4ad-l Mail for 09-11-1996

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Subject: Re: Isn't anything
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:25:40 +0930
From: Mike Oxlong (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:49:51 -0700
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: a r kane?
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:45:26 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 2 Winner Notice
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:17:00 -0700
From: Fedgely Shep (guernica@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: a r kane?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:45:29 -0700
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:48:08 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: a r kane?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:11:53 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: HNIA PORTLAND
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:53:04 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Cocteaux/Massive Attack
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 05:55:50 -0400
From: that unsightly fur buildup on your sweaters (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: His Name is Alive in Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:01:53 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:50:35 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 5 Time
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:41:19 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Muses Cancelled
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:34:19 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: the ultimate epic song
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:38:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:43:32 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: thislisty food item
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:26:02 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:18:28 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:15:29 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:51:44 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:48:45 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Gus Gus conquer UK
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:57:20 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: what chainsuck means - was Re: Emma / Chainsuck
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:31:51 -0800
From: jt (jt@NWLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: Commercials...
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:20:05 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Creation, a division of Sony Music Entertainment Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:28:41 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled/DCD Seattle & Vancouver
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:11:35 -0700
From: Juliet_Okeefe@SFU.CA
Subject: Re: what chainsuck means - was Re: Emma / Chainsuck
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:45:25 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive in Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:10:34 -0400
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (quisquose@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Lamb sham
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:37:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:32:59 -0400
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: eyesore, the 4ad database, has been updated
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:52:28 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Psst -- wanna own a FAQ?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:52:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Psst -- wanna own a FAQ?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:34:55 -0800
From: jt (jt@NWLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:42:56 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:25:40 +0930
From: Mike Oxlong (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: Isn't anything


On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE wrote:

> To: 4ad-l@american.edu
>
> On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, the boy in zinc  wrote:
>
> > here are a few i'm looking for:
> [snip]
> > mbv:  isn't anything
>
> This one was re-released by Creation earlier this year, so you shouldn't
> have any problems finding it.
>
>  //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)
>
  Was at a CD fair a  few days ago , and I saw this on vinyl  with a
 sticker aying it had bonus tracks on it ?? Any info. on this ?

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:49:51 -0700
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG)" (gman2@SPRYNET.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news


BiZ wrote:
>scala a new lp by year's end

Scala's full-length, _Beauty Nowhere_, is already out (on LP-only) on TOUCH UK.
There should be a CD version released (also on Touch) towards the end of
September. It includes a cover of Blondie's "Heart of Glass"(!) and is otherwise
supposed to be much in the same vein as the two 7"s/_Lips and Heaven_.

There's yet another Seefeel sideproject, Siren, which features a different
regrouping of band members (I don't think Sarah is involved) and should start
releasing material shortly.

And Seefeel have NOT disbanded - look for the full-length _CH-VOX_ CD/LP on
Rephlex(!) sometime before years'-end.

Don't overlook the new Locust EP, _No-One In The World_ (on R&S/Apollo) while
you're waiting. Gorgeous stuff! Five VERY different Van Hoen-interpretations of
a WMO track from one of the early Astralwerks comps. From "intellijungle" to
dark Aurobindo-like atmospherics, Van Hoen really does do it all.

>seely an lp late this year

Seely's LP is already available - but not on TooPure. It's called _Parentha
See_, and it can be ordered from:

Third Eye
1653 McLendon Ave
Atlanta, GA 30307

I understand that TooPure will be re-releasing this album, perhaps remixed or
rerecorded, but featuring more-or-less the same tracks.

Has anyone managed to find either of these yet?
Both have supposedly been released

 O'RANG - FIELDS AND WAVES (on Echo)
 SILVANIA - GALAX TRAX (DELAY TAMBOR?) (on Elefant)<--feat. Locust remix!

keeping up with the Van Hoens...
GuerillaG


Is there anything more splendid than techno done so well?

Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:45:26 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: a r kane?


> Subject: a r kane?
>
> now, i know i
> have heard rave things about them and their god-like nature.  but can
> anyone elaborate?  what do they sound like?  what are some good albums,
> eps, singles (they had it all) that would be a good starting point? -

The best album to begin with is probably "Americana," as it is made up of
tracks from earlier albums, eps, and singles.  While there are great tracks
NOT on this compilation - it is a good beginning sampler.

P.S. The URL below belongs to the tiny a.r.kane web page that I maintain.

`'`"`'`'`'`"`"`'`'`"`'`"`'`'`'`'`'`'`"`"`'`'`"`'`'`'`'`"`'`'`'`'`"`'`'"`'`'`'
David McCallum                                               mccallum@efn.org
                  http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
 Would clocks tick through time if not for the beat of your heart near mine?


Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:17:00 -0700
From: Fedgely Shep (guernica@HOTMAIL.COM)
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 2 Winner Notice


Dear CJ ,

Congrats!  You are the lucky winner of the Air Miami promo 12" single called "I
Hate Milk Milk".  You answered the question about what the names of Lisa
Germano's cats are correctly and you were the first to reply.  To receive your
12", simply e-mail me back your postal address. The 12" will then be sent to
your doorstep directly!

Thanks to all for partaking in this second in a series of 4AD Give-
Aways I'll be conducting in the future months, usually on some random Sunday or
Monday...  There will be one more give-away in September, so stay tuned!

Fedgely Shep
guernica@hotmail.com


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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:45:29 -0700
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Re: a r kane?


At 08:35 PM 9/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
>so here i get to bow my head in shame at never having knowingly heard a
>r kane.  however, while prowling the good ol' used bins of the local
>record shop, i came across albums and singles by them.  now, i know i
>have heard rave things about them and their god-like nature.  but can
>anyone elaborate?  what do they sound like?  what are some good albums,
>eps, singles (they had it all) that would be a good starting point? -
>drew

I really love the Lollita ep. It's a great example of the use of noise as a
beautiful effect in a pop song. It's produced by Robin Guthrie so there's
lot's of mid-80's era Cocteau guitar tones, and big ass Treasuresque drums.
Spooky, crushing, beautiful...

-Paul

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:48:08 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news


hi!

adam is the pretty cool guy who created puree, th' too pure fanzine, and if
you don't have one already, please e-mail me yr home address so i can send
one to you and put you on our mailing list. (i'll put our address down below)
our current line up consists of: jack, long fin killie, mouse on mars, laika,
scala, and seely.

seely is the first us band to be signed by too pure and have a thislisty
quality to them. seely is a 4 piece band: 2 guys and 2 girls from atlanta,
georgia. to gil who wrote about "parentha see", seely's debut release on
third eye records in atlanta, the too pure release of seely's album is called
"julie only" and contains all the tracks from "parentha see" plus 2 new
tracks re-recorded at idful studios with tortoise' s john mcentire. "julie
only" will be released on october 15th.

laika will probably release something new by the end of this year...i heard
some of their demos for the next lp and they sound really good...so fans of
their first lp will definitely want to check this one out when it comes out.

laters,
pete
too pure

p.s. here's our address:
too pure
3500 w. olive ave. #1550
burbank, ca 90515

p.p.s  to those who already have received puree, please let me know what you
think! thanks!


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:11:53 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: a r kane?

              96 08:35:51 pm

 drew schwickerath  wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 1996
 (Subject: a r kane?)
 > so here i get to bow my head in shame at never having knowingly
 > heard a r kane.  however, while prowling the good ol' used bins of
 > the local record shop, i came across albums and singles by them.
 > now, i know i have heard rave things about them and their god-like
 > nature.  but can anyone elaborate? what do they sound like? what
 > are some good albums, eps, singles (they had it all) that would be
 > a good starting point? - drew

Their best stuff (as is so often the case) is the earliest.  If you can
find the One Little Indian single ("When You're Sad"), the 4AD single
("Lollita") or either of the first couple of Rough Trade EPs ("Up Home",
"Love Sick"), buy them immediately.  The first album, "69", is also
essential (and sounds eerily like Slowdive's "Pygmalion" in parts,
especially the second side).  Later stuff (the album "i", single "Pop",
remix album "Rem'i'xes") is not quite as good, and the comeback album
and single on Third Stone are best avoided.  As David McCallum says,
"Americana" is a good compilation.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 11/09/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Orbital - In Sides

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:53:04 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA PORTLAND


On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, shar everett wrote:

> great show in portland last night - karin was a delight - very friendly
> poloroid fiesta... was anyone elese on this list there???

Meant to be there but found a very comfortable spot on my bed and stayed
there instead.  I heard the show was sold out by 9:30!  Wow, didn't know
they were so popular around here.  Have the rest of the shows been selling
out?

aaron


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 05:55:50 -0400
From: that unsightly fur buildup on your sweaters (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Cocteaux/Massive Attack


I picked up one of the Violaine EPs the other day at Tower (in the special
"Britpop" section, next to the Gary Barlow singles and the books on East 17
and Blur - cheers). I got the one with "Alice" and maybe this has been
mentioned before, or maybe it's me, but does anyone else think it sounds
like someone else is singing along with Liz, specifically the "Alice Alice
Alice" bit?

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>
> I'll stand in front of you    take the force of the blow    protection

Y'know, I can't wait to hear Tina Turner's version of "Unfinished Sympathy".
Actually, maybe I can.


Larry


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:01:53 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: His Name is Alive in Seattle


Sorry if this repeats anything...

Got back a while ago from the show at the Tractor Tavern.  Great stuff.
[fellow who's name I can't remember, from a band whose name I can't
remember -- sorry, it's real late] on bass.  This wasn't album HNIA, this
was ROCK HNIA!  (it's the "new way") Boy, did they rock.  They're gonna
get kicked off 4AD soon for those killer solos...  What a great show.  You
know, I've heard these songs over and over again over the years (weeks,
whatever), but I never imagined them like this.  Completely unexpected
performance, and it worked perfectly.  I never would have imagined the
songs like that.  No puppet show, but they had the whale (dion?) dancing
around on and off stage for part of the show, and the lion/monkey
display... I took pictures, let's see if they come out.  But no tshirts.
I wanted to buy a HNIA tshirt. :(

notes -- they weren't selling live tapes from other shows on the tour.
Too much work for Warren - he was staying up all night copying... etc.  A
few other people in the audience were recording, but who knows about
copies...  Oh -- Warren said he likes Ultraman better than Kamen Rider
because Ultraman is easier to draw.  Absolutely everyone in the band was
very polite (forget this "so and so is bitchy" and "so and so is a power
freak" crap).  I got one of the last two Time Stereo-edition Univ.
Frequencies 7"s.  I don't know if they have any more in MI or not.

Too good for words.  Give me a few weeks to process it and then maybe I'll
write a better review.

Now off to Japan...

Mike


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:50:35 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news

              Sep 11, 96 03:48:08 am

> seely is the first us band to be signed by too pure and have a thislisty
> quality to them. seely is a 4 piece band: 2 guys and 2 girls from atlanta,
> georgia. to gil who wrote about "parentha see", seely's debut release on
> third eye records in atlanta, the too pure release of seely's album is called
> "julie only" and contains all the tracks from "parentha see" plus 2 new
> tracks re-recorded at idful studios with tortoise' s john mcentire. "julie
> only" will be released on october 15th.

First off, Seely is very good and you should all check them out when Julie
Only is released next month.  And this opinion has nothing to do with
having become acquainted with one of the members of the band....  Besides
Julie Only having more tracks, everything has been re-recorded and
promises to have a slighty truer sound.  And I imagine that it would be
hard to find Parentha See outside the southeast us.

So, will Seely be touring to support their upcoming album? I haven't had a
chance to check with my friend...

-greg


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:41:19 PST
From: Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: 5 Time


Real world label!!!!!!
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:57:59 -0700 Jeff Keibel 
>5 things this time...
>
>1. Has anyone seen a French 7-track promo CD called "Live" from
>Tarnation
>before??  If so, could you please e-mail me a tracklisting and a
>catalogue number?  Thanks!!
>
>2. The last I heard, The Paladins new album "Million Mile Club"
>(CAD6015/
>CAD6015CD) will be issued on October 7th in the UK.  A recent ad in
>Option magazine listed a US release (46367) as being released on
>September 24th.  Does anyone know if the UK date has been moved ahead
>as
>well??  There sure are lots of other pre-4AD Paladins releases out
>there
>judging by the various net CD stores I've surfed through lately!
>
>3. While channel surfing Monday afternoon, I noticed a live press
>conference on the community channel involving The Toronto Film
>Festival
>and one of the films featured this year called "Albino Alligator".
>The
>film stars my favorite actor Kevin Spacey (who directs, too!!!) as
>well
>as Matt Dillon and Faye Dunnaway.  Also on the panel of celebrities
>was
>4AD's very own Michael Brook, who is doing the soundtrack.  So, keep
>an
>eye out for the soundtrack if your into Michael Brook.  It seems he
>puts
>out more stuff on other labels rather than 4AD lately or is it just
>me?
>
>4. I've noticed a few places on the net selling a US "Slow Dust" CD
>single from Belly.  Is there such a thing or is this just a
>Sire/Reprise
>promo, specifically PRO-CD-6131??
>
>5. ...and while on the subject of US CD singles, espeacially from
>Warner
>Bros., what is the purpose of putting out R.E.M.'s (and other bands)
>new
>single out on a two-track CD single as well as a four-track CD Maxi-
>single???  Is this just another way for die hard fans to buy the same
>songs a multiple of times?
>
>Jeff Keibel
>Toronto, ON
>CANADA
>redshift@interlog.com
>


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:34:19 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Muses Cancelled


Got back home from work tonight to find a message on my answerphone from TOCTA
ticket agency in Edinburgh to say that the Muses Glasgow gig at the Arches on
the 15th has been cancelled. I tried to call them, (TOCTA) but no one answered.
I don't know how this affects Manchester/Dublin/London, but I would guess that
they may be off too. When I found out more, I'll post more. If anybody out there
knows the reason, please share it. Obviously I'm pissed off, but I also hope
that this (if confirmed) is nothing to do with pregnancy complications. Alma
Road - we're waiting for some info.

- Dez


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:38:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: the ultimate epic song


Bruce Mcguire confesses:
>over three hours of sister ray, including joy division's version from
>still. it was glorious. i think the longest version we found was around 27
>minutes from the infamous cleveland cave shows.

Then you could start on all the songs that use the same riff, starting
with The Modern Lovers' "Roadrunner", through Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper's
"Jesus at McDonalds", and ending with "Super-Electric" and seven or eight
more Stereolab songs :)

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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:43:32 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news


Gil G, who has forsaken AOL at last, reveals:
>Don't overlook the new Locust EP, _No-One In The World_ (on R&S/Apollo) while
>you're waiting. Gorgeous stuff! Five VERY different Van
>Hoen-interpretations of
>a WMO track from one of the early Astralwerks comps. From "intellijungle" to
>dark Aurobindo-like atmospherics, Van Hoen really does do it all.

That's WFO, and it's on "Excursions In Ambience 2". One of my all-time
favorites; it takes a bit of Karen Carpenter singing (from "Hurting Each
Other", I believe) and loops it over a buncha blissed-out synths, with a
bassline and techno beat gradually fading in and taking over.
Does this imply that Van Hoen was WFO? I've always wondered if they had
any other songs...

My head is spinning from all the Seefeel recombinations. Jeez, they're
getting as hard to follow as Wire were!

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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:26:02 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: thislisty food item


awhile back someone mentioned a cheesy snack called "twisterellas," that
they saw advertised on tv.  has anyone seen these yet?  i've been keeping
an eye out off and on...if someone could get his/her hands on a box (or
however they package these things), i'd repay him/her...

thanks,

BiZ

"The submarine vessel has given me dominion over the ocean."

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:18:28 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news


On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Gil Gershman (GuerillaG) wrote:

> There's yet another Seefeel sideproject, Siren, which features a different
> regrouping of band members (I don't think Sarah is involved) and should start
> releasing material shortly.


correction--- siren was scala's original name...for some reason they
changed it.  so it's the same people, same songs- and sarah was most
definitely involved..........

lips & tears,
lorelei :)


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:15:29 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: too pure news


>BiZ wrote:
>>scala a new lp by year's end
>
>Scala's full-length, _Beauty Nowhere_, is already out (on LP-only) on TOUCH UK.
>There should be a CD version released (also on Touch) towards the end of
>September. It includes a cover of Blondie's "Heart of Glass"(!) and is
>otherwise
>supposed to be much in the same vein as the two 7"s/_Lips and Heaven_.

so then why are scala still on the list of current too pure artists?  are
they working on something else for too pure or is either gil or lushmuse
misinformed?  in short, wassup?  somebody must know the answer.

thanks,

BiZ

"The submarine vessel has given me dominion over the ocean."


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:51:44 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled


Dez-

i had just read this on the Throwing Muses web page when i then read your
e-mail message.  Hope this helps to clarify things:

Posted by BillyO on September 11, 1996 at 09:10:21:

Due to complications in Kristin's pregnancy, Throwing Muses Tour dates in
the UK and Europe have
been cancelled...Kristin is currently under doctor's care, and will be
spending quite a while in bed
and at home...
The physical strain of the US promo tour caused Kristin's body to go into a
pre-labor state (singing,
and sustaining notes at that volume, is much like "pushing" in labor), in
effect fooling itself into
thinking it was time to have the baby...Needless to say a delivery at this
time would be disastrous,
threatening the lives of both mother and baby...
Throwing Muses deeply regrets having to cancel these dates, and asks for
your indulgence and
understanding...
Stay in touch, we will...
Love,
Throwing Muses

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:48:45 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled


>Due to complications in Kristin's pregnancy, Throwing Muses Tour dates in
>the UK and Europe have
>been cancelled...

Oh no! Not again! This is the sixth concert (five of them 4AD artists)
that's been cancelled...

Why do people want to have baby's in the first place???


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, September 11, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:57:20 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Gus Gus conquer UK


In this month's Muzik mag, not only is Chocolate single of the month, but the
promo ep is number 5 in the UK DJ Returns chart. Seems Gus Gus fever is breaking
out across the nation.

- Dez


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:31:51 -0800
From: jt (jt@NWLINK.COM)
Subject: what chainsuck means - was Re: Emma / Chainsuck


>> Sounds promising, but *Chainsuck*?! Cripes, what a name...
>
>I've seen this disc numerous times and have been attracted to the artwork,
>but the
>name made me wonder...

While I don't know if this has anything to do with where the band got their
name, "chainsuck" is a problem some bicycles get... seriously.  I've only
heard it applied to mountain bikes (but I've also been out of it since I
heard the marketing forces bring it to life some years ago ;)

This is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, when the top side of the
chain, which is coming around from the back to the front gears, slacks and
gets locked up in the frame.

JT

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:20:05 -0700
From: beswick (beswick@scf-fs.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Commercials...


>
> So what's the tally at this point?
>

There was some radio commercial on KIIS FM last week (Top 40, probably
never even heard of Lush), I don't remember what it was for, but they
looped the intro guitar from Ladykillers and played it in the
background...

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:28:41 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Creation, a division of Sony Music Entertainment Inc.


While rooting through the bargain bins at Sam's today I came across a
cool video compilation called "The Story Of Creation".  It was released
in 1992 by Warner Reprise Video and features a bunch of videos each by
Primal Scream, Ride and My Bloody Valentine.  The ident number is 38278-3
and in addition the vids there are interviews with the band members as
well as cool sound "burps" from label boss Alan McGee, who is interviewed
sitting behind his desk while remembering fond moments in the Creation
history.  The cover art is from Christine Cano who also designed Throwing
Muses "Not Too Soon" CD single cover art.  Neat item at $3.99!!

Also, on a different topic, Lisa Germano's album comes out on the same
day as her former boss Mr. Mellencamp's new long-player.  Coincidence??

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:11:35 -0700
From: Juliet_Okeefe@SFU.CA
Subject: Re: Muses Cancelled/DCD Seattle & Vancouver


>>Due to complications in Kristin's pregnancy, Throwing Muses Tour dates in
>>the UK and Europe have
>>been cancelled...
>
>Oh no! Not again! This is the sixth concert (five of them 4AD artists)
>that's been cancelled...
>
>Why do people want to have baby's in the first place???

Jesus, Emiel, the proper response to this situation is to say:

I hope that Kristin and the baby are okay. Cancel whatever
you need to cancel and get back to us when you can.

Sheesh.

Anyway. DCD in Seattle and Vancouver both were wonderful,
and I concur with the general opinion that the Spiritchaser songs
needed to be heard live, with all that thunderous percussion,
to really work. Rakim with almost everyone on drums and
percussion was perfect. At the Vancouver show Brendan
sang the song he did for the 13yi CD - the Tim Buckley
cover - for a final encore.

Naturally audience response in both cities was nothing
short of estatic. I did believe that DCD could do no wrong,
but Spiritchaser tested that - and the first time I heard it
was in damn near ideal conditions: driving through the Cascade
mountains with a large cappucino ice cream cone in my hand, on
my way to Seattle for a romantic rendevous. My brain was swimming
with love endorphins and sugar molecules, and I still wasn't grabbed by
Spiritchaser in any way except for a few moments in a few songs.
So I'm glad I saw the tour; the CD has quickly worked its way
to the bottom of the pile, and will probably stay there.

Well, that's my annual post to 4AD-l. Thanks for your
indulgence. :)

Juliet (who knows all about being confined to bed during
a high risk pregnancy. It's not a lot of fun.)

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:45:25 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: what chainsuck means - was Re: Emma / Chainsuck


Who knows, you could be right.

The lead singer (they live in Boston) rides around on a moped/scooter thing.
She's funny.  I don't know if they're into mountain bikes, but you never know.

They put on a good live show, too.  I've heard one of their new songs on
local radio and I kinda like it.  The Curve references are rather accurate,
but at least Chainsuck don't water it down and make it "accessible" like
some "rubbish" we know.

Mike
iceblink@tiac.net



At 01:31 PM 9/11/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>> Sounds promising, but *Chainsuck*?! Cripes, what a name...
>>
>>I've seen this disc numerous times and have been attracted to the artwork,
>>but the
>>name made me wonder...
>
>While I don't know if this has anything to do with where the band got their
>name, "chainsuck" is a problem some bicycles get... seriously.  I've only
>heard it applied to mountain bikes (but I've also been out of it since I
>heard the marketing forces bring it to life some years ago ;)
>
>This is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, when the top side of the
>chain, which is coming around from the back to the front gears, slacks and
>gets locked up in the frame.
>
>JT
>
>

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:10:34 -0400
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (quisquose@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive in Seattle


Heffalump wrote:
>  I got one of the last two Time Stereo-edition Univ.
> Frequencies 7"s.  I don't know if they have any more in MI or not.
>
> Now off to Japan...
>
> Mike


the ltd. ed. Universal Frequencies stuff was limited to 50 copies each
of the 7" and the CD ep. (This according to Davin...)

Theystarted selling about a week or two before the tour.  I don't know
if they took all what was left on the road, or if they saved some behind
in Livonia....contact Davin at timeSTEREO to be sure~~

~blu

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:37:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Lamb sham


LAMB
Lamb
Fontana
Tentative Instore Date: September 25
File under: Trip-hop

* Being touted as the Portishead of drum 'n' bass, Lamb are a
Manchester-based duo - Louise Rhodes & Andrew Barlow

* The duo's first two EPs - "Cotton Wool" (complete with remixes from
Fila Brazillia & A Guy Called Gerald) & "Gold"- were not only critically
acclaimed & collectors' items - but made Lamb the most talked about new
band in England - and the buzz is starting to translate to North America.
The album features a hidden track - the Fila Brazillia remix of "Cotton
Wool"

CD
532 968-2

Track Listing
Lusty / God Bless / Cottonwool / Trans Fatty Acid / Zero / Merge /
Gold (original) / Closer / Gorecki / Feel

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:32:59 -0400
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news


In a message dated 96-09-11 01:39:30 EDT, you write:

<< Seely's LP is already available - but not on TooPure. It's called
_Parentha
 See_, and it can be ordered from:

 Third Eye
 1653 McLendon Ave
 Atlanta, GA 30307

 I understand that TooPure will be re-releasing this album, perhaps remixed
or
 rerecorded, but featuring more-or-less the same tracks.

 Has anyone managed to find either of these yet?
 Both have supposedly been released
  >>
i have this . it is very good.  production quality will be much better when
it is released.  i would wait to get it from too pure.  it should be out very
soon.

jennifer


Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:52:28 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: eyesore, the 4ad database, has been updated


I've now gone through the submissions I've gotten over the past couple
of months and added them to the database.  (I've also added scans for
the newer releases.)

Point your web browser to .

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:52:52 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Psst -- wanna own a FAQ?


I think it's time for me to 'fess up to what's been a fait accompli for
the past few months -- I'm not maintaining the 4AD-L FAQ anymore.
Basically I haven't had time, and my interests have been drifting away
from 4AD (or rather, 4AD's been drifting away from what I'd call
interesting) which reduces my motivation. Nor does it help when certain
people accuse me of list fascism when I refer people to the FAQ, although
that's only a minor factor.

So -- is anyone out there fired up with the desire to take ownership of,
improve and maintain the FAQ? You do need to have a Web site to integrate
it into. If so, please let me know. Thanks!


__________          ___________________          ________________________
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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

    'Life beneath the wing of the dark shape too big to see, rising.'
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:34:55 -0800
From: jt (jt@NWLINK.COM)
Subject: Re: Psst -- wanna own a FAQ?


>So -- is anyone out there fired up with the desire to take ownership of,
>improve and maintain the FAQ? You do need to have a Web site to integrate
>it into. If so, please let me know. Thanks!

I'm VERY interested - I not only have a web site I can put it on, I also
have a domain! :)

Please let me know... thanks!

JT


Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:42:56 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: too pure news


hey!

about scala, i am not sure when they will have a full length out on too pure
but "beauty nowhere" ,released on touch, may be scala's demo...i'm not sure
what the track listing of that release is but the tape i have with their
cover of blondie's "heart of glass" is called "touch to:29", which is the
same tape that adam promised to tape you if you send us a blank tape at the
office...it is a cool demo, which may be why touch is releasing it. i don't
know why too pure did not put it out.

pete


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