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Subject: Re: Sunny Sunday smile - Compilation
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:32:48 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: languages/Emma/Curve vs. Garbage
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:29:49 -0400
From: hirvea vihrea (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Derby Records
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:57:44 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Sunny Sunday Smile -- Compilation
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:52:44 -0400
From: Misanthropy (jm804093@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Derby Records
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:11:18 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: A Few New Records
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:45:53 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Derby Records
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:38:11 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: NDN:A Few New Records
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:16:32 EST
From: Network Manager (system@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: bah humbug
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:20:58 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: ... /Emma/...
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:20:22 -0400
From: cathy limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: languages/Emma/Curve vs. Garbage
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 21:16:53 EDT
From: "C.K. Coney" (violaine@JUNO.COM)
Subject: new mazzy?
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:38:14 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Curve vs. Garbage
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:28:26 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: new mazzy?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 03:48:58 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)

Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:32:48 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Sunny Sunday smile - Compilation


Brian McKay wrote:>
> I have a wonderful disc by this name, which is a compilation of a bunch of
> a bunch of dreampopish bands I've never heard of.  I got the disc via
> a pal who ordered it thru IPR.

Can you please name a couple of the bands whose songs were featured in
this compilation?

Tks!

tytan

""


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:29:49 -0400
From: hirvea vihrea (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: languages/Emma/Curve vs. Garbage


>I'm not much of a linguist (English fluently, French adequately,
>Spanish -- whatever I can remember from junior high),

Well, it's not absolutely necessary to know more than your native language
to be a linguist. That's a common misconception. For example, there are
unilingual English-speaking linguists who either work only with English or
use other people's data when it comes to other languages. But it helps to
know a second one. "Linguist" is not necessarily synonymous with "polyglot".

>so I'm not the
>best one to comment, but I prefer English to French -- the *potential*
>between the Anglo-Saxon and Latinate words is immense, French sounds
>blandly beautiful by comparison.

There's really not much that's Anglo-Saxon about English except for the
little words, as it is the Germanic language that has undergone the most
French and Latin influence. Had this not been the case, you would have had
to find other ways of expressing "comment", "prefer", "potential",
"immense", "beautiful" and "comparison" just in the above sentence.


Well, maybe if you did smile (of your own volition) a bit more often, you
wouldn't appear to have all the charm and warmth of a frozen haddock.


>>Garbage sound exactly like Curve,
>
>Oh, please, that's a bit of an insult to Curve, no?

Well, if you'd kindly done me the favour of not truncating my original
comment and then taking it out of context, you'd find that I said something
to the extent that Garbage are a non-threatening, light, lo-calorie version
of Curve. They're Curve without the sounds being too in-your-face, without
the lyrics being too weird. Garbage are a calculated attempt not to offend,
not to challenge too much. Garbage are the Curve designed not to disturb
your elderly relatives too much. Garbage listened to Curve and thought, "Oh,
I get it! We'll get a singer to sing about what a miserable bint she is and
the rest of us will make weird noises". Umm, not quite.

>Garbage sounds just like what their name implies (ouch, let the flame
>wars begin!)

The name sounds like so much of a giveaway to their detractors that it's not
worth going into. I bet they came up with it for the sake of their record
company ad campaign: "When people tell you the music of today is garbage,
believe it!" or whatever it is.


Larry

"The naked and the dead
should hold each other's hand
and watch me scream at night
in a dream no one can understand"
- Jacques Brel (by way of Scott Walker)

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:57:44 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Derby Records


Does anybody have an email address for the folks qat Derby Records who
are handling that new Ian Master's 7" (Oneironaut) ? Or maybe could
somebody verify that they received the 7" from the posted address, or
maybe repost the address... I sent them a check about a month ago now and
still have heard nothing from them.
thanks

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:52:44 -0400
From: Misanthropy (jm804093@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Sunny Sunday Smile -- Compilation


On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Tan Thong Yang wrote:

> Brian McKay wrote:>
> > I have a wonderful disc by this name, which is a compilation of a bunch of
> > a bunch of dreampopish bands I've never heard of.  I got the disc via
> > a pal who ordered it thru IPR.
>
> Can you please name a couple of the bands whose songs were featured in
> this compilation?

it's more tweepop... very Sarah records, only it's on Sunday.

The Rosaries
The Proctors
Bulldozer Crash
PO!
The Pristines
Confetti
Slumber
Mrs.Kipling
They Go Boom!!
Sundress
Dolores Haze
The Cudgels

Sunday also have a more recent compilation that just came out this year, i
believe called Songs About Our Past (Part I)  with many of the same
bands plus others (like The Sweetest Ache of Sarah fame...)

and they have a web page, but i don't have the URL handy...
good stuff, if you're into happy pop...

julie


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:11:18 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Derby Records


>Does anybody have an email address for the folks qat Derby Records who
>are handling that new Ian Master's 7" (Oneironaut) ? Or maybe could
>somebody verify that they received the 7" from the posted address, or
>maybe repost the address... I sent them a check about a month ago now and
>still have heard nothing from them.
>thanks

The folks in Derby have moved from California to Noo Yawk.  I don't have
their address handy, but should no one post it before Sunday night, I'll
post their new address when I get back home.


hk


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:45:53 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: A Few New Records


Nothing particularly 4AD connected here. Just a few brief reviews of some recent
stuff.

The Haunted Science is the new album by The Omni Trio, and a superb record it is
too. Eight tracks (plus three remixes) that explore the more spaced out end of
the drum and bass spectrum, best summed up by the title of the single - Trippin'
On Broken Beats. By turns jazzy, soulful and sweepingly epic in a techno stylee,
there's not a weak track here. Very highly recommended.
Red Snapper create a hip hop/jazz/drum and bass/dub/rock fusion with a pretty
much standard guitar/bass/drums format. Their new LP, Prince Blimey (Warp), is
choc-full of heavy grooves that at times hark back to the kind of
Parliafunkadelic sound of beefed up funk and sometimes to classic JA dub plates,
but generally sound really fresh.
The new DJ Shadow single, Midnight In A Perfect World (Mo Wax) is the taster for
his eagerly awaited debut long player, Endtroducing, which is out next week.
Bone crunching beats, and tricky tempo changes underpin the track which, whilst
not in the same league as What Does Your Soul Look Like, is still pretty fine.
Pick of the mixes is the Gab mix which combines the beats with some pretty
apocalyptic poetry.
The new Pet Shop Boys record, Bilingual (EMI), starts off with some crunching
latin percussion, but the rest of the album drifts somewhat. Although less tacky
than Very, which really was a dismal album, there is still too much cheesy house
filler, and too little of the grand wistfulness and epic pop that characterised
Behaviour and Actually.
The new Pearl Jam album is ace, but I've yet to find anyone who agrees with me.
Most just laugh. But I like it, so there!

 - Dez


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:38:11 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Derby Records


i got the 7" in two weeks (priority mail, even!)  has your check been
cashed?  i have the e-mail address at home and will post it if ya need it...

BiZ


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:16:32 EST
From: Network Manager (system@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: NDN:A Few New Records


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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:20:58 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: bah humbug


  i just hope you all had a good ol' time at the LA shows because
  i, due to me absolute lack of luck that haunts me on a daily basis,
  never made it to any of the hnia appearances. i did try to go to
  the 2nd luna park show, but it was sold out. this is what i get
  for being so harsh on them lately....


  wizards in citywalk is the koolest bar around,
  k


Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:20:22 -0400
From: cathy limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: ... /Emma/...


On Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:29:49 -0400 hirvea vihrea  wrote:
>
>
>Well, maybe if you did smile (of your own volition) a bit more often, you
>wouldn't appear to have all the charm and warmth of a frozen haddock.

Oh I say!  That's more than a little cruel, not to mention bitchy!



Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 21:16:53 EDT
From: "C.K. Coney" (violaine@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: languages/Emma/Curve vs. Garbage


Oops, I think I truncated again sorry...but Larry wrote:

>>>Garbage sound exactly like Curve,
>>
>>Oh, please, that's a bit of an insult to Curve, no?
>
>Well, if you'd kindly done me the favour of not truncating my original
>comment and then taking it out of context,

I truly apologize. I've been criticized in the past for not editing out
stuff, now I've offended a writer for doing just that. A case of "damned
if you do, damned if you don't". (Hey, can anyone recommend the perfect
book on Netiquette?)

> you'd find that I said
>something
>to the extent that Garbage are a non-threatening, light, lo-calorie
>version
>of Curve. They're Curve without the sounds being too in-your-face,
>without
>the lyrics being too weird. Garbage are a calculated attempt not to
>offend,
>not to challenge too much. Garbage are the Curve designed not to
>disturb
>your elderly relatives too much. Garbage listened to Curve and
>thought, "Oh,
>I get it! We'll get a singer to sing about what a miserable bint she
>is and
>the rest of us will make weird noises". Umm, not quite.
>
>>Garbage sounds just like what their name implies (ouch, let the flame
>>wars begin!)
>
>The name sounds like so much of a giveaway to their detractors that
>it's not
>worth going into. I bet they came up with it for the sake of their
>record
>company ad campaign: "When people tell you the music of today is
>garbage,
>believe it!" or whatever it is.

Larry, I agree with all you say, 100%. (And can't wait for new Curve lp.)

Carol

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:38:14 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: new mazzy?


...okay, just read the mazzy star article is this month's AP.  although
they mention the new record many times, they never really bother
mentioning its release date.  anyone know?  that song from 'stealing
beauty' really has me wanting to hear more...


.xxx...mrk.


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:28:26 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Curve vs. Garbage

              Sep 7, 96 09:16:53 pm

> >to the extent that Garbage are a non-threatening, light, lo-calorie
> >version of Curve.

First off, I agree that Garbage sound like Curve-light, although I am
merely basing that assessment on having heard the 3 or so songs that
Garbage has released to Mtv and radio.

And speaking of Curve-light bands, did anyone else hear a disc a couple
years ago by a band called Lullabox?

-greg

who went looking for the new Curve single, but instead found the Leftfield
single with Toni singing vocals.  close enough to buy...


Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 03:48:58 GMT
From: Paul Spirito (spiritop@WINTHROP.SLIC.COM)
Subject: Re: new mazzy?


>From the unofficial Mazzy Star home page --

Among My Swan: The mesmerizing new Mazzy Star album, titled Among My
Swan, will not be released until October 29. The album was originally
scheduled for a September 5th release. It was produced by Mazzy Star
guitarist/songwriter Dave Roback, who is responsible for all of the
music on the album, with singer Hope Sandoval getting a co-production
credit. All lyrics were written by singer Sandoval, with the exception
of those for "Rhymes Of An Hour," which were co-written by Sandoval
and Roback.
Jackie Machado, JMACHADO@MEDNET.MED.MIAMI.EDU