Subject: Re: Unrest's Hydro & hidden picture
Subject: Emma misjudged / Chainsuck
Subject: RIDE info/only subliminally thislisty, ACHTUNG!
Subject: N. Sudden & D. Kunsworth/Jacobites re-issue ?
Subject: Re: Smiling (Emma)
Subject: Re: RIDE info (VERY OLD)
Subject: 4AD Give-Away # 2
Subject: Re: RIDE info/only subliminally thislisty, ACHTUNG!
Subject: Re: Emma misjudged / Chainsuck
Subject: a esp/hnia question
Subject: Re: Unrest's Hydro & hidden picture
Subject: Re: Dreampop compilation? cocteaus, magnetic feilds,
Subject: Re: Unrest's Hydro & hidden picture
Subject: Desperately seeking Medicine's "5ive" EP on Creation...
Subject: Re: Dreampop compilation? cocteaus, magnetic feilds,
Subject: Re: RIDE info/only subliminally thislisty, ACHTUNG!
Subject: Re: Unrest's Hydro & hidden picture
Subject: cds for sale
Subject: washington d.c. stores.
Subject: Please Help!
Subject: DCD red vinyl 12"
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:46:45 +0200
>Just picked up a copy of Unrest's 'Cath Carrol' CD single (or EP or
>whatever it was), from a local second-hand CD store here in Oz for $1.
>a poppy toon called 'Goodbye'
>(since they were breaking up, I suppose?).
The EP was released September 1993. Unrest broke up January 1994.
> Anyway, enough of this rant. My second question is this: the copy of
>'Cath Carrol' I picked up was a digipak, and behind the black plastic bit
>that holds the CD is a photograph of ... something. I may be wrong, but I
>think that I can see a hand, and someone's willy.
You're lucky!! There are only very few copies around with this pic. The hand
and the willy belong to the same person. The 'hidden willy' can also be
found in the
'Perfect Teeth' CD booklet (pages 14 & 15) and on the innerbag of the
Perfect Teeth' LP. But if you want the full picture, try to get a copy of
the Unrest 'Animal Park' 7", on Teenbeat.
Frank
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:36:13 -0400
>Just a thought... perhaps... just possibly... it's her natural expression
and she's not
>"trying to be cool". I hate it when people tell ME "Cheer up, it may never
happen" >just because *I* don't smile that often. And I'm not "trying to be
cool" either...
>Not everyone has a smile painted on their faces.
>
>So she doesn't smile as often as some. Doesn't it make it oh so
> special when she does so spontaneously, rather than by request?
> And such a lovely smile as well.
>Just because someone doesn't smile all the time
>doesn't have to mean that she's icy and distant,
>just reserved. She's probably having the time of her life
>playing up there, but it's just her style not to show it.
> And believe me there's nothing more annoying
>than someone trying to get you to "cheer up" and look
>more like your having fun when you're feeling just fine and
>it's not possible for you to be a 'life of the party' type.
>So then you're ignored and it hurts.... Anyway, don't think
>of "us" as cold and uncaring. We're not. It's just that
>we don't know how to appear any other way!
Point taken. I've seen her smile sometimes. And I guess it beats being one
of those insincere idiots with perma-grins (most of them end up on television).
I have the same thing that Chris and Brant mentioned, except that I'm
someone who doesn't *talk* very much. People really think there's something
wrong with you if you're not constantly gabbing.
3 longers later,
Larry
Oh yeah, there's this too:
>think Garbage sounds like Curve? check out Chainsuck! Curve,
>CT and MBV all rolled into one.
Sounds promising, but *Chainsuck*?! Cripes, what a name...
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:22:26 -0400
i just pulled this off from saturday's ATN newsfeed.
i used to like ride....i think some of you did/do too.
anyways, if you dont like them, dont read the following:
The ride for
the Oxford, England
drone band Ride, is over. According to sources at the
band's former label, Elektra, the group decided to call it
quits after the release of what was to be their swan-song,
Tarantula in March of this year, citing, you guessed it,
"musical differences." Singer/songwriter Mark Gardener and
wife Ida are still signed to Elektra associate label
East/West
and are currently searching for a name for their band since
their first choice, Kool-Aid, didn't fly with the suits and
their
second choice, Stick, was, surprisingly, already taken. The
duo are currently recording and hope to have their debut
out
by this time next year. Former Ride drummer Laurence
Colbert was in California recently to record with a band
called Cherry Smash and lead guitarist/singer Andy Bell
played the Lollipop Festival in Sweden this summer fronting
a new band.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:22:54 -0500
Hey Folks--
Rumor had it that some record company was going to compile the mid-80's eps
by the Jacobites (ie--Shame for the Angels, Pin Your Heart..., When the
Rain...) on CD. This was around the time that the 2 studio LPs were
re-issued--I think by Regency in the UK and Mammoth in the US. I've
contacted Mammoth and they do not plan to issue any more Jacobites' discs in
the US because the others have sold poorly. I've seen listings for a couple
of new titles released in the UK or on the Continent. Do any of these
include the ep's? I'm especially curious about an album called "Hawks Get
Religion." It's been advertised as a compilation with unreleased material,
but I can't get a track listing. I know there was an earlier compilation
called "Fortune and Fame." Does anyone know if this contained any of the ep
tracks?
Thanks for your time. Any info would be much appreciated.
Neshtikin Byram
who sometimes wishes his family had emigrated to the UK or Germany instead...
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:18:11 -0400
I must agree with Emma when it comes to the smiling thing. But I also agree
that her demeanor can sometimes be one of a complete BITCH. I ran into her
at the bar at a Lush show once (while the opening act were playing) and said
"Hi. Look forward to your show tonight..." and she looked at me as if I'd
just farted. \/\/hatever. L7 are more polite. I still love Lush and think
Emma's a cool guitarist and songwriter, but she needs to adjust that
attitude just a little.
But as for the smiling business...I hate it when someone comes up to me at a
bar or club and says "You should smile!" What the fuck is that supposed to
mean?! I look around and _I_ don't see everyone with a silly grin pasted on
their faces! At WHAT am I supposed to be smiling if I'm just standing there
by myself?? I think someone saying that is just their lousy way of breaking
the ice...
Mike
[email protected]
At 06:54 PM 9/8/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, hirvea vihrea wrote:
>
>> >>>Emma: "I HATE it when people tell me to smile!"
>> >>
>> >>Well, maybe if you did smile (of your own volition) a bit more often, you
>> >>wouldn't appear to have all the charm and warmth of a frozen haddock.
>> >
>> >Oh I say! That's more than a little cruel, not to mention bitchy!
>>
>> But come on, just look at her! What makes her think she has to be all icy
>> and distant - because she thinks it looks cool?
>
>Not everyone has a smile painted on their faces.
>
>So she doesn't smile as often as some. Doesn't it make it oh so
> special when she does so spontaneously, rather than by request?
> And such a lovely smile as well.
>
>I can't stop listening to Talulah Gosh. I hate myself for listening
> to reissued music, makes me feel more the ol' geezer. But oh well,
> the stuff rules, i don't see how anyone can resist 'em.
>
>kagin
>
>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:36:00 +0100
from "lee harvey fnordwald" at Sep 9, 96 08:22:26 am
lee harvey fnordwald Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:08:01 -0700
For one lucky 4ad-l reader/poster:
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receive a copy of the UK promo 12" "I Hate Milk Milk" from Air Miami which was
released as MIAMI 1 in the fall of 1995 as a limited edition of 500.
"First" is defined as earliest received e-mail based on time mail reaches my in
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The question is... Lisa Germano has two cats. Name them BOTH correctly and be
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:37:42 -0800
>Singer/songwriter Mark Gardener and
> wife Ida are still signed to Elektra associate label
> East/West
Isn't (Creation recording artist) Idha Andy Bell's wife, not Mark's?
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:31:53 -0700
hirvea vihrea wrote:
>
> >Just a thought... perhaps... just possibly... it's her natural expression
> and she's not
> >"trying to be cool". I hate it when people tell ME "Cheer up, it may never
> happen" >just because *I* don't smile that often. And I'm not "trying to be
> cool" either...
>
> >Not everyone has a smile painted on their faces.
> >
> >So she doesn't smile as often as some. Doesn't it make it oh so
> > special when she does so spontaneously, rather than by request?
> > And such a lovely smile as well.
>
> >Just because someone doesn't smile all the time
> >doesn't have to mean that she's icy and distant,
> >just reserved. She's probably having the time of her life
> >playing up there, but it's just her style not to show it.
>
> > And believe me there's nothing more annoying
> >than someone trying to get you to "cheer up" and look
> >more like your having fun when you're feeling just fine and
> >it's not possible for you to be a 'life of the party' type.
> >So then you're ignored and it hurts.... Anyway, don't think
> >of "us" as cold and uncaring. We're not. It's just that
> >we don't know how to appear any other way!
>
> Point taken. I've seen her smile sometimes. And I guess it beats being one
> of those insincere idiots with perma-grins (most of them end up on television)
>
> I have the same thing that Chris and Brant mentioned, except that I'm
> someone who doesn't *talk* very much. People really think there's something
> wrong with you if you're not constantly gabbing.
>
> 3 longers later,
>
> Larry
>
> Oh yeah, there's this too:
>
> >think Garbage sounds like Curve? check out Chainsuck! Curve,
> >CT and MBV all rolled into one.
>
> Sounds promising, but *Chainsuck*?! Cripes, what a name...
I've seen this disc numerous times and have been attracted to the artwork, but t
e
name made me wonder...
Jon
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:04:24 EDT
hey guys,
after seeing throwing muses wednesday night, i came home and started
to watch kristen's performance at the all virgos are mad in store
appearrance. when i started the tape, it was at the point where
masters/warren were playing. while i'm watching this, they start
playing a song that has the (i'm almost positive)exact same guitar
part as "this world is not my home". can anyone, who has this video
that some kind soul(i remember his name... i just don't want him
to get hundreds of requests for a copy) recorded, confirm this?
i lent my copy to a friend the next day, and have forgotten about
it until today.
also, i saw the wedding present in washington, dc thursday night.
david gedge is so good. i know the new single "2,3, go" is out, but
when does the full-length come out?
and another thing, i drove through the eye of hurricane fran to see
the cure in atlanta friday night. i would not have gone, but i had
five other people's tickets. if ten years ago someone would of said
one day i would see shirtless rednecks drinking bud at a cure concert,
i would have fell to the ground in hysterics. egads...
the axl rose/kick boxer guy dancing near me was even scarier. after
the show, i was glad i went. i've seen them five times previously, and
this was the first time i witnessed "faith". i returned home last night
to durham, nc to find that power was still out. it took me about fifteen
minutes to back into the shower this mourning.
i'll stop bitching now. if anyone has an answer to my question, could
you please email me.
thanks,
alan
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:40:31 PST
Klaus schultze boring?! you gotta be kidding! obviously you dont listen
to any of the mindblowing ambient music thats going on out there. and
without progrock alot of the bands discussed on this list wouldnt exist!
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:36:06 +1000 Geoff Elgey
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:00:27 -0400
this heading is way too long!
> > Versus "Know Nothing"
> > Swirlies "House of Pancake"
> > Magnetic Feilds "100,000 Fireflies"
appear on a slumberland compilation, "one last kiss."
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:52:00 -0700
Geoff Elgey wrote:
> What really made me buy it, though, was the last track, a 33-minute
>toon called 'Hydro'. Now I thought that rock bands making elongated
>pieces went out around 1974 with Yes/Genesis/ELP (shudder!). This one's
>not too bad though: it sounds like a jam session that just forget to stop
>somewhere along the line. In fact, it didn't lose my interest at all. So
>there you go.
"Hydro", I think, is an homage to (and reducto-ad-absurdam of) Stereolab,
whom Unrest toured with (and released a split single with) in 1993. It's
got that "single chord drone with occasional changes" sound that a lot of
Stereolab has. If you like "Hydro" I'd definitely recommend that you
check out Stereolab -- try "Transient Random-Noise Bursts With
Announcements" first, as it's the album that was current at the time they
and Unrest were touring, and it features the 17-minute "Jenny Ondioline",
an excellent very long track.
>But what about 'rock' artists/groups making long pieces? Is this still
>regarded as pompous/pretentious twaddle?
There's always Sonic Youth's "Expressway To Yr Skull", which on the LP
version is infinitely long thanks to a lock-groove at the end.
Bark Psychosis' "Scum" (available on their "Independency compilation,
it's great, buy it) is a 21-minute masterpiece that goes from slowed-down
jazzy dub to sheets of white noise and back again...
Most of the good long rock pieces being done now seem to be strongly
influenced (in ways other than length!) by
ambient/techno/dub/electronica, which in my book tends to make them quite
interesting. Whereas the dreaded 70's prog-rock extravaganzas were
usually influenced by boring Romantic-era classical music (ELP were major
offenders here.) The exception there being some of the "Krautrock" bands
(Neu!, Can, etc.) whose influence on current music is a very positive one.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:47:41 -0700
I've been trying to find this EP for years in stores, but I've only seen
a copy of it _once_, in a radio station. I've been obsessed with the
version of Time Baby on it ever since (even the version with Liz
Frasier's vocals isn't a patch on "Time Baby II", as far as I'm
concerned). If I'd known how much trouble it was going to cause me, I
would have stolen the damn thing. I _really_ want a copy badly -- I will
pay _well_ for it and might be amenable to trading away rarities. If you
have a copy that you're willing to part with, get in touch with
me. Barring that, if anybody has a copy that they'd be willing to dub
onto tape for me, that would be an acceptable 2nd.
desperately yours,
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:23:36 -0700
James M. Renaud writes:
>> > Versus "Know Nothing"
>> > Swirlies "House of Pancake"
>> > Magnetic Feilds "100,000 Fireflies"
>
>appear on a slumberland compilation, "one last kiss."
No, only the Magnetic Fields song is on that comp, and it's from SpinArt,
not Slumberland. "House Of Pancake" is, I believe, on the "Brokedick Car"
EP (and the original "Pancake" is on "Blondertongueaudiobaton".) Not sure
about the Versus song, it might be on "Dead Leaves".
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:40:11 -0700
I'm sorry but this is one of the stupidest things i've read that's come
from atn. damn, they're usually right on.
first of all, they reported the breakup themselves way back in december so
it's stupid that they're trying to make it sound like news now.
then, as someone else points out in later message (yes, i can see the
future), Idha (not Ida) is married to Andy, not Mark. She's actually one
of the biggest reasons for the band's breakup, in a roundabout way. the
kool-aid part is right. i didn't know about stick. Mark is actually
working with a couple of people i believe; someone from big audio dynamite
or something. the only duo around is Andy and some guy named Alex Lowe.
That's Andy's new "band" that played the lollipop fest.
duh
aaron
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 18:08:38 -0400
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
> "Hydro", I think, is an homage to (and reducto-ad-absurdam of) Stereolab,
> whom Unrest toured with (and released a split single with) in 1993. It's
> got that "single chord drone with occasional changes" sound that a lot of
> Stereolab has. If you like "Hydro" I'd definitely recommend that you
> check out Stereolab -- try "Transient Random-Noise Bursts With
> Announcements" first, as it's the album that was current at the time they
> and Unrest were touring, and it features the 17-minute "Jenny Ondioline",
> an excellent very long track.
the groop played ambient bachelor pad music is an excellent choice for
droning morphing sounds. really wonderous, and my favorite sterolab.
> There's always Sonic Youth's "Expressway To Yr Skull", which on the LP
> version is infinitely long thanks to a lock-groove at the end.
speaking of SY, what about lee's "from here to infinity" where eery track
has a lock groove (you have to move the needle each song :(
and thurstons solo psychic hearts has the 21 minuite eulegy for all the
dead rock stars, great piece.
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 18:09:36 -0500
hello all,
thanks to everyone who visited my web cd sale! i've put more cds on the
page, reduced the prices on almost all the remaining ones, and included a
"special offer." there are still many 4ad relevant recordings left.
the list is at:
thanks!
mark
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 18:48:26 -0400
Hello.
A friend's uncle will travel to Washington D.C. to make some
shops, so can someone give us the address of music stores to go there?
Regards.
Wilder.