detroit Electric - Lightning A Match Under Water'
compilation CD that was released early this year. Can anyone tell me where I
can get a copy? I don't think places like Parasol or Vinyl Ink ever got it.
Thanks in advance for your help!


Oh and there's a wonderful new Little Princess cassette out on Time Stereo,
called '7 28 96 WDET Radio'. It's a recording from a radio show + interview
with Warren Defever and Davin. They explain all about that Little
Princess/His Name Is Alive 'Meldoy Farm EP' and do a live 12" noise remix of
Timmy Thomas' hit 'Why Can't We Live Together.

Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 11:38:52 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: many many many many many things


I heard a great Cardigans album at a listening station once....it had a
girl on ice on the cover.....but i thought it was recently released on
Minty Fresh...and yesterday while in a record store i see another new
cardigans album on a different label?  Which of these albums came first
and where did this great band come from?  They are TRULY a kind of band i
wanted to here at this point in my life...


matt


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:21:19 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Star

              Sep 1996 08:17:54 -0400

>   >        is coming up in a month or two.
>   >According to the interview, this is "MS most
>   consistently sublime album.
>   >Nothing on
>   >        Among My Swam rocks, but it doesn't need to."

If you're in the Seattle area (probably other places too), you can hear the new
album at the listening station at the university district Tower.  I listened to
it about a month ago.  I don't remember a whole lot about it except that it
sounded very much in the vein of "So Tonight ...", it had the song from the
Stealing Beauty soundtrack, and i knew i'd want to buy it when it comes out.

-cz


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 20:40:52 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Star


On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:17:54 -0400, stereolad 

>It's actually "Among My Swan" (which makes only slightly more sense that
>"Among My Swam"). There's something in the interview about how the title
>doesn't mean anything. Once again, MS are really surly and give bad
>interview and the whole thing doesn't really tell you a thing.

Maybe it's a reference to the famous-at-the-time but
I-forgot-who-wrote-it and don't-have-it-handy poem "Parmi l'arbre"
from twenties' Paris, wherein a tree is a multitude.

Or maybe it's an example of how difficult it is to be weird in an
original way.

Swami among swans,
Paul

PS
It has the song from "Stealing Beauty". Does it have the song from
"Batman Forever" as well?


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:14:48 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Blue Nile live


        Six years on almost to the week that the Blue Nile last played Mancheste

at a Free Trade Hall show that has since past almost into legend, they finally
returned tonight for a sell out show at the Opera House. Like last time, they
were expanded to a six piece for the boards - and like last time it was a show
high on emotion, leavened with some self-deprecating humour from Paul Buchanan,
and mild piss-taking from wags in the audience. But the music transcended
everything, with Buchanan's voice the centrepiece - at times quite breathtaking.
There was no place for either Family Life or From A Late Night Train - those
songs are perhaps simply too personal and emotional for easy transition to the
live setting. Listening to the Blue Nile is not really a social occupation,
anyway - but at their best they transport you to rainy Glasgow streets and the
poetry of melancholy and solitude. That kind of sadness that feels so
invigorating, and the kind of love that is so intense that you feel more like
crying than whooping for joy. Reporting on individual songs seems too much like
dissecting something that needs to be taken as a whole to retain it's incredible
magic, and anyway I'm on too much of a post show high/low to go into much
detail. Another triumph.

Set list (approximate order)

Body And Soul
Over The Hillside
Sentimental Man
A Walk Across The Rooftops
Tomorrow Morning
Let's Go Out Tonight
Love Came Down
Stay
Headlights On The Parade
Happiness
God Bless You Kid
Saturday Night
Tinseltown In The Rain
----
Downtown Lights
Easter Parade

The new single, Happiness, is released tomorrow (the 23rd) in the UK

Now I'm going to get drunk

- Dez

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:25:45 -0400
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (quisquose@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Detroit Electric CD?/ Little Princess/HNIA 7"


Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
>
> I'm still looking for the 'Detroit Electric - Lightning A Match Under Water'
> compilation CD that was released early this year. Can anyone tell me where I
> can get a copy? I don't think places like Parasol or Vinyl Ink ever got it.
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Oh and there's a wonderful new Little Princess cassette out on Time Stereo,
> called '7 28 96 WDET Radio'. It's a recording from a radio show + interview
> with Warren Defever and Davin. They explain all about that Little
> Princess/His Name Is Alive 'Meldoy Farm EP' and do a live 12" noise remix of
> Timmy Thomas' hit 'Why Can't We Live Together.
>
> Frank
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Frank Brinkhuis
> frankbri@pi.net
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> http://home.pi.net/~frankbri/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


uh yeah, didn't you try Davn at timeSTEREO yet???

~   quis


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:16:25 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...


On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Read Dawkins wrote:

> The _Sonny of Sam_ ep is actually a collection of tracks from their first
> three eps (_Cool Breeze_, _Jack_ and _Reprise_, if I remember
> correctly).  It was sort of a sampler from their American label to see if
> they'd sell in the States (was this Virgin?) and apparently it didn't
> sell, as everything since has been import only.  Look for the original

In articles I've seen it's always refered to as Sonny & Sam, so I guess
that little squiggly thing is a fancy and-symbol.  The ep came out when
similar comps were being released like Ride-Smile, Slowdive-Blue Day,
Lush-Gala, Revolver-Baby's Angry (a little later), and others probably.
The difference is Sonny & Sam was released as an ep, found in the singles
section, and everybody knows that the US buys ALBUMS.  I don't know how
well it sold but I doubt Virgin was expecting a breakthrough or something.
This was pre-nirvana and all that.  What happened is they were pushing
Moose as a shoegazey band based on the sound of the early eps.  Then they
heard XYZ (which is totally different) and not only did they drop them in
america but they told Hut that they also had to drop them in the UK, even
though Hut loved the guys and the album had been selling well there.

tracklisting for anyone interested:

last night i fell again (reprise)
this river will never run dry (reprise)
do you remember? (reprise)
jack (jack)
ballad of adam & eve (jack)
suzanne (cool breeze)
butterfly collector (cool breeze)

it came with a little sticker on the front that said "over 32 minutes of
music" or something like that.  to protect themselves from the wrath of
Mike Brady, the picture of the Reprise cover on the inside of S&S had Jan,
Marsha, and Cindy's faces messed up beyond recognition.  Imagine my
surprise when I got the real thing.

aaron


Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:03:49 -0600
From: Greyson Welch (slugdady@GULF.NET)
Subject: Re: Moose Moose Moose...


Greetings...

> > The _Sonny of Sam_ ep is actually a collection of tracks from their first
> > three eps (_Cool Breeze_, _Jack_ and _Reprise_, if I remember
> > correctly).  It was sort of a sampler from their American label to see if
> > they'd sell in the States (was this Virgin?) and apparently it didn't
> > sell, as everything since has been import only.


                Seeing as how I don't remember which song it was that I had hear

some many years ago (I believe that the chorus had the phrase "that
God knows..." in it-- they made a video for it), perhaps I should
start with this ep since it's a collection of early work.  What I'm
interested in is "shoegazer" type material.  Of course, I have never
seen this release locally or in a catalog, so where could I get a
copy?  Any ideas?  If no one knows where I could order a copy, perhaps
I could convince someone to dubit for me?  Thanks.

Yours in Truth-
Greyson Welch


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