Subject: Re: Hi >>Remedios Varo
Subject: im replying about Kahlo,
Subject: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: review hell - you deserve it
Subject: Additional Locust projects
Subject: Paladins
Subject: Control Panel 12"
Subject: Must See CT on NBC
Subject: Re: Control Panel 12"
Subject: Re: Assaulting girls
Subject: Re: review purgatory - 'Limbo'
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Subject: Pram also, Moose
Subject: Re: im replying about Kahlo,
Subject: Re: HNIA IN DETROIT***free hnia***
Subject: Re: Hi >>Remedios Varo
Subject: how do i unsubscribe?
Subject: Re: Assaulting girls
Subject: Re: review hell - you deserve it
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 03:34:30 -0400
On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, DANIELA L CARRILLO wrote:
> AS A FAN #1 OF THE MEXICAN WOMEN PAINTER, FRIDA KAHLO. I WOULD LIKE TO
> INTERCHANGE INFORMATION ABOUT HER LIFE AND HER ART WORK WITH YOU. ALSO,
> I WOULD WANT TO KNOW YOUR OPINION TOWARD THE MEXICAN ART AS WELL AS,
> LATINAMERICAN ART. THANK YOU, DANIELA CARRILLO.
>
my favorite artist who ever lived is Remedios Varo. Remedios Varo was born
in Angles, Spain in 1908. She went to the Academia de San Fernando, the
same school Salvador Dali was expelled from. After graduating she moved to
Paris with Benjamin Peret who she would marry. Moving back to Spain wasn't
a good idea due to the Spanish Civil War.After a few years in Paris,
Remedios moved to Mexico because of the threat of Germans during World War
Two. In Mexico, Remedios Varo came into her own and became very popular
for her painting dealing with mysticism, stars, surrealist dreams,
superstitions and her amazing sarcasm. Remedios started duing one-woman
shows for the first time in her life. In the heighth of her career (1963),
Remedios Varo died just before the relatively young age of fifty-five. In
1983 Remedios Varo's post-humous one-woman show at the modern art musuem
in Mexico City drew the largest attendance in Mexico's history for an art
exhibit. wednesday, i will have a galleria of Remedios Varo's work (I just
got permission to exhibit) on my web-zine...
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 03:52:56 -0400
so delete me if you are an uptight folk who ,
has to get all picky about what should and shouldn't be on the
group list.
On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, DANIELA L CARRILLO wrote:
> luis, that's very cool, I will love to have some books, although I have
> read some of them. It's amazing that your teacher was a friend of Frida
> Kahlo, I envied her. What is the name of your teacher? Thank you.
>
you envied a woman who spent a large part of her life in physical and
emotional torture? i can see the envy in the artwork. her art is very
good. but i see it very hard to envy her life.
also... who gives the fuck if we talk about art? quit your complaining you
uptight folks. that's what the fuckin delete button is for.
thanks daniela. i love talking about art... art that can influence... art
that can influence song... art that was forward, fourward, 4ward, 4ard,
4ad...
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**************************** [email protected] ***************
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"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:12:10 -0400
hnia was very good here in their home town of detroit. all the songs were
rocking and warren was solo guitaring a-heck-of-a-lot. i enjoyed it very
much. they did a couple from livonia like "how ghosts effect
relationships."
i interviewed warrn as well with two other people. one guy seemed fuckd up
and like he never heard hnia be4 and the other gal actually knew what she
was talking about and asked some nice questions. anyway, if anyone wants a
free copy of the interview let me know. i will charge for shipping and
handling. we talked about the midwest, theodore roethke, pdm, ian masters,
mark kozolek, country kitchens, his recording equipment, spooky music, the
brother quay, ivo, his 4ad early years, how they got there name and more.
i also recorded the show. they did two from livonia, one from home is in
your head, one from mouth by mouth, and the rest were from stars on e.s.p.
except for two unrecognizable tracks (one he said was new). i'll be giving
away the live tapes and interviews if you answer one question right. the
question will be posted on my web-page on monday. a real review of the
show will be on the page monday, a set list will be there on monday,
transcipts of the interview should be there by at least friday and photos
should be scanned and placed by october fourth.
the live tape includes:
two tracks by mog
the whole set by low...
and all but one and a half songs from hnia (i had to turn the tape over)
the recording quality, i believe is very good except for karin's vocals
which are down in the mix. sorry. the guitar is very hearable and the
crowd noise is non-existing. i like the recording a lot. in some
regards it sounds like a hnia instrumental album maybe with a nice voice
humming along.
so check out the ole page on monday around six o'clock p.m......
**************************** star vein ***********************************
**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
**************************** [email protected] ***************
**************************************************************************
"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
**************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:18:50 -0700
On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Elvia M. Tarango wrote:
> Your late.
My late is what?
You are a moron.
My friends, I did a foolish thing: I bought the new Lisa Germano,
expecting it to me at least 1/4 as good as her last. It is not. Nor is it
1/4 as good as On the Way Down from the Moon Palace. We already felt
sorry for her; it was established that she is rather pathetic but here we
get to watch her operate on herself for 48 minutes. 1996 has been a
rather phenomenal year for music, but this probably would have been the
most sickening display of the year had it come out in 1995 when there
wasn't so much damned competition in that category. If I ever hit a sober
girl it will be Lisa Germano, and this is the last 4AD scum I purchase
until I've heard the next Mojave album in its entirety.
If you'd like to listen to someone be pitiful with STYLE, get the new
Pearl Jam record. If you ever liked them, you will probably like this, as
it is solid through and through, with the weirdness of Vitalogy but also
the satisfying riffy drive of Ten. It really really works.
I changed my mind about the Scala single. It is pretty nice. I hared some
of the album and it blew my top, but I have to wait to buy a copy. :( I
am excited, tho.
Nightmares on Wax simply ruke.
I finally was able to hear the new Gipsy Kings album and I snapped it up
just like that. It is goddam incredible, and towers over everything else
of theirs I have heard. The writing is brilliant, the thing is full of
surprises and everything is just beautiful. I wasn't going to buy it even
if I liked it (which I assumed I would) because I already have several of
their albums and I just don't ever listen to them, but this has really
captivated me.
Lastly, remember Moose? Did you have any idea they put out an album near
the end of last year? Poor Moose, no one understand them or enjoys their
music because it is weird. :( I'll admit I had this thing waiting for me
at E/R for 10 months before I got around to actually buying it from him,
and upon receiving it I didn't listen to it for two weeks at least...
well now this sucker is growing on me. Ol' whatsisface sounds a lot like
Guy Chadwick now, they've lost a lot of their country flair and syrupy
Cocteau chords and this album is uncharacteristically ballsy, not to
mention carefully put together with some nice riffage here and there. I
bought the new REM and pearl Jam and Soundgarden and Metallic and I liked
them and all that, but this is the first rock album I've seriously
enjoyed and seriously listened to since I don't know when. Mojave, or
Monster or something like that.
Could someone please review or forward me reviews for the new
Einsturzende Neubauten and Throwing Muses albums?
Where are Mazzy Star? Where are Opus III? How is the new Curve single?
Old Siouxsie and the Banshees albums are still huge. Jack Dangers is a
minor god. Poe is the only good songwriter allowed on the radio. is Derf
da Serf allowed on pure-impure? There are nine pages of new Squaresoft
coverage in the new issue of Next Generation so if you know what I am
talking about definitely go and buy it. :)
I will put some music from Sarband on my pages soon. Eyes peeled.
The Shutov Assembly may well be the greatest album of all time.
Goodnight,
e
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:43:22 -0400
Add the the ``official`` list of Locust output :
-------------------------------------------------------
Aurbindo / Involution (Ash International)
Locust and Darren Seymour (Seefeel, Scala) do droning soundtracks for
unintentional films. No vocals, few samples, hypnotic.
Scala / Lips+Heaven (Too Pure), Beauty Nowhere (Touch)
The equation might read : Seefeel-Disjecta+Locust=Scala
Annie Williams / Folie (R+S)
Locust and vocalist Annie Williams do a 3-song EP in the vein of the recent
Locust release No-One In The World.
-------------------------------------------------------
I tried e-mailing R+S on the address on CDs they release for more info on
Locust side projects and never got a reply. Can anyone add to this list?
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:52:09 EDT
Paladins - Million Mile Club (CAD6015)
Contrary to what some people have intimated, this isn't a terrible
record. It's well-played blues rock - perfectly competent. But also utterly
pointless. I've no problem at all with this kind of music - live it's a
perfectly agreeable accompaniment to knocking back a few pints, and I've got
records by Muddy Waters and the Butterfield Blues Band. But even when East-West
by the latter came out thirty years ago, this stuff was old hat. In 1996 it is
so cliched. There isn't a riff, phrase, solo or lyric that the world hasn't
heard a million times before. I reckon a night out to see the Paladins live at
some dive bar wouldn't be such a terrible experience. But listening to this
stuff at home is just a total waste of time. 4AD can sign who the fuck they
like, of course - I'm not going to argue the case on those grounds. But to
reject the Kelley Deal 6000 LP, drop Insides and Spoonfed Hybrid in favour of
this is bizarre to the point of masochism. Because this will sell about as well
as The Happy Family.
Interesting point. Promotion in the UK has been non-existent. It's as if
Alma Road is embarassed to be releasing this (who can blame them). I would guess
this has been foisted upon them by the Los Angeles office (or Warners) - perhaps
in revenge for the mighty Gus Gus who will be unmarketable in the US.
The worst record ever released by 4AD remains, in my mind, Mass's Labour
Of Love. But at least that's funny. The Paladins win hands down when it comes
down to the most witless signing.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:46:37 +0200
I saw this in the latest Time Stereo catalogue update:
CONTROL PANEL 12" 45RPM
Can anybody tell me more about it? Is it a Time Stereo release or was it
released on some other label.
Thanks in advance,
Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:16:35 -0400
>a few nights ago while watching 'NBC Sportsworld', during a
>interview w/ some (US) football player of the Buffallo Bills, they played
>a loop of the intro to violaine for a while (minutes). is there a
>relation between nbc and ct (nbc owns capitol?)
It's all part of the new "MSNBCT" deal that Bill Gates and Robin Guthrie
worked out, whereby...
No, EMI owns Capitol. CT's label in the UK, Fontana, is owned by Polygram,
which is owned by Philips. I guess TV and radio people just think CT make
good background music, as insulting as that sounds.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:25:50 -0500
>I saw this in the latest Time Stereo catalogue update:
>
>CONTROL PANEL 12" 45RPM
>
>Can anybody tell me more about it? Is it a Time Stereo release or was it
>released on some other label.
This is warn doing "techno." As a serious techno record, the jury's still
out. For comedic purposes, this is quite a nice little gem. And no, as
far as I can tell, this is not a Time Stereo release; rather it looks like
the work of the same folks in San Francisco who gave us the Princess
Dragon-Mom CD (and that ubiquitous free piece of corn).
There is a Time Stereo logo on the record sleeve, which leads me to believe
some sort of joint release thing might be at work. Dunno.
Getting funky,
hk
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 12:44:26 -0700
einexile the meek wrote:
> If I ever hit a sober girl it will be Lisa Germano.
Do regularly hit drunk girls then??
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:33:02 -0500
On 20 Sep 1996, einexile wrote,
>Could someone please review or forward me reviews for the new
>Einsturzende Neubauten and Throwing Muses albums?
OK.
Don't know much about Einsturzende Neubauten, but the new Throwing Muses
album 'Limbo' is FANTABULOUS! Where 'University' was in your face, 'Limbo'
is in your head. Its edge is that it has no edges, no bold, stark lines,
quite seamless really. Maybe that's why it's called 'Limbo'--it's neither
here nor there. It's got a more relaxed, cooler feel to it. Many of
rocking-est songs on 'Limbo' are going at it full speed and then they
suddenly break down for a few measures to just Kristin and guitar, like a
cool-down session, and then it winds up again. It works! There are big
fuzzy guitar sounds on this album that are used more for texture than
effect. The guitars are obviously less twangy, hence darker sounds.
Kristin's voice is a bit subdued too. It's airy and not as harsh. There is
also some experimenting with her voice; it sounds slightly treated on "Tar
Kissers" and "Tango" (in spots). I love Kristin's voice for letting frailty
and strength to coexist in one breath. There are only two ballad-like songs
on the album, the quite beautiful "Serene" and the hushed "Night Driving".
The others either rock or fall in the middle-ground of Kristin's psyche
somewhere.
Speaking of which, the lyrics are still as eccentric as ever with lines such
"Thank you for chaining me to the bed.
That was sweet." (Tango)
"I never asked you to pay my rent.
Jee-Zus Christ, my lips are red." (Cowbirds)
The lyrics aren't printed on the sleeve which is an annoyance for some. I
don't mind, though.
This album also has a hidden track (White Bikini Sand) 30 seconds or so
after the last track (Shark). The song is minimal Kristin, minimal strings,
and minimal percussion. Very compelling.
Not only do you get great sounds with 'Limbo', but visuals as well; it's an
enhanced CD. Pop it into your CD-ROM and you've got a video-taped
performance of "Ruthie's Knocking".
'Limbo' still has the familiar hooks, strange lyrics, and western sounds
that I've come to love and expect from the Throwing Muses, but it presents
these in a not-so-obvious, almost impressionistic way. If you are a TM fan
in any way you have to have 'Limbo', if you are curious about TM 'Limbo' is
a definite RECOMMEND.
Lysa
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:02:22 EST
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:18:50 -0700 einexile the meek
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:18:50 EDT
Hi all.
I just noticed a copy of Pram's Helium at a nearby store CHEAP.
It's my own stupid fault for not paying more attention to what people
have been saying about it for the past month, but could someone
please quickly post a review of this album? Is is go(o)d?
And, since someone brought the latest Moose album up, I'll take
this opportunity to say that's it's an utter delight; a fabulous
album, but for some reason, tough to describe. It reminds me a little
of "The Comforts of Madness" in a way, but it's drowsier, and more
complacent. Yet alive! and full of fun melodies and good pop.
Um...it's tough to describe (anyone else care to give it a shot?). Get
it, though! It's called "Live a Little, Love a Lot," and I know at
least Siren Disc carries it. Hope I've been a help.
brian
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:25:24 -0400
so delete me if you are an uptight folk who ,
has to get all picky about what should and shouldn't be on the
group list.
James M. Renaud wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, DANIELA L CARRILLO wrote:
>
> > luis, that's very cool, I will love to have some books, although I have
who gives the fuck if we talk about art? quit your complaining you
> uptight folks. that's what the fuckin delete button is for.
>
no my friend, that's what the "fuckin" as you say alt.art newsgroups are
for.
> thanks daniela. i love talking about art... art that can influence... art
> that can influence song... art that was forward, fourward, 4ward, 4ard,
> 4ad...
ok, so at least this post has 4AD content.... it does right??
> **************************** star vein ***********************************
> **************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
> **************************** [email protected]
~ quis
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:19:18 -0400
James M. Renaud wrote:
>
> hnia was very good here in their home town of detroit. all the songs were
> rocking and warren was solo guitaring a-heck-of-a-lot. i enjoyed it very
> much. they did a couple from livonia like "how ghosts effect
> relationships."
>
> i interviewed warrn as well with two other people. one guy seemed fuckd up
> and like he never heard hnia be4 and the other gal actually knew what she
> was talking about and asked some nice questions. anyway, if anyone wants a
> free copy of the interview let me know. i will charge for shipping and
> handling. we talked about the midwest, theodore roethke, pdm, ian masters,
> mark kozolek, country kitchens, his recording equipment, spooky music, the
> brother quay, ivo, his 4ad early years, how they got there name and more.
>
> i also recorded the show. they did two from livonia, one from home is in
> your head, one from mouth by mouth, and the rest were from stars on e.s.p.
> except for two unrecognizable tracks (one he said was new). i'll be giving
> away the live tapes and interviews if you answer one question right. the
> question will be posted on my web-page on monday. a real review of the
> show will be on the page monday, a set list will be there on monday,
> transcipts of the interview should be there by at least friday and photos
> should be scanned and placed by october fourth.
> the live tape includes:
> two tracks by mog
> the whole set by low...
> and all but one and a half songs from hnia (i had to turn the tape over)
> the recording quality, i believe is very good except for karin's vocals
> which are down in the mix. sorry. the guitar is very hearable and the
> crowd noise is non-existing. i like the recording a lot. in some
> regards it sounds like a hnia instrumental album maybe with a nice voice
> humming along.
>
> so check out the ole page on monday around six o'clock p.m......
> **************************** star vein ***********************************
> **************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
> **************************** [email protected] ***************
> **************************************************************************
> "since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
> ***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
> **************************************************************************
> **************************************************************************
Were you the git dancing around, and grabbing at the whale's tail???
~ quis
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:22:30 -0400
James M. Renaud wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, DANIELA L CARRILLO wrote:
>
> > AS A FAN #1 OF THE MEXICAN WOMEN PAINTER, FRIDA KAHLO. I WOULD LIKE TO
> > INTERCHANGE INFORMATION ABOUT HER LIFE AND HER ART WORK WITH YOU. ALSO,
> > I WOULD WANT TO KNOW YOUR OPINION TOWARD THE MEXICAN ART AS WELL AS,
> > LATINAMERICAN ART. THANK YOU, DANIELA CARRILLO.
> >
>
> my favorite artist who ever lived is Remedios Varo. Remedios Varo was born
> in Angles, Spain in 1908. She went to the Academia de San Fernando, the
> same school Salvador Dali was expelled from. After graduating she moved to
> Paris with Benjamin Peret who she would marry. Moving back to Spain wasn't
> a good idea due to the Spanish Civil War.After a few years in Paris,
> Remedios moved to Mexico because of the threat of Germans during World War
> Two. In Mexico, Remedios Varo came into her own and became very popular
> for her painting dealing with mysticism, stars, surrealist dreams,
> superstitions and her amazing sarcasm. Remedios started duing one-woman
> shows for the first time in her life. In the heighth of her career (1963),
> Remedios Varo died just before the relatively young age of fifty-five. In
> 1983 Remedios Varo's post-humous one-woman show at the modern art musuem
> in Mexico City drew the largest attendance in Mexico's history for an art
> exhibit. wednesday, i will have a galleria of Remedios Varo's work (I just
> got permission to exhibit) on my web-zine...
> **************************** star vein ***********************************
> **************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
> **************************** [email protected] ***************
> **************************************************************************
> "since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
> ***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
> **************************************************************************
> **************************************************************************
and the connection to 4AD is....??????? I know there is.... isn't
there????
~ quis
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:45:44 +0000
can someone please email me details on unsubscribing from 4AD-L?
thanks
[email protected]