Subject: Re: E-Mail Address for HNIA?
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: Lush - Kaleidoscopic harmonies
Subject: The Paradise Motel
Subject: 13 Year Itch
Subject: Re: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: RHP cancelled Manchester show
Subject: Galaxie 500 box
Subject: Cocteaus leave Mercury
Subject: Re: Review: The Paradise Motel
Subject: Bros. Quay's film for HNIA
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: Re: E-Mail Address for HNIA?
Subject: his head is alive
Subject: lush at slimey webster hall
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: Re: Re[2]: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: lush at slimey webster hall
Subject: Re: lush at slimey webster hall
Subject: Re: HNIA & Paige in LA Thurs Sept. 5th
Subject: DCD in Mexico
Subject: Re: lush at slimey webster hall
Subject: Sugarplastic dates
Subject: lush at slimey webster hall
Subject: HNIA in PHX-AZ
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:53:57 -0400
Michael Borum wrote:
>
> Does anyone out there have an e-mail address for His Name Is Alive? By
> that, I mean does Warren have an e-mail address anywhere? Instinct tells me
> "NO", but I just wanted to be sure.
>
> Thanks for any info,
>
> Mike
> [email protected]
er um...."NO" as you said. Davin is just starting to get into this
'net thing (his roommate, friend, and co-member of various noise
projects such as ESP-Beetles)....you can contact him THROUGH the Record
Collector at: [email protected]
Trey Many has an e-mail address.... mainly in support of his side
project Velour100 as the address suggests: [email protected]
all smiles :)
~ quis
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:50:53 -0400
fnord maddox fnord wrote:
>
> reading ms. coney's description of live HNIA
> has me all anxious for the september 20 show
> at alvins. Qwestion: where exactly _is_ alvin's?
>
> and also, i wonder if/what hnia will be doing,
> re: special hometown goodies... an instore at
> record collector? i personally have this
> idea that HNIA should shoot a video for
> 'Universal Frequencies' or 'Dub Love Letter'
> in downtown detroit, preferably performing
> in front of the giant fist (of joe louis) sculpture
> or in front of the big tire on I-94 (huge, 30 storey
> tall uniroyal tire alongside of detroit interstate)...
>
> i want my E.S.P.
>
> dan k
hiya Dan,...first of all...Alvin's is located at 5756 Cass in
Detroit...about a block or 2 away from Zoot's.....if you need specific
instructions, e-mail me privately...
and, although I haven't seen it...Davin says that HNIA DID in fact make
a video for Universal Frequencies...which cost an arm and a leg, and
from what I hear has basically been shelved......hmmmm.
~ quis
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:18:07 -0700
Recently I saw a copy of Lush - "Kaleidoscopic harmonies" at a local
store for $17.99. Email me [email protected] if you would like me
to pick it up for you.
This CD was recorded live in 1991. Tracks: Thoughtforms, Breeze, Bitter,
Second Sight, Take, Covert, Deluxe, Etheriel, Ocean, Scarlet, Sweetness
and Light, Downer, babytalk, Tiny Smiles, Leave me cold, Monochrome.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:00:41 +1000
Hey guys,
I must say that the purple description of the Paradise Motel's EP is just
not that accurate. I like it, but it really is quite bloodless in places -
and the instrumentals are meandering and pointless. The bands they were
compared to are a lot more artistically advanced and innovative - "Left
Over Life to Kill" sounds like a Twin Peaks version of the Bad Seeds'
slower moments, and the vocals are pretty inert.
Their album may be great, I haven't heard it yet, but please try before you buy.
(I have nothing against them personally, but I have been caught out by
fulsome praise before ...)
Cheers,
Matthew.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:14:06 +1000
While I'm out of hiding ...
I listened to the 13YI CD the other day, and I thought that while "Lonely
Is An Eyesore" defines the great mid-80s period of 4AD, the 13YI defines
the last good roster that the label had. After that time it seems to have
fractured, but that comp has Kristin Hersh, the Wolfgang Press, Ultra Vivid
Scene, His Name is Alive, Red House Painters, Underground Lovers, Unrest,
Breeders, etc. Since then it's been a story of departures, weirdities and
one-shot irrelevancies (some of which have been good, I might add) -
Tarnation, Air Miami, Paladins, Gus Gus, etc. Really, Heidi Berry's
signing was a warning to us all ...
Anyone else think that 13YI has, in retrospect, a far healthier roster than
4AD 1996? And to think we were all moaning about the decline in standards
back then. CLOSE 4AD LOS ANGELES (or maybe let Brant run it, even if he
does hate some good bands).
Just thinkin',
Matthew.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:59:00 GMT
Yes, Tony Wilson et al. tried to break the London monopoly but really
it's impossible.
On a lighter note - the Stockholm Monsters and Section 25 ...... aahh!
I was reading the Factory Story and was surprised to find that the
Stockholm Monsters ended up writing theme tunes for Football shows on
TV. (Theme tunes seems to be an active pastime for ex-Factory bands!!)
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Date: 29/08/96 01:24
>I do feel like I've been unfair to Factory a bit,.. initially they
>did speed down the motorways in Transit vans touring all the time, it
>was only after Tony Wilson earned enough to buy his first Armani suit
>that his head vanished completely up his arse
...and a few years later Factory went bankrupt.
By the way, Stockholm Monsters, Section 25, Crispy Ambulance, The Wake,
they've all visited the Continent, so the 'smaller' bands didn't only play
close to home. It was a bit of a problem though that their records were not
readily available here. Stockholm Monsters even wrote a song about it: 'How
Corrupt Is Rough Trade?'. Quite appropriately issued through Factory Benelux
(and readily available in the UK).
Frank
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:44:00 GMT
I take your point about the apathetic nature of the student population
of Manchester. I agree that unless it's a BritPlop band they're not
interested. It's sad really.... :(
I was interested by your comment about Drum and Bass nights....I
actually scoured the counter in Picadilly Records for a flier
advertising such a night, with, as you've said - NO SUCCESS!!!!!!
Well, here's hoping that Manchester wakes up!!
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Date: 29/08/96 00:04
First an apology to those who don't care shit about Manchester. Sorry.
Manchester has always been over-reliant on the student population for gig
attendance, and at the moment said students are still away (leading to the
tradtitional July/August gig drought). Even when they're here, though, it seems
that when they aren't out clubbing, they want to see shit Britpop bands and
their clones. Eitzel's show was cancelled due to low ticket sales, as I suspect
was the reason for RHP doing likewise. It's simply not cost-effective for bands
to come here to be greeted with empty halls. Even Transglobal Underground who
are pretty dance-friendly less than half-filled the Uni. Bands like Bear or
Coping Saw simply don't bother, even though it only means popping over from
Leeds. I can't really blame the bands or the record companies for the apathy of
the people here. In dance culture it's the same. Where are the Drum and bass
nights? I went to the first night of Blueprint at South - an excellent brew of
hip hop, drum and bass, funk and techno - and so did another 10 people. The
Electric Chair, arguably the most cutting edge dance night in the city still
comfortably sits in the tiny Roadhouse. Basically, people here seem to want
gormless indie rock of the Oasis/Weller school or four to the floor house that
sounded dated five years ago. To turn round one of Anthony Wilson's infamous
quotes 'Wake Up Manchester You're Dead'
PS Notice how the Muses three UK dates are in the same cities as last time.
Kristin still likes it here.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:53:00 GMT
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Date: 29/08/96 01:09
> Simon,
>
> if you remember they were scheduled to play the Academy about 18
> months to 2 years ago and that gig was also cancelled. I've only seen
> them twice before, once at the 13 year itch bash (bloody awful set),
> and, then at Manchester Uni which was OUTSTANDING!!!!! The rapport
> with the crowd was fantastic.
>
> The cancellation has just poured more fuel on a bad year for me too -
> Scheer didn't turn up at Man Uni, then I made the journey down to
> London for the aborted DCD gig!!
>
> The thing that pisses me off the most is (and I know that RHP aren't
> on 4AD anymore!!) the London-centric approach to gigging that 4AD
> bands seems to have. I wouldn't have seen Tarnation or Mojave 3 at all
> if I hadn't been lucky enough to be attending a seminar in 'The Smoke'
> earlier this year!!!! It only seems to be the 'less well known'
> (outside this list) artists that stay in London!
>
> 4AD should learn - if it wants to promote less well known artists, get
> them on the road and meet the fans! What's wrong with the North? At
> least you get a good reception and good beer up here! (I mean to say,
> if Kristen Hersh plays the Parr Hall Warrington then the North must be
> groovy and hip :) !!!!!!).
>
> Saying all this, I am making a special journey down to London to see
> Tortoise!!! (But they did have the courtesy to support Stereolab at
> Man Uni).
>
> What's the situation like for 4AD gigs in Europe??? Is it worse
> still?? The attitude to gigging in the USA seems much more healthy
> than over here, where in general it's SHIT!!
>
> Lets hope the Muses don't cancel!!!!
>
> Paul Walsh
> [email protected]
Sorry you're upset, but if you think about the financial implications of
bringing a band over to play you may have saved yourself an e-mail. It
doesn't make sense to bring a new band over to the UK at all, but we try to
wherever possible so people like you can see them.
Unfortunately, with limited time in their schedule and nearly all the
journalists/radio/tv in London we have to concentrate on London. When these
people deign to write about/play the bands and we see that reflect in more
regional interest we would love to have bands play outside London and do.
Until then, sorry you have to travel.
cliff walton - 4ad ltd
PS If the Muses have to cancel it will be for as uncontrollable reason like
DCD - ie an important member of the band is too ill to play.
Cliff,
I guess I sounded a bit harsh!! But it was MAJOR disappointment when DCD
cancelled (I do understand that Lisa was ill). We see DCD so infrequently
that it's such a build up, and then........ :(
I understand your point about the financial implications. But really it's
still the chicken and egg syndrome. I agree that Manchester and the North is
so focused on BritPlop that it can't see anything else, but push a few bands
up this way and MAKE them OPEN THEIR EARS.
One of the most amazing sights I saw recently was Tortoise supporting
Stereolab. At first there were few people watching Tortoise, then as the
music started to filter through and word spread around the bar the place was
heaving. The music spoke for itself. (On a shitty note though I did hear
someone saying they thought Stereolab were a new BritPop band. I bet they
had a surprise!!!).
There are people up here that are interested...we're just not being
represented.
Apologies for sounding like a moaning fucker - Paul Walsh.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:31:16 +0100
Details from Ryko's site (nothing there about it being a limited
edition):
Disc 1 = "Today" with extra track "King of Spain" and video for
"Tugboat".
Disc 2 = "On Fire" plus the three B-sides to the "Blue Thunder" EP,
and video for "When Will You Come Home".
Disc 3 = "This Is Our Music" plus "King of Spain 2" (this is on my
copy already, but Ryko say it's a bonus track) and "Here She Comes
Now", plus video for "4th of July".
Disc 4 = "Cheese and Onions" (from Rutles tribute), "Blue Thunder"
(the sax version from the EP), "Crazy" (extra track from European
"Today"), and 11 demos, outtakes etc, plus the video for "Blue
Thunder"
See www.rykodisc.com for full details.
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 29/08/96
[email protected], http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:44:33 +0100
Small article in yesterday's NME - the Cocteau Twins have left Mercury
(Fontana's parent), but are not on the verge of splitting, as had been
rumoured. Simon Raymonde has an album of solo stuff on the way, and
says new CT material will be released "sooner than you think".
Here's the chance for Ivo to welcome them back into the fold and silence
the "4AD's betrayed its etherial heritage" lot!
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 29/08/96
[email protected], http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 23:52:11 +1000
Hi all,
I've seen this band a few times. They are quite good. Their latest release
is a limited hand numbered CDEP called "Some Deaths Take Forever". It is
continues their death fixation in their titles. It includes a few remixes
of their songs and a version of the Triffids' "Raining Pleasure" (but with
a drum track from another Triffids song). The remixes are quite strange as
they really distort the mixing levels. Quite interesting. Just as
interesting aside, when they launched "Left Over Life To Kill", they had a
four piece string quartet accompanying them. In that quartet was Alice
Garner who is the lead in that brilliant Australian movie by Emma-Kate
Croghan, Love And Other Catastrophes.
As for mailordering this via the web, you might want to try Polyester
Records. They have web site. I can't remember the URl though. Give
Altavista a bash, I'm sure it will come up with something.
Regards, Donald
--
Donald Chin
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:33:05 +0000
>
> have you seen the brother's quay films for his name is alive?
Can anyone please tell me more about these films? Titles? Where can I
get them? etc....?
Tks in advance!
tytan
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:05:33 +0000
At 16:16 8/28/96 +0000, you wrote:
> reading ms. coney's description of live HNIA
> has me all anxious for the september 20 show
> at alvins. Qwestion: where exactly _is_ alvin's?
I don't know where Alvin's is, but from the looks of the little booklet
thingie that comes with the Time Stereo "UFO Doctor" video, it looks like
Alvin's is an important historical site, where an amazing alien autopsy took
place. Look around for signs and keep your nose open for strange smells, ok?
Traces of alien blood last a long time.
By the way, does anyone know what "PD-M" means in relation to Time Stereo?
Ms. Coney
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:26:49 -0400
u>
On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, fnord maddox fnord wrote:
> > Does anyone out there have an e-mail address for His Name Is Alive? By
> trey, the drummer, has email. [email protected]
thats kinda a crappy thing to do...
after the discussion we all just had about
trey being proud of his own thing in velour, now
hes gonna get 1000 messages asking when hnia is
going to play.... my sympathy to him.
spiral
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:38:35 -0400
> music, the kooky fan writes Warren tons of letters, and when Warren doesn't
> answer, well, then Warren is in trouble with this fan! (This one example is
> about someone in PA...hey, kooky, are you on this list? GET A LIFE and leave
> your favorite artists alone! They don't owe you ANYTHING! Just a suggestion
hey i have another novel idea...
if they dont want letters, and cant appreciate the letters
they get from people who put food on their table, maybe the
souldnt put the little note in their inserts that says: for
tapes info etc..
wherever "kooky" is, leave him/her alone...some people find solace
in religion others in music. its rather unfair for you to judge
and place the label of "kooky" on them, when you have no knowledge of
what was said, and their mental condition.
---> [spiral]
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:08:06 -0400
i just re-subbed today, so i hope i'm not being redundant here. but did
anyone go to the webster hall show last night?
it was a really great set, although it didn't feel like a real show, coz
they were on at 7:30 and off in less than an hour to make room for the Gin
Blossoms. i was surprised to see lots of dedicated gala-sportin' lush
fans, though! who all left to let in the other crowd...
emma was nearly kicked out of the place and miki actually was, for being
too loud at the bar afterwards, or something like that. and the bouncers
were like "good for them! those artists are f**king assholes!...they're
english, too- same thing, english, asshole."
webster hall is the slimiest of slimey venues/clubs in new york city. as
emma walked away she was like "this is the worst f**king venue i've ever
played at!!!!" and gave the finger to the buff bouncer boys. you go
girl!
lushous lor
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:37:39 +0200
>By the way, does anyone know what "PD-M" means in relation to Time Stereo?
Princess Dragon Mom
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:37:56 +0200
Paul wrote:
> I was reading the Factory Story
You mean the new book by Mick Middles, 'From Joy Division Division to New
Order - The Factory Story'? Why did he subtitle it 'The Factory Story', as
it isn't a proper Factory Story at all! It's riddled with errors anyway. In
fact nothing but a band biography with too may Wilson-isms thrown in. Wilson
loves to rewrite history!! (must be his 'Marxist' background)
Frank
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[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:55:49 EDT
from lorelei tremolor on Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:08:06 -0400)
Yeah, I was sort of at that show. Who ever heard of a show actually
starting at 7:30. I got there at 7:45 and then had to wait outside
until almost 8:15 to get it. So I only saw the last 4 songs.
I left right after as I wasn't interested in the Gin Blossoms. I figure
with parking and tolls I paid $9 for each song I heard. Grrrr!!
--mike
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:16:37 EDT
LUSH WAS at webster hall last night? SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT why do i
always miss them FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUK
A very SAD lush fan
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:18:01 -0500
>I just wanted to let everybody know that on Thursday, Sept. 5th at
Luna Park,
>His Name is Alive will be playing with the Los Angeles local band,
Paige.
>They are an incredible band, probably one of the best new bands to
come out
>of the LA scene in a long time. Their sound is very old school 4ad.
According
>to the flyer, HNIA goes on at 9:00p.m., followed by Paige at 10:30p.
m. So
>anybody going to see HNIA on that particular night, stick around to
see a
>really cool band.
I just got as flyer from them. That is so rad. I knew that there had
to be a connection between Paige and 4ad. Then again, who knows.
Definitely, anybody going to the Thursday show, stick around. I can't
wait. I was almost only going to go to the Friday show.
>Their sound is very old school 4ad.
I wouldn't go as far to call it old school 4ad, I think Paige will be
great with HNIA. I wonder if they have a deal going on with 4ad.... ??
? Anyone know ?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:22:22 -0600
DCD strikes again, this time in the biggest city of the world:
Mexico. They played just incredible. Lisa worn a blue dress and a great
voice. She did what she wants with us, and conquered our minds with her
unique vocals. Brendan Perry was just fab, singing in a way I will never
forget.
The concert, in few words, was wonderful... by the way I have a
question. Could somebody tell me an average of the people that used to go
to the DCD concerts?... I will appreciate it.
Definitely, this performance was one of the best in the year...
maybe just another 4ad presentation will be better. Thanks for take your
time to read these lines.
DRT.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:37:11 +0000
At 05:16 PM 8/29/96 EDT, you wrote:
>LUSH WAS at webster hall last night? SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT why do i
>always miss them FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUK
>
>A very SAD lush fan
>
Lush sucks. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
A very SAD $4AD fan.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:49:40 -0700
You've heard me go on about The Sugarplastic, so now's
your chance to see them on their first US tour:
[i didn't format this, so don't shoot the messenger!]
THURSDAY, SEPT. 5TH at EJs, PORTLAND, OR.
FRIDAY, SEPT. 6TH, at the CROCODILE CAFE, SEATTLE, WA.
MONDAY, SEPT. 9TH, at FIRST AVENUE, MINNEAPOLIS, MN.
TUESDAY, SEPT. 10TH, at TBA venue, IOWA CITY, IA.
WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 11TH, at the BOTTLENECK, LAWRENCE, KS.
THURSDAY, SEPT. 12TH, at WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, ST. LOUIS, MO.
FRIDAY, SEPT. 13TH, at the EMPTY BOTTLE, CHICAGO, IL.
SATURDAY, SEPT. 14TH, at the UNICORN, MILWAUKEE, WI.
SUNDAY, SEPT. 15TH, at the BLIND PIG, ANN ARBOR, MI.
MONDAY, SEPT. 16TH, at STACHES, COLUMBUS, OH.
TUESDAY, SEPT. 17TH, at SPEAK IN TOUNGES, CLEVELAND, OH.
WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 18TH, at NIETZSCHES, BUFFALO, NY.
THURSDAY, SEPT. 19TH, at the MIDDLE EAST CLUB, CAMBRIDGE, MA.
FRIDAY, SEPT. 20TH, at the SILK CITY LOUNGE, PHILADELPHIA, PA.
SATURDAY, SEPT. 21ST, at the BLACK CAT, WASHINGTON, DC.
MONDAY, SEPT. 23RD, at BROWNIES, NEW YORK, NY.
TUESDAY, SEPT. 24TH, at FLETCHERS, BALTIMORE, MD.
WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 25TH, at the BREWERY, LOUISVILLE, KY.
THURSDAY, SEPT. 26TH, at THE POINT, ATLANTA, GA.
FRIDAY, SEPT. 27TH, TBA, BIRMINGHAM, AL.
SATURDAY, SEPT. 28TH, TBA, PENSACOLA, FL.
MONDAY, SEPT. 30TH, at the ELECTRIC LOUNGE, AUSTIN, TX.
WEDNESDAY, OCT. 2ND, at NITAS HIDEAWAY, PHOENIX, AZ.
THURSDAY, OCT. 3RD, at SPACELAND, SILVER LAKE, CA.
FRIDAY, OCT. 4TH, BOTTOM OF THE HILL, SAN FRANCISCO, CA.
Briefly, the Sugarplastic are the closest you'll ever
get to seeing XTC play live. If you like XTC, I can't
imagine you not liking these guys.
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